---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/03/05: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:17 AM - Re: RV8 Wheel Fairing / Brake Caliper Interference (Steve Glasgow) 2. 03:36 AM - heated pitot tube, and pnuematic squeezer for sale (Richard Lundin) 3. 05:15 AM - Re: Folding Bikes () 4. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Folding Bikes (Jim Pellien) 5. 12:19 PM - [ John L. Danielson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 6. 01:36 PM - OT: Aces's High ll (Jerry Springer) 7. 02:48 PM - Magnetic Compass for sale (Don Kugler) 8. 03:08 PM - Re: OT: Aces's High ll (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 9. 03:41 PM - First Flight (Steve Struyk) 10. 05:21 PM - Re: First flight (Rick Galati) 11. 05:37 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Kevin Horton) 12. 05:58 PM - Re: First Flight (Richard Dudley) 13. 06:01 PM - Re: RV9-List: status report 90616 (Tom Callender) 14. 06:19 PM - Re: First Flight (Paul Rice) 15. 06:32 PM - -7 aileron belcrank bushings (Charlie England) 16. 07:03 PM - Re: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 (Frank Stringham) 17. 07:08 PM - Re: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 (Bob Perkinson) 18. 07:32 PM - Re: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 (Jim Jewell) 19. 07:49 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Konrad L. Werner) 20. 09:09 PM - Re: First Flight (Gerry Filby) 21. 10:40 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (rv6n6r@comcast.net) 22. 11:37 PM - VANS ALTERNATOR WEIGHTS (Leesafur@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:27 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8 Wheel Fairing / Brake Caliper Interference --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" I had the same problem because I have the grove landing gear which is thicker than Van's stock gear. I cut a hole where the problem area was and make blisters or bumps on the pants out of fiberglass to allow clearance. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:33 AM PST US From: Richard Lundin Subject: RV-List: heated pitot tube, and pnuematic squeezer for sale --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Lundin I have changed projects so I can fly sport pilot catergory and have a heated 12v pitot tube, and a pneumatic squeezer listed on ebay for sale. The item numbers are below. Best to all, Rick Pitot Tube, Heated Item #4593874350 Pneumatic rivet squeezer (#4593879112) Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:42 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Re: Folding Bikes --> RV-List message posted by: From the info I got this is the conclusion I came to. I first wanted a bike just like these but talked myself out of them, even though I am a cheapskate. Just for illustration and no offense meant, but have you ever seen a clown on a little bike at the circus? That is what comes to mind. I like the price but be ready to pay a lot more for a serious folding bike. Also you get what you pay for comes to mind. If you plan on doing some serious riding, touring it is totally unacceptable. If you just want something to peddle down the tarmac to get to the FBO the zportusa may be fine. From a size standpoint the small wheel zportusa models it looks like it will fit in the back of a RV-6/7/9, but a little heavy. The 20" are just a tad too big and they are also heavy at 35lbs. The mid/high priced Dahon's or a Bike Friday or Brompton are top on the list. I think the Brompton may be a slight fit problem folded, but not sure. Also if you want to do real riding shoot for 20". Many riders tell me the 16" wheel is marginal for real touring/sight seeing. George From: "Smitty" Subject: RV-List: Folding Bikes --> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" I just found this bike manufacturer on the internet. The prices are really low. Does anyone know whether that are any good or not? http://zportusa.com/ Smitty's RV-9A http://SmittysRV.com --------------------------------- Let fate take it's course directly to your email. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:28 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Folding Bikes --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Has anybody on the list ever rode one of these cheap folding bikes from www.zportusa.com I'd like to hear a first person review of their experience. Some of these folding bicycles from Brompton and Dahon and others are over $1000 each, whereas this one from zport is $175 including shipping. A significant difference. But I have not heard any first person accounts of the zport equipment yet. I'm thinking about buying one just to look at it, but before I do that, I'd like to hear from a person who has one. Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com www.MASPL.com 703-313-4818 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Folding Bikes --> RV-List message posted by: >From the info I got this is the conclusion I came to. I first wanted a bike just like these but talked myself out of them, even though I am a cheapskate. Just for illustration and no offense meant, but have you ever seen a clown on a little bike at the circus? That is what comes to mind. I like the price but be ready to pay a lot more for a serious folding bike. Also you get what you pay for comes to mind. If you plan on doing some serious riding, touring it is totally unacceptable. If you just want something to peddle down the tarmac to get to the FBO the zportusa may be fine. From a size standpoint the small wheel zportusa models it looks like it will fit in the back of a RV-6/7/9, but a little heavy. The 20" are just a tad too big and they are also heavy at 35lbs. The mid/high priced Dahon's or a Bike Friday or Brompton are top on the list. I think the Brompton may be a slight fit problem folded, but not sure. Also if you want to do real riding shoot for 20". Many riders tell me the 16" wheel is marginal for real touring/sight seeing. George From: "Smitty" Subject: RV-List: Folding Bikes --> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" I just found this bike manufacturer on the internet. The prices are really low. Does anyone know whether that are any good or not? http://zportusa.com/ Smitty's RV-9A http://SmittysRV.com --------------------------------- Let fate take it's course directly to your email. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:30 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: [ John L. Danielson ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: John L. Danielson Lists: RV-List,RV6-List Subject: Easy way to help cowl removal http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/johnd@wlcwyo.com.12.03.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:44 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: RV-List: OT: Aces's High ll --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Just wondering if there are any other RVers; that like to do fly online combat in Ace's High ll? While it does cost to subscribe the first two weeks are free, It is pretty intense at times. Does not seem to help me much that I am a pilot and flight instructor I still get shot down. regularly. :-) It is WWll style aircraft and many to choose from. I am not associtaed in any way I just think it is probably the best online flying there is. I have been told that the owner of the game is an RV-4 owner. Jerry do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:26 PM PST US From: "Don Kugler" Subject: RV-List: Magnetic Compass for sale --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Kugler" Found more stuff.... Contact me off list, make an offer, whatever. Regards, -Don RV8 - NJ Don Kugler donkugler@earthlink.net 908-303-6578 direct 1 Compass, 2 1/4" Panel Mount Northern Hemisphere. New - $50 Van's P/N IF CM-13L $75.00 in Van's Catalog ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:45 PM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: OT: Aces's High ll --> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Jerry, I used to play ACES HIGH but decided that staying up til 2 & 3 AM was not good so I deleted it and do more of what I should be doing. Have fun. Doug Preston RV7 N731RV DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:52 PM PST US From: "Steve Struyk" Subject: RV-List: First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" Well, the big day finally got here. This morning at 9:35 AM, N842S "slipped the surly bonds" and soared into the crisp (34 F) morning air above Creve Coeur Airport, 1HO. (St. Louis Area) All went according to plan with no surprises. She flies straight as an arrow and will require no aileron or rudder trimming or re-rigging. What a Day! For those to follow, just keep pressing on. You will get there, and it well be so worth the effort. Steve Struyk RV-8, N842S St. Charles, MO .8 Hours! No not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:55 PM PST US From: Rick Galati Subject: RV-List: Re: First flight --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati Congratulations Steve! Today was not exactly a warm CAVU day around the area but that really didn't matter did it? YOU DID IT! What a feeling. I'm just a few RV minutes away, based at Greensfield. Chalk up another RV joining the St. Louis Mo. wing of the VAF. Congratulations again buddy. Fly safe. Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" Well, the big day finally got here. This morning at 9:35 AM, N842S "slipped the surly bonds" and soared into the crisp (34 F) morning air above Creve Coeur Airport, 1HO. (St. Louis Area) All went according to plan with no surprises. She flies straight as an arrow and will require no aileron or rudder trimming or re-rigging. What a Day! For those to follow, just keep pressing on. You will get there, and it well be so worth the effort. Steve Struyk RV-8, N842S St. Charles, MO .8 Hours! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:14 PM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton I've put an article up on my web site describing the problems that some people have had with Randy Simpson, to warn other potential purchasers. http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8/article.php?story=Beware_Randy_Simpson I've quoted a few messages from this list, with the authors' permission. If anyone else wants to put their oar in the water, you can e-mail me your comments, or put a comment on the article on the web page. Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:25 PM PST US From: Richard Dudley Subject: Re: RV-List: First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley Congratulations, Steve!!!!! It is finally worth all the work and frustration. Regards, Richard Dudley -6A 70+ hours Do not archive Steve Struyk wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" > >Well, the big day finally got here. This morning at 9:35 AM, N842S "slipped the surly bonds" and soared into the crisp (34 F) morning air above Creve Coeur Airport, 1HO. (St. Louis Area) All went according to plan with no surprises. She flies straight as an arrow and will require no aileron or rudder trimming or re-rigging. What a Day! > >For those to follow, just keep pressing on. You will get there, and it well be so worth the effort. > > >Steve Struyk >RV-8, N842S >St. Charles, MO .8 Hours! > >No not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:53 PM PST US From: "Tom Callender" Subject: RV-List: Re: RV9-List: status report 90616 --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Callender" From: kerrjohna@comcast.net >December 22 saw the successful completion of the > airworthiness inspection of N927BJ (90616) RV9. I > am told that there are only about dozen conventional > gear 9's. Way to go John, Congrats:-) I am building a 9 ( N793JT reserved ). Tom C ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:29 PM PST US From: "Paul Rice" Subject: Re: RV-List: First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Rice" Congrats Steve, Still working on my fuselage, will attach wings next month. Maybe another year to go, can't wait. Good flying, Paul RV8QB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Struyk" Subject: RV-List: First Flight > --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" > > Well, the big day finally got here. This morning at 9:35 AM, N842S > "slipped the surly bonds" and soared into the crisp (34 F) morning air > above Creve Coeur Airport, 1HO. (St. Louis Area) All went according to > plan with no surprises. She flies straight as an arrow and will require no > aileron or rudder trimming or re-rigging. What a Day! > > For those to follow, just keep pressing on. You will get there, and it > well be so worth the effort. > > > Steve Struyk > RV-8, N842S > St. Charles, MO .8 Hours! > > No not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:28 PM PST US From: Charlie England RV list Subject: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England Just spent some time perusing old messages about bellcrank bushing problems & got a few answers but still have some questions. The bushings I got will slide into the bellcranks fairly easily until they hit the point where the 2nd flange is welded, about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the tube. Either bushing into either bellcrank, same symptom. A 3/8 drill bit will slide through the bellcrank tube without binding; actually, it's fairly loose. In addition, neither bushing will accept an AN4 bolt shaft. The threads will go in with slight binding, but any attempt to go further results in the plating being scraped off the bolt at the thread-shaft transition point. (I've used the deburring tool on the ends of the bushings; no help.) Is everyone having to ream both the bellcrank tube & the bushing? I suppose that I can turn the bushing OD down without too much trouble but trying to drill it to 1/4"+ for the bolt, without a lathe, doesn't strike me as fun. Charlie (feeling like I paid for parts that should fit) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:06 PM PST US From: "Frank Stringham" Subject: RE: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" Charlie I used a 1/4 inch ream on my bushings and they came out great. I had no problem with the bell crank bushing hole aliagnment. Frank @ SGU and SLC >From: Charlie England >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "rv7-list@matronics.com" , RV list > >Subject: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL >0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 >Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:31:53 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England > >Just spent some time perusing old messages about bellcrank bushing >problems & got a few answers but still have some questions. > >The bushings I got will slide into the bellcranks fairly easily until >they hit the point where the 2nd flange is welded, about 1/3 of the way >down from the top of the tube. Either bushing into either bellcrank, >same symptom. A 3/8 drill bit will slide through the bellcrank tube >without binding; actually, it's fairly loose. > >In addition, neither bushing will accept an AN4 bolt shaft. The threads >will go in with slight binding, but any attempt to go further results in >the plating being scraped off the bolt at the thread-shaft transition >point. (I've used the deburring tool on the ends of the bushings; no help.) > >Is everyone having to ream both the bellcrank tube & the bushing? I >suppose that I can turn the bushing OD down without too much trouble but >trying to drill it to 1/4"+ for the bolt, without a lathe, doesn't >strike me as fun. > >Charlie >(feeling like I paid for parts that should fit) > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:00 PM PST US From: "Bob Perkinson" Subject: RE: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" Charlie, As I recall I had to ream the Bellcrank. It appears that when the assembly is welded the areas around the welds on the inside of the tube expands somewhat. As for the bolts going through the bushing I don't recall having any problem with that. Bob Perkinson Hendersonville, TN. RV9 N658RP Reserved If nothing changes Nothing changes --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England Just spent some time perusing old messages about bellcrank bushing problems & got a few answers but still have some questions. The bushings I got will slide into the bellcranks fairly easily until they hit the point where the 2nd flange is welded, about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the tube. Either bushing into either bellcrank, same symptom. A 3/8 drill bit will slide through the bellcrank tube without binding; actually, it's fairly loose. In addition, neither bushing will accept an AN4 bolt shaft. The threads will go in with slight binding, but any attempt to go further results in the plating being scraped off the bolt at the thread-shaft transition point. (I've used the deburring tool on the ends of the bushings; no help.) Is everyone having to ream both the bellcrank tube & the bushing? I suppose that I can turn the bushing OD down without too much trouble but trying to drill it to 1/4"+ for the bolt, without a lathe, doesn't strike me as fun. Charlie (feeling like I paid for parts that should fit) ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:43 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Charlie, The welding process can and does cause some amount disstortion. It does seem that the parts in question should have been reamed to final fit size....? However, you might consider going to a machine shop and asking them to run an adjustable reamer through The bellcranks enough to get the correct fit for the bushing. Only remove enough material to allow a comfortable slide fit. Avoid removing material from the bushing as doing so will contribute somewhat to loosness or play in the control system. Running the reamer through the bellcranks will remove the tight spot without removing any excess. Using the reamer will not take very long and the labour cost should be minimal. Hopefully you have a machine shop or better yet a friend nearby that can provide the service for you. Keep going, Jim in Kelowna -- the fuse is in the paint shop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" Subject: RV-List: -7 aileron belcrank bushings INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 > --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England > > Just spent some time perusing old messages about bellcrank bushing > problems & got a few answers but still have some questions. > > The bushings I got will slide into the bellcranks fairly easily until > they hit the point where the 2nd flange is welded, about 1/3 of the way > down from the top of the tube. Either bushing into either bellcrank, > same symptom. A 3/8 drill bit will slide through the bellcrank tube > without binding; actually, it's fairly loose. > > In addition, neither bushing will accept an AN4 bolt shaft. The threads > will go in with slight binding, but any attempt to go further results in > the plating being scraped off the bolt at the thread-shaft transition > point. (I've used the deburring tool on the ends of the bushings; no > help.) > > Is everyone having to ream both the bellcrank tube & the bushing? I > suppose that I can turn the bushing OD down without too much trouble but > trying to drill it to 1/4"+ for the bolt, without a lathe, doesn't > strike me as fun. > > Charlie > (feeling like I paid for parts that should fit) > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:45 PM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" Got a question: Doesn't anyone on this list know Randy Simpson personally, and is willing to talk to him over a beer or so to find out what really happened here??? Just a thought. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Horton To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton I've put an article up on my web site describing the problems that some people have had with Randy Simpson, to warn other potential purchasers. http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8/article.php?storyBeware_Randy_Simpson I've quoted a few messages from this list, with the authors' permission. If anyone else wants to put their oar in the water, you can e-mail me your comments, or put a comment on the article on the web page. Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 -- ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: First Flight From: Gerry Filby --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby :) Way cool ... Congrats ... g > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" > > Well, the big day finally got here. This morning at 9:35 AM, > N842S "slipped the surly bonds" and soared into the crisp (34 > F) morning air above Creve Coeur Airport, 1HO. (St. Louis Area) > All went according to plan with no surprises. She flies > straight as an arrow and will require no aileron or rudder > trimming or re-rigging. What a Day! > > For those to follow, just keep pressing on. You will get there, > and it well be so worth the effort. > > > Steve Struyk > RV-8, N842S > St. Charles, MO .8 Hours! > > No not archive > > > > > > > -- __g__ ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Tel: 415 203 9177 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:14 PM PST US From: rv6n6r@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net >Got a question: > >Doesn't anyone on this list know Randy Simpson personally, and is willing to >talk to him over a beer or so to find out what really happened here??? >Just a thought. Seems to me we all know what happened, or should by now. Randy is disorganized and can be slow getting his product out. People who know him know he's not a crook, makes good product when he gets around to it, and is a lousy businessman. How about we stop beating this horse? Randall ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:54 PM PST US From: Leesafur@aol.com Subject: RV-List: VANS ALTERNATOR WEIGHTS --> RV-List message posted by: Leesafur@aol.com Does anybody know the weights of the alternators that vans sells? I search the archives but didn't find anything. Thanks Lee RV-3