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1. 12:17 AM - 2005 List of Contributors - Thank You... (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: Freezing brakes (Stephen J. Soule)
3. 05:17 AM - Re: Freezing brakes (Alex Peterson)
4. 05:40 AM - Re: Freezing brakes (Stephen J. Soule)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: Freezing brakes (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
6. 06:42 AM - Avionics, ACU, etc (bob rundle)
7. 08:22 AM - Just ordered my Ti-Downs in Stock (Darrell Reiley)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Van's Alternator Weight's (Reliability of alternators Van is selling) (Darrell Reiley)
9. 08:36 AM - Re: Freezing brakes (sportav8r@aol.com)
10. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Van's Alternator Weight's (Reliability of alternators Van is selling) (Denis Walsh)
11. 09:27 AM - Cream colored bottom. (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
12. 09:49 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (sportav8r@aol.com)
13. 09:59 AM - Re: Just ordered my Ti-Downs in Stock (HCRV6@comcast.net)
14. 10:17 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (James Clark)
15. 10:50 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Bob J)
16. 10:54 AM - VNY FSDO weirdness (Ed Holyoke)
17. 10:57 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (james frierson)
18. 11:02 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Dan Checkoway)
19. 11:27 AM - Re: VNY FSDO weirdness (Kelly McMullen)
20. 11:27 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Larry Bowen)
21. 11:44 AM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
22. 12:10 PM - Re: Freezing brakes (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
23. 12:14 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
24. 12:23 PM - Re: VNY FSDO weirdness (Ed Holyoke)
25. 01:08 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Ron Lee)
26. 01:10 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Ron Lee)
27. 01:11 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Ralph E. Capen)
28. 01:14 PM - Received Ti-Downs TODAY (Darrell Reiley)
29. 01:35 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Bob J)
30. 01:53 PM - Re: VNY FSDO weirdness (James H Nelson)
31. 02:31 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Mickey Coggins)
32. 02:51 PM - Re: VNY FSDO weirdness (Ed Holyoke)
33. 03:25 PM - Re: VNY FSDO weirdness (Ed Holyoke)
34. 04:55 PM - GPS 296/395 (Al Grajek)
35. 05:14 PM - Re: Cream colored bottom. (Richard Seiders)
36. 06:38 PM - Priming/painting piano hinges? (Dan Charrois)
37. 07:29 PM - Re: Priming/painting piano hinges? (Brian Kraut)
38. 08:12 PM - Re: Priming/painting piano hinges? (Alan & Linda Daniels)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Let me say *thank you* to everyone that made a Contribution in
support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all the
great comments people had regarding what the Lists mean to them and
how much they look forward to reading the new posts each day. As I
have said many times before, running these Lists and creating the
many new features is truly a labor of love. This is why your
comments of support and appreciation have particular meaning for
me. Your generosity during this time of List support only
underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund
Raiser please feel free to do so. There are still a number of the
various Free Gifts to be had as well. Once again, the URL for the
Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises (
http://www.kitlog.com ), and Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP (
http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) for their extremely generous support
during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of
merchandise. These are three great guys that support this industry
and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their
respective web sites. Thank you Andy, Paul, and Jon!! Your support
is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find the 2005 List of Contributors
current as of 12/4/05! Have a look at this list of names as these
are the people that make all of these List services possible! I
can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback
during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU!
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and
hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases,
gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
------------------ 2005 List of Contributors ---------------------
Ackerman, John P
Ackland, Andrew
Ackworth, Robert
Adamson, Arden
Akerstrom, Ed
Alberti, David
Alexander, George
Allee, Joseph
Allen, Mark L
Alley, Brian
Allington, Wally
Allsop, Bryan
Alons, Kevin
Al, Rupp
Altenhein, Gary
Anderson, Edward
Anderson, John
Anderson, Ken
Andrews, Ronald
Anliker, Mark
Anthony, Bruce
Anton, Bill
Applefeld, Gerald
Archer, Matt
Ashcraft, Keith
Atkinson, Paul
Austin, Peter
Babb, Tony
Bahrns, Stan
Baker, Mike
Baker, Owen
Baker, Roger
Baker, Victor
Baleshta, Doug
Ballenger, James
Barba, Alberto
Barnes, Thomas
Barrie, Darwin
Barson, Ron
Barter, Tom
Basiliere, Rick
Bass, George
BatchelderJr, Ellery
Bates Jr, Marcus
Bean, Jim
Bean, Robert
Bearden, Jeff
Beauchamp, Norm
Bellach, Robin
Bell, Bruce B
Bell, Jack
Belvin, Thomas
Benjamin, Hal
Benson, Lonn
Benson, Lonnie
Berges, Duncan
Berg, Wayne
Bermudez, John
Berner, Walter
Bernier, Jim
Berry, Bert
Berry, Jim
Bertz, Gary
Berube, Bob
Betz, Judie
Bezzard, Richard
Bickham, John
Bidle, Jerry
Bieberdorf, Roger
Billingsley, Dan
Billington, Chuck
Bish, Dan
Black, Milton
Blackwell, Jimmie
Blackwell, Rodney
Blair, Sean
Blank, Stephen
Boeshaar, David
Boetto, Steve
Bohannon, Larry
Bollaert, Brian
Bonds, Kevin
Boothe, Gary
Booze, Greg
Bope, David
Bordelon, Bruce
Borger, Robert
Boucher, Michel
Boulet, Paul
Bourne, Larry
Bowen, Gordon
Bowen, James
Bowen, Larry
Bowman, Brice
Bowman, John
Boxill, Mike
Boyd, Bill
Boyer, James R
Boyle, Neville
Brame, Charles
Brandt, Leroy
Brasch, Glenn
Breckenridge, Bruce
Bressler, Wes
Bressler, Wesley
Brick, John
Brien, Tim
Briggs, Gary
Brogley, Michael
Brooks, John
Brooks, Kenyon
Brooks, Sterling
Broom, Richard
Brown, Allen
Brown, Bob
Brunke, Judy
Bryan, Mark
Buchanan, Guy
Buchmann, Keith
Buckthal, Robert
Buess, Alfred
Bullett, Charles
Bullock, Jack
Bumhoffer, Al
Burden, Ron
Burke, James
Burkhardt, Michael
Burnaby, John
Burnett, Ron
Burns, Mark
Burrill, Phil
Burrows, Alan
Burton, James
Busch, Rob
Butcher, James
Butcher, Ron
Butler, Francis
Butler, Sherman
Butterfield, John
Buyse, Lieven
Caldwell, Rick
Cannon, Michael
Cannon, Paul
Cann, Tony
Cantrell, Jim
Cantrell, Jimmy
Capen, Ralph
Capra, Sal
Cardell, Bill
Carillon Sr, Paul
Carpenter, Jeffrey
Carpenter, Kenneth
Carriere, James
Carroll, Randy
Carter, David
Carter, Howard
Carter, PaulQ
Carter, Preston
Cary, William
Casson, Perry
Challgren, Stanley
Chambers, Ken
Champion, Robert
Chandler, Rick
Chang, Ted
Chatham, Robert
Checkoway, Dan
Chelvanayagam, Indran
Chenoweth, William
Chevaillier, Mason
Circle, Roger
Clarke, Christopher
Clarke, Paddy
Clark, James
Clark, Michael
Clay, Dennis
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
Cliff, John
Clifford, Dewayne
Clyma, Frank
Coalwell, Timothy
Cochran, Mark
Cochran, Stewart
Coggins, Mickey
Cole, Gary
Cole, Gerry
Cole, Roger
Colucci, Tony
Combs, Doyle
Combs, Jim
Comfort, Gordon
Compton, Scott
Condrey, Bob
Connell, Joseph
Conrad, Gerald
Constant, Jeremy
Cook, Doug
Cook, Marc
Cooling, John
Cooper, James
Cooper, Marcus
Corbalis, Leo
Corder, Michael
Corner, Jim
Corriveau, Grant
Cottingham, Richard
Cottrell, Larry
Coursey, William
Courtney, James
Coussons, Herb
Cox, John
Cravener, Donald
Crawford, Corey
Creer, Michael
Cribb, William
Crockett, Jim
Crosby, Harry
Crosley, Rich
Cross, Brian
Crothers, Bill
Cruikshank, Bruce
Culver, Ronald
Curtis, William
Dalstrom, Douglas
Dalton, Bob
Daniell, William
Danielsen, HansJ%c3%b8rgen
Daves, Russell
Davidson, Jeff
Davies, Brian
Davis, Barry
Davis, Deems
Davis, Robert
Dawson, Clif
Dawson, Garth
Decker, Daniel
Decramer, Dick
Deford, David
De Jong, Jan
Delaney, Tom
Deloach, Reginald
DelPeso, Jose
Delsol, Mich%c3%a8le
Dennis, Chris
Dewees, Ron
Dewey, Debbie
Dial, Larry
Dickson, Robert
Dieh, Donald
Dietrich, Klaus
Disher, John
Dominy, Kenneth
Donato, John
Dondlinger, Leo
Doran, Thomas
Dorsey, Robert
Doud, Herbert
Dovey, Martin
Doyle, Mike
Draper, Mike
Dresden, Robert
Dufresne, Robert
Duke, Gordon
Dunne, John
Durakovich, David
East, David
Eckenroth, Paul
Edgerton, Wayne
Edwards, Ed
Edwards, Joe
Ehlers, Clyde D
Eli, Robert
Ellenberger, Christopher
Ellenberger, Mike
Elliott, Andrew
Ellis, Dale
Elrod, Michael
Engel, Jerry
Engh, Duncan
England, Charles
Erickson, Alan
Erickson, Gerald
Erickson, Ken
Ervin, Thomas
Evenson, Roger
Fackler, Ken
Fair, Deal
Falik, Donald
Farmer, Daniel
Faulkner, Thomas
F, Dwight
Featherston, Les
Feldman, Herb
Felker, Timothy
Fetterman, Lanny
Fillinger, Fred
Filucci, Michael
Finley, John
Fischer, Douglas
Fischer, John
Fishe, James
Fisher, Richard
Fitzpatrick, Robert
Fix, Douglas
Flamini, Dennis
Flavin, John
Fluent, Grant
Flynn, Harold
Ford, Dean
Ford, John
Ford, Michael
Forrest, Gerald
Forsberg, Erik
Fosse, James M
Fox, Byron
Fox, Stephen
Franz, Carl
Fray, Jerry
Frazier, Ford
French, Edwin
French, James
Fromm, John
Fulgham, Bill
Fullilove, Ken
Fulmer, Joseph
Fussell, Larry
Fux, Franz
Gabbard, Gary
Gallagher, Noel
Gallenbach, Craig
Gantzer, Charles G
Gardner, Albert
Gardner, Terrence
Garland, Doug
Garrou, Douglas
Gates, Leo
Geese, Ronald
Geldermann, Daniel
Genzlinger, Reade
George, Joe
George, Neal
German, Mark
Giacona, William
Gibbons, Robert
Giddens, Gerald
Gillespie, Byron
Gillespie, Rl
Gilliatt, Jim
Glaeser, Dennis
Gleason, Mike
Goff, George
Goguen, Jon
Goguen, Nelson
Golden, Dennis
Goode, Richard
Goodings, John
Goodridge, Stuart
Goolsby, James
Gordon, Keith
Gottelt, Herbert
Gott, Shelby
Goudinoff, Peter
Gower, Gary
Gowing, John
Grabb, Gary
Graham, Jim
Graham Jr, W Doyce
Graichen, Peter
Grajek, Al
Grant, Jordan
Grantz, Alan
Green, Luther
Greenough, Jim
Griffin, Bill
Griffin, Jim
Griffin, Robert
Grigson, Greg
Grimmonpre, Jerry
Groell, Pascal
Groote, Curtis
Grosse, John
Gummo, Thomas
Gustafson, Aaron
Gwin, Rique
Hackler, Douglas
Haertlein, Frank
Hagar, Steve
Hale, Ade
Haley, Gary
Hall, Charles
Hall, Joel
Halvorsen, Lyf
Hamer, Steve
Hamilton, Red
Hamilton, William J
Hand, Christopher
Hankinson, Julian
Hanley, BrettAlan
Hanley, Mark
Hansen, ArnoldKristian
Hansen, Graham
Happ, Paul
Harcourt, David
Haring, Robert
Harmon, John
Harrill, Roy
Harrison, Nigel
Harrod, Peter
Hart, Rob
Hasbrouck, John
Hatch, Fletcher
Hatfield, Cecil
Hatfield, William
Hauck, John
Haverlah, Dennis
Haynes, Joel
Heaton, Herb
Hedrick, Keith
Hefferan, Rex
Hefner, Jim
Hegenauer, Elmar
Hegenauer, Manuela
Heindl, Karl
Hein, Jim
Heller, Martin
Helming, LarryRobert
Henwick, Mark
Heritch, Ian
Herminghaus, John
Herron, Al
Hershberger, Edward
Herzner, Fred
Hetrick, Dale
Heykoop, John
Hibbing, William
Higgins, Floran
Hill, Jeff
Hill, Ken
Hill, Kenneth
Hill, StanleyA
Hinde, Frank
Hodges, Mitchell
Hoffman, Allan
Hoffman, Carl
Holifield, Steve
Holland, James
Holland, Rick
Holliday, Robert
Holyoke, Ed
Honer, Michael
Hooper, Randy
Horne, Gilbert
Horton, Kevin
Howell, Kenneth
Howey, Ralph
Huft, John
Hughes, Robert
Hukill, Chris
Hunter, Robert
Hunt, Malcolm
Hunton, Jim
Hunt, Wallace
Hurd, James
Hurn, JohnAllen
Hurst, Kingsley
Hutchins, Mike
Hyde, Ken
Isler, Jerry
Jacko, Victor W
Jaussi, Curtis
Jensen, Charles
Jensen, Marinus
Jernigan, Carroll
Jessen, John
Johannsson, Johann G
Johansson, Max
John, Kent
Johnsen, Svein
Johnson, David
Johnson, DennisL
Johnson, Forrest
Johnson, Ken
Johnson, Russell
Johnson, William
Johnston, Christopher
Johnston, Dudley
Johnston, Stephen
Jones, David
Jones, Don W
Jones, Eric M
Jones, Kenneth
Joosten, Craig
Jordan, JR
Joyce, David
Jula, TheodoreF
Julian, Raymond
Jung, John
Jurotich, Matthew
Kaluza, Charles
Katra, James
Kaufmann, Robert
Kayner, Dennis
Kearney, John
Keener, Forest
Kelly, Michael
Kemp, Roger
Kenney, Thomas
Kerr, Dennis
Kesterton, Donald
Kilburg, Larry
Killion, Clay
Kimsey, Thomas
King, John
Kinkade, Les
Kinne, Russ
Kinney, Kevin
Kirk, Floyd
Kister, Dale
Klein, Larry
Klingmuller, Lothar
Knievel, Gerald
Knoll, Barrett
Knotts, F Barry
Knott, Vernon
Kohles, Jerry
Koonce, RL
Kramer, Ed
Krueger, Grant
Kruleski, Chet
Kulp, David
Kummer, Gerald
Kuntz, Paul
Kuss, Charles
Kyle, Fergus
Kyle, Larry
Lackwitz, Raymond
Ladd, Pat
Laird, Dave
Lammers, Dave
Lannon, Walter
Lansden, John
Larsen, Gene
Larson, Joseph
Larzilliere, Alain
Lathrop, Jim
Laundy, Mike
Laurie, Kip
Ledbetter, Gene
Lederman, Howard
Ledoux, Paul
Lee, Terrence
Lee, Thomas
Leggette, Edward
Lehman, Ken
Leinberger, Gary
Lekven, Carl
Lendon, Ron
Lenton, Dennis
Lerohl, Gaylen
Levy, Pierre
Lewis, Scott
Lewis, Terry
Lewis, Tim
Ligon, Howard
Lilja, Ken
Lind, David
Lindsay, Robert
Linebaugh, Jeff
Lineberry, Gary
Linse, Mike
Lively, Chad
Lloyd, Brian
Lloyd, Daniel
Loer, Stanley
Logan, Michael
Long, Charles
Long, Eugene
Long, Patrick
Longwell, Anna
Loring, Arthur
Loring Jr, Arthur P
Loubert, Gary
Lovley, Forrest
Lucas, David
Lundin, Richard
Lynch, Charles
Lyscars, Alan
Macdonald, Larry
Macinnes, Bruce
Mackay, Alex
Macon, Mike
Mahurin, Jerry
Mains, Ralph
Malczynski, Francis
Markle, Jim
Marlow, Sam
Marshall, Aaron
Marshall, FR
Martin, Jay
Martin, Mickey
Mason, John
Mason, Marty
Massari, Stephen
Massey, Allen
Masys, Daniel
Matejcek, Glen
Matlack, Dean
Matteson, Lynn
May, George
May, James
Mcallister, Paul
Mcbean, John
Mcbride, Duncan
Mccallister, Don
Mccallum, Robert
Mcchesney, James
Mcconnell, Roger
Mcdaniel, Steve
Mcdonald, Stephen
Mcfarland, Larry
Mcfarlane, Lloyd
Mckeon, Vincent
Mckervey, Joseph
Mckinnon, Greg
Mcmahon, John
Mcnutt, George
Medeiros, Joel
Melenyzer Iv, Cl
Mell, Roger
Merchant, Dean
Merrill, Dj
Messinger, Paul
Meyers, Jess
Meyers, John
Meylor, Dean
Milgrom, Mark
Miller, David
Miller, John
Miller, Michael
Miller, Terrence
Mills, Jack
Mitchell, Paul
Montagne, Ray
Montague, Neita
Montoure, Kenneth
Moore, Dave
Moore, David
Moore, Goff
Moore, Paul
Moore, Tom
Moore, Warren
Moran, Felix
Morawski, Brett
Morehead, Jim
Morley, Hal
MorrisN75up, Dave
Morris, Steven
Morrow, Dan
Mortimore, Terry
Moser, Scott
Mountain, Patrick
Mrotzek, Dan
Mulcahy, Bob
Muldoon Jr, Francis
Muller, Albert
Muller, Mick
Mulwitz, Paul
Munn, Mike
Munro, Robert
Murphy, Walt
Myers, George
Myers, Gerald
Myers, John
Nadeau, Michael
Naumuk, William
Navratil, Mark
Navratil, Richard
Naylor, Doug
Needham, James
Neilsen, Richard
Neitzel, Richard
Nelson, James
Nelson, Larry
Newkirk, Bill
Newsum, James
Nicely, Vince
Nichols, Clem
Niles, Bruce
Nimigon, David
Noyer, Robert
Nuckolls Iii, Robert L
Nutt, James
Obrien, John
Ochs, James
Ockuly, Bernie
Oconnor, Edward
O'Day, Jim
Offill, Danny
O'Hara, Tom
Ohnigian, Steve
Okeefe, Lawrence
Oke, Jim
Oldford, David
Oliver, Bradley
Olsen, Paul
Olson, Bob
Olson, Brad
Olson, Gary
Olson, Tim
Orear, Jeff
Orsborn, Thomas
Overgaard, Allan
Owens, Donald
Packard, Tom
Palamarek, Ted
Pansier, Don
Partyka, LeeM
Paulich, John
Payne, Craig
Pearsall, Don
Peck, Kenneth
Peerenboom, Paul
Pelletier, David
Pellien, James
Peoples, James
Perez, M Domenic
Perkinson, Robert
Perry, Ilan
Perry, Richard
Persels, Lyle
Peterson, Alex
Peterson, David A
Petri, David
Petty, Paul
Pfeifer, Michael
Pfundt, Jan
Phillips, Mark
Phillips, Terrence
Pierce, Roger
Pierce, Tony
Pierson Jr, Edward
Pierzina, Michael
Pike, Richard
Pilling, Kevin
Plecenik, Michael
Pocock, Graham
Point, Jeff
Polits, Richard
Ponzio, John
Porter, Richard
Portouw, Lawrence
Powell, Ken
Prater, Michael
Preston, Doug
Prevost, Guy
Princell, Bill
Pritchard, Jeff
Pritchard, Roger
Puglise, James
Puls, Jeffrey
Quinn, Rollie
Quist, David
Rabbers, Richard
Raby, Ron
Radford, Joe
Rammos, Ricardo
Randolph, George
Ransom, Brad
Rataj, Mark
Ray, Carl
Reel, David
Reese, Craig
Reese, Wayne
Reeves, Dan
Reid, Greg
Reining, Bill
Reining, Jonathan
Reusser, Hans-peter
Reynolds, Richard
Ribb, Dan
Rice, Paul
Richardson, Colin
Richardson, Paul
Richards, Stephen
Rickard, Ian
Rickman, Loy
Ricks, Allen
Rigby, David
Riggs, Lynn
Rigney, Bruce
Risch, Robert
Ritter, Mark T
Roberts, Gary
Roberts, John
Robertson, Bob
Roberts, Rick
Robinette, William
Robson, Peter
Rodebush, James
Rodgers, Paul
Rodriguez, Paul
Rodriguez, Pedro
Roehr, Michael
Ronnau, James
Ross, Christopher
Ross, Jonathan
Rousselle, Kenneth
Rowbotham, Chuck
Rowe, Denny
Rowe, Jay
Rueb, Duane
Ruksnaitis, WilliamF
Russell, Larry
Ryan, Michael
Sa, Carlos
Sagerser, James
Sager, Truman
Saligman, Ira
Sallas, C William
Salter, Phillip
Sanders, Andrew
Sanford, Fred
Sapp, Douglas
Sargeant, Jack
Sargent, Thomas
Savarese, Anthony Dennis
Sax, Sam
Saylor, David
Schemmel, Grant
Schertz, William
Schieber, Cedric
Schieffer, Charles
Schilf, Richard
Schlafly, Fred
Schlatterer, Bill
Schlosser, Kevin
Schmidt, John
Schmitendorf, Bill
Schneider, Benjamin
Schneider, Werner
Schoenberger, Robert
Schott, Jared
Schrader, Kurt
Schreck, Ron
Schrimmer, Mark
Schroeder, Earl
Schroeder, John
Schulke, Thomas
Scott,Jr, Fred W
Scott, Mark
Scroggs, Ross
Seagrave, Scott
Seal, John
Selby,Jr, Jim
Setser, David
Seve, Eddie
Shablow, John
Shafer, James
Shanks, Jim
Shank, William
Shannon, Kevin
Sharp, Michael
Sharp, Ralph
Shaw, Cliff
Shaw, Rex
Shepherd, Dallas
Shepherd, Stanislaus
Sheridan, Roger
Sherry, James
Shiple, Fred
Shipley, RobWM
Shipley, Walt
Shumaker, Jim
Siegfried, Oldbob
Simmons, Kendall
Simpson, Skip
Simutis, Frank J
Sinclair, Michael
Sinke, Jim
Sipp, Richard
Sisson, Phil
Skelly, Brian
Skyring, Kerry
Slatt, Gary
Small, Thomas
Smart, Steven
Smith, Bret
Smith, DannyL
Smith, Gene
Smith, Jeff
Smith, Kirk
Smith, Roland
Smith, Ronal
Smith, Zed
Snedaker, Bob
Snyder, Bruce
Soikkeli, Robert
Solecki, John
Sparks, Timothy
Spaur, Chuck
Specht, Stan
Spencer, Scott
Springer, Gerald
Spudis, Robert
Staal, Stephen
Staley, Dick
Starnes, Robert
Starn, JH "kabong"
Stefan, Leon
Steitle, Mark
Stelwagon, Frank
Stephanak, Bob
Stevenson, Will
Stewart, Michael
Stinemetze, Thomas
St-laurent, Ray
Stone, Christopher
Stone, Jim
Strange, Ted
Stribling, James
Strong, Gary
Sutterfield, Stan
Swaney, Mark
Swankie, Ian
Swartout, John
Swinford, George
Syverson, David
Szantho, John B
Tarmar, Brian
Tasker, Richard
Tatro, John
Tatz, Norm
Tauchen, Bryan
Taupier, John
Teegarden, Vaughn
Testement, John
Tew, Stanley
Textor, Jack
Tezyk, Robert
Thatcher, Scott
Therrien, Michel
Tholen, Tom
Thomas, Bruce
Thomas, Glenn
Thomas, James
Thomas, Lee
Thomason, Mannan
Thomason, Michael
Thomas, Stephen
Thorp, Kevin
Thwing, Randy
Tichy, Robert
Tilford, Stephen
Tillmann, Johan
Timm, Peter
Timoney, James
Tinker, R Rupert
Tomlin, Thomas
Tomm, Bevan
Tompkins, Jeff
Toro, Jose
Tower, John
Trombley, Erich
Trost, Sebastian
Trotter, Paul
Tuck, John
Tupper, Kirby
Turrell, Mike
Turrentine, Donna
Tuton, Bill
Tyler, George
Unruh, Brian
Unternaehrer, Rolf
Upshaw, Roman
Usrey, Reed
Utsey, Randy
Utterback, ThomasE
Vader, Tim
Valovich, Paul
Vandenberg, Daniel
Van Der Voort, Hans
VanDerZouw, Henkjan
Van Eldik, Anthony
Vangrunsven, Stan
VanHeeswijk, J
Van Lanen, David
Van Winkle, Alden
Varnes, William
Vaughan, Cye
Vaughan, Lee
Venables, JohnRoger
Verdev, Victor
Versteeg, Maarten
Vervoort, Jef
Vetterli, Richard
Vinal, Adelbert
Vinroot, Robert
Vogt, Gary
Von Bevern, Brian
Von Doymi, Carl
VonRuden, Dennis
Voss, Richard
Vranken, Karel
Wade, Jim
Wagner Jr, James E
Wagoner, Richard
Waligroski, Gregg
Walker, Robbie
Walker, Tommy
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Alex,
From up in not-quite-frozen-yet Vermont I have to offer that I have had the
same problem from time to time. I try to stay off the brakes while landing
so as to keep them cool. As a practical matter, it means rolling out to the
very end of the runway after landing and using the rudder (as you describe
below) to maintain directional control as much as possible. I don't recall
ever heating them up too much while just taxiing.
I do recall a thread about brake return springs on some of Van's older
brakes being too short. That might cause the brakes to drag even when your
feet are off them.
I don't see brake dust on the tops of my wheel pants. That's a new one.
Steve Soule
N227RV RV-6A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Peterson
Subject: RV-List: Freezing brakes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
--> <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
I am flying in my 5th winter with my 6A in Minnesota,
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
> I don't see brake dust on the tops of my wheel pants. That's
> a new one.
Steve,
It is not brake dust, it is tire dust. I noticed a big reduction in the
amount of it when I changed to a different tire brand. The black dust finds
its way up the gear leg and comes out through the gaps in the fuse/gear
fairing intersection fairing. I only bring it up here in case my setup is
somehow "pumping" snow dust up into the wheel fairings differently from
others.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 696 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Alex,
I do get that dust and just where you notice it. I believe you're right
about the mechanism.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Peterson
Subject: RE: RV-List: Freezing brakes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
--> <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
> I don't see brake dust on the tops of my wheel pants. That's
> a new one.
Steve,
It is not brake dust, it is tire dust. I noticed a big reduction in the
amount of it when I changed to a different tire brand. The black dust finds
its way up the gear leg and comes out through the gaps in the fuse/gear
fairing intersection fairing. I only bring it up here in case my setup is
somehow "pumping" snow dust up into the wheel fairings differently from
others.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 696 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Freezing brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/05 7:18:52 AM Central Standard Time,
alexpeterson@earthlink.net writes:
> The black dust finds
> its way up the gear leg and comes out through the gaps in the fuse/gear
> fairing intersection fairing
>>
Hi Alex- I see small amounts of the same dust at the top of the legs like you
mention although I had assumed it was from the pads but had never really
investigated. I'm fairly certain the wingroot area at the top of the fairings
is
low pressure (generally) since an air inlet I experimented with immediately
forward of my intersection fairing did not admit any air to the cabin. I would
imagine that if air is blown in around the tire opening, it would blow stuff
up the leg. Frozen brakes sounds a bit scary to a down-souther- ever see bad
flat spots on the tires?
Mark Phillips -6A, Columbia, TN do not archive
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| Subject: | Avionics, ACU, etc |
INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912
--> RV-List message posted by: "bob rundle" <bobrundle2@hotmail.com>
I'm trying to decide what exactly I need in terms of an ACU (Annunciation
Control Unit) for my setup.
My avionics are:
GNS430
GNC300XL
GMA340
GI106A
GTX327
Right now I only only a single GI106A. When this is connected to the G430, I
understand the G430 can select between GPS input and NAV input. i.e. it has
a built in ACU.
What about the 300XL? I too can be connected to a GI106A and display GPS
track information. But for this to occur you need to have an external ACU
to select between GPS/NAV, as well as ARM and ACTV the approach for
non-precision approaches.
So what if I only have 1 GI106A? Do I still need this ACU? The G430 will
change it without the need for an ACU. Right now I;m considering getting a
second GI106A and the ACU to hook up to the G300XL. Would this be the best
solution? As well I presume since I'll be only be doing non-precision
appracohes with the 300XL then I only need the GI102A, not the 106A
(glideslope indication as well).
Can someone clarify this for me?
Thank you
BobR
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| Subject: | Just ordered my Ti-Downs in Stock |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Hi Group,
I just ordered my Ti-Downs from Rob. Yes, Randy made them and they are the 5
loop with the bag, ropes and all.
Darrell
rv6n6r@comcast.net wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net
>Got a question:
>
>Doesn't anyone on this list know Randy Simpson personally, and is willing to >talk
to him over a beer or so to find out what really happened here???
>Just a thought.
Seems to me we all know what happened, or should by now. Randy is disorganized
and can be slow getting his product out. People who know him know he's not a crook,
makes good product when he gets around to it, and is a lousy businessman.
How about we stop beating this horse?
Randall
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Alternator Weight's (Reliability of alternators |
Van is selling)
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Airtech sells a new ND alternator kit for Lycomings with bolts, brackets and all
for $199.95. I bought one, very nice kit, excellent service!!!
Darrell
gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by:
About 7.3 lbs for the 60 amp. If you are worried about weight go with the smaller
industrial ND alternators like Niagara Air Parts sells. They weigh about 6.1
lbs and the brackets are going to more compact (lighter).
The Niagara kit has everything for $275. Also most important, Niagara supplies
only NEW genuine ND alternator, not a rebuilt alternator with aftermarket brand
replacement parts (like Van sells).
The Niagara / Nippondenso (ND) alternator is rated at 40 amps, but if you rated
it like Van, it would be a 45 amp alternator. Not sure why Van calls his alternator
is 60 amps, it's a 55 amp alternator at 5000 rpm. Alternators do tend to
make more power at higher RPM's, but the standard rating is at 5000 rpm.
The quality control of Van's supplier, where he buys rebuilt alternators is a little
questionable. ND alternators are VERY reliable, but there have been many
"events" with rebuilt alternators from Van, like: DOA, fails in hours of use,
voltage regulator starts to act odd (unstable voltage control) and a few other
things. In 15 years of using ND alternators (in both cars and planes), I have
never had a problem and have 1000's of combined hours on them. However these
are all genuine ND alternators, not rebuilds.
Reading and talking to other builders it seems there is a disproportionate number
of problems with the ND alternators Van sells. In fact of the 4-5 problems
I know of, every one came from Van. Where Niagara has never had a return or complaint
in 8 years.
If a rebuild is done well, with all serviceable parts replaced, with best quality
parts (even aftermarket just good aftermarket), inspected, assembled and tested
with care, they can be OK. However the quality of many rebuilds are suspect.
Go to automotive message boards and read about all the people who buy rebuilt
alternators for there car and complain about how long they last, not long.
A new ND alternator (brand new original ND) is much better than a rebuild in my
opinion, if you can get them. Unfortunately the Suzuki Samurai NipponDenso alternator
Van sells can not be bought new from ND. So you have to pick your supplier
carefully.
George
>From: Leesafur(at)aol.com
>Date: Dec 04, 2005
>Subject: VANS ALTERNATOR WEIGHTS
>Does anybody know the weights of the alternators that vans sells?
>I search the archives but didn't find anything.
>Thanks Lee
>RV-3
---------------------------------
Darrell
RV7A - 622DR Reserved
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Freezing brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
When I replaced my solid, assembled-in-place gear leg fariings with wood stiffeners,
with the hollow premolded fairings from Van's, I immediately began smelling
burning rubber after each hard-surface landing. Discincerting until I realized
the tires always emitted smoke on touchdown, but I coiuld never smell it
until it started coming up the chimney afforded by the hollow fairings. It penetrates
the cockpit sidewalls around the brake lines and aileron p-p tube to
gain access to the cockpit and my nostrils.
Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Freezing brakes
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/05 7:18:52 AM Central Standard Time,
alexpeterson@earthlink.net writes:
> The black dust finds
> its way up the gear leg and comes out through the gaps in the fuse/gear
> fairing intersection fairing
>>
Hi Alex- I see small amounts of the same dust at the top of the legs like you
mention although I had assumed it was from the pads but had never really
investigated. I'm fairly certain the wingroot area at the top of the fairings
is
low pressure (generally) since an air inlet I experimented with immediately
forward of my intersection fairing did not admit any air to the cabin. I would
imagine that if air is blown in around the tire opening, it would blow stuff
up the leg. Frozen brakes sounds a bit scary to a down-souther- ever see bad
flat spots on the tires?
Mark Phillips -6A, Columbia, TN do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Alternator Weight's (Reliability of alternators |
Van is selling)
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
How about a web site for Airtech? I get no joy on google
Denis Walsh
On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
>
> Airtech sells a new ND alternator kit for Lycomings with bolts,
> brackets and all for $199.95. I bought one, very nice kit,
> excellent service!!!
>
> Darrell
>
> gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by:
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| Subject: | Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Gents,
Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
pertinent data.
1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
5. Runs great!
6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
Do I need to be concerned?
Do something? Do nothing?
Thanks
Mike
S8
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only)<<
So, you only get diaper rash on the other side, huh?
>>What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?<<
Dunno, Kahuna. Lick it and see if you die (slowly, painfully). If so, yup, it
was probably lead. Don't know much about engines, but I have treated a few kids
for lead poisoning...
>>RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540<<
Ah, there's your problem: too many cylinders in that -8, friend ;-)
-Stormy
hope some non-clown chimes in with a real answer for you <g>
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
Gents,
Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
pertinent data.
1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
5. Runs great!
6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
Do I need to be concerned?
Do something? Do nothing?
Thanks
Mike
S8
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Just ordered my Ti-Downs in Stock |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
<< I just ordered my Ti-Downs from Rob. Yes, Randy made them and they are the 5
loop with the bag, ropes and all.
Darrell >>
I must have missed something, who's Rob? I really want a set of Randy's tie downs
so if there is a way to get them, other than throwing some money in the ring
and hoping for the best, I'd sure like to know about it.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 161 hours and down for painting.
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Mike,
I have seen the creme color in the exhaust stacks of many well-running
aircraft engines (and OLD SCHOOL car engines).
By well running, I mean both smooth and free of carbon and oil. Many
aircraft bootoms have that mixed with some oil films.
To me the most curious part is it coming from only one side of the exhausts
assuming there is some crossover (as in NOT having all mag cylinders on one
exhaust side and all EI on the other).
On the "mag drop" I interpret the change as your EI is giving you and
"additional" 120 RPM for free (150-30). Thus a 5% improvement over a base of
2400 RPM. Do you see approximately 5% improvement in performance from the
engine "specs"??
Summary: I don't have an anser ... just some opinions/stuff to think about.
James
p.s. Again thanks for the help on Saturday!
On 12/5/05, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <
> mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
>
> Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
> My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
> pertinent data.
>
> 1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
> 2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
> 3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
> 4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
> 5. Runs great!
> 6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
> 7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
> 8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
> but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
> have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
> timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
> Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8
>
> Do not archive
>
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Mike, try using TCP and see if it stops happening. My guess is that for
some strange reason lead is not being scavenged as well in one side of your
exhaust, but is in the other. Temperatures too low maybe to effectively
scavenge lead? I wouldn't be too concerned about it, unless you were
fouling plugs, or had too much lead in your oil.
I only see the lead deposits in the last 3-4" of my exhaust pipes...if I
look further up inside I see the normal sooty stuff. I imagine it has
something to do with the temperature of the pipes which causes the lead
deposits on the coolest part of the exhaust system.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const. (perpetually)
On 12/5/05, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <
> mstewart@iss.net>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
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| Subject: | VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Howdy folks,
We've applied at the VNY FSDO for a new set of operating limitations
based on the latest version being offered by the FAA so that we can
equip and operate our RV-6a as an IFR aircraft. I had an appointment to
pick up our amended oplims today, but the inspector just called to tell
me that experimental aircraft are not allowed at VNY, BUR and WHP (where
we're based) and some other airports as well. I objected to this
vehemently and requested that he show me chapter and verse in the
regulations where it says that they have any authority to prohibit
certain types of aircraft from specific airports. He said he'd do some
research and get back to me, but canceled our appointment for this
afternoon.
I had heard that VNY FSDO had tried this tack in the past, but thought
they had been shown the light. Has anybody else run into this kind of
bull? How did it shake out?
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
If it's on the side were the engine vent is located then it's a little
blow-by mixing with the burnt lead residue.... which I believe is normal....
Scott
N162RV
Flying
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>Gents,
>
>
>Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
>My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
>film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
>pertinent data.
>
>1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
>2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
>3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
>4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
>5. Runs great!
>6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
>7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
>8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
>but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
>have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
>timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
>Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
>What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
>Do I need to be concerned?
>
>Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>S8
>
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Is it the side with the smoke system nozzle? Just curious if that has
anything to do with it.
Apologies in advance for asking such a mundane question, but...is it the
side with the breather tube exit? My belly gets more greasy on one side
than the other -- for obvious reasons it's greasiest on the side with the
breather.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
> --> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> >>6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only)<<
>
> So, you only get diaper rash on the other side, huh?
>
>>>What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?<<
>
> Dunno, Kahuna. Lick it and see if you die (slowly, painfully). If so,
> yup, it was probably lead. Don't know much about engines, but I have
> treated a few kids for lead poisoning...
>
>>>RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540<<
>
> Ah, there's your problem: too many cylinders in that -8, friend ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
> hope some non-clown chimes in with a real answer for you <g>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
>
> Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
> My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
> pertinent data.
>
> 1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
> 2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
> 3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
> 4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
> 5. Runs great!
> 6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
> 7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
> 8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
> but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
> have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
> timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
> Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Have you contacted EAA? I would think they would want to jump all over
this. Seems like they may be confusing sport plane with experimental, but
who knows where they dreamt this up.
Do Not Archive
Ed Holyoke said:
I had an appointment to
> pick up our amended oplims today, but the inspector just called to tell
> me that experimental aircraft are not allowed at VNY, BUR and WHP (where
> we're based) and some other airports as well.
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Mine's been doing the same lately. I'm been able to run a little leaner
with the cooler weather, so maybe that's why it recently started. Mine's
on the right side of the belly. O-360/carb/mags.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 148 Hrs
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
>
> Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
> My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
> pertinent data.
>
> 1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
> 2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
> 3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
> 4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
> 5. Runs great!
> 6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
> 7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
> 8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
> but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
> have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
> timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
> Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Both sides have nozzles although I did not use them on this last test
cycle for the bottom cleanliness.
Funny thing is the breather is on the clean side.
The cream colored film is a dry film you can scrape off with your
fingernail but it is not greasy like an oily bottom from a breather.
I use "scrubbing bubbles' to spit shine the bottom and after a few hours
the cream is back on one side only clearly trailing only one exhaust.
And Bob J, what is TCP?
Mike
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Is it the side with the smoke system nozzle? Just curious if that has
anything to do with it.
Apologies in advance for asking such a mundane question, but...is it the
side with the breather tube exit? My belly gets more greasy on one side
than the other -- for obvious reasons it's greasiest on the side with
the
breather.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
> --> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> >>6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only)<<
>
> So, you only get diaper rash on the other side, huh?
>
>>>What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?<<
>
> Dunno, Kahuna. Lick it and see if you die (slowly, painfully). If so,
> yup, it was probably lead. Don't know much about engines, but I have
> treated a few kids for lead poisoning...
>
>>>RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540<<
>
> Ah, there's your problem: too many cylinders in that -8, friend ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
> hope some non-clown chimes in with a real answer for you <g>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
>
> Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
> My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
> pertinent data.
>
> 1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
> 2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
> 3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
> 4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
> 5. Runs great!
> 6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
> 7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
> 8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems
high
> but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
> have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
> timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I
dunno.
> Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Freezing brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/05 10:38:47 AM Central Standard Time,
sportav8r@aol.com writes:
> I immediately began smelling burning rubber after each hard-surface
> landing.
>>>>
Yep- I get the same thing in my plane. Originally I figured it was sucking
in from the tail, but eventually realized the chimneys were the obvious
route...
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/05 11:29:09 AM Central Standard Time,
mstewart@iss.net writes:
> I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust.
>>>
Have you eliminated your smoke system as a source?
Mark - do not archive
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| Subject: | VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Good suggestion. I called them right after I sent off that first e-mail
in and am waiting for a reply from their point man on FAA stuff who's at
lunch.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Subject: Re: RV-List: VNY FSDO weirdness
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Have you contacted EAA? I would think they would want to jump all over
this. Seems like they may be confusing sport plane with experimental,
but
who knows where they dreamt this up.
Do Not Archive
Ed Holyoke said:
I had an appointment to
> pick up our amended oplims today, but the inspector just called to
tell
> me that experimental aircraft are not allowed at VNY, BUR and WHP
(where
> we're based) and some other airports as well.
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| Subject: | Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>And Bob J, what is TCP?
TCP is a fuel additive that is supposed to help minimize lead fouling.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
>Do something? Do nothing?
Personally I think it is not right that you have such a large
engine in an RV. Are you the fastest on your field?
What is your top speed or 75% speed at 8000' DA?
Ron Lee
Oops, here is the required smiley :)
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Is it possible that it is being blown up one side by the prop wash? I remember
reading somewhere that spam-can makers put the exhaust stack on the pax side
for that reason. Wouldn't tell you what it is - just why it's only on one side.
my .02
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cream colored bottom.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Mine's been doing the same lately. I'm been able to run a little leaner
with the cooler weather, so maybe that's why it recently started. Mine's
on the right side of the belly. O-360/carb/mags.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 148 Hrs
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
>
> Got a new RV-8 with ~100 hours on an overhauled IO-540
>
> My Fuse bottom is painted dark red and I have this cream colored dry
> film, clearly only coming out of ONE SIDE of my exhaust. Here is some
> pertinent data.
>
> 1. Cylinders tracking great on the engine monitor
> 2. I generally run 50LOP, or 30Rop, 100LL av gas
> 3. Cylinders compression are high 70's
> 4. Injectors flow matched to .1gph
> 5. Runs great!
> 6. Cream covers my bottom(one side only) in ~10 hours
> 7. Oil consumption is ~1qt 8 hrs
>
> 8. Mag check gives me 150rmp drop on mag only, 30 on EI. 150 seems high
> but after the drop all cylinders run even on the engine monitor so I
> have just accepted this as normal but I don't know if it is. I have
> timed the mag with 2 different units and it is a new mag sooo. I dunno.
> Maybe 150 drop is fine on a 6 cyl.
>
>
> What is the cream stuff exactly? Burnt lead?
>
> Do I need to be concerned?
>
> Do something? Do nothing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Received Ti-Downs TODAY |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
WOW... that was lightning fast. I ordered my Ti-Downs on Friday 12/02/2005. I received
them today Monday 12/05/2005, and there was a weekend in there too.
Everyone is correct in that they are beautiful!!
Darrell
RV7A - 622DR Reserved
---------------------------------
Let fate take it's course directly to your email.
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
http://www.alcorinc.com/products/tcp/
On 12/5/05, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <
> mstewart@iss.net>
>
> And Bob J, what is TCP?
>
> Mike
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Ed ,
Did you say out to lunch?
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
If you want to try something that does the same
thing but is a bit less toxic, try this:
http://www.decalinchemicals.com/fueladditive.html
> http://www.alcorinc.com/products/tcp/
>
> On 12/5/05, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <
>>mstewart@iss.net>
>>
>>And Bob J, what is TCP?
>>
>>Mike
>>Do not archive
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
do not archive
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| Subject: | VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Oh - I hope not. :-)
I did get a cal back from the EAA guy. He thinks that perhaps the FAA
guy is confusing first flight/flight test restrictions with normal
operations and will relent when this is straightened out. He was going
to call the inspector to try and resolve it. No call back from either
party yet.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson
Subject: Re: RV-List: VNY FSDO weirdness
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Ed ,
Did you say out to lunch?
Jim
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| Subject: | VNY FSDO weirdness |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
OK - here's the latest.
The FAA airworthiness inspector called me back. It seems that we did not
communicate well this morning or at our previous meeting. The issue
appears to be the flight test area and corridor to get to it and back,
not where the aircraft is based. He said that he is ready to issue the
oplims as soon as a flight test area can be defined to his boss's
satisfaction. This is the area in which the aircraft will have to be
flown if and when it is returned to Phase I operations after a major
alteration. Following 5 hours in the test area and a logbook entry, the
aircraft can be returned to Phase II operations. He was reading the
boundaries of the flight test area as it was defined in our original
oplims in '98 and thinking that I was asking for the same area verbatim.
I had told him that I would accept any reasonable test area and that it
doesn't have to be the same as the original. Since '98 they have
redefined most of that area including WHP as densely populated. He says
we'll have this worked out within a few days. Hope so.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0063 1.0000 -4.3997
--> RV-List message posted by: "Al Grajek" <algrajek@msn.com>
NO!NO!NO
It is a big scam. Trust me. Look at the feedback. All from sellers, not
buyers. These guys are in Romania. Even the guy they give for reference
doesNOT work for Ebay. I checked it out. When I first looked there wer 8 or
10 of these. After Ebay investigated, there was one. Also notice, the email
address chandes a lot. AND there is NO way to get the money back. Thats why
they use Western Union. Like they say, "if its too good to be true......."
Al Grajek
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| Subject: | Re: Cream colored bottom. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Seiders <seiders@bellsouth.net>
It's a lead scavenging agent Mike, to avoid fouling plugs.
Dick Seiders RV6A
At 04:35 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
>http://www.alcorinc.com/products/tcp/
>
>On 12/5/05, Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <
> > mstewart@iss.net>
> >
> > And Bob J, what is TCP?
> >
> > Mike
> > Do not archive
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Priming/painting piano hinges? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com>
Hi everyone. Just a quick question.
For those who prime most everything before assembling, do you prime
piano hinges as well? And/or for those who paint their aircraft, do
the hinges get painted? Or should they be masked before painting the
plane, and skipped in priming?
I don't have my packing list handy at the moment, so I don't know if
the hinge is stainless steel or otherwise already fairly impervious
to corrosion. In any case, if everything else is being primed/
painted, I'd be tempted to be consistent, except for the concern that
primer and/or paint would get into the hinge itself, stiffening its
travel...
Any suggestions?
Thanks.. Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Priming/painting piano hinges? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
I have painted several hinges without a problem. Keep the grease in the
hinge pin to a minimum and be sure to clean the outside surfaces good to
keep the paint from chipping off. You will get some paint chipping on the
hinge anyway, but not too much. I don't bother to prime the hinge before
riveting it on. You can just shoot primer on it and the surface it is
rivited to at the same time. Aluminum hinges are anodized fairly well so
you don't really need to worry about them corroding on the back sides.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Charrois
Subject: RV-List: Priming/painting piano hinges?
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com>
Hi everyone. Just a quick question.
For those who prime most everything before assembling, do you prime
piano hinges as well? And/or for those who paint their aircraft, do
the hinges get painted? Or should they be masked before painting the
plane, and skipped in priming?
I don't have my packing list handy at the moment, so I don't know if
the hinge is stainless steel or otherwise already fairly impervious
to corrosion. In any case, if everything else is being primed/
painted, I'd be tempted to be consistent, except for the concern that
primer and/or paint would get into the hinge itself, stiffening its
travel...
Any suggestions?
Thanks.. Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Re: Priming/painting piano hinges? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I think it is personal preference. I fit the hinge and even hold it in
place with a soft pop rivet if needed, but then remove it to paint the
other surfaces. For me the paint seems to chip on the hinge so I polish
or leave anodized and do final install after painting.
Dan Charrois wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com>
>
>Hi everyone. Just a quick question.
>
>For those who prime most everything before assembling, do you prime
>piano hinges as well? And/or for those who paint their aircraft, do
>the hinges get painted? Or should they be masked before painting the
>plane, and skipped in priming?
>
>I don't have my packing list handy at the moment, so I don't know if
>the hinge is stainless steel or otherwise already fairly impervious
>to corrosion. In any case, if everything else is being primed/
>painted, I'd be tempted to be consistent, except for the concern that
>primer and/or paint would get into the hinge itself, stiffening its
>travel...
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks.. Dan
>--
>Syzygy Research & Technology
>Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
>Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Priming/painting piano hinges? |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
I asked Van's about that. They said there was no need as the hinges have
good corrosion protection as they come from the factory.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Wings
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