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1. 02:57 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical ()
2. 04:06 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Chuck Jensen)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick (Oliver Washburn)
4. 05:25 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (LarryRobertHelming)
5. 05:38 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Bob Collins)
6. 06:06 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 06:43 AM - Re: Lying on medical (charles heathco)
8. 06:54 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Frank Stringham)
9. 06:54 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Paul Folbrecht)
10. 06:56 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Frank Stringham)
11. 07:00 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Dan Beadle)
12. 07:09 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Vincent Osburn)
13. 07:25 AM - Re: ND New Alternator kit (Ron Lee)
14. 07:28 AM - Re: Lying on medical (Ed Bundy)
15. 07:31 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Bob Collins)
16. 07:32 AM - >Re:Lying on Medical (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
17. 08:06 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net (Bob Collins))
18. 08:18 AM - Glass Cockpit Options (Valovich, Paul)
19. 09:01 AM - Re: ND New Alternator kit (Darrell Reiley)
20. 09:29 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Folbrecht, Paul)
21. 09:42 AM - Re: Lying on medical (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
22. 10:35 AM - Re: Lying on medical (Paul Folbrecht)
23. 11:06 AM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Chuck Jensen)
24. 11:36 AM - Re: Glass Cockpit Options (Ron Lee)
25. 05:18 PM - looking for a nice RV-4 (Larry E. James)
26. 06:01 PM - Re: looking for a nice RV-4 (Mannan J. Thomason)
27. 06:54 PM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Dave Nellis)
28. 08:33 PM - Re: Re:Lying on Medical (Ron Lee)
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
free.
Ever hear of the Light Sport Pilot program? No medical. Just a driver's
license. As I build my -7A to replace my -6A, I'm patiently waiting for
Van's new offering to compete with other LSA entries. I know my age won't
allow me many more years of having a medical without the major expenses due
to age problems. Of course, all of us older guys face that situation. :-(
Of course, there are more than one might think who do fly without medicals.
I have mine; but, it seems I've read somewhere that less than one percent of
crashes are due to some medical problem. I'm betting most of us would not
fly if we thought there was something wrong with us that would endanger
anyone. I think we'd be a lot safer than those who drive the roads every
day and don't have to have any kind of medical exam to be allowed to drive.
Some of those folks are just looking for a place to have an accident; and,
they drive, anyway! I have an old friend like that. Fortunately, his car
is broken; and, I'm not about to help him fix it. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Just a guess but flying with no medical is better than flying with a
lyin' medical.
Chuck Jensen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
free.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
Nose wheel bent, dug in and plane nosed over.
Ollie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>
> Ollie - sorry to dwell on this, but did it tip over forwards with the
> nosewheel collapsing or some other way. Steve.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "oliver h washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "oliver h washburn"
>> <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Mike,
>> Yes it was an RV and i suppose there is no way of knowing, but if you
>> lay
>> a straight edge on a tip-up drawing it goes right through the tip-up and
>> just maybe a rollbar would have prevented his broken neck. I was the
>> second
>> one there and I"m saying no more.
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
>>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 12/7/2005 3:04:02 PM
>>> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
>>>
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
>> <mstewart@iss.net>
>>>
>>> Ollie,
>>> Is it your opinion that your friend would have lived with the rollbar?
>>> Was this an RV?
>>> Mike
>>> Very sorry about your friend
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Washburn
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
>>>
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> A good case for the slider in my opinion is take a look at which
>>> should
>>> give you the most protection in case of a nose over. I lost a good
>>> friend in
>>> a nose over in a tip-up this year.
>>>
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
>>>
>>>
>>> > --> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>>> >
>>> > I like the slider for the summer months when it is hot. Its nice to be
>>> > able to slide the canopy back after landing.
>>> > I live in Wyoming where the wind blows A LOT!. That is the main reason
>>> I
>>> > went with the slider. I would hate to loss the canopy to a 30-35 mph
>>> > gust, and yes I have landed in those kind of winds and maybe more.
>>> >
>>> > John L. Danielson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Buchanan
>>> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-7 Tip or slide? time to pick
>>> >
>>> > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>>> >
>>> > Paul Folbrecht wrote:
>>> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht
>>> > <pfolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> Where do you fly? I have to think being able to pull the slider back
>>> > on
>>> >> the ground in the summer is huge.. I roast in my 152 with the windows
>>> >> open even on those long taxis, waiting for release, etc...
>>> >>
>>> >> If I were in Seattle where it was never 90 and humid I think I'd want
>>> >> the tip-up.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I fly, just as Mike does, in the hot, humid, muggy, sticky, hazy
>>> > Southeast USA. In my opinion, the oft-repeated advantage of the slider
>>> > in hot climates is overstated. The tip-up latch allows the canopy to
>>> be
>>> > placed in a taxi position that creates a strong flow of air from
>>> > propwash through the cabin at face level that allows the occupants to
>>> > stay reasonable comfortable. Any RV is going to be warm during taxi in
>>> > the summer, but I have never found the tip-up to be uncomfortable
>>> enough
>>> >
>>> > to tempt me to trade away the fantastic visibility the tip-up offers.
>>> >
>>> > Now...as far as whether or not to prime the inside of the
>>> airframe.....
>>> > ;-)
>>> >
>>> > Sam Buchanan (~700 happy, comfortable hours in a tip-up RV-6)
>>> > http://thervjournal.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I believe the original lying thing was done by commercial pilots who lied to
keep from being disqualified from and out of a job. They were not just
risking their own lives, but all the passengers and crew. The insurance
carrier would have fun with that one if they had 300 deaths to settle with.
Same rules, different perspectives.
Indiana Larry
"Please use the information and opinions I express with responsibility, and
at your own risk."
----- Original Message -----
From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
> free.
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
Check out the pilot's in the Northwest Airline Crash in Hibbing, Minnesota
about 10 years ago. I'm still trying to figure out why he was allowed to
fly. But he did.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryRobertHelming
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:25 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming"
> --> <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> I believe the original lying thing was done by commercial
> pilots who lied to
> keep from being disqualified from and out of a job. They
> were not just
> risking their own lives, but all the passengers and crew.
> The insurance
> carrier would have fun with that one if they had 300 deaths
> to settle with.
> Same rules, different perspectives.
>
> Indiana Larry
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Actually, I believe if you are denied a medical you are also disqualified for
LSA so you would have to avoid getting the medical if you knew it would be denied.
Could be wrong.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sears@searnet.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
free.
Ever hear of the Light Sport Pilot program? No medical. Just a driver's license.
As I build my -7A to replace my -6A, I'm patiently waiting for Van's new
offering to compete with other LSA entries. I know my age won't allow me many
more years of having a medical without the major expenses due to age problems.
Of course, all of us older guys face that situation. :-(
Of course, there are more than one might think who do fly without medicals.
I have mine; but, it seems I've read somewhere that less than one percent of crashes
are due to some medical problem. I'm betting most of us would not fly if
we thought there was something wrong with us that would endanger anyone. I
think we'd be a lot safer than those who drive the roads every day and don't have
to have any kind of medical exam to be allowed to drive.
Some of those folks are just looking for a place to have an accident; and,
they drive, anyway! I have an old friend like that. Fortunately, his car
is broken; and, I'm not about to help him fix it. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Lying on medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Re this report, I think I saw it on AvWebb newsletter, but posibly on Aopa newsletter.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Hi to all
If I were a rich man I would do a complete research of the files and
determine how many accidents can be attribiuted to a medical problem. There
would also be many underlying questions that would also be
researched.......With that said my gut tells me it would be few. Ya I know
that there is a control camp that wants even more stringent medicals and
adjudication processes. Then there are guy like me that think that the Light
Sport Drivers Lic. should have been extended to all private Lic. pilots. Let
biannual flight review be the factor that determines our pilot skill and
health acuity.
Thanks for all your great help on this and other more important plane
building questions and as always
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:24:42 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
>I believe the original lying thing was done by commercial pilots who lied
>to
>keep from being disqualified from and out of a job. They were not just
>risking their own lives, but all the passengers and crew. The insurance
>carrier would have fun with that one if they had 300 deaths to settle with.
>Same rules, different perspectives.
>
>Indiana Larry
>
>"Please use the information and opinions I express with responsibility, and
>at your own risk."
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> >
> > I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> > Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
> > free.
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <pfolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
Yeah, that's exactly how the rule ended up being written.
Also, the way the forms are submitted electronically now, once you go in
to the AME there's no backing out. The FAA will know you were there and
if you end up having a disqualifying condition, you're SOL.
I'm glad I probably won't have to deal with medical nonsense for decades
yet (I'm 35). I feel for the guys that do.. all the guys who are
completely safe yet harrassed by the FAA, that is.
~Paul
~9A QB #1176
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Actually, I believe if you are denied a medical you are also disqualified for
LSA so you would have to avoid getting the medical if you knew it would be denied.
Could be wrong.
>
>Michael Sausen
>-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sears@searnet.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>
>
>
>>I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
>>Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
>>
>>
>free.
>
>Ever hear of the Light Sport Pilot program? No medical. Just a driver's license.
As I build my -7A to replace my -6A, I'm patiently waiting for Van's new
offering to compete with other LSA entries. I know my age won't allow me many
more years of having a medical without the major expenses due to age problems.
Of course, all of us older guys face that situation. :-(
>
>Of course, there are more than one might think who do fly without medicals.
>I have mine; but, it seems I've read somewhere that less than one percent of crashes
are due to some medical problem. I'm betting most of us would not fly
if we thought there was something wrong with us that would endanger anyone. I
think we'd be a lot safer than those who drive the roads every day and don't
have to have any kind of medical exam to be allowed to drive.
>Some of those folks are just looking for a place to have an accident; and,
>they drive, anyway! I have an old friend like that. Fortunately, his car
>is broken; and, I'm not about to help him fix it. :-)
>
>Jim Sears in KY
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Mike
you are right and that is just how stupid the rule in this particular case
is and to me in General
DNA (Do not archive)
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:05:53 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
><rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Actually, I believe if you are denied a medical you are also disqualified
>for LSA so you would have to avoid getting the medical if you knew it would
>be denied. Could be wrong.
>
>Michael Sausen
>-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sears@searnet.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
>
>
> > I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> > Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
>free.
>
>Ever hear of the Light Sport Pilot program? No medical. Just a driver's
>license. As I build my -7A to replace my -6A, I'm patiently waiting for
>Van's new offering to compete with other LSA entries. I know my age won't
>allow me many more years of having a medical without the major expenses due
>to age problems. Of course, all of us older guys face that situation. :-(
>
>Of course, there are more than one might think who do fly without medicals.
>I have mine; but, it seems I've read somewhere that less than one percent
>of crashes are due to some medical problem. I'm betting most of us would
>not fly if we thought there was something wrong with us that would endanger
>anyone. I think we'd be a lot safer than those who drive the roads every
>day and don't have to have any kind of medical exam to be allowed to drive.
>Some of those folks are just looking for a place to have an accident; and,
>they drive, anyway! I have an old friend like that. Fortunately, his car
>is broken; and, I'm not about to help him fix it. :-)
>
>Jim Sears in KY
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <Dan.Beadle@hq.InclineSoftworks.com>
True - if you are denied, you cannot fly LSA on driver's license.
But also, if you know that you have something disqualifying, you cannot
fly LSA - Self Certifying.
Same for FAA Medical - know you have a condition and you cannot fly,
even if you are not being treated for it.
In either case, if you have a problem (incident/accident) and you
knowingly withheld information, you would be in violation and your
insurance would most likely be invalid.
FAA allows a tremendous number of drugs. Antidepressants aren't on the
list. Easy to check the list. I had a student who was taking a mild
antidepressant. He was able to get his medical. He had to be off the
medication for 90 days and get cleared by his doctor. (Flying was such
a high that he no longer needed the medication ;) Sailed through - with
all the proper disclosures.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Actually, I believe if you are denied a medical you are also
disqualified for LSA so you would have to avoid getting the medical if
you knew it would be denied. Could be wrong.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sears@searnet.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
free.
Ever hear of the Light Sport Pilot program? No medical. Just a
driver's license. As I build my -7A to replace my -6A, I'm patiently
waiting for Van's new offering to compete with other LSA entries. I
know my age won't allow me many more years of having a medical without
the major expenses due to age problems. Of course, all of us older guys
face that situation. :-(
Of course, there are more than one might think who do fly without
medicals.
I have mine; but, it seems I've read somewhere that less than one
percent of crashes are due to some medical problem. I'm betting most of
us would not fly if we thought there was something wrong with us that
would endanger anyone. I think we'd be a lot safer than those who drive
the roads every day and don't have to have any kind of medical exam to
be allowed to drive.
Some of those folks are just looking for a place to have an accident;
and,
they drive, anyway! I have an old friend like that. Fortunately, his
car
is broken; and, I'm not about to help him fix it. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Osburn" <flyby41@earthlink.net>
I had a friend who flew his RV for about 8 years and over 360 hours with
no medical.
He had a seizure just after completing his RV4. He was in a coma for 3
days. He believed that it was cause by aspartame better known as Nutra
Sweet. He worked outdoors and consumed a lot of diet soda. A 6 pack of diet
Pepsi every day. There is a big class action law suit on going about people
who cannot tolerate aspartame. Few people know of this. There are many
deaths believed to be attributed to aspartame. Anyway he avoided all
substances believed to cause seizures in some people including MSG and he
flew his plane when he felt perfectly well and in the mean time tried to
regain his medical. He did quit flying about 2 years before succumbing to a
fatal seizure which was about 10 years after his medical was denied.
do not archive
> [Original Message]
> From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/8/2005 7:41:06 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO medical ??
> Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a bunch of hours for
free.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ND New Alternator kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>This is a nice alternator kit available with a ND or Mitsu NEW alternator.
>
> I bought one, Richard sells a nice kit. EBay 4596218435
>
> Worth checking out and the price is right...
What is the deal with Ebay selling of aircraft parts? Maybe I am too
skeptical
but it raises a flag to me.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Lying on medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
It also amazes me that the potential fine is 8X the fine levied on the city
of Chicago when an elected official illegally destroyed a federal airport
under the cloak of darkness.
Ed Bundy
> Yeah ain't it amazing how it's OK with the FAA for marginal
> manic/depressive/AADD/depressed etc to fly without the aide of
> modern pharmaceuticals on threat
> of losing the ability to do so more safely?
>
--
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
> FAA allows a tremendous number of drugs. Antidepressants
> aren't on the list. Easy to check the list. I had a student
> who was taking a mild antidepressant. He was able to get his
> medical. He had to be off the medication for 90 days and get
> cleared by his doctor. (Flying was such a high that he no
> longer needed the medication ;) Sailed through - with all
> the proper disclosures.
>
As I said, ostensibly, the reason for the anti-depressants isn't so much the
condition being treated, but the side effects of the medication. It would be
nice to have some enlightenment on mental health issues reach the FAA at
some point because the current policy is rooted in the days of "Titticut
Follies". A good place to start would be continuing the disqualifying
nature of the drug for a period of time -- 6 months perhaps -- while doctors
evaluate whether there are any side effects in the individual and, if not,
so stating them.
The one-size-fits-all method is antiquated and it would be enlightened if
the FAA medical department could see fit to extent evaluations based on
individual situations, just as it does for virtually every OTHER aspect of a
pilot's medical.
But I'm not holding my breath.
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| Subject: | Re: >Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I made the mistake of sending my paperwork in about 3 weeks before the LSA
was approved,with the dastardly medical denied clause. Been denied so no LSA.
Flying with no medical,no insurance,no biennial = cheaper flying ???
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net (Bob Collins)
I felt the same way when I was 35, Paul. 8 years later I had a fainting spell due
to the heart I thought was -- and my doctor told me was -- perfect.
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Paul Folbrecht <pfolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <pfolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
>
> Yeah, that's exactly how the rule ended up being written.
>
> Also, the way the forms are submitted electronically now, once you go in
> to the AME there's no backing out. The FAA will know you were there and
> if you end up having a disqualifying condition, you're SOL.
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| Subject: | Glass Cockpit Options |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
I posted this on the aeroelectronics board, but want to also get
RV-specific opinions.
After months of avionics dreaming it's time to make the hard decisions
regarding the panel of my RV-8A QB. I understand the factors to be
considered in flying an RV IMC, but want to have the capability to do so
if for some reason I end up there - or decide it's a good idea. I'm a
7000+ hour former Navy jet guy so instrument training / experience isn't
a limiting factor. And although $ is a consideration, it isn't the
driver. And I plan to wire it myself.
Two designs are in contention. The first is a dual GRT EFIS / Engine
Monitor display with their internal GPS. Comm/Nav is a Gamin SL30. I
will also have a panel-mounted Gamin 396.
The second consists of dual Dynon 100's, with a Gamin 396, Gamin 106A
and the SL30.
I will have the Gertz heated pitot tube and the Advance Sport AOA,
TruTrak ADI pilot for autopilot / attitude backup, and standard
altimeter, airspeed and VSI backup gages.
So the question for this august group (realizing that some of you may
have very biased opinions): What has been the experience - good and bad
- of the GRT and Dynon products (I realize I have to use the small
screen Dynon experience base)? For those with biased opinions about
"their" product, what do you like? What would you change?
Thanks,
Paul Valovich
Booger
Ridgecrest, CA
661-400-3640
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| Subject: | Re: ND New Alternator kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Richard owns Air-Tech, sell certified and experimental parts. There are many aircraft
parts dealers selling parts and accessories on Ebay. Guld Coast Avionics
sells on Ebay as do many others. You just need to ask for the seller to properly
identify themselves and bid on.
Darrell
Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee
>This is a nice alternator kit available with a ND or Mitsu NEW alternator.
>
> I bought one, Richard sells a nice kit. EBay 4596218435
>
> Worth checking out and the price is right...
What is the deal with Ebay selling of aircraft parts? Maybe I am too
skeptical
but it raises a flag to me.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
You're right, of course - I may well not have "decades", or a single decade - or
even until my next medical, for that matter. But I hope so. :-}
What I'd like to see are the LSA limits expanded to 1750# gross weight, 170 knots
cruise, and day/night IFR. Yeah.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Collins
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
--> RV-List message posted by: bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net (Bob Collins)
I felt the same way when I was 35, Paul. 8 years later I had a fainting spell due
to the heart I thought was -- and my doctor told me was -- perfect.
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| Subject: | Re: Lying on medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Ed Bundy wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
>
>It also amazes me that the potential fine is 8X the fine levied on the city
>of Chicago when an elected official illegally destroyed a federal airport
>under the cloak of darkness.
>
>Ed Bundy
>
>
And I bet "Danglin" Dick Dailey has high hopes for that airport
property..........
Phil in Illinois
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lying on medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <pfolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
I flew into Midway IFR last January. After being turned over to tower
controller asks me, "795, are you familiar with the airport?" with a
tone that suggested to me that he wondered why we decided to land at a
"Big Boy" airport (in a 152). I replied, "Well, yes, we're familar as
we need to be." (dumb question to begin with, really, if I filed there
of course I'm "familiar" with the airport in any sense that really
matters) and then added a somewhat wry "We'd prefer to be landing at
Meigs." He seemed very polite after that. :-} I bet those controllers
really hate Daley for the increased GA traffic at Midway he's caused.
It's the best way into downtown now (b/c of the constant trains).
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>And I bet "Danglin" Dick Dailey has high hopes for that airport
>property..........
>
>Phil in Illinois
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
I see you used the words 'enlightenment' and 'FAA' in the same
sentence...how careless and inexact of you.
Chuck Jensen
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> It would
> be
> nice to have some enlightenment on mental health issues reach the FAA
at
> some point because the current policy is rooted in the days of
"Titticut
> Follies". A good place to start would be continuing the disqualifying
> nature of the drug for a period of time -- 6 months perhaps -- while
> doctors
> evaluate whether there are any side effects in the individual and, if
not,
> so stating them.
>
> The one-size-fits-all method is antiquated and it would be enlightened
if
> the FAA medical department could see fit to extent evaluations based
on
> individual situations, just as it does for virtually every OTHER
aspect of
> a
> pilot's medical.
>
> But I'm not holding my breath.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Glass Cockpit Options |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Two designs are in contention. The first is a dual GRT EFIS / Engine
>Monitor display with their internal GPS. Comm/Nav is a Gamin SL30. I
>will also have a panel-mounted Gamin 396.
>
>
>The second consists of dual Dynon 100's, with a Gamin 396, Gamin 106A
>and the SL30.
As a former USAF dude thanks for your service to the US even if you were
Navy.
Does Option 1 provide a legal CDI functionality?
In both options you appear to not have IFR GPS capability. Is that acceptable?
Note that with both options you may be able to fly a VOR approach with
GPS inputs providing "situational awareness."
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | looking for a nice RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
I'm looking to purchase a nice, clean, and basic RV-4.
I posted this on the Rocket-List a few weeks ago and now
have a couple of contenders, but most aircraft I have
looked at are something under a 6 or 7 out of ten. I'm
looking for a 7 or better; preferably an 8 or better.
Additional preferences include: O-320, FI, CS, no
inverted systems, clean interior, clean paint, basic VFR
or soft IFR. Things outside this are still considered;
my primary consideration is build quality and current
condition. If anyone knows of a -4 like this, I'd love
to talk with them. Please feel free to email me
directly at larry@ncproto.com or call 206-633-3111.
Thanks a ton.
--
Larry E. James
Bellevue, WA
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| Subject: | Re: looking for a nice RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mannan J. Thomason" <mannanj@alltel.net>
Ditto!!!!!!
I have a good friend looking for the same thing, except he wants a 180 hp
with C/S prop, good instrumentation and radio. He's an Airline Pilot and
will be using it to commute to and from Home Base. If you know of one
contact me off line at:
mannanj@alltel.net
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
Subject: RV-List: looking for a nice RV-4
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
>
> I'm looking to purchase a nice, clean, and basic RV-4.
> I posted this on the Rocket-List a few weeks ago and now
> have a couple of contenders, but most aircraft I have
> looked at are something under a 6 or 7 out of ten. I'm
> looking for a 7 or better; preferably an 8 or better.
> Additional preferences include: O-320, FI, CS, no
> inverted systems, clean interior, clean paint, basic VFR
> or soft IFR. Things outside this are still considered;
> my primary consideration is build quality and current
> condition. If anyone knows of a -4 like this, I'd love
> to talk with them. Please feel free to email me
> directly at larry@ncproto.com or call 206-633-3111.
> Thanks a ton.
> --
> Larry E. James
> Bellevue, WA
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
Here is a little tidbit for everyone. Aspertame,
according to my chiropractor, is metabilized by the
human body into formaldahyde and formic acid. Both
are toxic and in high enough doses, fatal. Mind you,
it takes a great deal of Aspertame to generate toxic
levels.
Dave
--- Vincent Osburn <flyby41@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Osburn"
> <flyby41@earthlink.net>
>
>
> I had a friend who flew his RV for about 8
> years and over 360 hours with
> no medical.
> He had a seizure just after completing his
> RV4. He was in a coma for 3
> days. He believed that it was cause by aspartame
> better known as Nutra
> Sweet. He worked outdoors and consumed a lot of diet
> soda. A 6 pack of diet
> Pepsi every day. There is a big class action law
> suit on going about people
> who cannot tolerate aspartame. Few people know of
> this. There are many
> deaths believed to be attributed to aspartame.
> Anyway he avoided all
> substances believed to cause seizures in some people
> including MSG and he
> flew his plane when he felt perfectly well and in
> the mean time tried to
> regain his medical. He did quit flying about 2 years
> before succumbing to a
> fatal seizure which was about 10 years after his
> medical was denied.
>
>
> do not archive
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 12/8/2005 7:41:06 PM
> > Subject: RV-List: Re:Lying on Medical
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> >
> > I wonder what the fine would be for flying with NO
> medical ??
> > Might be worth trying it out. Might accumulate a
> bunch of hours for
> free.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> provided
> www.buildersbooks.com,
> Admin.
> _->
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Lying on Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Here is a little tidbit for everyone. Aspertame,
>according to my chiropractor, is metabilized by the
>human body into formaldahyde and formic acid. Both
>are toxic and in high enough doses, fatal. Mind you,
>it takes a great deal of Aspertame to generate toxic
>levels.
>
>Dave
If you go by mouse studies it may be hundreds of pounds.
All things...except RV flying..in moderation.
Ron Lee
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