RV-List Digest Archive

Sun 12/11/05


Total Messages Posted: 42



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:25 AM - Handheld Comm (Ron Schreck)
     2. 01:41 AM - Tool Kits (b.e.isham)
     3. 04:53 AM - RV-9A Ride (Smitty)
     4. 05:34 AM - Re: Handheld Comm (LarryRobertHelming)
     5. 06:12 AM - Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? (Bob C.)
     6. 06:27 AM - Re: Handheld Comm (Larry Bowen)
     7. 06:45 AM - Re: Avery or Cleavland tools ? (Bob Collins)
     8. 07:14 AM - Re: Avery or Cleavland tools ? (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
     9. 07:30 AM - Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? (Frank Stringham)
    10. 07:39 AM - Re: Handheld Comm (linn walters)
    11. 09:00 AM - Re: Looking for used RV (-6, 7, 9) (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
    12. 09:20 AM - Andair condensation trap (Aart van't Veld)
    13. 09:50 AM - Re: Question for QB Fuse builders... (not processed: message from valid local sender) (Sportypilot)
    14. 10:22 AM - Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    15. 10:27 AM - Digital Tach and Manifold Pressure (Fly n Low)
    16. 11:18 AM - Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? (Charlie Kuss)
    17. 11:27 AM - Re: Tool Kits (Jerry Springer)
    18. 12:30 PM - Re: Handheld Comm (Ron Lee)
    19. 12:30 PM - Re: RV-9A Ride (Ron Lee)
    20. 01:33 PM - Re: Andair condensation trap (Steve Allison)
    21. 01:38 PM - Re: Tool Kits (Terry Watson)
    22. 02:29 PM - RV9 320 w/AFP (Darrell Reiley)
    23. 03:06 PM - Re: Andair condensation trap (Richard McBride)
    24. 03:25 PM - Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?  (Frank Stringham)
    25. 03:30 PM - Re: Tool Kits (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    26. 04:23 PM - Dynon Failure Mode Revisit (Larry Pardue)
    27. 04:23 PM - Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (gerns25@netscape.net)
    28. 05:10 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (William Gill)
    29. 05:18 PM - Re: Glass Cockpit Options (David Leonard)
    30. 05:34 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (LarryRobertHelming)
    31. 05:37 PM - Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit (Darrell Reiley)
    32. 05:40 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (Dan Checkoway)
    33. 06:13 PM - Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit (Sam Buchanan)
    34. 06:26 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (Mark Burns)
    35. 06:41 PM - FACET FUEL PUMP AND OUTSIDE AIR TEMP QUESTIONS (RV4WGH@aol.com)
    36. 06:53 PM - Re: FACET FUEL PUMP AND OUTSIDE AIR TEMP QUESTIONS (Vanremog@aol.com)
    37. 07:05 PM - Motor Mount Wanted (Raymond Wallace)
    38. 07:31 PM - Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    39. 08:03 PM - Re: Tool Kits (gerns25@netscape.net)
    40. 08:40 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (JAMES BOWEN)
    41. 08:53 PM - Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit (Sam Buchanan)
    42. 09:16 PM - Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements (gerns25@netscape.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:25:03 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
    Subject: Handheld Comm
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net> I'd like to find a handheld comm radio that has jacks for the headset phone and mic to use as a backup to my panel mounted radio. Is this a standard feature of most handhelds? Any suggestions? Ron Schreck RV-8 (painting)


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    Time: 01:41:45 AM PST US
    From: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net>
    Subject: Tool Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net> Dan, Before you make a final decision on purchasing your tools check out www.planetools.com as you will find high-quality name-brand tools (Snap-On, Klein, PROTO and many others), excellent customer service and very competitive pricing. Glenna --


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    Time: 04:53:44 AM PST US
    From: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
    Subject: RV-9A Ride
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com> I took my first ride in a RV-9A yesterday. I was totally blown away. My pre-convieced ideas of what it would be like were way off. After flying a C-172 for 18 years, flying this RV-9A was like stepping into a hot sports car aftering driving a chevy station wagon. We were cruising about 175 mph and I actually felt like I was moving over the ground. The RV-9A owner did a stall for me and my first reaction was "That was a stall?". It reminded me of stories I'd heard about Aircoupes, where is the practically no stall. The nose of the RV-9A dipped slightly then started flying again. I've never flown a stick before and I have to say that I LUV IT! I was immediately thinking "This is the way it was meant to be". We took a steep turn to the right and I looked up through the canopy I saw a vista like I've never seen before. I described it to my wife as being like going to the IMAX theater. "HOLY MOLY!". Returning to the airport was like transitioning from a jet to piper cub. Here we were, screaming through the air to the airport and then going straight to slow flight in the pattern. I don't know of any general aviation aircraft that has such a wide variety of speeds and flight characteristics. I have to say that I am now more "movitated" than ever to finish my RV-9A. I think the words "driven" or "obsessed" are more descriptive now. Thanks Clay!!! Ya'll have a goodun! Smitty's RV-9A http://SmittysRV.com


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    Time: 05:34:37 AM PST US
    From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Handheld Comm
    --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> I advise you to post this question to the aero-electric list sponsored by matronics. This question has been answered. I think Bob has a comic book already made showing how to do this. do not archive Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker 77 hours "Please use the information and opinions I express with responsibility, and at your own risk." ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net> > > I'd like to find a handheld comm radio that has jacks for the headset > phone and mic to use as a backup to my panel mounted radio. Is this a > standard feature of most handhelds? Any suggestions? > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 (painting)


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    Time: 06:12:25 AM PST US
    From: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com> FWIW, I was told by an "expert", who sold them all, and whose name would be recognizable on this list, that he had never had a "problem" with ECI Cylinders, and that he couldn't say that about the other's (Superior and Lycoming) . . . ECI seemed to be his product of choice. That was 18 mos ago at OSH. However, I'm sure they are both good products . . . I ended up with a TXM360 (mostly ECI) . . . it seemed to me to be an equivalent engine at a more competitive price. (but I'm not flying yet) Good Luck, Bob Christenen RV-8 Bldr - Se Iowa On 12/10/05, Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > > Looking for input from users of ECI or Superior Cylinders Kits in the past > year or so? I'm about ready to purchase. Any comments? > > Thanks in advance. > > Darrell > > > --------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 06:27:56 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Handheld Comm
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> My several year old Yeasu has an adapter. I assume most/all sold today have it as well. Today, I'd get an Icom. IMO, don't waste your money on something with NAV abilities. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Schreck [mailto:ronschreck@alltel.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:19 AM > To: RV-List > Subject: RV-List: Handheld Comm > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net> > > I'd like to find a handheld comm radio that has jacks for the > headset phone and mic to use as a backup to my panel mounted > radio. Is this a standard feature of most handhelds? Any > suggestions? > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 (painting) > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:45:18 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    Subject: Avery or Cleavland tools ?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> Bob Avery is a great guy. Go to any Van's function, and bob Avery is there. Wait for the door prizes, and, sure enough, Avery Tools always seems to donate gift certificates. Drop an email to Avery Tools if you're having a problem, you'll get a note back from Bob Avery. (and it'll probably tell you to send it back to him, or he'll send you a part). Plus the guy has built at least one RV. He's a good man running a good company as best he can. Do Not archive. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > sears@searnet.com > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:40 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleavland tools ? > > > --> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com> > > I've heard both companies are quite good. I've never bought > anything from Cleavland; but, I've bought quite a bit from > Avery with the good results that others have mentioned.


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    Time: 07:14:48 AM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Avery or Cleavland tools ?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <sears@searnet.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Avery or Cleavland tools ? > --> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com> > > I've heard both companies are quite good. I've never bought anything from > Cleavland; but, I've bought quite a bit from Avery with the good results > that others have mentioned. I've even gotten discounts for being on the > RV-list! However, I did have their clone rivet gun fail because the > trigger > broke. I couldn't see why this should fail so quickly. After all, I'd > only > had it since 1991, built my -6A and helped build a -9A with it, and was > using it on my new -7A when it failed. I sent a note to Avery to see > where > I could get it fixed. They said they'd give it a try. I jokingly asked > if > the warranty was still good, after explaining how little I'd used it. :-) > Of course, that got a laugh. When the gun was returned, the note from Bob > in the package said that the warranty ran out one day after he fixed it. > Yep, he fixed that 15 year old gun for free. Now, that is the kind of > service I look for in a company. Shoot, I've seen plans errors, parts > errors, etc. from Van's. I'm still building their airplanes. :-) Now, > Aircraft Spruce is my burr under the saddle. I won't do business with > those > folks; and, many swear by them. Each of us has his favorites. That works > for me. That makes for more to shop from. > > Jim Sears in KY > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 07:30:55 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com> Darrell Give Robbie Attaway at www.attawayair.com a call. He has given me great info and help in regards to my engine decision. Frank @ SGU and SLC >From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? >Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:42:54 -0800 (PST) > >--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > >Looking for input from users of ECI or Superior Cylinders Kits in the past >year or so? I'm about ready to purchase. Any comments? > > Thanks in advance. > > Darrell > > >--------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 07:39:07 AM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Handheld Comm
    --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> Ron Schreck wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net> > >I'd like to find a handheld comm radio that has jacks for the headset phone and mic to use as a backup to my panel mounted radio. Is this a standard feature of most handhelds? Any suggestions? > I think you'll find that the handhelds either come with or are available for extra $$ a cord set that plugs into the radio and has jacks for headset/mic. The jacks in the radio are small ..... and sometimes non-standard size .....so it's best to look at what your friends have or go to a fly-in where distributors are so you can look them over (and possibly use it) before you commit to a purchase. Linn do not archive > >Ron Schreck >RV-8 (painting) > > > > --


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    Time: 09:00:02 AM PST US
    From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
    Subject: Re: Looking for used RV (-6, 7, 9)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com> take a look at this link http://www.buildersbooks.com/rv_6a_for_sale.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <DvdBock@aol.com> Subject: RV-List: Looking for used RV (-6, 7, 9) > --> RV-List message posted by: DvdBock@aol.com > > Have a pilot friend who is wanting to buy a good side-by-side RV in So Cal > or Southwestern US. Wants low time or in final build. Email me rtn > off-list please. Do not archive. > Dave Bockelman > F1 Rocket > > >


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    Time: 09:20:26 AM PST US
    From: "Aart van't Veld" <avtveld@tiscali.nl>
    Subject: Andair condensation trap
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Aart van't Veld" <avtveld@tiscali.nl> Have any of you been using the Andair CT850 condensation trap yet? Andair states that it is used to extract the water from the oil when used in conjunction with the Andair Oil / Air Separator. I haven't got the faintest idea how this thing works and if it is beneficial to the "normal" oil-air separator setup. Any ideas? Thanks, Aart RV7 finish <http://websites.expercraft.com/PHVII> http://websites.expercraft.com/PHVII


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    Time: 09:50:32 AM PST US
    From: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Question for QB Fuse builders... (not processed: message
    from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com> tipup or slider ? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> > > When you get the QB fuse the F-721B Aft Canopy Deck is already riveted the > whole length of the longerons with final AN426AD3 rivets > (DWG-25 and DWG-18) and the F-705G angle brackets are not rivted on yet > (DWG-20). How are you supposed to rivet the F-705G to the F- > 705 Bulkhead assembly with the F-721B in place? I removed the F-757 which > was pop riveted in place so I could get better access, but the > F-721B flange is still in the way. > > Hopefully someone will know what I am talking about as this has me > stumped... > > - Matt > > >


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    Time: 10:22:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> He is also one of ECI's primary resellers. Nothing wrong with it but expect him to be biased. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Stringham Subject: RE: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" --> <fstringham@hotmail.com> Darrell Give Robbie Attaway at www.attawayair.com a call. He has given me great info and help in regards to my engine decision. Frank @ SGU and SLC >From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? >Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:42:54 -0800 (PST) > >--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley >--> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > >Looking for input from users of ECI or Superior Cylinders Kits in the >past year or so? I'm about ready to purchase. Any comments? > > Thanks in advance. > > Darrell > > >--------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 10:27:08 AM PST US
    From: "Fly n Low" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
    Subject: Digital Tach and Manifold Pressure
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Fly n Low" <flynlow@usaviator.net> Hello Group; I am planning and starting to build my panel. I am using old fashioned instruments, because I already have most of them and money is an object here. I am interested in a Digital Tach and a Digital Manifold Pressure. Can someone point me in the right direction. Keeping in mind that money is an object. Thanks Bud Silvers RV-8 Colorado Springs, CO


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    Time: 11:18:50 AM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> Darrell, I've spoken with several well known engine builders about this. The short version is that ECI's cylinders are better for aircraft which are not flown a lot. The barrel surface treatment they use resists rust better than Superior or Lycoming. Superior markets 2 versions of it's Millennium cylinders. The Millennium II cylinders use investment cast heads. The others use sand cast heads. Investment casting is much stronger and more resistant to cracking. It's like comparing the aluminum castings from a 1960s vintage Harley Davidson to a modern Honda. The new Japanese bikes use investment casting. The old HDs and Triumphs used sand casting. These Millennium II heads have ports and combustion chambers that are CNC machined, so the ports and combustion chambers volumes do not vary in size. This means that you'll get more even power, CHTs and EGTs using these cylinders. The investment cast heads also resist cracking better. For an owner more concerned with high performance and/or extended cylinder life, the Superior Millennium II is a great choice. (providing you fly regularly) Charlie Kuss >On 12/10/05, Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > > > > Looking for input from users of ECI or Superior Cylinders Kits in the past > > year or so? I'm about ready to purchase. Any comments? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Darrell > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:27:09 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net> b.e.isham wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net> > >Dan, >Before you make a final decision on purchasing your tools check out >www.planetools.com as you will find high-quality name-brand tools (Snap-On, >Klein, PROTO and many others), excellent customer service and very >competitive pricing. >Glenna > > > Would that be because you sell them :-) do not archive


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    Time: 12:30:10 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: Handheld Comm
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> >I'd like to find a handheld comm radio that has jacks for the headset >phone and mic to use as a backup to my panel mounted radio. Is this a >standard feature of most handhelds? Any suggestions? I have an ICOM something. I bought two accessories. One provides a push to talk switch and jack for my headset. Then another allows me to connect the ICOM antenna port to another switch that uses my normal antenna. I will provide part numbers if I can. So what you want is possible. Ron Lee


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    Time: 12:30:46 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-9A Ride
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> >I took my first ride in a RV-9A yesterday. I was totally blown away. Well duh. If this was your first ride in an RV consider your reaction normal. They are great airplanes. Ron Lee do not archive


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    Time: 01:33:28 PM PST US
    From: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org>
    Subject: Re: Andair condensation trap
    --> RV-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org> Check the Andair web site: http://www.andair.co.uk There is a brief description of the system here: http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html Aart van't Veld wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Aart van't Veld" <avtveld@tiscali.nl> > > Have any of you been using the Andair CT850 condensation trap yet? > > Andair states that it is used to extract the water from the oil when used in > conjunction with the Andair Oil / Air Separator. I haven't got the faintest > idea how this thing works and if it is beneficial to the "normal" oil-air > separator setup. Any ideas?


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    Time: 01:38:40 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Tool Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Good call, Jerry. I would consider the fact that they gave themselves a positive review on the RV list without divulging the conflict of interest good reason to buy elsewhere. I don't mind a little self-promotion now and then, as long as we hear the whole story. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Tool Kits --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net> b.e.isham wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net> > >Dan, >Before you make a final decision on purchasing your tools check out >www.planetools.com as you will find high-quality name-brand tools (Snap-On, >Klein, PROTO and many others), excellent customer service and very >competitive pricing. >Glenna > > > Would that be because you sell them :-) do not archive


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    Time: 02:29:44 PM PST US
    From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RV9 320 w/AFP
    --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> If you flying an RV9 with a 320 and AFP, I would like to ask a few questions please... Darrell ---------------------------------


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    Time: 03:06:44 PM PST US
    From: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Andair condensation trap
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com> If anyone is interested, I have a brand new Andair oil air separator and condensation trap for sale. Both items are still in the box and have never been opened. I will sell both, as a set, for $300.00 which is about $35.00 less than Aircraft Spruce. I'll also pick up shipping to the lower 48. Rick McBride rickrv8@msn.com<mailto:rickrv8@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Allison<mailto:stevea@svpal.org> To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Andair condensation trap --> RV-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org<mailto:stevea@svpal.org>> Check the Andair web site: http://www.andair.co.uk<http://www.andair.co.uk/> There is a brief description of the system here: http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html<http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html> Aart van't Veld wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Aart van't Veld" <avtveld@tiscali.nl<mailto:avtveld@tiscali.nl>> > > Have any of you been using the Andair CT850 condensation trap yet? > > Andair states that it is used to extract the water from the oil when used in > conjunction with the Andair Oil / Air Separator. I haven't got the faintest > idea how this thing works and if it is beneficial to the "normal" oil-air > separator setup. Any ideas?


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    Time: 03:25:01 PM PST US
    From: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com> Just a short note on Robbie / ECi biased .....I found him very open and knowledgeable about the lycosaurse....in general and about the different companies that provide X-360 engines to we builders. If he is biased it is probably because the ECI engine has been so great in his own RV 6...... Now for my biased FWIW position........I am sure gald I am building a plane that I can use 21 century technology in an old age technology engine. Frank SGU and SLC >From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:21:24 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" ><rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > He is also one of ECI's primary resellers. Nothing wrong with it but >expect him to be biased. > >Michael Sausen >-10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads >Do not archive > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Stringham >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" >--> <fstringham@hotmail.com> > >Darrell > >Give Robbie Attaway at www.attawayair.com a call. He has given me great >info and help in regards to my engine decision. > >Frank @ SGU and SLC > > > >From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com > >To: RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: RV-List: Cylinder Kits? Which to buy...? > >Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:42:54 -0800 (PST) > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley > >--> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > > > >Looking for input from users of ECI or Superior Cylinders Kits in the > >past year or so? I'm about ready to purchase. Any comments? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Darrell > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Tool Kits
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> I have bought stuff from Planetools and found them to be quality in service and tools with a good price. No other association with them. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson Subject: RE: RV-List: Tool Kits --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Good call, Jerry. I would consider the fact that they gave themselves a positive review on the RV list without divulging the conflict of interest good reason to buy elsewhere. I don't mind a little self-promotion now and then, as long as we hear the whole story. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Tool Kits --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net> b.e.isham wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net> > >Dan, >Before you make a final decision on purchasing your tools check out >www.planetools.com as you will find high-quality name-brand tools >(Snap-On, Klein, PROTO and many others), excellent customer service and >very competitive pricing. >Glenna > > Would that be because you sell them :-) do not archive


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    Time: 04:23:52 PM PST US
    From: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
    Subject: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> Greetings: A few weeks ago I reported on a failure I had on my Dynon D-10A. The altitude sensor had failed, according to Dynon, and it was showing incorrect altitude, airspeed, ROC as well as an incorrect and drifting attitude indication. Dynon was responsive and fast in repairing the unit and returning it to me. Today was my third flight since reinstalling the unit and the mission was to calibrate the heading indicator, as that calibration had been lost during the repair service. When I started up I noticed that the rate of turn indicator was showing maximum deflection to the right and cycling the power on and off did not change it. My thought was that this was annoying as that indicator is of great use during the ground calibration portion. As soon as I was in flight I noticed that the attitude indicator was not functioning correctly. It was drifting into different positions with no relationship to actual attitude. This appears to be a different failure than before as altitude and airspeed are fine this time. I hope people understand why I am reporting these problems. I wish nothing but the best for Dynon, but when I bought mine I may not have had a realistic attitude about reliability and failure modes. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net


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    Time: 04:23:54 PM PST US
    From: gerns25@netscape.net
    Subject: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear spar web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the question...The center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install the rudder, I am only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center rod end bearing is off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else experienced this? I could just turn the center bearing out a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of threads holding it in. Does anyone know if the measurements on the plans are correct or do they need to be modified. By the way, the movement in the rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any help? Thanks, Darin Hawkes N619PB (reserved) RV7 (Empennage almost complete) Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com


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    Time: 05:10:50 PM PST US
    From: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
    Subject: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net> Darin, Double check your measurements. I used a brass rod with both ends sharpened to a point along the center axis and long enough to go through all three rod end bearings. This allows one to obtain very accurate measurements when the point is located as close as possible to the rod end bearing. The brass rods (3/16" diameter and other sizes) are available at Home Depot and True Value Hardware stores. The dimensions you stated are correct. Bill RV-7 Finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gerns25@netscape.net Subject: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear spar web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the question...The center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install the rudder, I am only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center rod end bearing is off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else experienced this? I could just turn the center bearing out a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of threads holding it in. Does anyone know if the measurements on the plans are correct or do they need to be modified. By the way, the movement in the rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any help? Thanks, Darin Hawkes N619PB (reserved) RV7 (Empennage almost complete) Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com


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    Time: 05:18:05 PM PST US
    From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Glass Cockpit Options
    --> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com> Paul, Have you looked at the Blumountain stuff? www.bluemountainavionics.com They are similar to what you mention only it also provides an HSI display that connects digitally to your SL-30, as well as a moving map. I have the G3/lite and love it. The brightness of the display is second to none - not even the units selling for $50k. Two G3 lites would make a nice IFR panel with a backup for everything for a very low price. The E1 would add the benefit of unparalleled 3-D terrain mapping. Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 On 12/9/05, Valovich, Paul <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> > > I posted this on the aeroelectronics board, but want to also get > RV-specific opinions. > > > After months of avionics dreaming it's time to make the hard decisions > regarding the panel of my RV-8A QB. I understand the factors to be > considered in flying an RV IMC, but want to have the capability to do so > if for some reason I end up there - or decide it's a good idea. I'm a > 7000+ hour former Navy jet guy so instrument training / experience isn't > a limiting factor. And although $ is a consideration, it isn't the > driver. And I plan to wire it myself. > > > Two designs are in contention. The first is a dual GRT EFIS / Engine > Monitor display with their internal GPS. Comm/Nav is a Gamin SL30. I > will also have a panel-mounted Gamin 396. > > > The second consists of dual Dynon 100's, with a Gamin 396, Gamin 106A > and the SL30. > > > I will have the Gertz heated pitot tube and the Advance Sport AOA, > TruTrak ADI pilot for autopilot / attitude backup, and standard > altimeter, airspeed and VSI backup gages. > > > So the question for this august group (realizing that some of you may > have very biased opinions): What has been the experience - good and bad > - of the GRT and Dynon products (I realize I have to use the small > screen Dynon experience base)? For those with biased opinions about > "their" product, what do you like? What would you change? > > > Thanks, > > Paul Valovich > > Booger > > Ridgecrest, CA > > 661-400-3640 > > -- Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html


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    Time: 05:34:34 PM PST US
    From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> Darin, I did not experience your problem when fitting my RV7 rudder to VS. Keep in mind, I did this portion of the kit about 24 months ago. Mine fit within a 16th of an inch as I seem to remember (not perfect per plans in other words). I suggest you talk with Vans foremost. Consider you look at where you are to insure the gap seems to be uniform top to bottom and adjust it as needed accordingly. I would not be too concerned about it right now. You will need to do some fitting for sure on the bottom of the rudder for the fiberglass fairing/housing that holds the tail light when you fit that to the fuselage. You have begun the process and what an experience you have before you and the flights -- oh yes, the flights......... Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker 77 hours "Please use the information and opinions I express with responsibility, and at your own risk." ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net > > I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For > reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - > bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear > spar web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the > question...The center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install > the rudder, I am only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center > rod end bearing is off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else > experienced this? I could just turn the center bearing out a bit but then > I don't have a whole lot of threads holding it in. Does anyone know if > the measurements on the plans are correct or do they need to be modified. > By the way, the movement in the rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom > and top bolts in place. Any help? Thanks, > > Darin Hawkes > N619PB (reserved) > RV7 (Empennage almost complete)


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    Time: 05:37:39 PM PST US
    From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> I think this calls for a 100% customer satisfaction replacement unit...! Darrell Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue Greetings: A few weeks ago I reported on a failure I had on my Dynon D-10A. The altitude sensor had failed, according to Dynon, and it was showing incorrect altitude, airspeed, ROC as well as an incorrect and drifting attitude indication. Dynon was responsive and fast in repairing the unit and returning it to me. Today was my third flight since reinstalling the unit and the mission was to calibrate the heading indicator, as that calibration had been lost during the repair service. When I started up I noticed that the rate of turn indicator was showing maximum deflection to the right and cycling the power on and off did not change it. My thought was that this was annoying as that indicator is of great use during the ground calibration portion. As soon as I was in flight I noticed that the attitude indicator was not functioning correctly. It was drifting into different positions with no relationship to actual attitude. This appears to be a different failure than before as altitude and airspeed are fine this time. I hope people understand why I am reporting these problems. I wish nothing but the best for Dynon, but when I bought mine I may not have had a realistic attitude about reliability and failure modes. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:40:59 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> You can also use dental floss, fishing line, etc. Stretch the string through the center of the holes in the rod end bearings and make sure they're all aligned. Do the same with the holes in the hinge brackets on the VS. It's unlikely the hinge brackets would be misaligned on a VS that was built from match-drilled stuff. Those "computer generated" numbers on the plans are just a starting point in my opinion. Make it work! Split the difference with the ends and the middle one, or whatever. As long as the rudder moves freely and doesn't rub the VS skin edges before hitting the stops, and as long as the counterweight arm parallels the top of the VS, then you're good to go imho. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (721 hours) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements > --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net> > > Darin, > > Double check your measurements. I used a brass rod with both ends > sharpened to a point along the center axis and long enough to go through > all three rod end bearings. This allows one to obtain very accurate > measurements when the point is located as close as possible to the rod > end bearing. The brass rods (3/16" diameter and other sizes) are > available at Home Depot and True Value Hardware stores. The dimensions > you stated are correct. > > Bill > RV-7 Finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > gerns25@netscape.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements > > --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net > > I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For > reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 > - bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear > spar web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the > question...The center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I > install the rudder, I am only able to get the bottom and top bolt > in...the center rod end bearing is off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has > anyone else experienced this? I could just turn the center bearing out > a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of threads holding it in. Does > anyone know if the measurements on the plans are correct or do they need > to be modified. By the way, the movement in the rudder looks to be spot > on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any help? Thanks, > > Darin Hawkes > N619PB (reserved) > RV7 (Empennage almost complete) > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > http://mail.netscape.com > > >


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    Time: 06:13:54 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Darrell Reiley wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > > I think this calls for a 100% customer satisfaction replacement unit...! > > Darrell And I suspect that is precisely what will happen.......provided Larry hasn't totally burned all bridges by publishing this issue on a public forum before giving Dynon a chance to repair/replace his obviously defective EFIS... Sam Buchanan ========================= > > Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <snip> > I hope people understand why I am reporting these problems. I wish > nothing but the best for Dynon, but when I bought mine I may not have > had a realistic attitude about reliability and failure modes. > > Larry Pardue


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    Time: 06:26:35 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net>
    Subject: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net> Darin, Be sure you are measuring to the spar web. Remember the doubler is on the rod end side of the web on the lower one. You have to do some math on that one. Mark N781CM (reserved) RV-7A Wings almost done. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gerns25@netscape.net Subject: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear spar web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the question...The center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install the rudder, I am only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center rod end bearing is off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else experienced this? I could just turn the center bearing out a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of threads holding it in. Does anyone know if the measurements on the plans are correct or do they need to be modified. By the way, the movement in the rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any help? Thanks, Darin Hawkes N619PB (reserved) RV7 (Empennage almost complete) Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com


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    Time: 06:41:29 PM PST US
    From: RV4WGH@aol.com
    Subject: FACET FUEL PUMP AND OUTSIDE AIR TEMP QUESTIONS
    --> RV-List message posted by: RV4WGH@aol.com I am in the finishing kit stages of an RV-4 and have a couple of questions: 1) Facet fuel pump instructions say to mount the pump on a 45 degree angle. Knowing this pump is an automotive pump, is this also important in an airplane? Seems like the pump will be at a 45 degree angle most of the time in a tail dragger, at least for take-off. I had planned to mount it in a manner that would make it level in normal flight. 2) Where is the suggested mounting location for the outside air temp sensor? Thanks for any suggestions. Wally Hunt Rockford, IL RV-4 Finishing kit


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    Time: 06:53:26 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FACET FUEL PUMP AND OUTSIDE AIR TEMP QUESTIONS
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 12/11/2005 6:42:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, RV4WGH@aol.com writes: 1) Facet fuel pump instructions say to mount the pump on a 45 degree angle. Knowing this pump is an automotive pump, is this also important in an airplane? Seems like the pump will be at a 45 degree angle most of the time in a tail dragger, at least for take-off. I had planned to mount it in a manner that would make it level in normal flight. 2) Where is the suggested mounting location for the outside air temp sensor? ========================================= 1. My understanding is that this is an effort to reduce wear on the reciprocating plunger, as it is able to rotate easier in the barrel if its axis is closer to vertical during normal use. 2. As far from the fuselage as possible. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 770hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)


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    Time: 07:05:06 PM PST US
    From: Raymond Wallace <rawmailman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Motor Mount Wanted
    --> RV-List message posted by: Raymond Wallace <rawmailman@yahoo.com> I am looking for a motor mount for a lycoming 0-320 to be used as an engine test stand. Does not have to be from any specific aircraft, just in rasonable condition. Do not archive. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:31:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> This should have nothing to do with "burned bridges" if Dynon is a respectable company and the unit is under warranty. Last thing I want to hear about a vendor is that it isn't stranding behind their product because someone reported a problem with it in a public forum. Dynon hasn't given that impression so far and I wouldn't expect them to act in such an unprofessional way. That type of mentality reminds me of new car dealerships and their idea of customer service. They beat you senseless with the "tell us personally if there is a problem but always give us top marks in the corporate survey". Sure they fix the problem but not the root cause because no one ever tells their corporate. Sorry to seem a little ticked but it irritates the hell out of me when someone suggests you have to hide problems with a product in order to get the proper support. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Darrell Reiley wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> > > I think this calls for a 100% customer satisfaction replacement unit...! > > Darrell And I suspect that is precisely what will happen.......provided Larry hasn't totally burned all bridges by publishing this issue on a public forum before giving Dynon a chance to repair/replace his obviously defective EFIS... Sam Buchanan > > Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <snip> > I hope people understand why I am reporting these problems. I wish > nothing but the best for Dynon, but when I bought mine I may not have > had a realistic attitude about reliability and failure modes. > > Larry Pardue


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    Time: 08:03:33 PM PST US
    From: gerns25@netscape.net
    Subject: Re: Tool Kits
    --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net I bought my tools from planetools.com and have nothing but excellent comments for their service and tools. Sure I don't have a ton of experience using other tools but their's are as quality as they come. Besides, for the price you would pay for the standard RV tool kit from Avery or Cleveland, I got a pnuematic squeezer (US Clone similiar to the 214 style Chicago) and best of all, the DRDT-2 dimpler. I have supplemented my kit with the vise grip dimplers that Avery sells and someday, I plan to add the "main squeeze" hand squeezer by Cleveland, but don't discount Isham's (planetools.com), they are great. I thought I had a problem with my cleco's so I called Shaun and discussed the problem with him, I also asked about a keyless chuck for my drill. Well, to make a long story short, I got an extra pack of cleco's to try and a keyless chuck for nothing! I hadn't even asked for the clecos and I fully expected to pay for the chuck but they did not charge me. By the way, my cl ecos were not the problem (these are US made clecos by Cleco-loc, I believe they were one of the original cleco makers), I was using the speed deburring tool to aggresively. I would at least take a look at there stuff and give them a call...if they still have the dimpler deal going, this tool is worth its weight in gold! Bottom line...Avery and Cleveland have excellent stuff and you will probably buy items from both, but for the full tool kit...the price, service and quality of tools planetools.com sells can't be beat IMHO! Darin RV7 N619PB -----Original Message----- From: Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Tool Kits --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Good call, Jerry. I would consider the fact that they gave themselves a positive review on the RV list without divulging the conflict of interest good reason to buy elsewhere. I don't mind a little self-promotion now and then, as long as we hear the whole story. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Tool Kits --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net> b.e.isham wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "b.e.isham" <b.e.isham@cox.net> > >Dan, >Before you make a final decision on purchasing your tools check out >www.planetools.com as you will find high-quality name-brand tools (Snap-On, >Klein, PROTO and many others), excellent customer service and very >competitive pricing. >Glenna > > > Would that be because you sell them :-) do not archive Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com


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    Time: 08:40:40 PM PST US
    From: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com> Darin, I had to install the rudder bolts top middle bottom, in that order. Otherwise the middle bolt would'nt go in. I did use Van's measurements for the rudder, and they worked as I said above. The elevator measurements had to be massaged a little, but not much. Make sure you got the correct rod end. good luck, Jim Bowen RV-8 QB Sumner, Wa. >From: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:27:34 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net> > >Darin, >Be sure you are measuring to the spar web. >Remember the doubler is on the rod end side of the web on the lower one. >You have to do some math on that one. > >Mark >N781CM (reserved) >RV-7A Wings almost done. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >gerns25@netscape.net >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements > >--> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net > >I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For >reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - >bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear spar >web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the question...The >center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install the rudder, I >am >only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center rod end bearing is >off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else experienced this? I >could >just turn the center bearing out a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of >threads holding it in. Does anyone know if the measurements on the plans >are correct or do they need to be modified. By the way, the movement in >the >rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any >help? Thanks, > >Darin Hawkes >N619PB (reserved) >RV7 (Empennage almost complete) >Try the New Netscape Mail Today! >Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List >http://mail.netscape.com > >


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    Time: 08:53:31 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Dynon Failure Mode Revisit
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> <snip> > Sorry to seem a little ticked but it irritates the hell out of me > when someone suggests you have to hide problems with a product in > order to get the proper support. > > Michael Sausen -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads Do not archive Whoa here.......let's come up for air............ :-) Nobody suggested hiding problems in order to get customer service. I am a Dynon owner who has considerable experience with working issues with their product (I was heavily involved with Dynon in chasing down the EMI problems they had with the D-10 a couple years ago). My experience with Dynon convinced me that they are a quality company that is very serious about supporting their fine products. I have also had several opportunities to work with other vendors as they sorted out issues with their product. And a careful reading of my web site will show no reluctance on my part to criticize a product when I felt it justified. But that criticism was never publicly rendered until every opportunity had been offered to the vendor to get things sorted out. I think it would have been more courteous to Dynon if Larry had given them a chance to rectify this latest problem with their unit before airing this service difficulty on a very public forum. Observers of the RV community are well aware that Larry's Dynon problems, while discouraging to him, are certainly not representative of the excellent field history the Dynon EFII have established. But......I realize my idea of consideration to a company isn't shared by all consumers. Guess that might be enough to get some folks irritated. :-) Sam Buchanan http://thervjournal.com ======================= > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Sam Buchanan > To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon Failure Mode > Revisit > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > Darrell Reiley wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley >> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> >> >> I think this calls for a 100% customer satisfaction replacement >> unit...! >> >> Darrell > > > > And I suspect that is precisely what will happen.......provided Larry > hasn't totally burned all bridges by publishing this issue on a > public forum before giving Dynon a chance to repair/replace his > obviously defective EFIS... > > Sam Buchanan > > > >> Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote: --> RV-List message >> posted by: Larry Pardue > > <snip> > >> I hope people understand why I am reporting these problems. I wish >> nothing but the best for Dynon, but when I bought mine I may not >> have had a realistic attitude about reliability and failure modes. >> >> Larry Pardue


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    Time: 09:16:15 PM PST US
    From: gerns25@netscape.net
    Subject: Re: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements
    --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net I got it figured out thanks to all you guys. I was omitting the fact that the bottom nutplate is riveted to the aft side of the rear spar...well, all measurements are given from the web of the rear spar. I have adjusted it and it is much better, will still need a tiny bit of tweeking, half turn here half turn there, but at least it is in the ballpark now. Thanks to all who replied! Darin RV7 N619PB Reserved -----Original Message----- From: JAMES BOWEN <jabowenjr@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements --> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com> Darin, I had to install the rudder bolts top middle bottom, in that order. Otherwise the middle bolt would'nt go in. I did use Van's measurements for the rudder, and they worked as I said above. The elevator measurements had to be massaged a little, but not much. Make sure you got the correct rod end. good luck, Jim Bowen RV-8 QB Sumner, Wa. >From: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:27:34 -0600 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Burns" <burnsm@cox.net> > >Darin, >Be sure you are measuring to the spar web. >Remember the doubler is on the rod end side of the web on the lower one. >You have to do some math on that one. > >Mark >N781CM (reserved) >RV-7A Wings almost done. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >gerns25@netscape.net >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Rudder Hinge Bolt Measurements > >--> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net > >I am installing my Rudder to check the measurements as per plan. For >reference, the measurements are: 51/64 - top, 59/64 - Center and 1 1/16 - >bottom. These are the measurements per plan as measured from the rear spar >web to the center of the rod end bearing thru hole. Now the question...The >center measurement seems to be off on mine. When I install the rudder, I >am >only able to get the bottom and top bolt in...the center rod end bearing is >off by a good 3/16" (too short). Has anyone else experienced this? I >could >just turn the center bearing out a bit but then I don't have a whole lot of >threads holding it in. Does anyone know if the measurements on the plans >are correct or do they need to be modified. By the way, the movement in >the >rudder looks to be spot on with the bottom and top bolts in place. Any >help? Thanks, > >Darin Hawkes >N619PB (reserved) >RV7 (Empennage almost complete) >Try the New Netscape Mail Today! >Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List >http://mail.netscape.com > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com




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