Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:31 AM - Re: Vne and Control Flutter (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
2. 05:01 AM - Re: Rv's in Fayettville/Drake (AYRES, JIMMY L)
3. 05:44 AM - Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Condon, Philip M.)
4. 05:55 AM - Kens report on exceeding VNE at Alt. (Steve Whittman's crash) (Condon, Philip M.)
5. 06:34 AM - Re: RV-8 RC Model (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
6. 06:37 AM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Mickey Coggins)
7. 06:53 AM - Re:GX-60 Jeppesen Skybound Service (Duane Bentley)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 09:05 AM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Tedd McHenry)
10. 09:21 AM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (David Leonard)
11. 10:32 AM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Tracy Crook)
12. 10:47 AM - AoA (Steve Sampson)
13. 10:49 AM - Novelty Aviation Table Lamp (Dave Nellis)
14. 11:04 AM - BLUE MOUNTAIN AUTOPILOT INSTALLATION (Bruno)
15. 11:51 AM - Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp (chaztuna@adelphia.net)
16. 11:59 AM - Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp (Fly n Low)
17. 12:42 PM - AOA sensor mounting question (RKAlex123@aol.com)
18. 12:54 PM - Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp (Dave Nellis)
19. 01:13 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
20. 01:15 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (Richard Tasker)
21. 02:16 PM - Re: Cardiovascular problem (bertrv6@highstream.net)
22. 02:22 PM - Daves Lamp on Ebay (Fly n Low)
23. 02:30 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (Rick Galati)
24. 04:37 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (Greg@itmack)
25. 05:00 PM - Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Martin Hone)
26. 05:04 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (John Huft)
27. 05:17 PM - Re: AOA sensor mounting question (Larry Bowen)
28. 05:45 PM - Re: Cardiovascular problem (Dan Beadle)
29. 08:38 PM - Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp (Dave Nellis)
30. 10:43 PM - Re: Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF (Tedd McHenry)
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| Subject: | Vne and Control Flutter |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I have run the 8 to 253mphTAS and slap stick test. Every thing hung on.
Best,
Mike
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Vanremog@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Vne and Control Flutter
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:52:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
wdleonard@gmail.com writes:
I suggest that anyone who feels the need to rage around at 250mph TAS
should
either fly a different airframe better suited to the mission, or do the
flutter testing at a TAS 10% higher than where he plans to set as a TAS
limit. (and let me know what you find - because I am too chicken to do
it
================================================
During a Van's dinner conversation with Martin Hollman at OSH some years
back, he claimed that he had offered to do a flutter analysis of the RV
series
aircraft some years before and that Van's had turned him down. I don't
know
whether this actually occurred and, if true, what their reasoning might
have
been. I am also aware that Martin has a reputation for having a
significant
BS quotient, but it seems to me that he might know a little something
about
this subject. I sometimes wish that at least some degree of computer
analysis
and ground excitation testing had been done and published. I take
comfort in
the fact that my plane will rarely get in the region that this will be
a
problem and will leave Dave Anders and the other racers to test the
upper
boundary.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 771hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Rv's in Fayettville/Drake |
--> RV-List message posted by: "AYRES, JIMMY L" <JAYRES@entergy.com>
The folks at Trutrak at Springdale airport have a RV10 that is nearing completion.
Very nice people also.
Jimmy Ayres
-----Original Message-----
From: charles heathco [mailto:cheathco@junct.com]
Subject: RV-List: Rv's in Fayettville/Drake
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
anybody know what RV's might be in Fyetv Ark ? I seem to remember at least one
is there. Charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
Am I right in the math ? With your new reduction unit, your test run
from your list at (prop rpm) of 2700 would be almost 7000 RPM at the
engine (crank RPM) ??? Even at 2300 prop rpm that's almost 5900 engine
RPM. Call me old fashion, but isn't this a little fast to spin the
engine for such a long period of time? On my stick shift Saab or wife's
Subaru we shift at 2400 to 3400 rpm and cruse at 1900 to 2400 RPM (80
MPH on I-95). I can't even imagine spinning a Subaru, or any other
engine at 7000 RPM. ( It's a gas engine not a electric engine )
------------------------------
Subject: [subaruaircraft] H-6 Performance Numbers
On my flight to FL from OR in Sept, I recorded these performance
numbers for the
H6. The most efficient RPM is between 2200 and 2300 prop rpm depending
on the
cruise altitude. Although I did not get a complet set of numbers, these
will
give some idea of the performance that can be expected.
Alt OAT Rpm MAP F/F KTAS
7.5 73 2220 22.4 6.9 144
7.5 77 2700 22.1 8.5 165
9.5 67 2200 20.7 5.9 140
9.5 62 2300 20.4 6.2 144
9.5 63 2700 20.1 7.8 160
These numbers where with the 3rd lower radiator and oil cooler mounted
just forward
of the firewall. They are also with the MT prop and the dual SuperTrap
mufflers.
The new 2.56 reduction unit may change these numbers. We will see.
Tom Moore
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| Subject: | Kens report on exceeding VNE at Alt. (Steve Whittman's crash) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
I recall the NTSB and EAA stated that the primary cause of Steve's
crash was a improper joint/overlap of the LE wing fabric that unraveled
or lifted and pealed back the seam/overlap of fabric on the LE in
flight. Your comments match the findings of the ABS (American Bonanza
Society) on stab/elevator failures and subsequent wing and fuse.
Failure........
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ime: 07:58:51 AM PST US
From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Kens report on exceeding VNE at Alt.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 7:40:48 2005-12-26 "Olen Goodwin" <ogoodwin@comcast.net> wrote:
> Let me be more clear: I know many factors enter into Vne. My
> question is: does anyone know the most limiting factor for the RV in
> question? Possibly the flutter speed is high enough that it doesn't
> even enter into this particular situation. Possibly not.
I recall being taught in university that the most common failure due to
overspeed is the horizontal stabilizer or elevator, followed shortly by
the
wings.
As your (indicated :) airspeed increases, the nose-down pitching moment
on
the wing also increases... Which requires an increase in the down-force
generated by the horizontal stab/elevator to balance it. It's
apparently
not uncommon for either the elevator or the whole horizontal stab to
fail
as someone tries to pull out of an oversped dive. When that happens,
without that downforce on the tail the plane will instantly pitch nose
down, which at that high speed means a failure of the wings due to
sudden,
high, negative G.
My recollection is that this was the failure mode of Steve Whittman's
tailwind when he died, but my memory could be fuzzy about that.
-Rob
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--> RV-List message posted by:
I have been after them to put an RV8 on the market but it seems that they
have not perceived enough demand to do so. I'd buy an RV8 RC right away if
available.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Nellis
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 RC Model
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
http://www.rchomebuilts.com/
This company has a RV-6/6A model. They are well built
almost ready to fly models. I did a little R and D on
their Velocity kit that a friend of mine had for beta
testing.
Dave
--- Ken Brooks <kenbrooks@charter.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Brooks"
> <kenbrooks@charter.net>
>
> A friend who does RC modeling asked if I knew of any
> commercially available
> RV-8 model kits. He'd like to build one, but has
> only found RV-4 kits
> available. Anyone know of any RV-8 kits out there?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ken Brooks
> RV-8QB N1903P in progress
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
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> Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> ... On my stick shift Saab or wife's
> Subaru we shift at 2400 to 3400 rpm and cruse at 1900 to 2400 RPM (80
> MPH on I-95). I can't even imagine spinning a Subaru, or any other
> engine at 7000 RPM. ( It's a gas engine not a electric engine )
Sounds like you are really lugging your engine! :-)
Here's an example of what the Subaru can do:
http://www.subaru-global.com/about/history/1989-001.html
This describes the Subaru Legacy breaking the 100,000 km
world speed record.
Their average speed was over 223km/h. This includes
pit stops for driver changes, tire changes, and fuel,
so the speed on the track was higher. The average RPM
was probably over 6000, if this car is geared anything
like my Subaru Forester.
Total time was over 400 hours, and all three cars
that started broke the previous record.
Full disclosure disclaimer: I'm installing a Subaru
in my RV8.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re:GX-60 Jeppesen Skybound Service |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Bentley" <dbentley@fuse.net>
Chill out a little bit! When you get a hold of Jepessen, they'll get
your address, send you a larger 4 MB card and give you instructions on
how to send back the 2MB. No cost. I've had mine for a week.
Duane Bentley
RV6, 160 hrs
N515DB
West Chester, OH
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| Subject: | Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
This is a concern that many have raised with the new re-drive gearing. He is
just now getting ready to ship the engines with this configuration so there is
no data yet on running it at 6900RPM. He also only seems to advocate that setting
on the much larger RV-10. Of course all the HP numbers are calculated only.
No dyno time to verify.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condon, Philip M.
Subject: RV-List: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
Am I right in the math ? With your new reduction unit, your test run from your
list at (prop rpm) of 2700 would be almost 7000 RPM at the engine (crank RPM)
??? Even at 2300 prop rpm that's almost 5900 engine RPM. Call me old fashion,
but isn't this a little fast to spin the engine for such a long period of time?
On my stick shift Saab or wife's Subaru we shift at 2400 to 3400 rpm and cruse
at 1900 to 2400 RPM (80 MPH on I-95). I can't even imagine spinning a Subaru,
or any other engine at 7000 RPM. ( It's a gas engine not a electric engine
)
------------------------------
Subject: [subaruaircraft] H-6 Performance Numbers
On my flight to FL from OR in Sept, I recorded these performance numbers for the
H6. The most efficient RPM is between 2200 and 2300 prop rpm depending on the
cruise altitude. Although I did not get a complet set of numbers, these will
give some idea of the performance that can be expected.
Alt OAT Rpm MAP F/F KTAS
7.5 73 2220 22.4 6.9 144
7.5 77 2700 22.1 8.5 165
9.5 67 2200 20.7 5.9 140
9.5 62 2300 20.4 6.2 144
9.5 63 2700 20.1 7.8 160
These numbers where with the 3rd lower radiator and oil cooler mounted just forward
of the firewall. They are also with the MT prop and the dual SuperTrap mufflers.
The new 2.56 reduction unit may change these numbers. We will see.
Tom Moore
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> Here's an example of what the Subaru can do:
>
> http://www.subaru-global.com/about/history/1989-001.html
They don't say so on the Subaru web site, but at the time it was reported that
after 100,000 kilometers at an average speed of 223 kph (448 hours) the engine
was still within specification for a NEW engine.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
On my stick shift Saab or wife's
> Subaru we shift at 2400 to 3400 rpm and cruse at 1900 to 2400 RPM (80
> MPH on I-95). I can't even imagine spinning a Subaru, or any other
> engine at 7000 RPM. ( It's a gas engine not a electric engine )
Just so the Mazda rotary does not get lumped in with the Subaru, I'll add
that at least the rotary is meant to spin that fast. My engine RPM stays
between 5500 and 6500 with a 2.17:1 reduction drive. Some guys have bigger
gear ratios that allow their engines to turn at over 7000.
However, it is only the e-shaft that is turning that fast - and it is more
or less just a straight piece of steel. The rotors are only turning at 1/3
the e-shaft speed. Red line in an every-day driver RX-8 is 9000 RPM.
--
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
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>
>
> Subject: [subaruaircraft] H-6 Performance Numbers
>
> On my flight to FL from OR in Sept, I recorded these performance
> numbers for the
> H6. The most efficient RPM is between 2200 and 2300 prop rpm depending
> on the
> cruise altitude. Although I did not get a complet set of numbers, these
> will
> give some idea of the performance that can be expected.
>
> Alt OAT Rpm MAP F/F KTAS
>
> 7.5 73 2220 22.4 6.9 144
>
> 7.5 77 2700 22.1 8.5 165
>
> 9.5 67 2200 20.7 5.9 140
>
> 9.5 62 2300 20.4 6.2 144
>
> 9.5 63 2700 20.1 7.8 160
>
> These numbers where with the 3rd lower radiator and oil cooler mounted
> just forward
> of the firewall. They are also with the MT prop and the dual SuperTrap
> mufflers.
>
> The new 2.56 reduction unit may change these numbers. We will see.
>
> Tom Moore
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
That number caught my eye too.
I flew the last Sun 100 race at a constant engine RPM of 7250 with a gear ratio
of 2.85 : 1. Standing start average speed was 217.58 MPH. But I would have
been very nervous if there had been any pistons swapping directions at that
speed : )
Tracy Crook
Mazda 13B rotary powered RV-4 1523 hours.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org<mailto:pcondon@mitre.org>>
Am I right in the math ? With your new reduction unit, your test run
from your list at (prop rpm) of 2700 would be almost 7000 RPM at the
engine (crank RPM) ??? Even at 2300 prop rpm that's almost 5900 engine
RPM. Call me old fashion, but isn't this a little fast to spin the
engine for such a long period of time? On my stick shift Saab or wife's
Subaru we shift at 2400 to 3400 rpm and cruse at 1900 to 2400 RPM (80
MPH on I-95). I can't even imagine spinning a Subaru, or any other
engine at 7000 RPM. ( It's a gas engine not a electric engine )
------------------------------
Subject: [subaruaircraft] H-6 Performance Numbers
On my flight to FL from OR in Sept, I recorded these performance
numbers for the
H6. The most efficient RPM is between 2200 and 2300 prop rpm depending
on the
cruise altitude. Although I did not get a complet set of numbers, these
will
give some idea of the performance that can be expected.
Alt OAT Rpm MAP F/F KTAS
7.5 73 2220 22.4 6.9 144
7.5 77 2700 22.1 8.5 165
9.5 67 2200 20.7 5.9 140
9.5 62 2300 20.4 6.2 144
9.5 63 2700 20.1 7.8 160
These numbers where with the 3rd lower radiator and oil cooler mounted
just forward
of the firewall. They are also with the MT prop and the dual SuperTrap
mufflers.
The new 2.56 reduction unit may change these numbers. We will see.
Tom Moore
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Has anyone experience of using both the AoA in the Dynon D10A and the dedicated
systems (Advanced Flight Systems and Lift Reserve Co.). For the money you pay
I would hope the later systems are providing a whole lot more info., but I wonder?
My only data point is that I have flown with the non audio D10 system and it appeared
to give a very repeatable forecast of the stall.
Thanks, Steve.
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| Subject: | Novelty Aviation Table Lamp |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
Greetings,
I am an RV enthusiast and am almost finished with the
empennage kit for a 7A. I have been laid off since
mid March and there is no sign of relief. Hence,
going further on my project at this time is out of the
question, especially with two kids in college. So, I
am trying to raise some funds to pay bills.
I have built a novelty table lamp from an engine
cylinder. I have cylinders to make six more. Please
view the lamp on Ebay at the following site. If you
are interested, please reply. If not, thanks for
looking.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4599797102&sspagenameADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A31
Dave Nellis
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | BLUE MOUNTAIN AUTOPILOT INSTALLATION |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello Listers
Happy Holidays to the RV Community.
My question: Are there any here on the list who has installed a BMA
Autopilot in an RV-4? I have an EFIS LITE G3 in my -4 and I'm contemplating
the option of an autopilot. How hard was it to install the servos and where
did you install them?
Are you satisfied with the performance vs. the price of the unit?
If you have any pictures of your installation it will be appreciated.
Also if there is anyone with a TRIO autopilot in an RV-4, I would like to
know your feelings regarding the performance of this autopilot and ease of
installation?
Thank you
Bruno Dionne
RV-4 C-GDBH
<mailto:Rv4@videotron.ca> Rv4@videotron.ca
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| Subject: | Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp |
--> RV-List message posted by: chaztuna@adelphia.net
Dave
The link won't work for us mere mortals. Could you post the item number on EBay?
Charlie Kuss
---- Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am an RV enthusiast and am almost finished with the
> empennage kit for a 7A. I have been laid off since
> mid March and there is no sign of relief. Hence,
> going further on my project at this time is out of the
> question, especially with two kids in college. So, I
> am trying to raise some funds to pay bills.
>
> I have built a novelty table lamp from an engine
> cylinder. I have cylinders to make six more. Please
> view the lamp on Ebay at the following site. If you
> are interested, please reply. If not, thanks for
> looking.
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4599797102&sspagenameADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A31
>
> Dave Nellis
>
>
>
>
>
> Just $16.99/mo. or less.
> dsl.yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Novelty Aviation Table Lamp |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Fly n Low" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
Tried the link but could not get it to work. Found the item by its item
number here is a link that should work.
Bud Silvers
RV8 finishing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsea
rch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fws%2Fsearch%2FSaleSearch%3Fsofocus%3Dbs%26satitle%3D4599
797102%26sacat%3D-1%2526catref%253DC5%26amp%253Bsspagename%3Dh%253Ah%253Aadv
search%253AUS%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fsop%3D1%2526fsoo%253D1%
26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D100%26fvi%3D1&item=4599797102
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Nellis
Subject: RV-List: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
Greetings,
I am an RV enthusiast and am almost finished with the
empennage kit for a 7A. I have been laid off since
mid March and there is no sign of relief. Hence,
going further on my project at this time is out of the
question, especially with two kids in college. So, I
am trying to raise some funds to pay bills.
I have built a novelty table lamp from an engine
cylinder. I have cylinders to make six more. Please
view the lamp on Ebay at the following site. If you
are interested, please reply. If not, thanks for
looking.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4599797102&sspa
genameADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A31
Dave Nellis
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: RKAlex123@aol.com
A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack
indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires
access from below to drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill
an access hole in the lower wing to reach this drain with an extension
wire? Or is water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient? There is no clear
guidance in the instructions from Advanced. Appreciate any advise.
Bob Alexander
RV7
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| Subject: | Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
Here is the item number. Sorry for the inconvenience
and thanks for looking.
Dave
4599797102
--- Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis
> <truflite@yahoo.com>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am an RV enthusiast and am almost finished with
> the
> empennage kit for a 7A. I have been laid off since
> mid March and there is no sign of relief. Hence,
> going further on my project at this time is out of
> the
> question, especially with two kids in college. So,
> I
> am trying to raise some funds to pay bills.
>
> I have built a novelty table lamp from an engine
> cylinder. I have cylinders to make six more.
> Please
> view the lamp on Ebay at the following site. If you
> are interested, please reply. If not, thanks for
> looking.
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4599797102&sspagenameADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A31
>
> Dave Nellis
>
>
>
>
>
> Just $16.99/mo. or less.
> dsl.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
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| Subject: | AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Rob (AFS guy) had mentioned at OSH that he really never has any water in it.
The hole is so small it is difficult to penetrate with water. I plan on leaving
it without a drain hole until I can gauge if it's a problem or not.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RKAlex123@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: AOA sensor mounting question
--> RV-List message posted by: RKAlex123@aol.com
A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack indicator.
The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires access from below to
drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill an access hole in the lower
wing to reach this drain with an extension wire? Or is water draining needed
so infrequently that using an access panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain
sufficient? There is no clear guidance in the instructions from Advanced.
Appreciate any advise.
Bob Alexander
RV7
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| Subject: | Re: AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
I would hardly say there is no clear guidance. The user manual says to
add several steps to your checklist. Among those is the statement to
drain the AOA water separator reservoir.
I would suspect, since the opening is on the top of the wing, that you
could expect to get some water in there any time it rains, although I do
not have my RV9A completed yet.
Dick Tasker.
RKAlex123@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: RKAlex123@aol.com
>
>A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack
>indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires
>access from below to drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill
>an access hole in the lower wing to reach this drain with an extension
>wire? Or is water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
>panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient? There is no clear
>guidance in the instructions from Advanced. Appreciate any advise.
>
>Bob Alexander
>RV7
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cardiovascular problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Glen Matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi Bert-
>
> Sorry to hear of your difficulties. To answer your questions and get good
> guidance, I would strongly recommend getting in touch with EAA and finding
> the Aeromedical Advisors in your area. I've used their (FREE) services,
> and was quite impressed. These are AME's who are dedicated to your success
> and volunteer to help us little guys out.
>
> Also, I've used some of the same guys who staff Virtual Flight Surgeons
> (another poster has mentioned them) and can't say enough good about their
> efficacy.
>
> I know none of this answers your direct question, but these references can.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Glen Matejcek
> aerobubba@earthlink.net
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, I have called them already, but they tell me
they did not have any MD in Orlando Area..and that one near was not a Doctors
so I could not understand, what they could do... Aopa has been a lot of
help, at least in getting FAAQ to reply to mail sent to them....
I don't know why, but it seems, it is better to have a bypass, than
nothing. A friend that has a 172, is flying, and he had a by pass...
I have never been in a hospital, but once, for surgery...non related to
heart at all..
HAPPY NEW YEAR...
bert
Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Daves Lamp on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Fly n Low" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
Try this link for Daves lamp.
Looks pretty neat to me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aircraft-Table-Lamp_W0QQitemZ4599797102QQcate
goryZ38629QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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| Subject: | Re: AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Bob,
Frankly, I'm surprised that you can account for neither parts or instructions
to install the moisture drain. Its been a few years since I installed a PSS Sport
AOA which has since been bought out by Advanced. At the time, my "A" kit
came with a sort of spring loaded device that protrudes slightly from the lower
wing surface and you merely depress it as you would any fuel drain to release
(possible) accumulated moisture.
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack
indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires
access from below to drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill
an access hole in the lower wing to reach this drain with an extension
wire? Or is water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient? There is no clear
guidance in the instructions from Advanced. Appreciate any advise.
Bob Alexander
RV7
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| From: | "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com> |
| Subject: | Re: AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com>
Bob, I drilled a hole underneath and plan to use a piece of plastic as a
guide for the wire probe. Just hold the guide under the wing and a mark on
the plastic to orientate it and pass the probe through it. Others glue the
guide inside the wing.
I haven't flown yet and unless I fly through rain or leave it out in the
rain. I doubt it will ever collect water.
Greg
>
> A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack
> indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires
> access from below to drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill
> an access hole in the lower wing to reach this drain with an extension
> wire? Or is water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
> panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient? There is no clear
> guidance in the instructions from Advanced. Appreciate any advise.
>
> Bob Alexander
> RV7
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
Given Tom's info on the H-6 Subie, I thought I might offer the following,
based on a couple of light(1020lb.) RV-6's powered by Lycoming's O-320, and
both using the Sensenich FP metal prop with 79" pitch -
ALTITUDE RPM MAP %HP TAS
2000 ' 2400 24" 75 160
3000 2325 21 65 152
5000 2400 21 65 153 - ave. of 4 runs over triangular course
with GPS
6000 2400 20 60 155
7500 2350 18 55 152
8500 2600 21 75 170 ( OAT was 8.9 deg C, KIAS was 155 )
8900 2450 19.5 62 158
10600 2450 18.5 60 154
The H-6 is a real smooth engine, but not sure about 7000 rpm in cruise. I
like the rumble of the Lycoming, and I regularly get 6.3 US gallons per hr
fuel burn at 55-60% power, so I can't complain about the economy over the
past 200 hours either.
FWIW
Martin in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <rv8@lazy8.net>
I have had my AOA sport installed and flying for two years. It has set
out in two major OSH rainstorms among others. I have never gotten a drop
out of the drain.
John
Greg@itmack wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com>
>
>Bob, I drilled a hole underneath and plan to use a piece of plastic as a
>guide for the wire probe. Just hold the guide under the wing and a mark on
>the plastic to orientate it and pass the probe through it. Others glue the
>guide inside the wing.
>
>I haven't flown yet and unless I fly through rain or leave it out in the
>rain. I doubt it will ever collect water.
>
>Greg
>
>
>>A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of Attack
>>indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water separator which requires
>>access from below to drain any accumulated water. Did you just drill
>>an access hole in the lower wing to reach this drain with an extension
>>wire? Or is water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
>>panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient? There is no clear
>>guidance in the instructions from Advanced. Appreciate any advise.
>>
>>Bob Alexander
>>RV7
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | AOA sensor mounting question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I've never seen water in mine, even after "the storm" last year at OSH. I
do have the drain hole access though just in case. I've since made covers
for the AOA hole (and fuel caps) from the static cling shade intented for
the canopy.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RKAlex123@aol.com [mailto:RKAlex123@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:39 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: AOA sensor mounting question
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: RKAlex123@aol.com
>
> A question for those of you that have installed an Angle of
> Attack indicator. The upper wing sensor has a water
> separator which requires access from below to drain any
> accumulated water. Did you just drill an access hole in the
> lower wing to reach this drain with an extension wire? Or is
> water draining needed so infrequently that using an access
> panel or wingtip removal to reach the drain sufficient?
> There is no clear guidance in the instructions from Advanced.
> Appreciate any advise.
>
> Bob Alexander
> RV7
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Cardiovascular problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <Dan.Beadle@hq.InclineSoftworks.com>
The thing to remember is living is more important than flying. Don't
put off heart treatment just so you can keep flying. The FAA seems
pretty accommodating these days. Sure, if you have bypass you are out
for 6 months, but that is just a speed-bump in life.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
bertrv6@highstream.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Cardiovascular problem
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Glen Matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek"
<aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi Bert-
>
> Sorry to hear of your difficulties. To answer your questions and get
good
> guidance, I would strongly recommend getting in touch with EAA and
finding
> the Aeromedical Advisors in your area. I've used their (FREE)
services,
> and was quite impressed. These are AME's who are dedicated to your
success
> and volunteer to help us little guys out.
>
> Also, I've used some of the same guys who staff Virtual Flight
Surgeons
> (another poster has mentioned them) and can't say enough good about
their
> efficacy.
>
> I know none of this answers your direct question, but these references
can.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Glen Matejcek
> aerobubba@earthlink.net
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, I have called them already, but they tell
me
they did not have any MD in Orlando Area..and that one near was not a
Doctors
so I could not understand, what they could do... Aopa has been a lot of
help, at least in getting FAAQ to reply to mail sent to them....
I don't know why, but it seems, it is better to have a bypass, than
nothing. A friend that has a 172, is flying, and he had a by pass...
I have never been in a hospital, but once, for surgery...non related to
heart at all..
HAPPY NEW YEAR...
bert
Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Novelty Aviation Table Lamp |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
Search for item number 4599797102 for the lamp.
Dave
--- Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis
> <truflite@yahoo.com>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am an RV enthusiast and am almost finished with
> the
> empennage kit for a 7A. I have been laid off since
> mid March and there is no sign of relief. Hence,
> going further on my project at this time is out of
> the
> question, especially with two kids in college. So,
> I
> am trying to raise some funds to pay bills.
>
> I have built a novelty table lamp from an engine
> cylinder. I have cylinders to make six more.
> Please
> view the lamp on Ebay at the following site. If you
> are interested, please reply. If not, thanks for
> looking.
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item4599797102&sspagenameADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A31
>
> Dave Nellis
>
>
>
>
>
> Just $16.99/mo. or less.
> dsl.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru 6900 RPM in a RV - WTF |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> The H-6 is a real smooth engine, but not sure about 7000 rpm in cruise.
As so often happens, this Subaru-RPM issue is in a spiral dive and needs to be
brought under control by the application of facts. Eggenfellner's web site
lists 5900 RPM as maximum climb and 4600 RPM as cruise.
I haven't worked it out for the newer Eggenfellner engine, but for the
previous, 2.5-litre engine 4600 RPM would give approximately the same piston
speed as a Lycoming has at 2600 RPM.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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