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1. 04:07 AM - Re: EngineSaver - does it work? (Jack Fromm)
2. 05:10 AM - Re: Ribs pre-fluted? (Smitty)
3. 05:15 AM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (sportav8r@aol.com)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: TIS Connect Select (Bob J)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: Lakaland RV Flyin delayed to Next weekend (Tracy Crook)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: TIS Connect Select (Tim Olson)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: TIS Connect Select (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
8. 10:19 AM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (Steve Sampson)
9. 11:33 AM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (Sam Buchanan)
10. 02:03 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (Sam Buchanan)
11. 02:43 PM - RV-4 Center Radio Console (Paul Besing)
12. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: New Format (Ken Simmons)
13. 03:10 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (Wentz, Don)
14. 04:10 PM - Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console (Louis Willig)
15. 04:56 PM - Re: AFP mixture cable length (sarg314)
16. 06:05 PM - Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console (Robin Marks)
17. 06:46 PM - Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console (Vincent Osburn)
18. 06:54 PM - Re: Ribs pre-fluted? (Mike Crowe)
19. 08:27 PM - Re: Re: Ribs pre-fluted? (Folbrecht, Paul)
20. 09:12 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot (Vanremog@AOL.COM)
21. 09:58 PM - Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console (Paul Besing)
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| Subject: | EngineSaver - does it work? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Fromm" <jfromm1@hotmail.com>
Dan,
I used one of these while I was building but haven't used it since I've been
flying. So far, I think I've been flying frequently enough not to need it.
I used it while building because I didn't like some of the other pickling
options for various reasons I won't go into here. As for how effective it
was, I don't have any hard evidence to go by (like an engine teardown) but
one thing I did notice right away made me think it was doing what it was
supposed to. I had the usual desiccant plugs installed in my cylinders and
they were well on their way to turning pink when I plugged the Engine Saver
into the breather and turned it on for the first time. Within a day or two,
the desiccant plugs had turned back to blue. That proved to me that very
dry air was indeed circulating throughout the engine.
Two things I didn't like about the unit: 1) it does seem way overpriced for
a small pump and a recycled soda bottle full of silica gel, and 2) the pump
needed constant adjustment to keep the flow in a range where it was moving
enough air to be effective but no so much that you would have to dry the
beads out every other week.
Jack Fromm
RV-8 Flying
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Couldn't hurt but there is more to it than simply humidity levels. Things
like the oil becoming acidic and other nasty items. Not to mention that dry
startup
after sitting for extended periods.
You could roll your own with something like an aquarium air pump, some
color
changing silica from someplace like
<http://www.veritemp.com/index.asp?cat=3D155549>, and some misc fittings for
probably less than $30. If you want to improve on it you could have it pull
the
air from someplace like the breather tube and then pump it right back into
the
dipstick tube.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
Aircraft Components sells a device that pumps low pressure dry air into the
engine
block for the purpose of inhibiting rust during long periods of storage.
Details can be found at: http://www.flyingsafer.com/2039.htm
I am wondering if it really works.
Thank you for your comments and opinions, Dan Krueger RV6A Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs pre-fluted? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
I'm not surprised. Vans seems to make constant improvements as far as ease
of construction. The instructions on my RV-9A tail kit said that the
elevator horns had to "aligned" for drilling into the spar and end rib
since the holes are not pre-drilled in the spar and rib. Went I went to do
this part, I found that the holes were already drilled. COOL!
Smittys RV-9A
http://SmittysRV.com
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
> <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
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> The ribs in my empennege kit, at least the HS ribs, all came pre-fluted.
> I did not think this was the norm - is it?? The job was done well enough
> that no additional work was necessary.
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Glad you ended up happy with yours, Charlie. I am with mine, too. C'mon, the
Alt Hold wiring wasn't all that bad. It was the mounting bracket that took some
puzzling out and some crawling around on the old belly ;-)
As I told Sid, the A/H was difficult to calibrate, since the vibe level in my stick
from the engine made it impossible to feel the servo pulses I was supposed
to tune out, so I ended up at factory defaults and it seems happy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: charles heathco <cheathco@junct.com>
Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:38:49 -0600
Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot Autopilot
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I have both the EZ pilot and the EZ-1 alt hold installed. Ez pilot is hooked to
296. I had some problems getting them going, but support was very good, and
they work as advertised. The wiring for the Alt hold definatly requires some
skill, but the EZ pilot has a mounting kit and wiring kit availible, Charlie
Heathco (RV6a)
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| Subject: | Re: TIS Connect Select |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Guys, isn't the FAA phasing out TIS? Why bother?
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying, F1 under const.
On 1/13/06, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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> Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
> of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
> was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
> it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
> and see how that works, unless others come back with
> some experience that showed they really needed to have it
> connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
> someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
> their own.
>
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> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> splevy@l-band-systems.com wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: splevy@l-band-systems.com
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> > I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same
> thing. Turns
> > out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
> > description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
> > the manual, and advised me to "just try it".
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> > BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is
> the
> > first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to
> Garmin
> > were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a
> wiring
> > problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish they
> would
> > have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
> > it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
> > transponder.
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> > Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.
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> > Stan
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> > At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
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> >>--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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> >> From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
> >>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
> >>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
> >>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
> >>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
> >>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
> >>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
> >>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
> >>something I have to do manually.
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> >>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
> >>that transponder using that signal?
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> >>Thanks in advance,
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| Subject: | Re: Lakaland RV Flyin delayed to Next weekend |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
RV WEEKEND POSTPONED DUE TO INCOMING BAD WEATHER. RESCHEDULED FOR RAIN DATE OF
JANUARY 20/21/22 2005. PLEASE CALL 386-935-2973 WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
Unfortunately, It appears that Friday the 13th had shown its ugly side weather
wise. Despite favorable projections as recently as 24 hours previous, the most
recent projected weather for the Southeast, including Florida, includes a passing
cold front with associated severe weather. This front is bringing severe
thunderstorms, rain/hail and high wind. This front is forecast to cover NC,
GA, AL and parts of North Florida by Friday afternoon. It is forecast to pass
through Lakeland area 2 AM Saturday morning leaving clear, but cold and windy
(gusts to 30 mph) Saturday. Additionally, there is activity in the gulf that
appears will move onshore in the northern part of the state early this morning
and while not severe - will bring clouds and reduced visibility making problematic
any attempted flights from areas north of Florida early this morning
to "beat" the main cold front.
Regretfully, we have decided to cancel the activity schedule for this weekend and
revert to our "RAINDATE" OF 20, 21, 22 Jan (next weekend). Hopefully, this
means that many who would not have been able to reach Lakeland this weekend due
to the weather, will be able to make our rain date. Again, we truly regret
the timing of this notice, but would not want to entice anyone to brave these
conditions. See you next weekend.
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| Subject: | Re: TIS Connect Select |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Yeah, they're phasing it out just like everything else
they phase out....it's the 10 year plan..or more.
The coverage is still pretty good on many of my routes
of flight, the cost is cheap enough to be nil in my situation,
and ADS-B although maybe preferable is still highly
expensive to add. So for the time being, this
is a very workable option. It should also be noted
that part of the phase out is that they're just not
adding the TIS option when they upgrade radar systems,
but if they ever change directions, it's only a software
add for them to put TIS somewhere. Haven't ever heard
of the US Gvt. changing directions before. ;)
So what's better, having TIS for a few years for
almost nothing, or having nothing for a few years
and then still getting a big bill to install it?
Tim
do not archive
Bob J wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
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> Guys, isn't the FAA phasing out TIS? Why bother?
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying, F1 under const.
>
> On 1/13/06, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
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>>--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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>>Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
>>of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
>>was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
>>it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
>>and see how that works, unless others come back with
>>some experience that showed they really needed to have it
>>connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
>>someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
>>their own.
>>
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>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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>>splevy@l-band-systems.com wrote:
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>>>--> RV-List message posted by: splevy@l-band-systems.com
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>>>I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same
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>>>description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more than
>>>the manual, and advised me to "just try it".
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>>>BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80) is
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>>>have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working on
>>>it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
>>>transponder.
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>>>Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.
>>>
>>>Stan
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>>>At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>>>
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>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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>>>>From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
>>>>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
>>>>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
>>>>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
>>>>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
>>>>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
>>>>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
>>>>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
>>>>something I have to do manually.
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>>>>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
>>>>that transponder using that signal?
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>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>Tim
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| Subject: | TIS Connect Select |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Cause what is in place now for TIS works great.
By the time they phase this out we will have many years of decent
service for a low cost traffic solution in the cockpit.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: TIS Connect Select
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Guys, isn't the FAA phasing out TIS? Why bother?
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying, F1 under const.
On 1/13/06, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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> Thanks for taking the time to reply so quick Stan, this kind
> of info is really valuable and hard to find. Nothing on google
> was helpful at all. So you're having good luck just letting
> it float. I'll just leave mine that way for a while then
> and see how that works, unless others come back with
> some experience that showed they really needed to have it
> connected. You are just what I was hoping to find though...
> someone who actually used the TIS and hooked it up on
> their own.
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> splevy@l-band-systems.com wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: splevy@l-band-systems.com
> >
> > I have a GTX330 interfaced to a GPS396, and wondered the same
> thing. Turns
> > out it works okay with the input left floating, despite what the pin
> > description says. The tech rep from Garmin knew only slightly more
than
> > the manual, and advised me to "just try it".
> >
> > BTW, the revision of 396 software that came out in December (2.80)
is
> the
> > first one that actually worked to display traffic. Prior calls to
> Garmin
> > were useless, as they claimed that it worked fine, and I must have a
> wiring
> > problem. This is one wire, and pretty hard to do wrong. I wish
they
> would
> > have just said it didn't function properly yet and they were working
on
> > it. Would have saved a lot of anxiety about spending $2K extra on a
> > transponder.
> >
> > Despite the six month wait, it does seem to work fine.
> >
> > Stan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:20 PM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >>
> >> From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks
> >>as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system
> >>that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily
> >>taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were
> >>displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled
> >>by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in"
> >>to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter
> >>to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is
> >>something I have to do manually.
> >>
> >>Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of
> >>that transponder using that signal?
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> >>Thanks in advance,
> >>Tim
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
I have followed this thread with interest.
The one thought I have is of the three units discussed (Tru track / Ezi /
Navaid) the true track servos look to be of a much better quality. I have
only handled the Navaid servo, which from pictures looks as though it is
common to the Ezi. It always appeared not too robust.
Anyone care to comment?
Thanks, Steve.
PS Do these companies make these servos themselves?.
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Steve Sampson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
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> I have followed this thread with interest.
>
> The one thought I have is of the three units discussed (Tru track / Ezi /
> Navaid) the true track servos look to be of a much better quality. I have
> only handled the Navaid servo, which from pictures looks as though it is
> common to the Ezi. It always appeared not too robust.
>
> Anyone care to comment?
>
> Thanks, Steve.
>
> PS Do these companies make these servos themselves?.
The TruTrak servo is indeed a nice looking and hefty unit. It uses a
stepping motor instead of a linear motor and clutch. However, I have
heard that a new version of this servo is in the works that has a clutch.
The Navaid servo is much lighter than the TruTrak and based on analog
technology that has been around for many years. In spite of its dated
appearance and light weight, the servo has an excellent field history in
service with both Navaid control heads and more recently with the
EZ-Pilot heads. This servo incorporates a clutch that releases the gear
train when power is removed from the servo.
Trio is shipping their new servo with their altitude hold devices and it
is a dandy both mechanically and electronically. This state-of-the-art
servo is the only one that includes an accelerometer *in the servo* that
is an integral part of the fail-safe system. The servo and control head
constantly poll each other, and if an argument can't be settled, the
system releases the servo. If the servo independently sees a high G load
from its built-in accelerometer, it will deactivate. As far as I know,
this is the only system that provides the servo with enough brains to
independently disconnect in an emergency without being commanded by the
control head. I suspect this new servo will eventually find its way into
the entire Trio product line.
Hope this info helps with understanding the various options. With the
exception of the Navaid servo used on the EZ-Pilot and the Navaid
version of the DigiTrak, as far as I know the other servos are produced
by the respective companies. I am not an employee of any autopilot
company, just a very interested bystander and customer of both Trio and
TruTrak.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Sam Buchanan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
<snip>
> Trio is shipping their new servo with their altitude hold devices and it
> is a dandy both mechanically and electronically. This state-of-the-art
> servo is the only one that includes an accelerometer *in the servo* that
> is an integral part of the fail-safe system. The servo and control head
> constantly poll each other, and if an argument can't be settled, the
> system releases the servo. If the servo independently sees a high G load
> from its built-in accelerometer, it will deactivate. As far as I know,
> this is the only system that provides the servo with enough brains to
> independently disconnect in an emergency without being commanded by the
> control head. I suspect this new servo will eventually find its way into
> the entire Trio product line.
<snip>
I just received word from Trio that they have been shipping their new
Gold Standard servo (the one discussed above) with the EZ-Pilot since
about 45 days ago.
I looked inside one of these servos at OSH and the engineering and
materials look first class; should be a worthy component for their
excellent autopilots.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | RV-4 Center Radio Console |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
I've seen many RV-4's that have a center radio console
below the instrument panel to save space. Is this
something in the plans, or is it purely a fab yourself
kind of mod?
Since panel space in a -4 is premium, I would think
that many have done this before.
Thanks in advance.
Paul Besing
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
Just wanted to let everyone know that Matt and I have been investigating this problem
and exchanging emails the past couple of days. It seems the problem is
on my end. My system is not responding in a timely fashion to one of the security
checks that Matt's system does. Not much I can do about it without help from
my ISP.
Just wanted to retract my report of slow response.
Thanks.
Ken
DO NOT ARCHIVE
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Simmons" <ken@truckstop.com>
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>No offense to Matt, but it seems like the forums load really slow. I've also noticed
that when searching the archives using the old system. Maybe it's just
me.
>
>Ken
>
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>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:43:45 -0800
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>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
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>>DITO from Cappy.
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>>Cappy's Toy
>>RV-8 N123Sg
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| Subject: | EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
With all this talk about selling of Navaids to buy other autopilots, any
of you selling the Navaids cheap?
Mine works great (compared to what I had before - nothing ;-) and I have
a friend with an RV-4 without even a T&B that would advance light years
with a 'crappy old Navaid' wing leveler.
Contact me offline pls.
Dw
RV-6 920hrs
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
At 05:40 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
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>I've seen many RV-4's that have a center radio console
>below the instrument panel to save space. Is this
>something in the plans, or is it purely a fab yourself
>kind of mod?
Paul,
A center console is not in the plans. I have one in my purchased -4 and
live with it as best as possible. My panel was not well designed, and I
had no choice at all, except to add a center console when I installed a
radio and transponder. Today, with the EFIS systems available, I think
anyone could figure out a way to have everything above your knees. The
advantage is easy access to battery and the ability to move your legs
around a little bit. On the other hand, the tilt down tray in my -4 is
indispensable! I have heard of some -4 owner using the tilt down concept
to mount radio, transponder, and other instruments
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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| Subject: | Re: AFP mixture cable length |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Just to complete this thread for the archive, I have decided to take the
advice of several others and change my mixture and throttle cable
routing plans. The first idea was to bring the cables through the
firewall low so it would have a straight shot to the AFP control arms.
That would have the cable between the bracket on the engine and the
firewall be only about 4" long. That is too short to tolerate engine
movement safely.
I have decided to bring the cable through the firewall just below the
top piece of angle that runs horizontally across the firewall. (I'm
talking about an RV-6A here). That's about 1 foot above the AFP control
arm. The cable will do a graceful S-curve down to the attachment point
on the AFP fuel controller. I think this is much safer, although it
makes things a bit more congested back there.
--
Tom S.
RV-6A
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| Subject: | RV-4 Center Radio Console |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
Paul,
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-4/cockpit.htm
As a non-builder I added a center console to my -4 and it made for a
cleaner panel giving me a place for a Nav.com, transponder and GPS. I
also added two lower surfaces for four additional engine gauges. It was
a simple addition with little downside. IMHO.
Above is a link with detailed photos.
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A 250 hours
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 Center Radio Console |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Osburn" <flyby41@earthlink.net>
I too have a purchased -4 with radio, txp, intercom between the knees. My
radio stack is quickly removable for battery service so that is not a big
problem but the thing I hate is having to look down between my knees at
something as often used as a radio or transponder. With steam gauges
filling the panel it was the only place for it. I would do everything I
could to avoid putting the radio there. I wouldn't put anything there that
has to be looked at or adjusted often. It's down too low to maintain your
peripheral vision with the horizon. Especially if you are wearing a brimmed
hat as is often needed when flying an RV type craft. Maybe it ain't a
problem for some.
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> [Original Message]
> From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/13/2006 4:06:42 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-4 Center Radio Console
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>
> At 05:40 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
> >
> >I've seen many RV-4's that have a center radio console
> >below the instrument panel to save space. Is this
> >something in the plans, or is it purely a fab yourself
> >kind of mod?
>
> Paul,
>
> A center console is not in the plans. I have one in my purchased -4 and
> live with it as best as possible. My panel was not well designed, and I
> had no choice at all, except to add a center console when I installed a
> radio and transponder. Today, with the EFIS systems available, I think
> anyone could figure out a way to have everything above your knees. The
> advantage is easy access to battery and the ability to move your legs
> around a little bit. On the other hand, the tilt down tray in my -4 is
> indispensable! I have heard of some -4 owner using the tilt down concept
> to mount radio, transponder, and other instruments
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs pre-fluted? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Crowe" <rv8a@bellsouth.net>
I work at Alexander Tech Center as an instructor on the tail kit program.
Some of the RV9 and RV10 HS ribs come fluted.
Mike Crowe
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3810#3810
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs pre-fluted? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
It was not a pre-owned kit. I bought it in June, actually, but had to take a 5.5
month hiatus from the project.
~Paul
~9A QB #1176 Enjoying every minute of it so far.
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Autopilot |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 1/13/2006 3:11:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
don.wentz@intel.com writes:
With all this talk about selling of Navaids to buy other autopilots, any
of you selling the Navaids cheap?
Mine works great (compared to what I had before - nothing ;-) and I have
a friend with an RV-4 without even a T&B that would advance light years
with a 'crappy old Navaid' wing leveler.
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I'm down with the Duck Dude on this one. My old vintage '97 Navaid has
worked fine since day one and, aside from the fact that it doesn't have an
altitude hold option (the Pig Dude never come thru on this one), I am generally
happy with it.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 771hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | RV-4 Center Radio Console |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Thanks, Robin. How did you mount your Garmin? Looks
like it's the detachable mount. Is it removable?
--- Robin Marks <robin@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks"
> <robin@mrmoisture.com>
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> Paul,
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> http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-4/cockpit.htm
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> As a non-builder I added a center console to my -4
> and it made for a
> cleaner panel giving me a place for a Nav.com,
> transponder and GPS. I
> also added two lower surfaces for four additional
> engine gauges. It was
> a simple addition with little downside. IMHO.
> Above is a link with detailed photos.
>
> Robin
> RV-4 Sold
> RV-6A 250 hours
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