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1. 04:43 AM - Re: mogas (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
2. 05:01 AM - Re: mogas (Ed Anderson)
3. 05:05 AM - FAA list of TIS (mode-s) broadcast sites as of 20 January 2006 (Don Hall)
4. 05:40 AM - Re: "Excess" Energy use! (N395V)
5. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive... (Bob C.)
6. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive... (Jeff Dowling)
7. 08:11 AM - Re: Advanced Flight Systems AF2500 Engine Monitor - Fuel Flow Sensor (Jeff Dowling)
8. 09:14 AM - Anyone near IKK, Kankakee IL (Jeff Dowling)
9. 09:37 AM - Re: mogas (charles heathco)
10. 09:45 AM - Service variations - Intercom (Nic)
11. 10:15 AM - Re: mogas (Mickey Coggins)
12. 10:20 AM - Re: Service variations - Intercom (Mickey Coggins)
13. 10:41 AM - Re: Service variations - Intercom (Mauri Morin)
14. 10:59 AM - Re: Service variations - Intercom (Jerry Springer)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: Service variations - Intercom (chaztuna@adelphia.net)
16. 11:53 AM - Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help (David Karlsberg)
17. 12:15 PM - Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help (HCRV6@comcast.net)
18. 12:48 PM - Re: Service variations - Intercom ()
19. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: "Excess" Energy use! (Vanremog@aol.com)
20. 12:58 PM - Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help (LARRY ADAMSON)
21. 01:23 PM - [ Michael Kosta ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
22. 02:27 PM - helmet issues (David Carter)
23. 02:47 PM - Audio Panel for sale (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
24. 03:10 PM - Liability Insurance. (Bert Murillo)
25. 04:48 PM - Re: helmet issues (Fly n Low)
26. 05:32 PM - Re: Liability Insurance. (LarryRobertHelming)
27. 05:53 PM - Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help (Charlie England)
28. 06:20 PM - Re: Liability Insurance. (RV6 Flyer)
29. 06:20 PM - Langley Fly-in 2006 (Tedd McHenry)
30. 06:30 PM - 1st rivet's confussion (Dan)
31. 06:57 PM - Re: 1st rivet's confussion (Jeff Point)
32. 09:43 PM - Re: 1st rivet's confussion (Jim Jewell)
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--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
AIRNAV.COM
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Larry, AirNav.Com has a Fuel Price program. You can use it several ways.
But, it also includes a function that enables you to input your departure
and arriving airport and specify either the fastest or cheapest route. You
can also specify some parameters such as max leg distance, etc. It will
then compute up to 10 routes and give you how much you would save (I presume
over the average price along the route) each route as well as the distance
of each route, etc.
Worth using, but as others have said, sometimes the fuel prices and
availability are not up todate so you should call ahead.
Ed A
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: RV-List: mogas
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> What is easy way to determine which airports have autogas aka mogas for
> planning XC stops?
>
> Indiana Larry, RV7
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FAA list of TIS (mode-s) broadcast sites as of 20 January 2006 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
Got this off another list I'm on. If you were wondering if Mode S was a
lost investment, this may help.
-----Original Message-----
From: pipercherokee@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pipercherokee@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of paul k. sanchez
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: [pipercherokee] FAA list of TIS (mode-s) broadcast sites as of 20
January 2006
Got this list from Rebecca Trexler (rebecca.trexler@faa.gov) at the FAA
public affairs office. It shows 115 broadcast sites (each 55 nm radius for
TIS) as of 20 January 2006. And still 97 broadcast sites after year 2012.
But without the Garmin GTX330 you can't get the TIS on your Garmin
MX20/GNS430/GNS480/GNS530 or Avidyne display.
Operational MODE-S Facilities Providing Traffic Information Service (mode-s)
Data as of January 20, 2006
RADAR ST FAC PRIMARY TIS
# FACILITY IDENT RDR TYPE REGION MEMO
1 ABILENE TX ABI ASR-8 ASW SEG 1
2 ALBANY NY ALB ASR-9 AEA
3 ALBUQUERQUE NM ABQ ASR-9 ASW
4 ANDREWS AFB MD ADW ASR-9 AEA
5 ATLANTA GA ATL ASR-9 ASO
6 ATLANTA 2 (LAWRENCEVILLE) GA LZU ASR-9 ASO
7 AUSTIN TX AUS ASR-9 ASW
8 BALTIMORE MD BWI ASR-9 AEA
9 BEALE (MARYSVILLE) CA BAB ASR-9 AWP
10 BILLINGS MT BIL ASR-7 ANM SEG 1
11 BIRMINGHAM AL BHM ASR-9 ASO
12 BISMARCK ND BIS ASR-8 AGL SEG 2
13 BOSTON MA BOS ASR-9 ANE
14 BRISTOL/JOHNSON/KINGSPORT TN TRI ASR-8 ASO SEG 2
15 BUFFALO NY BUF ASR-9 AEA
16 BURBANK CA BUR ASR-9 AWP
17 CAMP PENDLETON CA NFG ASR-9 AWP
18 CEDAR RAPIDS IA CID ASR-9 ACE
19 CHARLESTON SC CHS ASR-9 ASO
20 CHARLOTTE NC CLT ASR-9 ASO
21 CHESTER NH MHTT ASR-9 ANE
22 CHICAGO IL ORD ASR-9 AGL
23 CHICAGO (TINLEY PARK) IL QXM ASR-9 AGL
24 CLEVELAND OH CLE ASR-9 AGL
25 COLUMBUS OH CMH ASR-9 AGL
26 CORPUS CHRISTI TX CRP ASR-8 ASW SEG 1
27 COVINGTON/CINCINNATI KY CVG ASR-9 ASO
28 DAYTON OH DAY ASR-9 AGL
29 DAYTONA BEACH FL DAB ASR-9 ASO
30 DENVER CO DVX ASR-9 ANM
31 DENVER-2 (PLATTEVILLE) CO GXY ASR-9 ANM
32 DES MOINES IA DSM ASR-9 ACE
33 DETROIT "A" Site (Romulus) MI DTWA ASR-9 AGL
34 DETROIT "C" SITE (Northville/Pontiac) MI DTWC ASR-9 AGL
35 DFW - 1 TX DFW ASR-9 ASW
36 DFW - 2 (AIRFIELD WEST) TX QZB ASR-9 ASW
37 DFW - 3 (AZLE) TX PA2 ASR-9 ASW
38 DFW - 4 (SACHSE) TX MI2 ASR-9 ASW
39 DULUTH MN DLH ASR-8 AGL SEG 2
40 EL PASO TX ELP ASR-9 ASW
41 EVANSVILLE IN EVV ASR-8 AGL SEG 2
42 FARGO ND FAR ASR-7 AGL SEG 1
43 FAYETTEVILLE NC FAY ASR-8 ASO
44 FORT LAUDERDALE FL FLL ASR-9 ASO
45 FORT SMITH AR FSM ASR-8 ASW SEG 1
46 GAINESVILLE FL GNV ASR-9 ASO
47 GRAND RAPIDS MI GRR ASR-9 AGL
48 GREAT FALLS MT GTF ASR-8 ANM SEG 2
49 HARRISBURG PA MDT ASR-9 AEA
50 HONOLULU HI HNL ASR-9 AWP
51 HOUSTON INTERNATIONAL TX IAH ASR-9 ASW
52 HOUSTON/HOBBY TX HOU ASR-9 ASW
53 INDIANAPOLIS IN IND ASR-9 AGL
54 ISLIP NY ISP ASR-9 AEA
55 JACKSON MS JAN ASR-8 ASO SEG 2
56 JACKSONVILLE FL JAX ASR-9 ASO
57 JFK - NEW YORK NY JFK ASR-9 AEA
58 KANSAS CITY MO MCI ASR-9 ACE
59 LAKE CHARLES LA LCH ASR-8 ASW SEG 2
60 LAS VEGAS NV LAS ASR-9 AWP
61 LITTLE ROCK AR LIT ASR-8 ASW SEG 1
62 LONG BEACH CA LGB ASR-9 AWP
63 LOS ANGELES-1 CA LAX ASR-9 AWP
64 LOS ANGELES-2 CA LAXA ASR-9 AWP
65 LOUISVILLE KY SDF ASR-9 ASO
66 MADISON WI MSN ASR-9 AGL
67 MARTINSBURG WV MRB ASR-9 AEA
68 MEMPHIS TN MEM ASR-9 ASO
69 MIAMI FL MIA ASR-9 ASO
70 MILWAUKEE WI MKE ASR-9 AGL
71 MINNEAPOLIS MN MSP ASR-9 AGL
72 MOFFETT/SAN JOSE CA NUQ ASR-9 AWP
73 NASHVILLE TN BNA ASR-9 ASO
74 NEW ORLEANS LA MSY ASR-9 ASW
75 NEWARK NJ EWR ASR-9 AEA
76 NORFOLK VA ORF ASR-9 AEA
77 OAKLAND CA OAK ASR-9 AWP
78 OKLAHOMA CITY OK OKC ASR-9 ASW
79 OMAHA NE OFF ASR-9 ACE
80 ONTARIO CA ONT ASR-9 AWP
81 ORLANDO FL MCO ASR-9 ASO
82 PALM SPRINGS CA PSP ASR-9 AWP
83 PENSACOLA FL PNS ASR-8 ASO SEG 1
84 PHILADELPHIA PA PHL ASR-9 AEA
85 PHOENIX AZ PHX ASR-9 AWP
86 PITTSBURGH PA PIT ASR-9 AEA
87 PORTLAND OR PDX ASR-9 ANM
88 PORTLAND ME CUMB ASR-9 ANE
89 PROVIDENCE (COVENTRY) RI PVD ASR-9 ANE
90 RALEIGH/DURHAM NC RDU ASR-9 ASO
91 ROANOKE VA ROA ASR-8 AEA SEG 2
92 ROCHESTER NY ROC ASR-9 AEA
93 SACRAMENTO CA MCC ASR-9 AWP
94 SAINT LOUIS-2 MO STL2 ASR-9 ACE
95 SALT LAKE CITY UT SLC ASR-9 ANM
96 SAN ANTONIO TX SAT ASR-9 ASW
97 SAN DIEGO/MIRAMAR CA NKX ASR-9 AWP
98 SANTA BARBARA CA SBA ASR-8 AWP SEG 1
99 SARASOTA FL SRQ ASR-9 ASO
100 SCOTT AFB IL BLV ASR-9 AGL
101 SEATTLE WA SEAB ASR-9 ANM
102 SHREVEPORT (BOSSIER CITY) LA BAD ASR-9 ASW
103 SPOKANE WA GEG ASR-9 ANM
104 STEWART NY SWF ASR-9 AEA
105 SYRACUSE NY SYR ASR-9 AEA
106 TALLAHASSEE FL TLH ASR-8 ASO SEG 2
107 TAMPA FL TPA ASR-9 ASO
108 TUCSON AZ TUS ASR-9 AWP
109 TULSA OK TUL ASR-9 ASW
110 WASHINGTON DULLES VA IAD ASR-9 AEA
111 WASHINGTON REAGAN NATIONAL (DC) VA DCA ASR-9 AEA
112 WHITE PLAINS NY HPN ASR-9 AEA
113 WICHITA KS ICT ASR-9 ACE
114 WILMINGTON NC ILM ASR-8 ASO SEG 2
115 WINDSOR LOCKS CT BDL ASR-9 ANE
SEGMENT 1 SITES NOT PROVIDING TIS SERVICE
1 BANGOR ME COMMISSIONED ASR-11 (11/1/2004)
2 SPRINGFIELD MO COMMISSIONED ASR-11 (4/13/2005)
3 MACON GA MODE-S LEAPFROGGED TO FAY (6/15/2003)
4 MIDLAND TX NOT PRESENTLY OPERATING IN MODE-S
115 TOTAL OPERATIONAL MODE-S FACILITIES PROVIDING TIS SERVICE AS OF
1/20/2006
8 SEGMENT 1 REMAINING
10 SEGMENT 2
97 FACILITIES PROVIDING TIS SERVICE AFTER COMPLETION OF SEGMENTS 1 & 2
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| Subject: | Re: "Excess" Energy use! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
Vanremog(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Some of us also need a Starbuck's Venti Iced Mocha to put in it.
>
> Do not archive unless future anthropologists need this information to
> analyze our downfall.
>
> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 771hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
Wait Wait please archive I am already starting the analysis.
--------
Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7536#7536
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| Subject: | Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
Thanks Skippy,
An interesting article for all to read!
I actually made the comment somewhat "tongue-in-cheek" . . . I have a
1940 Piper J4-A that I have to hand prop . . . if I get hurt . . . who do I
sue . . . how long is long enough . . . there are financial and personal
risks when you mess with airplanes . . . It does seem to me the we pay a lot
for FAA Certification for less benefit than the cost . . . but there are few
guarantees that cover you after you get down the road a ways!
I'm lucky . . . my ECi cylinders (on my RV-8) are the more recent "Titan"
version and are unaffected by the AD . . . but who knows what tomorrow may
bring??
Thanks again,
Bob
On 1/27/06, hemico <mdasilva@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "hemico" <mdasilva@ameritech.net>
>
> Here is an interesting article on Aviation Product Liability.
>
> http://www.avweb.com/news/avlaw/181885-1.html
>
> Bob C...There is a small section in the article that speaks to FAA
> certification.
>
> Regards,
> Skippy
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D7309#7309
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Just imagine how bad it is for the certified suckers, I mean owners.
do not archive
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
<rv7and7a@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive...
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
>
> Thank you everyone who has responded to my posts. These forums are very
> helpful and provide a lot of insite and guidance...
>
> Regarding these AD's it amazes me that the manufacturer is not liable. I
> have always heard of the huge amounts of liability that
> manufacturers take in the aviation field yet they are not held responsible
> for these blantantly defective parts in most of the issued
> AD's... very strange.
>
> - Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:07:12 -0800
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Troubling Airworthiness Directive...
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
>>
>>
>> matt(at)n559rv.com wrote:
>> >
>> > How often do people get AD's that cost them thousands of dollars on a
>> whim? At least with cars they are recalls and the manufacturer
>> > picks up the cost of replacement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do a search on the 400 series Cessna wing spar AD.
>>
>> $60,000 out of every owners pocket because Cessna did a theoretical
>> study that contains "confidential data not available to the public"
>>
>> No reimbursement by Cessna, all out of the owners pocket. It affects
>> so many planes it will take Cessna 5 years to mfg all the kits.
>>
>> --------
>> Milt
>> N395V
>> F1 Rocket
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7251#7251
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| Subject: | Re: Advanced Flight Systems AF2500 Engine Monitor - Fuel Flow |
Sensor
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I have an afp fuel pump in my 6 and think you would not even know if your
sending unit was mounted in front of it. You cant really get your foot in
there anyway.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: RV-List: Advanced Flight Systems AF2500 Engine Monitor - Fuel Flow
Sensor
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> I just got my fuel flow sensor for my AF2500 Engine Monitor and
> I'm wondering on the best place/way to mount it.
>
> (The sensor is an Electronics International Inc (Bend, Orgeon)
> Model FT-60.)
>
> I'm building a 9 (same fuse more-or-less as the 7). I'm
> putting in an IO-320 from Aerosport. Plans have you run the
> fuel feed line from the AFP high pressure pump below the tank
> selector valve to the firewall between the center floor
> stiffeners.
>
> There's not a whole lot of room in there and the latest style
> sensor is rectangular block of red anodized aluminum measuring
> some 1.25 x 1.25 x 2". I believe the preferred method is to
> mount it with the wires exiting the top - which means the
> mounting bolts would be vertical.
>
> Anyone out there have experience with this sensor ? Did you
> locate it in the cabin floor tunnel forward of the pump ? Did
> you bolt it to the floor, or glue it ?
>
> __g__
>
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Anyone near IKK, Kankakee IL |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Im about to lease a very nice hangar down in IKK with heat and water. I have an
aero lift and am thinking about sharing the hangar with another rv builder.
Anyone interested?
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I have not been able to find Mo-gas on trips, I just settle for 100LL Lean her
out and try to burn off the lead before you park it, Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Service variations - Intercom |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Over the period of nearly two years I have generally been very impressed
with the high level of service from Vans and other American suppliers.
Best of all was Hooker, who when told that I was in a rush to get my RV8
flying for its test programme, initially quoted me 10 days to make my
harness selection. However, they pulled out all the stops and made and
despatched my choice of harnesses so that they arrived here in England just
three days after the order was placed. Absolutely fantastic.
At the other end of the scale, Aircraft Spruce.
I recently ordered a new Sigtronics 200S intercom and face plate from ACS
and asked for special delivery. I was told that the goods would be
despatched by the end of the week in question. A week after that I was
concerned that the intercom had been mislaid in transit so I rang to get a
tracking number. After five international calls and several emails I was
told that the goods would take up to another few weeks as Spruce would have
to place a minimum order of 3,000 dollars with Sigtronics. They didn't have
the courtesy to let me know the situation and left me completely in the
lurch - the worst service in the last two years of building my RV.
I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I am
at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate
that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ?
Thanks, Nic
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I have not been able to find Mo-gas on trips, I just settle for 100LL
> Lean her out and try to burn off the lead before you park it, Charlie
> Heathco
If you normally run mogas but you have to run 100LL when
mogas is not available, you could put a little "lead scavenger"
in with the 100LL. Here's a good one:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/Decalin.php
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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CC: Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk
| Subject: | Re: Service variations - Intercom |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I am
> at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate
> that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ?
Hi Nic,
There seem to be a lot of people that sell sigtronics
stuff:
http://www.sigtronics.com/air/dealer.html
At the bottom you'll find web sales companies.
Not sure which model you are looking for, but
if you are flexible, you might check with
http://www.steinair.com/ for a PS Engineering
intercom. He's a good guy to deal with.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Service variations - Intercom |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mauri Morin" <maurv8@bresnan.net>
Nic
Check out Chief Aircraft and the P S Enigineering PMA4000. I've always had
good service from Chief here in the US
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/
Mauri
RV-8 fuse
---- Original Message -----
From: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: RV-List: Service variations - Intercom
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Over the period of nearly two years I have generally been very impressed
> with the high level of service from Vans and other American suppliers.
>
> Best of all was Hooker, who when told that I was in a rush to get my RV8
> flying for its test programme, initially quoted me 10 days to make my
> harness selection. However, they pulled out all the stops and made and
> despatched my choice of harnesses so that they arrived here in England
> just
> three days after the order was placed. Absolutely fantastic.
>
> At the other end of the scale, Aircraft Spruce.
>
> I recently ordered a new Sigtronics 200S intercom and face plate from ACS
> and asked for special delivery. I was told that the goods would be
> despatched by the end of the week in question. A week after that I was
> concerned that the intercom had been mislaid in transit so I rang to get a
> tracking number. After five international calls and several emails I was
> told that the goods would take up to another few weeks as Spruce would
> have
> to place a minimum order of 3,000 dollars with Sigtronics. They didn't
> have
> the courtesy to let me know the situation and left me completely in the
> lurch - the worst service in the last two years of building my RV.
>
> I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I
> am
> at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate
> that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ?
>
> Thanks, Nic
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Service variations - Intercom |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Nic wrote:
>At the other end of the scale, Aircraft Spruce.
>
>I recently ordered a new Sigtronics 200S intercom and face plate from ACS
>and asked for special delivery. I was told that the goods would be
>despatched by the end of the week in question. A week after that I was
>concerned that the intercom had been mislaid in transit so I rang to get a
>tracking number. After five international calls and several emails I was
>told that the goods would take up to another few weeks as Spruce would have
>to place a minimum order of 3,000 dollars with Sigtronics. They didn't have
>the courtesy to let me know the situation and left me completely in the
>lurch - the worst service in the last two years of building my RV.
>
>I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I am
>at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate
>that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ?
>
>Thanks, Nic
>
>
>
Typical service from ACS "IMO" in my dealings with them.
do not archve
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| Subject: | Re: Service variations - Intercom |
Cc: Nic <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
--> RV-List message posted by: chaztuna@adelphia.net
Nic,
Check out Flightcom's 403d unit. Both of these units are stereo intercoms. See
http://www.flightcom.net/pdf/English/prodsheet_403d%20Stereo%20Panel%20Mount.pdf
http://www.flightcom.net/intercoms/403d-intercom.php
or the less expensive 403
http://www.flightcom.net/intercoms/403-intercom.php
http://www.flightcom.net/pdf/English/prodsheet_403%20Panel%20Mount.pdf
There are many excellent vendors for these units here in the States. Two good ones
on the East Coast I've had good luck with are:
http://www.gulf-coast-avionics.com/detail.asp?id=4540
http://www.tropicaero.com/intercoms.asp
Both the above vendors stock a complete line of both Sigtronics and Flightcom.
Both stand behind their products. When I purchased my 403d, I got a great deal
from
http://www.affordablepanels.com/
Good luck
Charlie Kuss
---- Nic <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Over the period of nearly two years I have generally been very impressed
> with the high level of service from Vans and other American suppliers.
>
> Best of all was Hooker, who when told that I was in a rush to get my RV8
> flying for its test programme, initially quoted me 10 days to make my
> harness selection. However, they pulled out all the stops and made and
> despatched my choice of harnesses so that they arrived here in England just
> three days after the order was placed. Absolutely fantastic.
>
> At the other end of the scale, Aircraft Spruce.
>
> I recently ordered a new Sigtronics 200S intercom and face plate from ACS
> and asked for special delivery. I was told that the goods would be
> despatched by the end of the week in question. A week after that I was
> concerned that the intercom had been mislaid in transit so I rang to get a
> tracking number. After five international calls and several emails I was
> told that the goods would take up to another few weeks as Spruce would have
> to place a minimum order of 3,000 dollars with Sigtronics. They didn't have
> the courtesy to let me know the situation and left me completely in the
> lurch - the worst service in the last two years of building my RV.
>
> I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I am
> at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate
> that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ?
>
> Thanks, Nic
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Karlsberg <claypride@hotmail.com>
Somehow when I read "Drill all rib attach holes to #30" I drilled the holes
on top of the flange of HS-702 (that connect HS-708) too. My skin
(HS-601PP) is drilled to #40. The plan says use a "AN26AD3-4 to HS-601PP to
HS-702 to HS708" This can't be right! Any suggestions on how I can fix
this dilemma?
Thanks in advance.
David Karlsberg
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
If I under stand your problem correctly, you can use "oops" rivets (AD4 size shank
and AD3 size head). Lots of sources, including Avery and I think Van's has
them in the catalog now.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 170 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: David Karlsberg <claypride@hotmail.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: David Karlsberg <claypride@hotmail.com>
>
> Somehow when I read "Drill all rib attach holes to #30" I drilled the holes
> on top of the flange of HS-702 (that connect HS-708) too. My skin
> (HS-601PP) is drilled to #40. The plan says use a "AN26AD3-4 to HS-601PP to
> HS-702 to HS708" This can't be right! Any suggestions on how I can fix
> this dilemma?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> David Karlsberg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Service variations - Intercom |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> Typical service from ACS "IMO" in my dealings with them.
>
Lest you forget, ACS monitors this list for folks who talk down ACS. I've
gotten notes from Mr. Jim, himself, trying to win my business back. They
don't want this kind of negative advertising; but, they don't seem to change
enough to prevent it. I quit buying from ACS, some time ago, because of the
poor service. Being the biggest does not mean the bestest. Now, I use
Wicks for most of my hardware and other suppliers for other things.
Amazingly, I've not found anything I need that I can't find somewhere else.
Well, I do like their catalog.
Jim Sears in KY
do not archve
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| Subject: | Re: "Excess" Energy use! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:43:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
N395V@direcway.com writes:
Vanremog(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Some of us also need a Starbuck's Venti Iced Mocha to put in it.
>
> Do not archive unless future anthropologists need this information to
> analyze our downfall.
>
> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 771hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
Wait Wait please archive I am already starting the analysis.
=====================================
The analysis has already been done and the answer is 42.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 771hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: David Karlsberg
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:14 PM
Subject: RV-List: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help
--> RV-List message posted by: David Karlsberg claypride@hotmail.com
I'm not familiar with these exact parts, but assuming it's just a flange, and edge
distances are okay,
they make the "cheater" rivets which fit in the #30 hole but have the smaller head
size of the AN26AD3
rivets. You can buy a small kit, that contains various cheater rivet sizes. There
is a structural limitation to these
rivets due to the smaller head, so it's something to keep in mind, as I don't know
how many holes you need to fix.
Somehow when I read "Drill all rib attach holes to #30" I drilled the holes
on top of the flange of HS-702 (that connect HS-708) too. My skin
(HS-601PP) is drilled to #40. The plan says use a "AN26AD3-4 to HS-601PP to
HS-702 to HS708" This can't be right! Any suggestions on how I can fix
this dilemma?
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| Subject: | [ Michael Kosta ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Michael Kosta <mikel@dimensional.com>
Lists: RV-List,RV4-List,RV8-List
Subject: RV-4 panel and radio console
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/mikel@dimensional.com.01.28.2006/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
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4) One line Subject description:
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Cc: "RV-list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter11@sbcglobal.net>
Someone else asked about scratching the canopy:
. . . If visor is down in front of you, then a piece of soft leather or
similar on top of helmet protects canopy.
. . . If visor is up, then it will contact canopy - so, one might want to
put a bit (1 foot square or diameter) of "cling plastic" on canopy above
where your head will be. Lots of folks already have sun barriers above
them, which would protect the plexi.
Brian, my helmet simply has a snap on each side for attaching the elastic
strap on the visor. I can unsnap the clear and snap on the colored visor
when needed. I use the clear most of the time, for bird protection, with
sunglasses underneath when needed, so don't really need the tinted visor.
In combat in 1967 up "north" in Package 6, one day I told myself the visor
was bulletproof - I no longer suffered anxiety rolling in on a heavily
defended tgt. Prior to that I worried a bit about a 37 or 57mm in the face.
Piece of cake after I put on my bullet proof visor. Now the biggest threat
is buzzards, snow geese, and other large "mm" birds. Visor is real
protection in event of a birdstrike, not just make believe.
I just had 3M tinted window film (thin sheet of plastic) on my windows on
the Gulf Coast last summer - makes the windows rather "hurricane proof".
The website tells of a company putting these films on windows of a mobile
home "office" at some petro-chemical plant construction site - 3 days or so
later, there was a big explosion - trailer was blown over on its side but
windows were intact.
. . . I'm going to consider experimenting with that stuff on the front part
of my RV-6 tip-up canopy for bird resistance.
Hey, we are on the "Lectric list" - Sorry for being "off topic". Will Cc:
the RV list.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: helmet (was: Why use starter contactor
(fire))
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>
> Mickey Coggins wrote:
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins
>> <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>>
>> Brian Lloyd wrote:
>>> 8. you can paint stuff on it to look really cool or really stupid
>>> depending on who's looking.
>>
>> Now you're talkin'! :-) It sounds like you've got a nice
>> helmet. Which brand/model do you use? I've seen a lot of
>> nice ones on the web, but I never wanted to buy one without
>> trying it on. I really can't recall any helmets on sale
>> at the last few SNFs or OSH, but perhaps I overlooked them.
>
> I bought mine at Flight Suits, Ltd. (http://www.flightsuits.com/) They
> usually have a booth at OSH. I don't know about SnF.
>
> I have an HGU-33 with a single visor. (I wish I had the dual visor.)
>
> The trick is to get Flight Suits to provide the helmet, earspeakers, and
> mic wiring. Get the helmet fit-kit from Oregon Aero. Their approach to
> the liner and earspeakers is quieter and more comfortable. I can wear my
> helmet literally all day long and never feel uncomfortable.
>
> Get the super-duper noise-canceling mic from Sigtronics.
>
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
> brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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| Subject: | Audio Panel for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Nice used Audio Panel on eBay, PS Engineering PMA6000.
_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4608171880_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4608171880)
Do not archive. Thanx.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Liability Insurance. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com>
HI;
Would appreciate some ideas, concerning the Liability Insurance, for the
RV6A
I know there are no many companies these days.
The idea is which compnay, reliable one, would have best rates?
Any thing under $1,200...
Thanks
bert
rv6a
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Fly n Low" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
My helmet is made out of soft leather. I don't get it.
Bud Silvers
RV - 8 finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Carter
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:24 PM
Cc: RV-list
Subject: RV-List: helmet issues
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter11@sbcglobal.net>
Someone else asked about scratching the canopy:
. . . If visor is down in front of you, then a piece of soft leather or
similar on top of helmet protects canopy.
. . . If visor is up, then it will contact canopy - so, one might want to
put a bit (1 foot square or diameter) of "cling plastic" on canopy above
where your head will be. Lots of folks already have sun barriers above
them, which would protect the plexi.
Brian, my helmet simply has a snap on each side for attaching the elastic
strap on the visor. I can unsnap the clear and snap on the colored visor
when needed. I use the clear most of the time, for bird protection, with
sunglasses underneath when needed, so don't really need the tinted visor.
In combat in 1967 up "north" in Package 6, one day I told myself the visor
was bulletproof - I no longer suffered anxiety rolling in on a heavily
defended tgt. Prior to that I worried a bit about a 37 or 57mm in the face.
Piece of cake after I put on my bullet proof visor. Now the biggest threat
is buzzards, snow geese, and other large "mm" birds. Visor is real
protection in event of a birdstrike, not just make believe.
I just had 3M tinted window film (thin sheet of plastic) on my windows on
the Gulf Coast last summer - makes the windows rather "hurricane proof".
The website tells of a company putting these films on windows of a mobile
home "office" at some petro-chemical plant construction site - 3 days or so
later, there was a big explosion - trailer was blown over on its side but
windows were intact.
. . . I'm going to consider experimenting with that stuff on the front part
of my RV-6 tip-up canopy for bird resistance.
Hey, we are on the "Lectric list" - Sorry for being "off topic". Will Cc:
the RV list.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: helmet (was: Why use starter contactor
(fire))
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian-yak@lloyd.com>
>
>
> Mickey Coggins wrote:
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins
>> <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>>
>> Brian Lloyd wrote:
>>> 8. you can paint stuff on it to look really cool or really stupid
>>> depending on who's looking.
>>
>> Now you're talkin'! :-) It sounds like you've got a nice
>> helmet. Which brand/model do you use? I've seen a lot of
>> nice ones on the web, but I never wanted to buy one without
>> trying it on. I really can't recall any helmets on sale
>> at the last few SNFs or OSH, but perhaps I overlooked them.
>
> I bought mine at Flight Suits, Ltd. (http://www.flightsuits.com/) They
> usually have a booth at OSH. I don't know about SnF.
>
> I have an HGU-33 with a single visor. (I wish I had the dual visor.)
>
> The trick is to get Flight Suits to provide the helmet, earspeakers, and
> mic wiring. Get the helmet fit-kit from Oregon Aero. Their approach to
> the liner and earspeakers is quieter and more comfortable. I can wear my
> helmet literally all day long and never feel uncomfortable.
>
> Get the super-duper noise-canceling mic from Sigtronics.
>
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 2243 Cattle Dr.
> brian-yak at lloyd dot com Folsom, CA 95630
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
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| Subject: | Re: Liability Insurance. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
There is no such thing as best rates. You should have liability insurance
IMO. Rates vary with your recent experience in like type. It is very
uncompetitive. You go with what ever you can live with as far as their
qualifying conditions dictate. That is what I found six months ago. I am
not unhappy in saying this. It is just the way it is. I flew the first 40
hours without insurance because I would not spend a small fortune to meet
their qualifying conditions. I flew carefully when good conditions were
present. My first flights were from a remote airport with lots of farm
ground around it. And flat terrain. I did not fly into Oshkosh, for
example. Anything we can do to minimize chances of filing a claim reduces
everyone's cost as I see it. From my perspective the cost of insurance
seems higher than it should be. However, The insurance companies know their
costs in writing coverage and I do not. Too many lawyers is part of the
problem maybe. But that is the way it is. So, Fly safe. do not archive.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker 80 hours
"Please use the information and opinions I express with responsibility, and
at your own risk."
Subject: RV-List: Liability Insurance.
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com>
>
> HI;
>
> Would appreciate some ideas, concerning the Liability Insurance, for the
> RV6A
> I know there are no many companies these days.
>
>
> The idea is which compnay, reliable one, would have best rates?
>
> Any thing under $1,200...
>
> Thanks
>
> bert
>
> rv6a
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
David Karlsberg wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: David Karlsberg <claypride@hotmail.com>
>
>Somehow when I read "Drill all rib attach holes to #30" I drilled the holes
>on top of the flange of HS-702 (that connect HS-708) too. My skin
>(HS-601PP) is drilled to #40. The plan says use a "AN26AD3-4 to HS-601PP to
>HS-702 to HS708" This can't be right! Any suggestions on how I can fix
>this dilemma?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>David Karlsberg
>
Aren't the HS-702 flanges dimpled? (I hate the numbers on the
instructions with no name; I've got really short memory with part #'s.)
Assuming adequate edge distance & dimples on everything, the simplest
thing to do is drill the skin #30, dimple, & use an426ad4-4 rivets. Buck
carefully on the thin skin, but it should work fine; some of the older
designs use ad4's for skins.
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| Subject: | Liability Insurance. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Bert:
There are not that many companies writting insurance for experimentals. My
recommendation is get quotes and compare. I use NationAir. If you do not
like them, try Falcon. I forget exactly what I pay but I think it is very
reasonable for the $1 Million US / $100K per person that I pay. Yes I am
tailwheel and have lots of tailwheel time. I find the somewhere between
$307 and $311 that I pay cheap. I pay almost 4 times that to have full
coverage on my California licensed 2003 GMC Sonoma and do not have anything
near the liability coverage that my airplane has.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,838 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Liability Insurance.
--> RV-List message posted by: Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com>
HI;
Would appreciate some ideas, concerning the Liability Insurance, for the
RV6A
I know there are no many companies these days.
The idea is which compnay, reliable one, would have best rates?
Any thing under $1,200...
Thanks
bert
rv6a
do not archive
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| Subject: | Langley Fly-in 2006 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
This year's Langley, BC fly-in will be held on Saturday, June 24. This is the
annual fly-in for VAF Western Canada Wing. Details are on the RV Wiki, at
http://www.rvwiki.org/index.php?title=Langley_Fly-in_2006
This page will continue to evolve as details of the fly-in become known.
Hope to see you there!
---
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force - Western Canada Wing
www.vansairforce.org
tedd@vansairforce.org
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | 1st rivet's confussion |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan <dan@rdan.com>
Just wanted to check, I ready to rivet the HS spar to the stiffners and brackets,
do the Rivets go from foward to aft, spar to stiffner, thin to thick , shop head
on the (thicker) stiffner, (aft)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: 1st rivet's confussion |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Yuo are correct. The general rule for riveting is that the shop head
goes on the thicker material, unless the plans indicate otherwise.
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Dan,
Riveting the shop head on the (thicker) stiffer structure is the preferred
way to go. Putting the shop head on the thicker material avoids or reduces
local area distortion that might occur on the thinner material, You might
occasionally find it won't work out that way due to assembly stages or
access with the rivet gun or bucking bar.
The forward, aft, top and bottom orientation consideration is used more in
reference to nuts and bolts etc. Supposedly if the nut or lock pin, clip
etc, falls away, the bolt will remain in place a while attempting to do it's
job. {[;-?
Are ya Havin fun yet?
Jim in Kelowna - Putting the wings on the 6a
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan" <dan@rdan.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: RV-List: 1st rivet's confussion
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dan <dan@rdan.com>
>
> Just wanted to check, I ready to rivet the HS spar to the stiffners and
> brackets,
> do the Rivets go from foward to aft, spar to stiffner, thin to thick ,
> shop head on the (thicker) stiffner, (aft)
> Thanks
>
>
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