---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/29/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:30 AM - Re: Service variations - Intercom (Bob) 2. 06:09 AM - Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help (Mark Grieve) 3. 06:14 AM - SL-30 side tone problem (Steve Struyk) 4. 06:30 AM - Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help () 5. 06:51 AM - Re: SL-30 side tone problem (Dan Checkoway) 6. 08:42 AM - Re: 1st rivet's confussion (Rob Prior (rv7)) 7. 03:57 PM - RV Wiki FAQ (Tedd McHenry) 8. 04:57 PM - Re: RV Wiki FAQ (LarryRobertHelming) 9. 05:47 PM - Re: RV Wiki FAQ (Charlie England) 10. 08:55 PM - Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! (Matt Dralle) 11. 08:58 PM - Re: SL-30 side tone problem (Jeff Dowling) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:39 AM PST US From: Bob Subject: Re: RV-List: Service variations - Intercom --> RV-List message posted by: Bob Yes I agree that Hooker is great. However I can see the problem ACS has, if it is not in stock then they have to order it, not good for us. On the other hand I have ordered stuff from Van's and had to wait over six months to get it (aerobatic motor mounts). Sunday night I ordered some parts from ACS and I received them Wedensday USPS. I don't know how they could get much quicker, unless I paid the overnight freight. Last order from Van's was 10 days, which is significantly faster than the 17 days when I was building. I ordered my intercom from Stark Avionics, and had him make the wiring harness for my radios. Of course custom building a wiring harness takes some time. I wired the rest of my aircraft, but I am sure glad I had the intercom harness built by someone else. Bob RV6 NightFighter At 11:43 AM 1/28/06, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Nic" > >Over the period of nearly two years I have generally been very impressed >with the high level of service from Vans and other American suppliers. > >Best of all was Hooker, who when told that I was in a rush to get my RV8 >flying for its test programme, initially quoted me 10 days to make my >harness selection. However, they pulled out all the stops and made and >despatched my choice of harnesses so that they arrived here in England just >three days after the order was placed. Absolutely fantastic. > >At the other end of the scale, Aircraft Spruce. > >I recently ordered a new Sigtronics 200S intercom and face plate from ACS >and asked for special delivery. I was told that the goods would be >despatched by the end of the week in question. A week after that I was >concerned that the intercom had been mislaid in transit so I rang to get a >tracking number. After five international calls and several emails I was >told that the goods would take up to another few weeks as Spruce would have >to place a minimum order of 3,000 dollars with Sigtronics. They didn't have >the courtesy to let me know the situation and left me completely in the >lurch - the worst service in the last two years of building my RV. > >I don't think that I can place the order directly with Sigtronics - so I am >at a loss as I urgently need a suitable 2 place intercom with a face plate >that will fit a 21/4" hole in my existing panel - any suggestions please ? > >Thanks, Nic ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:46 AM PST US From: Mark Grieve Subject: Re: RV-List: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve David, Just rivet it up with 4-4s. Work carefully and you will be fine. I have a second hand RV-7 empanage kit and the whole Vertical stab was drilled with #30. I took my time and only had to drill out a couple. MG David Karlsberg wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: David Karlsberg > > Somehow when I read "Drill all rib attach holes to #30" I drilled the holes > on top of the flange of HS-702 (that connect HS-708) too. My skin > (HS-601PP) is drilled to #40. The plan says use a "AN26AD3-4 to HS-601PP to > HS-702 to HS708" This can't be right! Any suggestions on how I can fix > this dilemma? > > Thanks in advance. > > > David Karlsberg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:24 AM PST US From: "Steve Struyk" Subject: RV-List: SL-30 side tone problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" Anybody have any ideas about what's going on? My avionics have worked like a charm until about two flight hours ago. The side tone on my SL-30 went from normal, to incredibly loud. It still transmits and receives well, but the side tone is so loud, it's uncomfortable. It's installed as the second Nav/Com, number one is a 300XL, it works great. Steve Struyk RV-8, N842S St. Charles, MO 18.8 Hrs (still grinnin') ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:26 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Re: Drilled the wrong hole in my hs help --> RV-List message posted by: A new builder myself, I have found it very useful to read through the steps several times before committing a drill to anything. Analyzing the drawings over and over as well. As a rule of thumb, skin attachments are USUALLY drilled to #40 (unless otherwise specified). If you are not 100% sure about something, re-read the step while looking closely at the plans over and over until you convince yourself that you ARE 100% sure what you are about to do is correct. If you still are not sure, ask for help BEFORE drilling. It will save you time and $ later on down the line. Dennis Roberts RV7 N35DR (reserved) Emp nearly complete / awaiting wing shipment Dennis@DRRV7.com http://www.DRRV7.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:42 AM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: SL-30 side tone problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" It's adjustable via the system menus (the manual covers it). Try adjusting it first, but if you have to crank it way down, like below 20, you might have an audio panel issue (assuming you have an audio panel). do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Struyk" Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:13 AM Subject: RV-List: SL-30 side tone problem > --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" > > Anybody have any ideas about what's going on? My avionics have worked like > a charm until about two flight hours ago. The side tone on my SL-30 went > from normal, to incredibly loud. It still transmits and receives well, but > the side tone is so loud, it's uncomfortable. It's installed as the second > Nav/Com, number one is a 300XL, it works great. > > Steve Struyk > RV-8, N842S > St. Charles, MO > 18.8 Hrs (still grinnin') > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:45 AM PST US From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" Subject: Re: RV-List: 1st rivet's confussion --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" On 18:55:04 2006-01-28 Jeff Point wrote: > Yuo are correct. The general rule for riveting is that the shop head > goes on the thicker material, unless the plans indicate otherwise. In this location, however, many people (myself included) opted to put the factory head on the stiffener side, since it's the side that will be visible (sort of) when the airplane is complete. The reason for putting the factory head on the thinner side is that when you form the shop head, you're more likely to stretch/deform the thinner material. In this case, it seems the thinner material doesn't stretch significantly when setting the rivet on that side. So the joint is equally strong either way. The builder's manual for my -7 says that while the norm is to put the factory head on the thinner material side, there have been no problems with putting the factory head on the thicker material side in this location. -Rob ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:57 PM PST US From: Tedd McHenry Subject: RV-List: RV Wiki FAQ --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry There are several blank articles on the RV Wiki frequently-asked-questions page that are crying out to have something added. If you have any knowledge or interest in any of these areas, please feel free to start an article. Airframe -------- Baggage capacity: what are my options for increasing it? Fuel tanks: should I slosh them or seal them? Smoking rivets: what do I do about them? Controls -------- Right stick left throttle: how can I do it? I have a physical disability, how can I modify my RV's controls so I can fly it? Electrics and Lighting ---------------------- Cockpit lighting: what are my choices? Landing lights: what are my options? Instruments and Avionics AOA gauges: are they worthwhile? Autopilots: which is best? Gyros and acro: do they mix? Painting -------- Primers: which should I use? Trim: decals or paint? Propellers Acro: which propeller is best? Pitch: can or should I change it? You'll find instructions on adding a new page here: http://www.rvwiki.org/index.php?title=Help:Starting_a_new_page and instructions on editing an existing page here: http://www.rvwiki.org/index.php?title=Help:Edit --- Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC, Canada DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:17 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Wiki FAQ --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" There are already lots of opinions and answers for the questions you bring up in your post below. I suggest you check the archives and get the best thought of hundreds who have gone before you. If after doing that you still have questions, I am sure you will get lots of answers if any questions still remain. http://www.matronics.com/search/ Indiana Larry ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry > > There are several blank articles on the RV Wiki frequently-asked-questions > page > that are crying out to have something added. If you have any knowledge or > interest in any of these areas, please feel free to start an article. > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:37 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Wiki FAQ --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England My read is that he wants concise writeups on those subjects for all to use, not advice on random subjects for himself. The wiki will be much more useful than this list for 'how-to' questions, because a searcher won't have to wade through literally 10's of thousands of messages to find an answer. Even using the search engine on the list, you still must read through dozens or even hundreds of 'me too', 'I agree', posts written about totally different subjects but with the wrong subject line, etc to get an answer. Wiki's are great tools once they are populated with data. Go prowl around Wikipedia & pick just about any subject of interest to see how useful they can be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page For instance, here's the entry for Van's Aircraft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van%27s_Aircraft See something that's incorrect? Register, then log in & correct it. Charlie LarryRobertHelming wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" > >There are already lots of opinions and answers for the questions you bring >up in your post below. I suggest you check the archives and get the best >thought of hundreds who have gone before you. If after doing that you still >have questions, I am sure you will get lots of answers if any questions >still remain. http://www.matronics.com/search/ > >Indiana Larry > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry >> >>There are several blank articles on the RV Wiki frequently-asked-questions >>page >>that are crying out to have something added. If you have any knowledge or >>interest in any of these areas, please feel free to start an article. >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:12 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the aviation line up at Matronics! 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:32 PM PST US From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: Re: RV-List: SL-30 side tone problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" Are both radios on the same freq? Sometimes this will cause all kinds of wacky results. Shemp/Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 235 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Struyk" Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: RV-List: SL-30 side tone problem > --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" > > Anybody have any ideas about what's going on? My avionics have worked like > a charm until about two flight hours ago. The side tone on my SL-30 went > from normal, to incredibly loud. It still transmits and receives well, but > the side tone is so loud, it's uncomfortable. It's installed as the second > Nav/Com, number one is a 300XL, it works great. > > Steve Struyk > RV-8, N842S > St. Charles, MO > 18.8 Hrs (still grinnin') > > >