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1. 05:07 AM - aileron trimming by squeezing question (RVer273sb@aol.com)
2. 05:32 AM - Re: Ameri-King AK-450 ELT - Remote Battery Included? (sheldon barrett)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question (Ed Anderson)
4. 06:55 AM - Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question (Kevin Horton)
5. 08:45 AM - Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. (Rob Prior (rv7))
6. 09:18 AM - Rudder Trim (Robin Marks)
7. 09:31 AM - Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. (David Burton)
8. 09:42 AM - Re: Rudder Trim (Ron Lee)
9. 09:42 AM - Re: DO NOT ARCHIVE (Jim Anglin)
10. 09:48 AM - Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question (Don Diehl)
11. 09:53 AM - Auto signature (Jim Anglin)
12. 10:23 AM - Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question (scott bilinski)
13. 10:31 AM - Re: Rudder Trim (Richard Dudley)
14. 10:43 AM - Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question (Terry Watson)
15. 11:42 AM - Re: Rudder Trim (Rick Galati)
16. 11:49 AM - Re: Rudder Trim (Robin Marks)
17. 12:47 PM - Garmin GMA 346 audio panel (Gerald Richardson)
18. 12:47 PM - Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. (Randy Lervold)
19. 01:19 PM - Re: Garmin GMA 346 audio panel (Ron Lee)
20. 02:03 PM - Great News FAA Medicals (Bert Murillo)
21. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: DO NOT ARCHIVE (and quoting too!) (linn Walters)
22. 04:43 PM - Re: Rudder Trim (Richard Dudley)
23. 07:19 PM - Re: Auto signature (Rick McCraw)
24. 11:42 PM - M T Props (Trevor Mills)
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| Subject: | aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner
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| Subject: | Re: Ameri-King AK-450 ELT - Remote Battery Included? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "sheldon barrett" <sheldonb@frontiernet.net>
Dave,
Yes, you are right... I was only guessing (I guess) about the one year...
However, when the FAA did the initial inspection on my bird, they told me my
D batteries were out of date per the sticker label on the AK-450... and
needs to be replaced every year at condition time and the sticker renewed...
So that's what I've been doing... gives me plenty of batteries laying around
for my flashlights... You might be right about the date on the batteries...
I needed to look at my 450 manual...
Thanks for waking me up....Sheldon
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Ameri-King AK-450 ELT - Remote Battery Included?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
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> Sheldon,
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> According to my manual, if the remote battery is lithium, it's only
> necessary to replace it every 8 years and if it's alkaline, every 4
> years. The main batteries must be date coded by the manufacturer and
> replaced by the date on the batteries. They recommend replacing the "D"
> cell main batteries every year but it's only mandatory by the date on
> the batteries.
>
> Dave, RV6 So Cal
> EAA Technical Counselor
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> sheldon barrett wrote:
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>>--> RV-List message posted by: "sheldon barrett"
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>>Tim,
>>Yes, it's already installed... and has to be re-newed every year...(per
>>instructions)... need to make it easy to get too...
>>Sheldon Barrett...RV6A 400 hours...
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>>From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com>;
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>>Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:40 AM
>>Subject: RV-List: Ameri-King AK-450 ELT - Remote Battery Included?
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>>>Can anyone tell me if the Lithium battery is included already in the
>>>remote on the AK-450 ELT? I have the remote unit installed and need
>>>to send someone shopping for batteries for the ELT today and I'm
>>>not sure if I need to send them out for the 1 DL 1/3 NB Lithium AND the
>>>D-Cell batteries, or if the lithium is already in the remote....which
>>>is mounted in a hard to reach area from the back.
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| Subject: | Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
That's correct, Stewart. Gently squeeze the trailing edge aileron of the
light wing. I simply used the pliers with the wide lips with some cloth to
prevent scratching the paint. I would squeeze a small amount and then move
it down the full length of the aileron doing the same. Then I repeated the
process. Did it three times. I didn't want to distort the metal by trying
to squeeze it down all the way in one location the first time. Did just a
little bit each location before moving the plyers.
I did it on my right wing (Left wing heavy) and it complete corrected the
problem. I suggest to do it in stages so that it's not over done.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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From: <RVer273sb@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: RV-List: aileron trimming by squeezing question
> --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
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> Listers,
> Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
> rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
> Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
> of the light wing. Correct???
> Thank you, Stewart Bergner
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 5 Feb 2006, at 07:59, RVer273sb@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
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> Listers,
> Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
> rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
> Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
> of the light wing. Correct???
> Thank you, Stewart Bergner
Van's has a useful document on this subject. It should be read
before you do anything, as there may be other causes for the heavy
wing, and you ideally would attack the root cause, rather than just
treat the symptoms:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 17:59:14 2006-02-04 David Karlsberg <claypride@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 2. How much of this stuff do I use? I usually have to spray every
> part twice to get all the pieces covered. I have already gone
> through a can just on the HS.
I'm on my second rattle can, and i'm not finished the empennage yet. And
i'm not priming the skins (other than the lines where the ribs contact
them). Full coverage on ribs and non-alclad parts, though.
A Sherwin-Williams rep that used to be a member of our flying club told me
that the best way to apply it is to put on two or three very light coats to
obtain the best coverage and adhesion. Almost a "dusting" of paint each
time. It's worked fine so far, and I haven't had the problem that some
others seem to with the paint sometimes flaking off. Prepping with
Sher-Wil-Clean, which is the recommended prep for this paint.
> 4. Am I supposed to shake the can before I spray?
You're supposed to read the directions on the can, which say to shake it
for something like two minutes after the ball comes free from the bottom of
the can. Before spraying. I shake the can between sprays too, just to be
sure. If you haven't been shaking it at all, that's why you're getting
uneven colour and texture in your results.
For what it's worth, i'll be switching to Marhyde when I finish the SW can
i'm using now. The people who have used both seem to agree that Marhyde
provides a tougher, more durable finish. Not so important on the inside of
your airplane once it's finished, perhaps, but it might be while you're
handling the parts during assembly.
-Rob
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
I have a 6A with no Rudder Trim. I have seen foam style wedges that are
applied to the lifting surface to act as fixed trim surfaces. I do not
know what the material is, what the best angles are and how they are
affixed onto the surface. I assume this has been discussed at length in
the archives. Can anyone give me a lead to what they are called as I
have looked in the archives but I don't think I am searching the proper
terms and there are a lot of listings on trim?
Thanks,
Robin
RV-6A - Needs Right Rudder
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> For what it's worth, i'll be switching to Marhyde when I finish the SW can
> i'm using now. The people who have used both seem to agree that Marhyde
> provides a tougher, more durable finish. Not so important on the inside
> of
> your airplane once it's finished, perhaps, but it might be while you're
> handling the parts during assembly.
>
> -Rob
FWIW, I started with a can of Marhyde (I like their products BTW) to use
when I needed to spritz a part and didn't want to mix up some primer to
spray. I bought a can of GBP when I needed another can on advice from
others on the list and like it better. That said, I'd buy a can of Marhyde
if there was some reason I couldn't get the GBP...
Dave B
RV6
B
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I have a 6A with no Rudder Trim. I have seen foam style wedges that are
>applied to the lifting surface to act as fixed trim surfaces. I do not
>know what the material is, what the best angles are and how they are
>affixed onto the surface. I assume this has been discussed at length in
>the archives. Can anyone give me a lead to what they are called as I
>have looked in the archives but I don't think I am searching the proper
>terms and there are a lot of listings on trim?
I just cut a piece of ordinary foam, perhaps two inches long at my
eye-balled engineered angle and duct taped it on. It is temporary
until I decide what I really want.
I could get 3M double-sided tape, make it out of fiberglass, etc
but that will come later. It works for now.
Ron Lee
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: DO NOT ARCHIVE |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
A very simple solution to this problem is to build a signature file and add it
to all emails to the list automatically that contains the phrase DO NOT ARCHIVE.
Then if the author has something worthwhile to contribute that might be
valuable to future generations delete the phrase DO NOT ARCHIVE .
And PLEASE stop quoting the messages in your reply. I don't believe there is anyone
here who will not know what you are talking about when reading your reply
post. It is redundant, and stupid to believe that a message needs to be included
in a reply as long as the subject line is correct.
jim (do i need to add do not archive ?)
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| Subject: | Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@comcast.net>
My fix for a slightly heavy right wing was an aileron trim tab.
The "tab" is a wooden wedge from the hardware store, intended to
secure the head to a sledge hammer.
I bonded it on using double back tape, test flew it, trimmed it for
neutral roll, painted it then bonded it with a dab or epoxy.
It's on the underside of the left aileron, unobtrusive and completely
effective.
Later I installed Van's aileron trim kit and think I should have done
that first.
BTW, my fix for a half-ball yaw caused by my imperfect installation
of gear leg fairings was to align the fairings using washers stacked
to 1/8 inch between the trailing edge of the fairings and the bracket
on the fuselage.
Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA
Do not archive
On Feb 5, 2006, at 04:5957, RVer273sb@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
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> Listers,
> Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
> rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
> Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
> of the light wing. Correct???
> Thank you, Stewart Bergner
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Here is an example of a signature added automatically. I use OE in WXP Pro. You
can create a signature by going to tools, options, signatures. I think you
can figure out the rest. While you are doing this uncheck the box under the
send tab that says include message in reply.
:-)
Jim Anglin
HR II N144HR
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
I have found that the aileron brackets have not been installed exactly the same
for what ever reason and one end of the aileron hangs lower than the other.
Go here:
http://www.rvproject.com/20050508.html
Don Diehl <diehldon@comcast.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl
My fix for a slightly heavy right wing was an aileron trim tab.
The "tab" is a wooden wedge from the hardware store, intended to
secure the head to a sledge hammer.
I bonded it on using double back tape, test flew it, trimmed it for
neutral roll, painted it then bonded it with a dab or epoxy.
It's on the underside of the left aileron, unobtrusive and completely
effective.
Later I installed Van's aileron trim kit and think I should have done
that first.
BTW, my fix for a half-ball yaw caused by my imperfect installation
of gear leg fairings was to align the fairings using washers stacked
to 1/8 inch between the trailing edge of the fairings and the bracket
on the fuselage.
Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA
Do not archive
On Feb 5, 2006, at 04:5957, RVer273sb@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
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> Listers,
> Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
> rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
> Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
> of the light wing. Correct???
> Thank you, Stewart Bergner
Scott Bilinski
RV-8a
cell 858-395-5094
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Brings words and photos together (easily) with
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Hi Robin,
I have not seen any dimensions or specifications in postings on the
list. I have seen lots of RVs with wedges on the left side of their
rudders. They often are made of aluminum or wood. When I began testing
my -6A there was and obvious need for rudder trim. My solution was
trailing edge balsa made for model airplanes that I found at a hobby
shop. My procedure was to cut an arbitrary length of this material as a
starting point. I believe that I started with 10 inches. I taped it onto
the left trailing edge with the thickest part of the wedge aft using
duct tape. The 10 inches turned out to be too much. So, I cut it in half
and tried again. After several iterations, I ended up with about 6
inches length. I then finished a 6" length with the paint I used on the
plane and attached it with double stick foam tape. It has been in place
for about 60 hours and the ball is in the center at cruise speeds.
Hope this helps.
Richard Dudley
-6A 75 hours
Robin Marks wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
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>I have a 6A with no Rudder Trim. I have seen foam style wedges that are
>applied to the lifting surface to act as fixed trim surfaces. I do not
>know what the material is, what the best angles are and how they are
>affixed onto the surface. I assume this has been discussed at length in
>the archives. Can anyone give me a lead to what they are called as I
>have looked in the archives but I don't think I am searching the proper
>terms and there are a lot of listings on trim?
>
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>Thanks,
>
>Robin
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>RV-6A - Needs Right Rudder
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>Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | aileron trimming by squeezing question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Stewart,
Here's a link to Van's instructions:
http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf
Terry
Listers,
Need to fix a slightly heavy right wing on a new
rocket. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Seems one should squeeze the trailing edge
of the light wing. Correct???
Thank you, Stewart Bergner
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Robin Marks wrote:
> I have a 6A with no Rudder Trim. I have seen foam style wedges that are
> applied to the lifting surface to act as fixed trim surfaces. I do not
> know what the material is, what the best angles are and how they are
> affixed onto the surface. I assume this has been discussed at length in
> the archives. Can anyone give me a lead to what they are called as I
> have looked in the archives but I don't think I am searching the proper
> terms and there are a lot of listings on trim?Thanks, Robin RV-6A - Needs Right
Rudder Do Not Archive
Robin
Here is the link and the description of wedge I use with great success.
http://www.epm-avcorp.com/trimtabinst.html
Here is a detail photograph of my installation:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=26694#post26694
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10212#10212
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
Richard,
Thanks, that helps a lot. Did you place the trim high on the
rudder, low on the rudder? (seems like I have see them on the lower
section below the horz. stab) Did you place it perpendicular to the
horizon or running along the trailing edge?
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Garmin GMA 346 audio panel |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Does anyone have a copy of the Garmin GMA 347 audio panel
installation and operational manual.
Also what experiences have you had with it.
Any comments on the duplex telephone interface
Thanks
Gerald Richardson
Medicine Hat, Alberta
Canada
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02/04/2006
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| Subject: | Re: Sherwin williams GBP-988 question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
> For what it's worth, i'll be switching to Marhyde when I finish the SW can
> i'm using now. The people who have used both seem to agree that Marhyde
> provides a tougher, more durable finish.
Having used both products I'd agree with this assessment. But I prefer SEM
to them both in terms of both the finish it leaves and its durability. To
those that apply the primer without first Scothbriting the surface, no
question it does NOT adhere as well. Dip your Scotchbrite pad in your
solvent of choice when scuffing and you degrease at the same time. Here's my
two cents worth...
http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/Airframe/airframe.htm#Primer
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin GMA 346 audio panel |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
See if this link works:
http://www2.mstewart.net:8080/Downloads/howtogetagarminmanual.htm
>Does anyone have a copy of the Garmin GMA 347 audio panel
>installation and operational manual.
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| Subject: | Great News FAA Medicals |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com>
Hi:
I want to share the recent news, that medical examiners, will be
permitted to reissue
3rd. class medical certificates, for pilots with Cardiovascular conditions.
(list 5 conditions) you take all documents to the AME he or she will issue
the certificate.
The article is too long, but I encourage every one interested, to go to Aopa
on line,
\and read it..this will start in early 2006...
As I have said before, AOPA really works for General Aviation and they have
the clout to do it...I hope every rv. builder is a member...we help them,
and help
ourselves...
If any one has any questions, contact me off list ( I am just a member)
Bert
rv6a
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| Subject: | Re: DO NOT ARCHIVE (and quoting too!) |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Jim Anglin wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
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>A very simple solution
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>And PLEASE stop quoting the messages in your reply. I don't believe there is
anyone here who will not know what you are talking about when reading your reply
post. It is redundant, and stupid to believe that a message needs to be included
in a reply as long as the subject line is correct.
>
Sorry, I disagree. I see lots of emails with only a reply ..... and
sometimes the reply doesn't fit the subject. It is redundant. Stupid?
I don't think so. Maybe folks could trim comments past the last one???
I dunno.
Linn
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Robin,
I can't look at it right now but, I believe that I put the wedge about
midway on the rudder. The trailing edge of the wedge is flush with the
trailing edge of the rudder. I think that the actual position along the
trailing edge of the rudder is not important. I placed it where it
looked ok to me.
Regards,
Richard
Robin Marks wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
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>Richard,
> Thanks, that helps a lot. Did you place the trim high on the
>rudder, low on the rudder? (seems like I have see them on the lower
>section below the horz. stab) Did you place it perpendicular to the
>horizon or running along the trailing edge?
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>Thanks,
>Robin
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--> RV-List message posted by: Rick McCraw <rmccraw@s4t.net>
I am not a great fan of irrelevant messages, although I don't object
strongly. That said, I am not excited about adding Do Not Archive to an
autosignature. I, too, forget to add Do Not Archive, and I'm sure I'd
forget to remove it were it there automatically.
In short, I would rather have some chaff in the archives than to lose
valuable stuff because the author forgot to remove the DNA language.
While we're at it: There is good stuff in the archives that is
effectively lost because of misspellings in the subject line. It screws
up the search (I assume). We all misspell things occasionally, but is
there a reason not to correct the inevitable misspellings when they occur?
Rick McCraw
RV-7
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Trevor Mills" <millstrj@ozemail.com.au>
Can anyone tell me anything about the electric 3 blade MT props as sold by Eggenfellner
?
I would like to find the Model # and any comments would be great.
Thanks.
Trevor Mills 80605
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