Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:32 AM - Aileron bearings (james frierson)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: Varnatherm (Rick Galati)
3. 06:33 AM - EIS (Donald L. Erickson)
4. 06:56 AM - glueing canopy (Glen Matejcek)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: VernathermRe: Varnatherm (Dale Ensing)
6. 07:04 AM - Re: Aileron bearings (Jeff Dowling)
7. 07:16 AM - Vernatherm mystery unveiled (Jeff Dowling)
8. 07:23 AM - Re: EIS (Mitchell Goodrich)
9. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Varnatherm (D.Bristol)
10. 12:55 PM - To/From Avionics Question (n223rv@wolflakeairport.net)
11. 01:25 PM - Video's For Sale (Steve Glasgow)
12. 01:26 PM - Re: To/From Avionics Question (dsvs@comcast.net)
13. 03:24 PM - Lowrance GPS Tecnical Help (Jim Oke)
14. 03:57 PM - Re: To/From Avionics Question (Mike Kraus)
15. 04:01 PM - Re: Lowrance GPS Tecnical Help (John Fasching)
16. 05:00 PM - Re: To/From Avionics Question (Bruce Gray)
17. 05:33 PM - Re: Lowrance GPS Technical Help (Ron Lee)
18. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Varnatherm (Louis Willig)
19. 07:54 PM - Re: To/From Avionics Question (G McNutt)
20. 08:10 PM - Re: Looking for Lycoming parts on-line (Tim Lewis)
21. 10:10 PM - Varnatherm-i run cold in the summer (WPAerial@aol.com)
22. 10:20 PM - Re: Anyone know of a good place (Brian Alley)
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| Subject: | Aileron bearings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
Has anybody change the bearings in there aileron brackets? The ones on my
-6A are in need of replacement. Seem like I have seen a tool similar to a
c-clamp in an old RVator but can't put my hands on it. I searched the
archive to no avail. i will be doing my annual in the near future and would
like to take care of this.
Scott Frierson
N162RV
Flying
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
> Why do people go to the trouble to block off part of their oil cooler in the
winter? If this thermostat only opens when the temp is too high, then it will
barely be putting any oil through the cooler anyway.olor me confused...
Some production airplanes including Warriors and Cherokees use a bolt-on winterization
plate to completely block off the frontal area of the oil cooler for winter
operations. In fact the 0-320 equipped 1974 Piper Warrior's oil cooler
is mounted exactly the same way my plans mounted cooler is and it has a permanently
mounted back plate installed!
The baffle mounted oil cooler supporting my 0-320 would barely attain degrees in the hottest of summer weather. Through trial and error experimentation, I eventually blocked off the entire back side of the oil cooler with a plate. This finally brought the temp up to 180-185 degrees. Even so, when winter arrived, the oil temp barely rose to 130 degrees so I blocked off the frontal area of the cooler like the aforementioned production planes. Then when a brief winter temperature inversion occurred around here, I had to remove it to keep from generating too hot oil temperatures. This is precisely why I brought the oil cooler vent/shutter from Van's. http://tinyurl.com/9xh9k Adjustable from the cockpit, this device should put an end to constant tweaking of the oil cooler to compensate for seasonal (or daily) weather changes.
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla" 108 hours
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11201#11201
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald L. Erickson" <dle@joplin.com>
I am looking at graghical read out EIS systems. Does anyone have thoughts about
the Auracle by Xerion. It looked nice at Oshgosh last year.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
From: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: gluing canopy
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
>Are you talking about installing the canopy in one piece then cutting the
>wind screen loose from the sliding section?
Yup- I'm currently pausing to contemplate all the ways I can screw this
up, and will hopefully come up with an idea or two that will simplify the
process.
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: VernathermRe: Varnatherm |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
"There should be no reason to cover your oil cooler if you have a vernatherm."
Jeff,
It was explained to me that there is a small flow of oil thru the cooler even
when the vernatherm is closed. This is to prevent the oil in the cooler from congealing
which would not allow the oil to flow thru the cooler when the vernatherm
does open. Partially closing off the cooler helps the non-congealing flow
to do its job and subsequently helps keep the oil temp up when there is a flow
thru the cooler.
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bearings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I had to change mine. I used a C clamp and a couple of sockets. Worked
fine. I'll bet a bunch of old RVs have locked ail bearings. I talked to
Vans and they told me that after having numerous seizures, they changed
their bearing supplier.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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From: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: RV-List: Aileron bearings
> --> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
>
> Has anybody change the bearings in there aileron brackets? The ones on my
> -6A are in need of replacement. Seem like I have seen a tool similar to a
> c-clamp in an old RVator but can't put my hands on it. I searched the
> archive to no avail. i will be doing my annual in the near future and
> would
> like to take care of this.
>
> Scott Frierson
> N162RV
> Flying
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| Subject: | Vernatherm mystery unveiled |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Alright, someone explained how this works and why. He replied off list so
I'll remove his identity.
Here goes:
There is always oil pressure in both the return line from the cooler and
inlet to the cooler line weather the oil is cold or hot. There is only
full flow through the cooler when the oil is hot. When the oil is cold the
oil is ported is such a way that there is the same oil pressure going down
the return line as what is going down the in line to the cooler. Thus no
flow. When the vernatherm expands it changes the routing so that all the
oil goes through the cooler and then back to the engine instead of down
both lines. When the oil is cold there is actually a very small flow
through the cooler even though the vernatherm is open. This is done by
design, they do that so that when it is very cold the oil won't congeal in
the cooler because if there was no flow, the stagnant oil would "freeze" in
the cooler effectively blocking the cooler and preventing its use once the
vernatherm called for cooling. This is why when it is cold out and we can't
get any real oil temp, blocking the airflow over the cooler will help run
the oil a bit warmer then without the block installed because we blocked
the cooling air attacking the non congealing flow through the cooler.
Not trying to start an argument just trying to set you straight.
No argument here. Thanks for the reply.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mitchell Goodrich" <mgoodrich@tampabay.rr.com>
HI Donald,
I am very impressed with Xerion Auracele also. I've been to the factory and
spent quite a
bit of time with the unit out in the direct sun. Its the brightest and
clearest screen
ever seen. Perfect for a full canopy like my EZE. If you want a direct phone
number to the
technical gura, let me know. I call him quite often.
Xerion will be at Sun n Fun this year with a large booth just outside the
Aircraft Spruce
Hall. Hear they will have many demo units and a plane in the booth with the
unit installed.
Mitchell Goodrich
VEZE 60P
813-356-9758
hiflier68@yahoo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Erickson
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:27 AM
Subject: RV-List: EIS
--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald L. Erickson" <dle@joplin.com>
I am looking at graghical read out EIS systems. Does anyone have thoughts
about the Auracle by Xerion. It looked nice at Oshgosh last year.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
The Vernatherm does not block flow to the cooler, it's an oil cooler
BYPASS valve. It's in parallel with the cooler, so when it's open the
oil goes whichever direction is easiest. When it's closed (hot oil) it
forces the oil through the cooler. So, oil is always able to go to the
cooler and some always does, hence the reason for blocking the air to
the cooler.
Dave -6, So Cal
EAA Technical Counselor
13brv3 wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
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>I'm glad this came up, because I've never quite understood how this little gizmo
worked. Now that I think I understand it, I'm left with another puzzle.
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>Why do people go to the trouble to block off part of their oil cooler in the winter?
If this thermostat only opens when the temp is too high, then it will
barely be putting any oil through the cooler anyway.
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>Color me confused...
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11138#11138
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| Subject: | To/From Avionics Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
Can someone tell me what the "+To" and "+From" wires from a nav radio
actually do? What data do they send?
I have them on my SL30 and it would seem like it sends data that states
you are TO or FROM a VOR, but I have the same outputs on my GX60 which is
a IFR certified GPS/Comm and I would not expect it on that unit if they
were relating to a VOR.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Video's For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
EAA From the Ground Up Vol 2 and 4.
Orndorff RV- 8 Finishing Kit.
Ornforff RV 6/8 Empennage Part 1 and Part 2.
All 5 for $40 plus shipping.
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
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| Subject: | Re: To/From Avionics Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
The wires just drive the the to/from flag on the indicator. The gps will provide
virtual vor so the info is used in the same way . The actual info is derived
from which side of the vor you are compared with the selected radial. Hope
that helps
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From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> --> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
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> Can someone tell me what the "+To" and "+From" wires from a nav radio
> actually do? What data do they send?
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> you are TO or FROM a VOR, but I have the same outputs on my GX60 which is
> a IFR certified GPS/Comm and I would not expect it on that unit if they
> were relating to a VOR.
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> -Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Lowrance GPS Tecnical Help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
I recently purchased an older used Lowrance GPS, it's the 5 channel
"Airmap" predecessor to the Airmap 300. It is 8 years old but in like
new condition with little obvious signs of use. The computer and
database functions work fine but (and its a big but) the GPS will not
lock on to give a position.
Lowrance sort of understandably declines to support stuff that is this
old. So does anyone know of a source for Lowrance repairs or upgrades or
of a web site with advice of keeping older Lowrance equipment going? I
am thinking of opening the case to reseat the connectors, etc.
Thanks to anyone who can assist. It's a nice unit and would be a shame
to just toss it in the trash.
(I realize this is not hard RV stuff but I did buy the GPS to use in my
-6A so it is relevant to RV flight ops.)
Jim Oke
RV-6A C-GKGZ
Wpg., MB
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| Subject: | To/From Avionics Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I guess I need to learn how to use the virtual vor function on my GX60,
but typically don't you have a course in the GPS with an approach
selected? If so, how would a TO/FROM flag work, once you cross the next
waypoint it would just start the next leg of the route and show the next
point?
I know I am ignorant as to how the virtual VOR would work with a GPS
route selected. Or would this function be used just when you don't have
a route selected but just a Virtual VOR selected that you are tracking
to??
Can someone enlighten me? Thanks!
-Mike
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
dsvs@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: To/From Avionics Question
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
The wires just drive the the to/from flag on the indicator. The gps
will provide virtual vor so the info is used in the same way . The
actual info is derived from which side of the vor you are compared with
the selected radial. Hope that helps
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> --> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
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> Can someone tell me what the "+To" and "+From" wires from a nav radio
> actually do? What data do they send?
>
> I have them on my SL30 and it would seem like it sends data that
> states you are TO or FROM a VOR, but I have the same outputs on my
> GX60 which is a IFR certified GPS/Comm and I would not expect it on
> that unit if they were relating to a VOR.
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance GPS Tecnical Help |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Fasching" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Jim,
I have one of those Lowarnce models and it works just fine....have it
connected to the Nav Aid wing leveler to fly a flight plan, tho' I now use
an AnywhereMap with a modern PDA, but keep the Lowarnce as back up...I found
that the antenna placement is fairly fussy on the Lowrance...if everything
else is OK, try moving the antenna to various locations...if you still have
the "flip up" cover- antenna connected, you might try removing it and using
the remote feature to let the antenna get a better view of the sky.
John
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From: "Jim Oke" <wjoke@shaw.ca>
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| Subject: | To/From Avionics Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
It's my understanding that all GPS navagation is based on to/to. I don't
believe the FAA allows and 'from' navagation in the database.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: To/From Avionics Question
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I guess I need to learn how to use the virtual vor function on my GX60,
but typically don't you have a course in the GPS with an approach
selected? If so, how would a TO/FROM flag work, once you cross the next
waypoint it would just start the next leg of the route and show the next
point?
I know I am ignorant as to how the virtual VOR would work with a GPS
route selected. Or would this function be used just when you don't have
a route selected but just a Virtual VOR selected that you are tracking
to??
Can someone enlighten me? Thanks!
-Mike
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
dsvs@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: To/From Avionics Question
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
The wires just drive the the to/from flag on the indicator. The gps
will provide virtual vor so the info is used in the same way . The
actual info is derived from which side of the vor you are compared with
the selected radial. Hope that helps
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> --> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
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> Can someone tell me what the "+To" and "+From" wires from a nav radio
> actually do? What data do they send?
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> I have them on my SL30 and it would seem like it sends data that
> states you are TO or FROM a VOR, but I have the same outputs on my
> GX60 which is a IFR certified GPS/Comm and I would not expect it on
> that unit if they were relating to a VOR.
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> -Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Re: Lowrance GPS Technical Help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
First off it probably does not know where it is or the correct time.
If you can verify that the date/time is correct then see if there is a
way to set your approximate position. There should be a screen
that shows the positions of the GPS satellites. If you can compare
yours with a GPS receiver that is working properly you can see how
bad the almanac is.
Have it on in an area with a good view of the sky and leave it on
It could take 20 minutes or more initially.
Exactly what model is it.
Ron Lee
At 04:17 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
>
>I recently purchased an older used Lowrance GPS, it's the 5 channel
>"Airmap" predecessor to the Airmap 300. It is 8 years old but in like
>new condition with little obvious signs of use. The computer and
>database functions work fine but (and its a big but) the GPS will not
>lock on to give a position.
>
>Lowrance sort of understandably declines to support stuff that is this
>old. So does anyone know of a source for Lowrance repairs or upgrades or
>of a web site with advice of keeping older Lowrance equipment going? I
>am thinking of opening the case to reseat the connectors, etc.
>
>Thanks to anyone who can assist. It's a nice unit and would be a shame
>to just toss it in the trash.
>
>(I realize this is not hard RV stuff but I did buy the GPS to use in my
>-6A so it is relevant to RV flight ops.)
>
>Jim Oke
>RV-6A C-GKGZ
>Wpg., MB
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--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
Hi gang,
The current explanations of the vernatherm have been the best in several
years. This subject always comes up in cold weather, and several of our
listers really do know how it works. Todays posts from Jeff Dowling and
Dave Bristol seem to explain the operation of the v/t properly and concisely.
I would like to add a bit of information if I may. I don't remember the RV
type of the original posters question, but if it was an RV-4 ...... What
else can I say. Every RV-4 wants to run at ~ 120 -130 deg. in the winter.
On a miserable, hot summer day, we are lucky to see 195-200 deg. The very
tight cowling on the -4 is overkill to the cooler, and the explanation
about the bypassing of the oil seems to explain and confirm why the --4's
oil temp is so low. I have had several RV-4's and have seen and performed
several experiments. My current -4 has its cooler mounted to the rear
baffle, and has a controllable flap on the rear(exhaust side) of the
cooler. This has never, never worked well. In fact, it doesn't work at all.
Because at normal flying speed, the air pressure entering the intake side
of the cooler is so strong, it pushes the flap open a millimeter or two.
This is enough to over-cool the oil. HOWEVER, on both my -4's the solution
that always works is to partially or completely cover over the intake side
of the cooler.
PS Thanks Jeff and Dave.
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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| Subject: | Re: To/From Avionics Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Mike
If you have your GPS set up for IFR with an external CDI and you put a
waypoint on "hold" you will get a To/From indication on the CDI as you
fly to or from (over) that waypoint.. One example would be holding at an
intersection, you don't want the GPS to cycle to the next route waypoint
so the intersection waypoint goes on "hold" and the To/From will work
just the same as if you were using VOR and holding at a VOR station.
It's in the operators manual and your GX-60 manual is a lot better than
my SL-60 manual!
George in Langley BC
Mike Kraus wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
>I guess I need to learn how to use the virtual vor function on my GX60,
>but typically don't you have a course in the GPS with an approach
>selected? If so, how would a TO/FROM flag work, once you cross the next
>waypoint it would just start the next leg of the route and show the next
>point?
>
>I know I am ignorant as to how the virtual VOR would work with a GPS
>route selected. Or would this function be used just when you don't have
>a route selected but just a Virtual VOR selected that you are tracking
>to??
>
>Can someone enlighten me? Thanks!
>
>-Mike
>
>Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Lycoming parts on-line |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
I just finished an IO-540 rebuild a few weeks ago. I used
http://www.aircraft-specialties.com/ to do my crank
balancing/certification and inspection of steel parts. I found that
their on-line catalog is about the best available, but A.E.R.O. had very
slightly better overall prices for new and used engine parts, and
noticably better in-stock status for the parts I needed.
A.E.R.O. is at http://www.a-e-r-o.com. I worked with Jesse at the
Granite City office.
Tim
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Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 830 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
RV6 Flyer wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
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> Where can one buy Lycoming Parts on line? Did a Google search and not much
> luck finding an outfit that can cross-reference old part numbers to new and
> has a web site that you can order from.
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> It looks like I have to do it the old fashioned way, pick up the phone, and
> call.
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> I did find what I was looking for. (Studs to mount a mag.) Want spares in
> case I break one when I install my new P-Mags.
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> It appears that there is a lack of new Lycoming part vendors on the
> internet. Wonder is it has anything to do with UnApproved Parts getting
> into the system.
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> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 1,839 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
> http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Varnatherm-i run cold in the summer |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
i had the first post on runnig cold with my 6. the thing is, it also runs
about 170 in the summer.
someone was giving me a bad time about fuel economy and flying slow. i
thought it was fun to see what van was writing about in the rv ator. also found
out
going the 15 min. to salem for the hamburger keeps me in the air longer.
which means more fun. which gives me that rv grin.the under 5 gal/hour fuel burn
is just a side benefit as long as i am not burning the valves ect.
thanks to every one who gave me insight to my problems.
jerry wilken
rv6a 390 hours
n699wp
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone know of a good place |
--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Any chance you were a F-4G jock or EWO? I worked ECM on the Wild Weasels at George
AFB, CA 1978-82. I built and now fly a W-10 Wittman Tailwind, Ona Airpark
WV (12V). Not sure where you are flying from, but KPMH at Portsmouth OH is a favorite
spot for our locals.
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
304-562-6800 home
304-395-4932 cell
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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