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1. 04:23 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Vern W.)
2. 05:30 AM - Virus protection (charles heathco)
3. 05:30 AM - Virus protection (charles heathco)
4. 05:44 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Alex Peterson)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Ron Lee)
6. 09:24 AM - Garmin handheld (lyle)
7. 10:18 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Tony Marshall)
8. 10:41 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Knicholas2@aol.com)
9. 12:25 PM - Re: Garmin handheld (Rick Galati)
10. 03:16 PM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Herron, Al)
11. 04:18 PM - Inspection plates (John Jessen)
12. 05:34 PM - Speed fairings (John Furey)
13. 06:47 PM - Re: Inspection plates (Charlie England)
14. 07:34 PM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (WPAerial@aol.com)
15. 11:11 PM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (randall)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
Using a defogger is something I've given thought to, but am not sure how
necessary it really is.
I'd like to hear from frequent flyers who have NO defogging installed and
get some reports about them ever wishing they had them.
Vern W.
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Cc: <bestrep@bellsouth.net>
| Subject: | Virus protection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Hope everyone has good virus prot updating. I have had a new update downloaded
from Norton last 6 morn in a row, ( 2 on wed) Usual is 2 per wk on average. Be
alert. Chas.
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Cc: <bestrep@bellsouth.net>
| Subject: | Virus protection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Hope everyone has good virus prot updating. I have had a new update downloaded
from Norton last 6 morn in a row, ( 2 on wed) Usual is 2 per wk on average. Be
alert. Chas.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
>
> Using a defogger is something I've given thought to, but am
> not sure how necessary it really is.
>
> I'd like to hear from frequent flyers who have NO defogging
> installed and get some reports about them ever wishing they had them.
>
> Vern W.
Vern, I am not sure why you only wanted those without fans to answer...mine
doesn't have fans until I turn them on:
) The need depends upon the
temperature and whether or not there are two people on board. If the OAT is
at or below about 10F, and the ground ops time is more than 5 minutes, you
will have a frosted up windscreen. Noticably faster with two on board. It
will clear up after several minutes in flight. There have been takeoffs
that I would not have been able to make without the fans. Both fans are
directed at the pilot's side, and the copilot's side has been completely
obscured. So, the necessity is totally dependent upon the OAT that you plan
to taxi in. Another option is to keep the canopy cracked open while
taxiing, something I've not found comfortable at all. Most GA pilots do not
fly when the temps are in the 10F and below range, based upon my
observations.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 714 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 05:17 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
>
>Using a defogger is something I've given thought to, but am not sure how
>necessary it really is.
800 hours in three years and no need for it.
Caveat: I live in a dry climate.
Ron Lee
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--> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
Hi Listers,
I would like to ask for your opinions on choosing a Garmin
196 or a color 296, for any of you who may own or use either of these.
I do realize the difference in cost and color, but what I want to know is how many
users feel the cost and color diffference would affect your choice ?
I sense that the display of the 196 appears larger, but is that just how the
promo photos appear ?
I imagine the functions are about the same, are they not ?
Anyway, I guess it mostly comes down to whether the extra cost of color is worth
it ?
Many thanks for any who care to add to this.
Austin.
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
Have been using the 196 for a number of years and am quite satisfied with
it....good screen visibility....low battery use....easy to update.
The 296 has a 'terrain' feature that would be nice, and the screen is very
nice. I think the cost of the nice bright color screen is battery life
though. I have thought about making the change myself, but am presently
satisfied with what I have in the 196....and they are pretty reasonably
priced.
tony marshall
rv6
polson, mt
----- Original Message -----
From: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Garmin handheld
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
>
> Hi Listers,
> I would like to ask for your opinions on choosing a
> Garmin 196 or a color 296, for any of you who may own or use either of
> these.
> I do realize the difference in cost and color, but what I want to know is
> how many users feel the cost and color diffference would affect your
> choice ?
> I sense that the display of the 196 appears larger, but is that just
> how the promo photos appear ?
> I imagine the functions are about the same, are they not ?
> Anyway, I guess it mostly comes down to whether the extra cost of color is
> worth it ?
> Many thanks for any who care to add to this.
> Austin.
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
I put 2 computer cooling fans in my RV9A. Here in the damp Seattle area it
does help to defrost the windshield. Another great benefit is that it draws
warm air off the radio stack to keep the radios cool. I run the fans all the
time for the radio cooling.
Kim Nicholas
Auburn, WA
RV9A 77 hours!
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
lyleedda(at)telus.net wrote:
> .... opinions on choosing a Garmin 196 or a color 296, for any of you who may
own or use either of these..... I want to know is how many users feel the cost
and color diffference would affect your choice?.....I imagine the functions
are about the same, are they not ?
> Austin.
I am pleased with the upgrade I made to the 296 from the quite capable 196 which
I happily owned for 3 years or so, but it took significant Garmin discounting
(prior to its 396 debut) for me to opt for the change. The surface display
area and the intuitive user operations are pretty much the same between the units.
The redraw rate is a bit faster in the 296 but as a practical matter, that
doesn't mean a whole lot. However, the clear and sharp color display is much
more sexy and appealing. But more important than the pretty colors is the nifty
terrain avoidance feature. This is where the color display is essential and
really comes into its potentially lifesaving own. I have intentionally aimed
my airplane directly towards an obstruction, usually a communications tower
straight ahead and watch the 296 unerrringly warn of its presence. Climbing or
decending towards the conflict object (or elevated terrain) produces a yellow
background on the display which indicates marginal clearance and turns to red
to indicate a sure collision if a course (or altitude) correction is not made.
One page shows this avoidance feature exclusively. However, Garmin convieniently
thought to include its terrain warning feature as a "pop up' window on
the main moving map page if a potential conflict suddenly arises. For my purposes,
battery life is a non-issue since I keep it plugged into my RV's 12V power
receptacle. In practice, I find myself referring to the 296 much more often
than the permanently installed 430's display. The only thing I actually preferred
in the 196 to the 296 is its vertical navigation function. The 296 will
guide you down well enough but is programmed to shut down the guidance several
miles from the destination target. My guess is Garmin rethought the function
and altered it to better discourage a pilot from being tempted to shoot a casual
and highly illegal approach! As a bonus and as the photo illustrates, I
have a handy place to hang my headsets too. All in all, I am well pleased with
the 296!
but unl
ike my less than satisfying experience in the past, I will not be sucked into purchasing
the optional automotive kit like I did with the 196. But that is as
they say, another story.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4584/pairofgarmins412au.jpg
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12934#12934
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Herron, Al" <Al.Herron@Aerojet.com>
I've placed a similar fan to circulate air around my avionics stacks to try
to provide a little cooling. I've yet to wire up and test the avionics, and
I'm concerned about electrical noise from the fan motor. Does anyone have
any experience with a similar setup?
Al Herron
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| Subject: | Inspection plates |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Anyone installing clear (plexi?) inspection covers / plates instead of
aluminum?
John Jessen
~328
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Just wanted to let you know that Vic has been shipping the carbon fiber
fairings for the fuel drains, fuel vents and aileron hinges for Rv's &
Rockets and they are beautiful. For full details and pictures contact him at
vjs406@yahoo.com
John Furey
RV6A gone
F1 in process
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection plates |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
John Jessen wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
>Anyone installing clear (plexi?) inspection covers / plates instead of
>aluminum?
>
>John Jessen
> ~328
>
I believe that Van says the AL covers are structural (note the number of
screws). You might want to give them a call before you do it.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
i put two computer cooling fans in to defog.
no noise.
but they were a waste of time. don't really need them. a soft towel works
better. after you get going the fog is gone.
Jerry wilken
rv6a
n699wp
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "randall" <rv6n6r@comcast.net>
> > I'd like to hear from frequent flyers who have NO defogging
> > installed and get some reports about them ever wishing they had them.
Okay that's me.
I built a "defroster vent" into the glareshield with a duct routed to it.
The tube goes down and just kind of hangs there next to where the heat inlet
is thru the firewall. Seemed like a good idea at the time but in fact it
doesn't do a damn thing. In the winter I get fogged plexi fairly often and
sometimes it stays fogged once I get flying unless I open the cold air
vents.
I keep meaning to either 1) plumb the SCAT tube so the heat inlet blows more
directly into the glareshield duct or 2) put a fan in there. But 5 years and
750 hrs after first flight I can't seem to get around to it... too many
other fun things to do (like go flying!)
Randall Henderson
RV-6
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