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1. 12:50 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Jeff Point)
2. 05:19 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Vern W.)
3. 08:10 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Jim Anglin)
4. 08:28 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Robin Marks)
5. 08:58 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Mickey Coggins)
6. 09:40 AM - XM and the 386 (Rick Galati)
7. 10:03 AM - Re: Garmin handheld (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
8. 10:20 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (Alex Peterson)
9. 10:31 AM - Re: XM and the 396 (Mickey Coggins)
10. 10:55 AM - F-904H Center Section Side Plate (Ron)
11. 10:55 AM - Re: RV-7 Defog fans (SteinAir, Inc.)
12. 11:59 AM - Finishing Van's intersection fairings (RV-6) (Tom Barnes)
13. 01:24 PM - Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 25th. Let's push 100 again (deuskid)
14. 01:24 PM - Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 25th. Let's push 100 again (deuskid)
15. 03:39 PM - Re: XM and the 386 (Dan Beadle)
16. 03:53 PM - OAT Sensor problem (rveighta)
17. 03:59 PM - Re: XM and the 386 (Ron Lee)
18. 05:15 PM - Re: OAT Sensor problem (Jeff Point)
19. 05:37 PM - Re: OAT Sensor problem (Doug Weiler)
20. 05:47 PM - Re: OAT Sensor problem (LarryRobertHelming)
21. 06:28 PM - Re: vernatherm success (Vincent Welch)
22. 07:50 PM - Re: Garmin handheld (James Clark)
23. 08:42 PM - Re: XM and the 386 (Alex Peterson)
24. 08:49 PM - Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (Vanremog@aol.com)
25. 10:06 PM - Re: XM and the 386 (Dan Beadle)
26. 10:50 PM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (Sportypilot)
27. 10:59 PM - fuselage stand (JIM ETCHEVERRY)
28. 11:16 PM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (Vanremog@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
The 196 had a software update last year which gives it the same terrain
functions, ie. depicts the towers and their heights and warns you when
you're about to smack one.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ 196
Milwaukee
Tony Marshall wrote:
>The 296 has a 'terrain' feature that would be nice, and the screen is very
>nice.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Defog fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
Thanks Randall, that kind of says it all. If you've been "meaning" to
install a defog system, but haven't in over 750 hours of flying, then I
think when it comes right down to it, a defogger simply that much of an
importance.
A soft rag tucked into a side pocket seems to be plenty good for the purpose
for those times when called for.
Vern W.
On 2/18/06, randall <rv6n6r@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "randall" rv6n6r@comcast.net
>
>
> Okay that's me.
>
>
> I keep meaning to either 1) plumb the SCAT tube so the heat inlet blows
> more
> directly into the glareshield duct or 2) put a fan in there. But 5 years
> and
> 750 hrs after first flight I can't seem to get around to it... too many
> other fun things to do (like go flying!)
>
> Randall Henderson
> RV-6
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
I owned a Garmin GPS Pilot III and a 295. They were both outstanding but I much
preferred the 295 just because of the color. It is much easier to see in any
light, and the contrasting colors make it easier to read. If money is a real
issue, get the 295 instead of the 296. Otherwise the 296 is the choice for
me. I have a panel mount GNC300XL IFR and a GPS PILOT III for a backup (and
back seater) and if it wasn't for the IFR issue I would have gotten a 296.
Jim Anglin
HR II N144HR
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
IMHO I would only get the color unit. I find the 296 to be the most
useful device in my cockpit (other than the urine bottle) and being that
I am so dependant on it I prefer the better image definition you get
with the color display. Also keep in mind that if you ever choose to
upgrade by selling your color unit you will get more for the 296 than
the 196 to the actual cost is less than the purchase price difference
between the two units. I have found (personally) that when I go with the
cheaper "value" purchase I always wish I had purchased the upgraded
version. A friend of mine has a saying that "the most expensive thing he
ever did was try and save money."
Note the above is only my opinion and part of the reason I am known as
the great justifier! I can justify just about anything to myself.
Robin
RV-6A 250 hours (Pivot Panel Mounted 296)
RV-4 Sold (Air Gizmo Mounted 296) http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-4/
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
I'm currently flying with a 196 and I like it. However, if I were
flying in the US, I'd try to get a 396. The weather
part of that box looks really great, and could be a bacon-saver.
Sure, it costs a lot, but if you amortize over three years,
assume you can sell it in three years for 1000, it only costs
about 400 a year, plus subscription.
"When you buy the best, you only cry once."
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Right off, I freely submit I barely understand the complexities involved but just
the same, I'll throw this thought out there and maybe glean some useful insights
from those more knowledgable.
I would love to own a Garmin 396. I could buy one sure...but....I am loathe to
commit to an ongoing monthly subscription for the primary reason for buying one......XM
weather services. To me, a on-going $50 per month service fee is not
an insignificant commitment. Beside, I just don't like elective monthly payments
period.
I keep reading reports that XM radio is in serious financial trouble and is generally
falling short of its goals. Is XM satellite weather subject to the same
financial pressures as XM satellite radio? Cutting to the chase: Within the
framework of our capitalistic system, it is reasonable to suppose that XM technology
is here to stay BUT at some point a structural reorganization will likely
occur within the XM industry. If so, is there any likelyhood that monthly
subscription services for XM weather services relevant to the 386 (and its eventual
successor) will trend downward like so many other hi-tech consumer products?
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Hi Austin,
You can buy a used 296 on ebay because lots of folk are going to the 396,
which run around $1000, and sell your 196 for about $500, that's what I did.
Got a nice clean unit and like it much better. Redraws faster, easier to read
because of the color, and I like the terrain feature a lot, for those pesky
radio towers when the ceiling is down.
A feature I like is the 8 hour ( tested it) battery life. We haven't
bothered to wire it to the ship yet, just take it home keep it charged up. For
ease
of use, I think these beat the certified panel mounts. HTH...
Jerry Cochran
Wilsonville, OR
From: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
Subject: RV-List: Garmin handheld
--> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
Hi Listers,
I would like to ask for your opinions on choosing a Garmin
196 or a color 296, for any of you who may own or use either of these.
I do realize the difference in cost and color, but what I want to know is
how many
users feel the cost and color diffference would affect your choice ?
I sense that the display of the 196 appears larger, but is that just how the
promo photos appear ?
I imagine the functions are about the same, are they not ?
Anyway, I guess it mostly comes down to whether the extra cost of color is
worth
it ?
Many thanks for any who care to add to this.
Austin.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks Randall, that kind of says it all. If you've been
> "meaning" to install a defog system, but haven't in over 750
> hours of flying, then I think when it comes right down to it,
> a defogger simply that much of an importance.
>
> A soft rag tucked into a side pocket seems to be plenty good
> for the purpose for those times when called for.
>
>
> Vern W.
Vern, there are people who don't ever use the heaters in their cars either,
as they live in warm climates. To repeat my previous post, if you taxi in
OAT's at or below about 10F, you will either need to leave the canopy
cracked open or have some sort of defrost system. A rag will not clear
frost. Everything depends on the temperatures where you live or plan to
fly.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 712 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: XM and the 396 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I would love to own a Garmin 396. I could buy one sure...but....I am
> loathe to commit to an ongoing monthly subscription for the primary
> reason for buying one......XM weather services. To me, a on-going
> $50 per month service fee is not an insignificant commitment. Beside,
> I just don't like elective monthly payments period.
The only people that like recurring payments are the companies
that receive them. However, they are something that helps
companies make money, which if you want the service to continue,
is a good thing. I have no idea how many weather subscribers
they have, nor what it costs them to provide this service, but
I agree that USD 50/month is a chunk of change.
> I keep reading reports that XM radio is in serious financial trouble
> and is generally falling short of its goals. Is XM satellite weather
> subject to the same financial pressures as XM satellite radio?
> Cutting to the chase: Within the framework of our capitalistic
> system, it is reasonable to suppose that XM technology is here to
> stay BUT at some point a structural reorganization will likely occur
> within the XM industry. If so, is there any likelyhood that monthly
> subscription services for XM weather services relevant to the 386
> (and its eventual successor) will trend downward like so many other
> hi-tech consumer products?
I think the price will go down when they have competition. I have
read that WSI will start using Sirius satellites for weather
broadcast, which should lower their prices a lot. Today, they
are much more expensive than XM. They will have trouble when
they drop the prices, since they have a lot of subscribers
paying over USD 1000/year. Not sure how it will all play out.
Of course, there's also ADS-B coming "real soon now". ADS-B
has the promise of weather as well, but no doubt we'll
make another exception to capitalism and anoint one company
to own and control the sending of information to the cockpit.
Who knows what they will charge for it.
One way to make it cheaper is to share a subscription amongst
several pilots. For example, if 10 pilots get together and buy
5 receivers and subscriptions, it becomes half the price. Not
sure if the Ts&Cs of the service allow this, but might be worth
a look.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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| Subject: | F-904H Center Section Side Plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron" <brown_rj@bellsouth.net>
I think my right 904H might have been drilled backward. It appears on dwg 23 coordinates
3.5, and C, that the top of the spar flange has a bevel on the front
flange. The 904H has this same bevel. My left side matches the dwg, but the
right has the bevel on the aft flange of the spar. I matched up the bevels not
paying attention to the orientation and matched drilled. Now I notice the spacer
will not come out of the slot between the two spars. If I flip the 904H over,
the slot works fine, and all is well. The issue now is the hole spacing.
the front is supposed to have 24 holes and the rear flange 25 according to dwg
16. I can't simply drill new holes as they will elongate the current ones, any
ideas, thoughts? The left side is correct.. spar flange serial numbers and orientation
marks from vans is correct..
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--> RV-List message posted by: "SteinAir, Inc." <stein@steinair.com>
Ditto what alex said. Up here in the frozen north (where it's currently a
whopping FOUR degrees outside) a defroster is a MUST. You'll quickly find
that in temperatures like this that the light "film" that people think of on
their windshields up here becomes literally a layer of frost and ice that
really sucks to try and scrape off (not wipe, but scrape). I hate having
the canopy craked with it's 10 degrees out (but sometimes just have to) so
my little muffin fans at least keep an open circle in front of the pilot and
co-pilot...although some days my little "portholes of defrosted window"
aren't very large until the plane gets moving!
Just my 2 cents...but then again everyone laughs at my "winterization kit"
which consits of varying widths (currently 2 strips) of duct tape across my
air inlets :)
Cheers,
Stein.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alex Peterson
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:19 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-7 Defog fans
>
>Vern, there are people who don't ever use the heaters in their cars either,
>as they live in warm climates. To repeat my previous post, if you taxi in
>OAT's at or below about 10F, you will either need to leave the canopy
>cracked open or have some sort of defrost system. A rag will not clear
>frost. Everything depends on the temperatures where you live or plan to
>fly.
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6-A N66AP 712 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>
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| Subject: | Finishing Van's intersection fairings (RV-6) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Barnes" <skytop@megsinet.net>
Listers,
I have Van's top and bottom intersection fairings and f/g legs and I have them
cleco'd in place. They went on with very little distortion. I plan to attach
them with screws and nutplates rather than bonding permanently to the wheel
covers. The plans call for laying up two layers of glass over the intersection
fairings.
It seems to me that it would be okay to lay up the extra layers on the bench rather
than on the airplane where I would have to deal with clecos. The only consideration
I can think of - lies in the amount of distortion. QUESTION: Is
this how others are doing it (on the bench)?
Thanks for any input.
Tom Barnes -6 190+ hrs
Buffalo Grove, IL
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| Subject: | Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 25th. Let's push 100 again |
--> RV-List message posted by: "deuskid" <empire.john@gmail.com>
newbie looking to hitch a ride from So. Il [Belleville IL/St Louis area]. I'd
like to drive to your place and help with gas if you have an empty seat.
my phone no. is 314.807.0027
thanks
John
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| Subject: | Re: i39 Flyin Feb. 25th. Let's push 100 again |
--> RV-List message posted by: "deuskid" <empire.john@gmail.com>
newbie from Belleville IL looking to hitch a ride for gas to the fly in.
my phone # is 314.807.0027 if you have an empty seat and are within striking distance
to the St Louis area so I could drive and meet up with you at your location.
Thanks
John
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@inclinesoftworks.com>
XM did report a higher than expected loss this week. BUT
They have the most subscribers. Their true fixed costs - the costs of
satellites - are not going up while subscribers have doubled. They seem to
be in the early, easy spending stages. They will likely start to watch
pennies as they mature, but in this kind of play, it is all about
subscribers. They have plenty of content to keep attracting subscribers.
Right now, there are only 5 million. But the target population is 300
million. And some people will have multiple subscriptions - for Garmins,
boom boxes, etc., as well as cars.
I just committed to $6K upgrade to my MX-20 to put the weather on the panel
in my C414.
The RV8 will get a G396 ---- and another subscription.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Galati
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: RV-List: XM and the 386
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Right off, I freely submit I barely understand the complexities involved but
just the same, I'll throw this thought out there and maybe glean some useful
insights from those more knowledgable.
I would love to own a Garmin 396. I could buy one sure...but....I am loathe
to commit to an ongoing monthly subscription for the primary reason for
buying one......XM weather services. To me, a on-going $50 per month
service fee is not an insignificant commitment. Beside, I just don't like
elective monthly payments period.
I keep reading reports that XM radio is in serious financial trouble and is
generally falling short of its goals. Is XM satellite weather subject to
the same financial pressures as XM satellite radio? Cutting to the chase:
Within the framework of our capitalistic system, it is reasonable to suppose
that XM technology is here to stay BUT at some point a structural
reorganization will likely occur within the XM industry. If so, is there
any likelyhood that monthly subscription services for XM weather services
relevant to the 386 (and its eventual successor) will trend downward like so
many other hi-tech consumer products?
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=13105#13105
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| Subject: | OAT Sensor problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
I recently installed an OAT sensor in the outboard inspection panel under the
left wing of my 8A and hooked it up to my EIS engine monitor. I was surprised
to see the indicated temp was twice what the ambient temp in my hangar was.
Any ideas for the reason for this and a fix?
Walt Shipley RV-8A flying, RV-8 still under construction
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Right now, there are only 5 million. But the target population is 300
>million.
300 million is high by perhaps a factor or 5-10.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Sensor problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I don't have the manual handy, but I'd guess the settings for that input
are off. You might want to look them up and double check.
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee
>
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Sensor problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
On 2/18/06 5:52 PM, "rveighta" <rveighta@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
>
> I recently installed an OAT sensor in the outboard inspection panel under the
> left wing of my 8A and hooked it up to my EIS engine monitor. I was surprised
> to see the indicated temp was twice what the ambient temp in my hangar was.
>
> Any ideas for the reason for this and a fix?
>
> Walt Shipley RV-8A flying, RV-8 still under construction
>
I hope you wired this with the proper thermocouple type wire. That will
make a big, big difference.
Doug Weiler
RV-4, N722DW
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Sensor problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
----- Original Message -----
> --> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
>
> I recently installed an OAT sensor in the outboard inspection panel under
> the
> left wing of my 8A and hooked it up to my EIS engine monitor. I was
> surprised
> to see the indicated temp was twice what the ambient temp in my hangar
> was.
>
> Any ideas for the reason for this and a fix?
>
> Walt Shipley RV-8A flying, RV-8 still under construction
((((((((())))))))))))
I installed mine by the inboard inspection plate of right wing.
Be sure you have oriented your sensor/guage by setting it in freezing water
and setting that temp. display to either 32 F or 0 C and have set it in
boiling water and set that resulting measurement to 212 F or 100 C?
I did that with my ACS2002 and it gives excellent indications of
temperatures; If otherwise, I suggest you contact your sensor supplier.
Indiana Larry, RV7 SunSeeker 85+ hours flying, AFS ACS2002
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: vernatherm success |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Ron,
I too have been fighting high oil temps with an IO-360 in an RV-8A. Can you
put me in contact with your source for louvers?
Vince Welch
>From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: vernatherm success
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:20 -0700
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>At 07:30 AM 2/15/2006, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
> >
> >I have a friend who has been fighting high oil temps since day one. He
>has
> >relocated the oil cooler, and checked the operation of the vernatherm by
> >heating it in boiling water and checking the seat. Nothing has seemed to
> >helped the situation. I am wondering if there is anyone out there who
>cured
> >their oil temp woes by replacing the vernatherm.
>
>
>I have no vernatherm but fought high oil temps. I solved it by reducing
>cabin heat hose clutter, opening the bottom cowl to let air out better
>and adding cowl louvers. Best recollection is that it dropped the oil temp
>40 deg F or so.
>
>http://home.pcisys.net/~ronlee/RV6A/Cowl_Louver_Small.jpg
>
>Ron Lee
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin handheld |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James Clark" <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
As background, I have had just about every handheld aviation Garmin has made
over the years (can you say 55AVD, 95XL etc.??).
When I got the 196, it was GREAT (still a nice product).
When I upgraded to the 296, I did not EXPECT to but to me there is no
comparison of monchrome vs color. The color is FAR superior. The 196 now has
some of the terrain features of the 296.
I sold my 296 (upgraded to 396) to a friend who was CONSIDERING the 196 (he
has a 195), but when he saw the 296 up close and personal, he was hooked.
Go with the 296, you will not regret it. It has a "special" battery that
lasts a LONG time. Do not let the battery shortness of the 295 make you
think this one is not great.
In any case, you will love either.
James
On 2/17/06, lyle <lyleedda@telus.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
>
> Hi Listers,
> I would like to ask for your opinions on choosing a
> Garmin 196 or a color 296, for any of you who may own or use either of
> these.
> I do realize the difference in cost and color, but what I want to know is
> how many users feel the cost and color diffference would affect your choice
> ?
> I sense that the display of the 196 appears larger, but is that just
> how the promo photos appear ?
> I imagine the functions are about the same, are they not ?
> Anyway, I guess it mostly comes down to whether the extra cost of color is
> worth it ?
> Many thanks for any who care to add to this.
> Austin.
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I keep reading reports that XM radio is in serious financial
> trouble and is generally falling short of its goals. Is XM
> satellite weather subject to the same financial pressures as
> XM satellite radio? Cutting to the chase: Within the
> framework of our capitalistic system, it is reasonable to
> suppose that XM technology is here to stay BUT at some point
> a structural reorganization will likely occur within the XM
> industry. If so, is there any likelyhood that monthly
> subscription services for XM weather services relevant to the
> 386 (and its eventual successor) will trend downward like so
> many other hi-tech consumer products?
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
I would guess that both Sirius and XM will have to go through bankruptcy
before becoming profitable. I would not expect the monthly subscription
price to go down, more likely they will inch up (classic captive market).
Most high tech products whose prices have come down occur due to many
factors, including cheap labor, low entry barriers for competitors, and high
volume manufacturing, none of which apply to the satellite data business.
Just a guess.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 714 hours
Maple Grove, MN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
Quite some time back someone on the RV-List asked about these push button
latches. I recently did some research and realized that I had listed an
incorrect P/N in my reply and that error is forever ensconced in the archives.
My
bad.
These latches are much nicer than the commonly available Hartwell latches
IMO, as they won't pop you on the thumb some cold morning when checking the oil.
For those of you looking to use this really cool latch, they are apparently
still available from a number of Cessna parts outlets and may be found on the
web by simply Googling P/N KM610-64.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 774hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@inclinesoftworks.com>
This is a classic B-School type scenario - "Platform Strategy". They have
subscribers growing, fixed costs. So as subscribers go up, cost per
subscriber goes down.
The issue is that they are starting to pay huge fees to lock up sources -
NFL vs MLBB... Stern... etc. These are not core to current costs, but they
are positioning for the future.
Yes, I think they will get some sanity - cutting some costs. But I doubt
bankruptcy. If they double subscriptions again, they are in the black. And
GM/Delphi are invested in XM. The marketing channel is well defined.
iTunes helps drive demand. Who wants commercials? I do lament the loss of
the local content... But, that is the cost of the platform strategy.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alex Peterson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: XM and the 386
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I keep reading reports that XM radio is in serious financial
> trouble and is generally falling short of its goals. Is XM
> satellite weather subject to the same financial pressures as
> XM satellite radio? Cutting to the chase: Within the
> framework of our capitalistic system, it is reasonable to
> suppose that XM technology is here to stay BUT at some point
> a structural reorganization will likely occur within the XM
> industry. If so, is there any likelyhood that monthly
> subscription services for XM weather services relevant to the
> 386 (and its eventual successor) will trend downward like so
> many other hi-tech consumer products?
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
I would guess that both Sirius and XM will have to go through bankruptcy
before becoming profitable. I would not expect the monthly subscription
price to go down, more likely they will inch up (classic captive market).
Most high tech products whose prices have come down occur due to many
factors, including cheap labor, low entry barriers for competitors, and high
volume manufacturing, none of which apply to the satellite data business.
Just a guess.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 714 hours
Maple Grove, MN
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
how many of these are needed for the oil door ?
Danny..
----- Original Message -----
From: <Vanremog@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
> Quite some time back someone on the RV-List asked about these push button
> latches. I recently did some research and realized that I had listed an
> incorrect P/N in my reply and that error is forever ensconced in the
> archives. My
> bad.
>
> These latches are much nicer than the commonly available Hartwell latches
> IMO, as they won't pop you on the thumb some cold morning when checking
> the oil.
>
> For those of you looking to use this really cool latch, they are
> apparently
> still available from a number of Cessna parts outlets and may be found on
> the
> web by simply Googling P/N KM610-64.
>
>
> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 774hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "JIM ETCHEVERRY" <ETCHY1@comcast.net>
Does anyone have a 7a fuselage stand they want to get ride of? Jim
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 2/18/2006 10:52:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
sportypilot@stx.rr.com writes:
how many of these are needed for the oil door ?
================================
One would be sufficient, but in the spirit of redundancy, I have two of
these latches on the oil access door. I use only one latch on the gascolator
drain access door on the lower cowling.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 774hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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