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1. 02:23 AM - Re: N2D First Flight (Charles Rowbotham)
2. 04:03 AM - i39, i39, i39 Richmond, KY Flyin This Saturday (Dana Overall)
3. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (Richard Seiders)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: N2D First Flight (charles heathco)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: XM and the 386 (Chuck Jensen)
6. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button LatchP/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (jacklockamy)
7. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (jacklockamy)
8. 07:50 AM - FAR Safety question. (Knicholas2@aol.com)
9. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button LatchP/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch (John Jessen)
10. 08:04 AM - Re: N2D First Flight (gerns25@netscape.net)
11. 08:11 AM - Cockpit Light Bulb (Ed OConnor)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Dan)
13. 08:40 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Glaeser, Dennis A)
14. 08:43 AM - Re: Cockpit Light Bulb (David Burton)
15. 08:43 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Dan Checkoway)
16. 09:06 AM - Re: Cockpit Light Bulb (D.Bristol)
17. 09:38 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Glaeser, Dennis A)
18. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: FAR Safety question. (Tim Bryan)
19. 10:28 AM - IFR RV wanted (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
20. 10:28 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (linn Walters)
21. 10:47 AM - Another good experience with GRT (HCRV6@comcast.net)
22. 11:07 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Kelly McMullen)
23. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: FAR Safety question. (KellyM)
24. 11:29 AM - Opinions on antenae in VS (Folbrecht, Paul)
25. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: FAR Safety question. (Glaeser, Dennis A)
26. 11:51 AM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
27. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: FAR Safety question. (Glaeser, Dennis A)
28. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Re: FAR Safety question. (Chuck Jensen)
29. 01:28 PM - fuselage stand (JIM ETCHEVERRY)
30. 01:53 PM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Ron Lee)
31. 02:08 PM - Re: fuselage stand (Darrell Reiley)
32. 02:27 PM - RV Of The Week (Vincent Welch)
33. 06:27 PM - Re: Cockpit Light Bulb (linn Walters)
34. 06:46 PM - Re: Cockpit Light Bulb (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
35. 06:49 PM - Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... (Matt Johnson)
36. 07:02 PM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Bill and Tami Britton)
37. 07:04 PM - Brand new Red Dragon Pre Heater for sale (RV6160hp@aol.com)
38. 07:22 PM - Re: Cowl Louvers (was vernatherm success) (dick martin)
39. 07:39 PM - Re: Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... (Scott Farner)
40. 08:20 PM - FS: uEncoder, g-meter (Randy Lervold)
41. 08:46 PM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (G McNutt)
42. 08:46 PM - HELP in Las Cruces (Dan Checkoway)
43. 08:59 PM - Re: FAR Safety question. (Dave Nellis)
44. 08:59 PM - Re: Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... (Matt Johnson)
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| Subject: | N2D First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Mark,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
>To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com,
>rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: N2D First Flight
>Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:20:47 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
>
>
>Well folks, N2D is now officially an AIR-plane.
>--Mark Navratil
>Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>RV-8A (s/n 80583) N2D, 1.3 hours flying!!
>
>
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| Subject: | i39, i39, i39 Richmond, KY Flyin This Saturday |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
OK gang, it looks like Saturday is ON. Below is a shameless plug from an
FFI Cardholder who will be performing on Saturday with other members of the
OVRVators and TeamRV. Take care of your honeydo lists, pay the bills, baby
the kids, work on those ramp lies.........do whatever, but crank it up and
get on over here Saturday. We do, and I hope all those who attend, have a
great time. More to follow as Saturday approaches.
"Well... It's almost here again. The best fly in of the year. Dana's
Fly In at the Richmond Kentucky airport. I think he needs to name
it. Perhaps; "Black Magic Fly in, RV's over Richmond, Bluegrass Fly
in, or Dana's Fly in". Dana and Elaine will be working their butts
off this week preparing for it. Don't miss out! Dana buys enough
food to feed an army of people. Make sure you deposit money in the
donation jar. We don't want Dana to lose money while organizing a
fun event. Tell the wife that you won't be home on Saturday because
you are going to the biggest RV gathering this side of the
Mississippi. In fact if you don't count Sun-N-fun or Oshkosh you
probably will be. We will be getting details from Dana this week as
far as times and parking. Lets have a safe and fun fly in. Everyone
needs to be careful. There will be a lot of airplanes coming and
going. Be safe. Be brief. Keep the radio chatter down. Don't dilly
dally on the runway. It's going to be a lot of fun, you can bet on
that. We'll be getting a list of who's going later in the week.
We'll also be putting flights together. If you are coming in as a
single ship please give way to the several multi ship flights that
will be converging on the airport. The flight leads will appreciate
your patience.
Dogg"
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Seiders <seiders@bellsouth.net>
Drilled a hole in cowl below gascolator large enough to insert drain fuel
testor. Works fine.
Dick
At 05:22 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 02/19/2006 2:29:33 AM Central Standard Time,
>sportypilot@stx.rr.com writes:
>and have the gasolator drain stick out just a little without
>a door for it.. whats others doing on that ?
> >>>>>
>
>No gascolator...
>
>Mark - do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: N2D First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Mark, you have a way with words, enjoyed your first flight report, Congrats! Charlie
Heathco
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
No problem....we new what you mint.
Do Not Archive.
In a message dated 2/19/2006 10:31:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ceengland@bellsouth.net writes:
My point is that new technology will soon render the XM issue mute.
And also moot.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 774hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button LatchP/N KM610-64 Camloc |
Flush Button Latch
--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net> Camloc
Flush Button Latch
I installed the Camlock Flush Button Latch on my now flying RV-7A. Works great
with just one button as long as you stiffen the door.
Scroll down near the bottom of this page and you will see four (4) close-up photos
of how I installed mine:
http://www.jacklockamy.com/RV-7A.html
I purchased three or four of these camlocks at a fly-mart one year while at Sun-N-Fun
for about $5 each. (I have sold the remaining flush locks to other friends
building RVs.... sorry.)
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
N174JL RV-7A 140 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button Latch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
To solve the problem of 'wear' where the camlock contacts the fiberglass cowling,
I installed a small strip of stainless steel (1" x 1/2" x .030) under the cowling
lip and attached with a couple of flush rivets.
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
Maybe someone here can answer this question.
A buddy and I fly as IFR safety pilot for each other for training. As
safety pilot, can I log the flight time? If so, in what capacity? Pilot in
command??
Even the local FAA gurus cannot agree on this one.
Thanks.
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button LatchP/N KM610-64 Camloc |
Flush Button Latch
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Beautiful interior, BTW. Nice job.
John Jessen
40328 (Tailcone)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jacklockamy Camloc
Flush Button Latch
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: P/N KM610-64 Camloc Flush Button LatchP/N KM610-64
Camloc Flush Button Latch
--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
--> Camloc Flush Button Latch
I installed the Camlock Flush Button Latch on my now flying RV-7A. Works
great with just one button as long as you stiffen the door.
Scroll down near the bottom of this page and you will see four (4) close-up
photos of how I installed mine:
http://www.jacklockamy.com/RV-7A.html
I purchased three or four of these camlocks at a fly-mart one year while at
Sun-N-Fun for about $5 each. (I have sold the remaining flush locks to
other friends building RVs.... sorry.)
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
N174JL RV-7A 140 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: N2D First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Rowbotham <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:15:40 +0000
Subject: RE: RV-List: N2D First Flight
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Mark,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
>To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com,
>rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: N2D First Flight
>Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:20:47 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
>
>
>Well folks, N2D is now officially an AIR-plane.
>--Mark Navratil
>Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>RV-8A (s/n 80583) N2D, 1.3 hours flying!!
>
>
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| Subject: | Cockpit Light Bulb |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
I just wanted to find out if anyone knows a source for a 12 volt # 313
bulb. I have a cockpit map light from a F-100 I acquired many years
ago and I thought I would check to see if I can rig it up in my RV.
Aircraft Spruce has the 313 but it only lists it in a 28 volt version.
Maybe there is a substitute that will work in 12 volt.
Ed O'Connor/ RV-8 N-366RV/ awaiting first flight.
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan <dan@rdan.com>
I asked the same question a few years ago, and got the same mixed answer.,
Dan -8 rudder
Snohomish WA
com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
Maybe someone here can answer this question.
A buddy and I fly as IFR safety pilot for each other for training. As
safety pilot, can I log the flight time? If so, in what capacity? Pilot in
command??
Even the local FAA gurus cannot agree on this one.
Thanks.
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
The safety pilot can log the time as 'second-in-command', for the time
that the 'pilot-in-command' is under the hood in VFR conditions. This is
because during that time you are a required crewmember.
Now keep in mind that 'second-in-command' time doesn't count toward most
things for which you log your time, like additional ratings, insurance,
..., because those require PIC time. There is value in logging that
time to prove that there was a safety pilot on-board. Just be careful
that both pilot's logbooks are in synch (PIC vs. SIC).
Dennis Glaeser
CFII
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
Maybe someone here can answer this question. A buddy and I fly as IFR
safety pilot for each other for training. As safety pilot, can I log the
flight time? If so, in what capacity? Pilot in command?? Even the local
FAA gurus cannot agree on this one.
Thanks.
Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit Light Bulb |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> I just wanted to find out if anyone knows a source for a 12 volt # 313
> bulb. I have a cockpit map light from a F-100 I acquired many years
> ago and I thought I would check to see if I can rig it up in my RV.
> Aircraft Spruce has the 313 but it only lists it in a 28 volt version.
> Maybe there is a substitute that will work in 12 volt.
> Ed O'Connor/ RV-8 N-366RV/ awaiting first flight.
Hi Ed,
Start here for bulb information:
http://www.donsbulbs.com/cgi-bin/r/b.pl/313~ac%7cdelco.html
A 313 is 28 volts by definition. You should be able to find a 12 volt bulb
that will work. It will have a different part number of course. If you
don't want to try and figure out the bulb for yourself, call Bulbman and ask
them for help...
Good luck,
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> A buddy and I fly as IFR safety pilot for each other for training. As
> safety pilot, can I log the flight time? If so, in what capacity?
> Pilot in
> command??
It's my understanding that *both* pilots can log PIC time when one is under
the hood (simulated instrument conditions, not actual), as long as the
safety pilot is rated for the given category & class, and type if a type
rating is required. Any private pilot can act as safety pilot in any
airplane regardless of type, but he can only log it as PIC if appropriately
rated and endorsed.
In other words, a private pilot single engine land can log PIC time when he
flies safety pilot in your RV-6A (just an example), but if he flies safety
pilot in a multi, he cannot log PIC.
Here's a decent write-up that may help or confuse:
http://inwg.cap.gov/lafcomp/senior/staneval/picsafetypilot.html
I used to think it was a big deal, but unless you're legitimately "saving
up" PIC time for some specific reason, it doesn't really matter in the grand
scheme.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit Light Bulb |
--> RV-List message posted by: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
Ed,
A #313 is a 28V lamp, there is no 14V version. However a #1893 should be
pretty close to the same output and they are both size T-1 3/4. The 1893
won't be quite as bright.
Any decent electronics store should have them (probably not R.S.) or
Mouser Electronics has them
http://www.mouser.com/
Dave
Ed OConnor wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
>
>I just wanted to find out if anyone knows a source for a 12 volt # 313
>bulb. I have a cockpit map light from a F-100 I acquired many years
>ago and I thought I would check to see if I can rig it up in my RV.
>Aircraft Spruce has the 313 but it only lists it in a 28 volt version.
>Maybe there is a substitute that will work in 12 volt.
>Ed O'Connor/ RV-8 N-366RV/ awaiting first flight.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Please note that both pilots can NOT log PIC for the same time! (legally
anyway :-) As noted in the link that Dan provided, the pilots can agree
on who is PIC during what times, regardless of who is 'manipulating the
controls'.
The safety pilot MUST be appropriately rated for the aircraft being
flown. For instance, you can not have a student pilot act as a safety
pilot, or a pilot rated only for single-engine can't be a safety pilot
on a multi-engine aircraft.
Dennis Glaeser
---------------------------------------------------
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
It's my understanding that *both* pilots can log PIC time when one is
under
the hood (simulated instrument conditions, not actual), as long as the
safety pilot is rated for the given category & class, and type if a type
rating is required. Any private pilot can act as safety pilot in any
airplane regardless of type, but he can only log it as PIC if
appropriately
rated and endorsed.
---snip--------------------
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Dennis, It was a little qirky the way it was written, but it did say you
could both log the time if the safety pilot was PIC and properly rated. The
legality of PIC was the issue. If the safety pilot is PIC then he is
responsible if there was a violation, or accident, etc.
I read it twice, and thought as you did at first.
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: Glaeser, Dennis A
Subject: RV-List: Re: FAR Safety question.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Please note that both pilots can NOT log PIC for the same time! (legally
anyway :-) As noted in the link that Dan provided, the pilots can agree
on who is PIC during what times, regardless of who is 'manipulating the
controls'.
The safety pilot MUST be appropriately rated for the aircraft being
flown. For instance, you can not have a student pilot act as a safety
pilot, or a pilot rated only for single-engine can't be a safety pilot
on a multi-engine aircraft.
Dennis Glaeser
---------------------------------------------------
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
It's my understanding that *both* pilots can log PIC time when one is
under
the hood (simulated instrument conditions, not actual), as long as the
safety pilot is rated for the given category & class, and type if a type
rating is required. Any private pilot can act as safety pilot in any
airplane regardless of type, but he can only log it as PIC if
appropriately
rated and endorsed.
---snip--------------------
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--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
A Southeastern PA IFR pilot is looking to replace his mustang II with an IFR RV.
It doesn't matter whether it's a tandem or side-by-side. He looked all over an
RV4 this past weekend and he's serious about it so if you have something don't
hesitate to reply privately to me and I can forward to him (I don't know what
his internet capability is but I don't think he's too up on it or these lists
in particular).
thx,
Lucky
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A Southeastern PAIFR pilot is looking to replace his mustang II with an IFR RV.
It doesn't matterwhether it's a tandem or side-by-side. He looked all over an RV4
this past weekend and he's serious about it so if you have something don't
hesitate to reply privatelyto me and I can forward to him (I don't know what his
internet capability is but I don't think he's too up on it or these lists in
particular).
thx,
Lucky
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Hmmm. I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination (nor do I play
one on TV :-P ) but I believe that in order to log PIC time, you must be
the sole manipulator of the controls and have a valid pilot's license.
As for logging the flight time, if you're not a licensed instructor I
guess you're just like a passenger keeping an eye out for bandits. I
don't know why an FAA 'guru' can't answer that question though. Kinda
perpetuates the general opinion of the FAA, doesn't it??? Do not
archive in case the FAA's reading this!!! :-)
Just my thoughts. YMMV.
Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
>Maybe someone here can answer this question.
>
>A buddy and I fly as IFR safety pilot for each other for training. As
>safety pilot, can I log the flight time? If so, in what capacity? Pilot in
>command??
>
>Even the local FAA gurus cannot agree on this one.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Kim Nicholas
>RV9A
>Auburn, WA
>
>Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Another good experience with GRT |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
At the risk of repeating myself, the folks at Grand Rapids Technology, the EIS
and now MFD people, are definitely among the greatest to work with. My EIS 4000
has worked flawlessly for the first 180 hours, but the carb air temp probe
suddenly went bonkers last week. After checking the wiring I called and explained
the problem to Sandy and gave her my CC number to send me a new probe. The
upshot is a new probe is in the mail and there is NO charge.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 181 hours
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Nope. Go to AOPA website members section under FAQ. Logging time as PIC
and being PIC are two unrelated items.
linn Walters wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hmmm. I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination (nor do I play
> one on TV :-P ) but I believe that in order to log PIC time, you must be
> the sole manipulator of the controls and have a valid pilot's license.
> As for logging the flight time, if you're not a licensed instructor I
> guess you're just like a passenger keeping an eye out for bandits. I
> don't know why an FAA 'guru' can't answer that question though. Kinda
> perpetuates the general opinion of the FAA, doesn't it??? Do not
> archive in case the FAA's reading this!!! :-)
>
> Just my thoughts. YMMV.
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: KellyM <kellym@aviating.com>
Nope, not true. If safety pilot IS PIC, and pilot under the hood is sole
manipulator of the controls, both can log PIC time.
Glaeser, Dennis A wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
>
> Please note that both pilots can NOT log PIC for the same time! (legally
> anyway :-) As noted in the link that Dan provided, the pilots can agree
> on who is PIC during what times, regardless of who is 'manipulating the
> controls'.
>
> The safety pilot MUST be appropriately rated for the aircraft being
> flown. For instance, you can not have a student pilot act as a safety
> pilot, or a pilot rated only for single-engine can't be a safety pilot
> on a multi-engine aircraft.
>
> Dennis Glaeser
>
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| Subject: | Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
I'm about to close up my VS and need to decide if there's anything I want to put
in there.
I know I don't want a strobe there but have been thinking about antenae. However,
since it looks like my 9A will be light up front (320 with Catto prop and
RG batt), and I didn't do the "optional" lightening holes in the VS spar, I think
I want to avoid any unneccessary weight in the VS at all. Many people seem
to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work well.
So, those are my thoughts now, but if someone would like to tell me differently
I would like to hear it. Thank you.
Paul
9A QB #1176
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| Subject: | Re: Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Regarding Safety Pilots, I've always taught that only one pilot can log
PIC at a time. The other one can log SIC when the PIC is under the
hood.
The article indicates that 'if the pilots agree' that the safety pilot
is PIC, then that pilot can log PIC, and that the other pilot, who is
manipulating the controls, can also log PIC (since that is the
definition in the FARs). I think that is stretching the rule to justify
double logging PIC time. In case of a violation or accident, that
'agreement' would be meaningless IMHO (I'm not a lawyer or with the
FAA).
My first question when someone asks me about this is: why is it so
important to log PIC time when you are a safety pilot? Are you trying
to qualify for a rating, meet some insurance requirement, get a flying
job, or what? Back when you had to have 200 hrs to get an instrument
rating, that was a motivation to get as much PIC time quickly as
possible. Now it that not really an issue.
Dennis
---------------------
Dennis,
It was a little qirky the way it was written, but it did say you could
both log the time if the safety pilot was PIC and properly rated. The
legality of PIC was the issue. If the safety pilot is PIC then he is
responsible if there was a violation, or accident, etc. I read it twice,
and thought as you did at first.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
a bullet (aka lipstick or spy) camera in the vertical stab fiberglass tip is a
cool option. You'll want to make the fiberglass tip removable and as an option
you might want to run some wire or string down between the two forward tooling
holes you will have to open up to pass the stab cam cables through. No big
deal. Just makes life a teensy bit easier later on.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
>
>
> I'm about to close up my VS and need to decide if there's anything I want to
put
> in there.
>
> I know I don't want a strobe there but have been thinking about antenae.
> However, since it looks like my 9A will be light up front (320 with Catto prop
> and RG batt), and I didn't do the "optional" lightening holes in the VS spar,
I
> think I want to avoid any unneccessary weight in the VS at all. Many people
> seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work well.
>
> So, those are my thoughts now, but if someone would like to tell me differently
> I would like to hear it. Thank you.
>
> Paul
> 9A QB #1176
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
a bullet (aka lipstick or spy)camera in the vertical stab fiberglass tip is a cool
option. You'll want to make the fiberglass tip removable and as an option
you might want to run some wire or string down between the two forward tooling
holes you will have to open up to pass the stab cam cables through. No big deal.
Just makes life a teensy bit easier later on.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
-- RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
<PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
I'm about to close up my VS and need to decide if there's anything I want to put
in there.
I know I don't want a strobe there but have been thinking about antenae.
However, since it looks like my 9A will be light up front (320 with Catto prop
and RG batt), and I didn't do the "optional" lightening holes in the VS spar,
I
think I want to avoid any unneccessary weight in the VS at all. Many people
seem to do the nav com in the wingtips which seems to work well.
So, those are my thoughts now, but if someone would like to tell me differently
I would like to hear i
t. Thank you.
Paul
9A QB #1176
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| Subject: | Re: Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
The AOPA FAQ reads very similar to the article Dan noted. Looks like
I'm out-voted, as long as the safety pilot agrees to be responsible for
the flight (one of the ways to be PIC). If you want/need the PIC time -
go for it. The reality is that there is no way to dispute it anyway.
It's important to know the correct way to explain things - with
references like the AOPA - if a situation ever comes up that requires
it. Good discussion!
Dennis
--> RV-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen
Nope. Go to AOPA website members section under FAQ. Logging time as PIC
and being PIC are two unrelated items.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
At first blush, the idea of both the 'under hood' pilot and 'safety'
pilot claiming PIC time would seem to be double-dipping--but then think
about a similar situation--your flight training.
You're flying the plane but you can bet the CFI is logging PIC time. It
may be double-dipping but it's legal and logical.
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glaeser, Dennis
A
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: Re: FAR Safety question.
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A"
<dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Regarding Safety Pilots, I've always taught that only one pilot can log
PIC at a time. The other one can log SIC when the PIC is under the
hood.
The article indicates that 'if the pilots agree' that the safety pilot
is PIC, then that pilot can log PIC, and that the other pilot, who is
manipulating the controls, can also log PIC (since that is the
definition in the FARs). I think that is stretching the rule to justify
double logging PIC time. In case of a violation or accident, that
'agreement' would be meaningless IMHO (I'm not a lawyer or with the
FAA).
My first question when someone asks me about this is: why is it so
important to log PIC time when you are a safety pilot? Are you trying
to qualify for a rating, meet some insurance requirement, get a flying
job, or what? Back when you had to have 200 hrs to get an instrument
rating, that was a motivation to get as much PIC time quickly as
possible. Now it that not really an issue.
Dennis
---------------------
Dennis,
It was a little qirky the way it was written, but it did say you could
both log the time if the safety pilot was PIC and properly rated. The
legality of PIC was the issue. If the safety pilot is PIC then he is
responsible if there was a violation, or accident, etc. I read it twice,
and thought as you did at first.
Tim
---------------------
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--> RV-List message posted by: "JIM ETCHEVERRY" <ETCHY1@comcast.net>
The fuselage stand I am talking about attaches to the firewall and tailend. It
hold the fuselage before the gear is put on and you can rotate the fuselage 360
if you want. Anybody have one they are done with and want to sell it? Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
> Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work
> well.
I am not sure I have heard of people happy with wingtip comm antenna.
VOR yes.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: fuselage stand |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
The Aviation department at Home Depot has aluminum and wood... you can build a
nice rotating fuse stand for less than $100 Bucks...
JIM ETCHEVERRY <ETCHY1@comcast.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "JIM ETCHEVERRY"
The fuselage stand I am talking about attaches to the firewall and tailend. It
hold the fuselage before the gear is put on and you can rotate the fuselage 360
if you want. Anybody have one they are done with and want to sell it? Jim
"Do Not Archive"
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved
---------------------------------
Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Hey Guys,
N327W made it on Doug Reeve's site (www.vansairforce.net) as RV Of The Week
this week!!!!
Vince
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit Light Bulb |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Ed, find out what the wattage is for the 313, Go to the aviation
section of your local auto parts store and see if you can find a 12V
bulb with the same base, wattage, and physical size (if the present bulb
is a tight fit). You might be able to find a table on the I'net that
will list all the bulbs and their specs. There is no #313 bulb in 12V
because the number is for a 28V bulb.
Ed OConnor wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
>
>I just wanted to find out if anyone knows a source for a 12 volt # 313
>bulb. I have a cockpit map light from a F-100 I acquired many years
>ago and I thought I would check to see if I can rig it up in my RV.
>Aircraft Spruce has the 313 but it only lists it in a 28 volt version.
>Maybe there is a substitute that will work in 12 volt.
>Ed O'Connor/ RV-8 N-366RV/ awaiting first flight.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit Light Bulb |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
There is a #330 I think in 12V but don't know about physical size.
dp
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| Subject: | Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
I was drilling the holes for the landing gear and the brake lines as per the template
on DWG 34A for the RV-7A. It says to enlarge the pilot
hole for the brake line as per DWG 28. DWG 28 says to drill it to 5/8" for the
brake line. The problem is that 5/8" seems waay to big for the
hardware called out on DWG 36A (AN837-4D 45 deg. Elbow). I already drilled the
hole to 5/8" per the plans and there is a lot of wiggle
room. Are the plans wrong on this or am I missing something???
P.S. I noticed that on another fitting (the fuel vent) it calls out 7/16" hole
in the fuse skin which seems correct...
- Matt
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
My VS on my -10 will have a cats whisker VOR/ILS/GS antenna on the top of
it.
Bill Britton
RV-10 Tailcone
#40137
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>
>> Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work
>> well.
>
> I am not sure I have heard of people happy with wingtip comm antenna.
> VOR yes.
>
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Brand new Red Dragon Pre Heater for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com
FYI...on Ebay....
Preheater, RED DRAGON LT2-12 MH-200 Brand New
Item number: 4614781236
Thanks
Dave Mc.
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl Louvers (was vernatherm success) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com>
Vince,
I had the same problem 5 years ago when I finished my RV8 with 200 hp
lycoming. Before you cut your cowl, try the following:
Install a Niagara/Harrison 10 row oil cooler on the rear baffle behind
cylinder 4 as high as cowl clearance will permit. Tilt it back
approximately 25 degrees or more if clearance from engine mount will allow.
When making pie shaped supports, use 040 or 050 4130 steel instead of
aluminum. The brackets if made from aluminum will crack in a few hours of
operation. I have enjoyed normal oil temps in all weather conditions since
installing this mod.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:16 AM
Subject: RV-List: Cowl Louvers (was vernatherm success)
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>
>>I too have been fighting high oil temps with an IO-360 in an RV-8A. Can
>>you
>>put me in contact with your source for louvers?
>>
>>Vince Welch
>
>
> I had them made locally using Home Depot aluminum by a guy who
> does it for race cars. Another source is at this link:
>
> http://www.attawayair.com/rv6a.htm
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Farner" <sfarner@gmail.com>
Matt,
I believe that the elbow is not attached to the skin, but rather the landing
gear mount, where the elbow fitting is inserted up the hole on the mount
with the nut on top.
The fuel vent fitting you mentioned is directly attached to the skin.
Scott
www.scottfarner.com
RV-7A Finish
On 2/20/06, Matt Johnson <matt@n559rv.com> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
>
> I was drilling the holes for the landing gear and the brake lines as per
> the template on DWG 34A for the RV-7A. It says to enlarge the pilot
> hole for the brake line as per DWG 28. DWG 28 says to drill it to 5/8" for
> the brake line. The problem is that 5/8" seems waay to big for the
> hardware called out on DWG 36A (AN837-4D 45 deg. Elbow). I already drilled
> the hole to 5/8" per the plans and there is a lot of wiggle
> room. Are the plans wrong on this or am I missing something???
>
> P.S. I noticed that on another fitting (the fuel vent) it calls out 7/16"
> hole in the fuse skin which seems correct...
>
> - Matt
>
>
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| Subject: | FS: uEncoder, g-meter |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
I'm re-doing my panel yet again before even flying the plane, so...
FOR SALE: installed in panel but never used, repacked in original
packaging...
Rocky Mountain Instruments microEncoder
-More info at http://www.rkymtn.com/
-Fully assembled and tested, all current updates & software
-GREAT support from RMI is transferrable, just give them the serial num.
-Kit is $879, sell for $600 including shipping (continental US)
Wultrad G-Meter CA 5
-2.25" Panel mount, unlit
-$210 new, sell for $150 including shipping (continental US)
Picture of both installed in panel...
http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/Panel/DSC_0627.jpg
Contact: Randy Lervold, 360-882-8728 or randy@romeolima.com
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
>I'm about to close up my VS and need to decide if there's anything I want to put
in there.
>
>Paul
>
>You'll want to make the H/S fiberglass tip removable and open up the two forward
tooling holes and put snap bushings in them, then you can add anything you
want at a later date.
>
>
George in Langley BC
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Cc: "Jack Lockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
| Subject: | HELP in Las Cruces |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
The following is from Jack Lockamy (RV-7A):
----------------------------------
Hey Dan,
I tried posting a HELP message on the RV-List but the message was rejected.
I think it is because of the hotel internet connection not being recognized
by the list.
Would you please post the following message for me?: (subject was HELP in
Las Cruces)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I flew into Las Cruces, NM from Camarillo, CA today on a business trip with
my RV-7A and experienced an electrical system failure 30 minutes prior to
reaching the field. My internally-regulated Van's 60 AMP alternator went to
"0" Amps and I Immediately started shedding electrical loads.
Then, while in the pattern here at Las Cruces turning from downwind to
final, the alternator started showing a charge again!
I suspect a loose connection somewhere (was really bumpy today at 9500' MSL
from 200 miles east of LRU to the field...) but I need an OHM meter and an
extra pair of eyes would be nice to do some trouble-shooting before I
attempt my trip home this Friday.
If anyone in the Las Cruces area has an OHM meter I could borrow I would be
most appreciative. The meter is something I will definitely add to my
travel/emergency bag before the next trip!
Thanks in advance,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
N174JL RV-7A 144 hrs.
cell (805) 816-0983
www.jacklockamy.com
DO NOT ARCHIVE
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | Re: FAR Safety question. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
I had the same situation. I am a VFR pilot and my
friend needed some hood time. Wondering if I could
log this time, I went searching for an answer.
I asked the same question of the Avweb people and they
came up with a FAR reg that states that the safety
pilot is allowed to log that time as pilot in command.
The safety pilot is responsible for the safe
operation of the aircraft while the IFR rated pilot is
"under the hood". Understand this, only the time
when the IFR pilot is under the hood are you legally
allowed to log.
Dave
--- Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
> Maybe someone here can answer this question.
>
> A buddy and I fly as IFR safety pilot for each other
> for training. As
> safety pilot, can I log the flight time? If so,
> in what capacity? Pilot in
> command??
>
> Even the local FAA gurus cannot agree on this one.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kim Nicholas
> RV9A
> Auburn, WA
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
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| Subject: | Re: Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
Thanks Scott. I would have never guessed that on my own and I looked at the plans
many times. Thank God for these forums.
- Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Farner" <sfarner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Help on Holes in Fuse for Brake Lines...
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Farner" <sfarner@gmail.com>
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> Matt,
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> I believe that the elbow is not attached to the skin, but rather the
> landing
> gear mount, where the elbow fitting is inserted up the hole on the
> mount
> with the nut on top.
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> The fuel vent fitting you mentioned is directly attached to the skin.
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> Scott
> www.scottfarner.com
> RV-7A Finish
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> On 2/20/06, Matt Johnson <matt@n559rv.com> wrote:
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> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
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> > I was drilling the holes for the landing gear and the brake lines as
> per
> > the template on DWG 34A for the RV-7A. It says to enlarge the pilot
> > hole for the brake line as per DWG 28. DWG 28 says to drill it to
> 5/8" for
> > the brake line. The problem is that 5/8" seems waay to big for the
> > hardware called out on DWG 36A (AN837-4D 45 deg. Elbow). I already
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> > the hole to 5/8" per the plans and there is a lot of wiggle
> > room. Are the plans wrong on this or am I missing something???
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> > P.S. I noticed that on another fitting (the fuel vent) it calls out
> 7/16"
> > hole in the fuse skin which seems correct...
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> > - Matt
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