---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/21/06: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:01 AM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Doug Gray) 2. 04:10 AM - Re: Cockpit Light Bulb (PSILeD@aol.com) 3. 06:39 AM - Re: FAR Safety question. (bdjones1965) 4. 06:51 AM - pitot tube group buy (Evan and Megan Johnson) 5. 06:59 AM - Help in Las Cruces (Kevin Shannon) 6. 08:13 AM - GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton (Tim Olson) 7. 11:30 AM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Folbrecht, Paul) 8. 11:30 AM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Folbrecht, Paul) 9. 12:32 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Dana Overall) 10. 02:43 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Dan) 11. 03:01 PM - Sensenich 72" Propeller (Dale Walter) 12. 04:22 PM - Re: N2D First Flight (bertrv6@highstream.net) 13. 04:23 PM - Re: N2D First Flight (bertrv6@highstream.net) 14. 06:04 PM - i39 Kickoff Flyin (Dana Overall) 15. 07:14 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Tim Bryan) 16. 07:14 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Evan and Megan Johnson) 17. 07:44 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Evan and Megan Johnson) 18. 07:52 PM - Remember Von Alexander? (kelby alexander) 19. 08:15 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Sam Buchanan) 20. 08:16 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Jeff Orear) 21. 08:27 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Vanremog@aol.com) 22. 08:40 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Terry Watson) 23. 09:22 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Stein Bruch) 24. 09:35 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Jerry Springer) 25. 10:28 PM - Replacment Canopy (NEIL HENDERSON) 26. 11:17 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (kelby alexander) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:56 AM PST US From: Doug Gray Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray I have acquired an active helical GPS antenna I plan to put under the VS radome. See: http://www.sarantel.com/products/#s Doug Gray Folbrecht, Paul wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" > > I'm about to close up my VS and need to decide if there's anything I want to put in there. > > I know I don't want a strobe there but have been thinking about antenae. However, since it looks like my 9A will be light up front (320 with Catto prop and RG batt), and I didn't do the "optional" lightening holes in the VS spar, I think I want to avoid any unneccessary weight in the VS at all. Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work well. > > So, those are my thoughts now, but if someone would like to tell me differently I would like to hear it. Thank you. > > Paul > 9A QB #1176 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:31 AM PST US From: PSILeD@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Cockpit Light Bulb --> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com Hi, In the Newark catalog they list the followin numbers as 14 VDC lamps with the same base, T3 1/4: 756 1813 1815 1893 Hope this helps, might find some in auto parts. Paul QB RV-8 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:20 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: FAR Safety question. From: "bdjones1965" --> RV-List message posted by: "bdjones1965" Both pilots can indeed log the time PIC (only when under the hood) if the safety pilot agrees to be the acting pilot in command. Done it many, many times building those multi PIC hours back when I was pursuing the flying career dream. Some may scoff at the concept, but it's very legal and no different than taking advantage of an allowable tax deduction. Bryan Jones - MEI, CFII Houston, Texas Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=13755#13755 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:08 AM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Ok fellow builders, I have had several inquiries about whether or not I would discount my pitot tube kits for a group buy. Since I am currently participating in the Hooker harness group buy I can hardly say no. So heres the deal...I will discount the kit by 25% for a group buy of 10 or more, limited to the stock on hand. Anybody interested should just call or email me directly and add your name to the list. As soon as I hit the 10 mark I will ship them out. Those interested can have a look at the kits at the following link: http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/Other%20Products.htm Cheers... Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530) 351-1776 cell ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:17 AM PST US From: "Kevin Shannon" Subject: RV-List: Help in Las Cruces --> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" Jack, This same scenario happened to me in my 9A a few years ago, the culprit was the 60 amp inline fuse for the alternator I bought from the aeroelectric connection guys, turned out it was bad internally and made intermittent contact so I replaced it with a regular aviation quality breaker. If you have a similar type fuse in your alternator B lead I would look there first. Kevin Shannon I flew into Las Cruces, NM from Camarillo, CA today on a business trip with my RV-7A and experienced an electrical system failure 30 minutes prior to reaching the field. My internally-regulated Van's 60 AMP alternator went to "0" Amps and I Immediately started shedding electrical loads. Then, while in the pattern here at Las Cruces turning from downwind to final, the alternator started showing a charge again! I suspect a loose connection somewhere (was really bumpy today at 9500' MSL from 200 miles east of LRU to the field...) but I need an OHM meter and an extra pair of eyes would be nice to do some trouble-shooting before I attempt my trip home this Friday. If anyone in the Las Cruces area has an OHM meter I could borrow I would be most appreciative. The meter is something I will definitely add to my travel/emergency bag before the next trip! Thanks in advance, Jack Lockamy Camarillo, CA N174JL RV-7A 144 hrs. cell (805) 816-0983 www.jacklockamy.com DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:45 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson At one point on a list I had a reply from someone who actually was using the GDC34A Arinc to serial converter like I am to get TIS traffic on their Chelton or other EFIS from the GTX330 Transponder. Right now that's my last remaining thing to debug that I've identified, and I'm hoping to talk to someone who's got it working to verify settings. Anyone out there with that equipment that can comment? -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:41 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS From: "Folbrecht, Paul" --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" Have to ask - why not hide it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" My VS on my -10 will have a cats whisker VOR/ILS/GS antenna on the top of it. Bill Britton RV-10 Tailcone #40137 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lee" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS > --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee > > >> Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work >> well. > > I am not sure I have heard of people happy with wingtip comm antenna. > VOR yes. > > > Ron Lee > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:41 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS From: "Folbrecht, Paul" --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" You are right. It is pushing 1 yr now since I did my elec. system planning and details are getting fuzzy. I should have taken better notes. It was prelim, and I knew I'd revisit everything. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee > Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to work > well. I am not sure I have heard of people happy with wingtip comm antenna. VOR yes. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:09 PM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Can I install your kit post wing construction? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:09 PM PST US From: Dan Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: Dan Similar question,, Can I install it in a Quick build wing ?? mine will be here in few weeks Thanks, Dan Dana Overall wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Can I install your kit post wing construction? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:01:19 PM PST US From: "Dale Walter" Subject: RV-List: Sensenich 72" Propeller --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" Hi, For sale, Sensenich 72" metal prop and factory spinner (polished aluminum), Model 72FM8S16, cruise pitch, was on RV6A Lyc 0-360 180hp. Like new condition, 570 hrs. Asking $1200 obo dale1rv6@comcast.net 954-651-3000 Thanks, Dale Walter Ft Lauderdale, FL do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:15 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: N2D First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Quoting gerns25@netscape.net: > --> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Rowbotham > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:15:40 +0000 > Subject: RE: RV-List: N2D First Flight > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" > > > Mark, > > CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!! > > Chuck & Dave Rowbotham > RV-8A > > >From: Mark E Navratil > >To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com, > >rv-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RV-List: N2D First Flight > >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:20:47 -0600 > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil > > > > > >Well folks, N2D is now officially an AIR-plane. > > >--Mark Navratil > >Cedar Rapids, Iowa > >RV-8A (s/n 80583) N2D, 1.3 hours flying!! > > > > > > > >Tell us about the first flight, details,,any photos? Congratulations""""" O know the feeling, not too long ago for me... > > > > > > > >bert rv6a Do Not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > http://mail.netscape.com > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:11 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: N2D First Flight --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Quoting Dan : > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan > > Congradulations !!! > > Dan > -8 Rudder > > > Mark E Navratil wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil > > Guys, most if not all of you have already seen my first flight report on > Doug Reeves' or Van's websites, just in case anybody hasn't I thought I'd > copy it to the various Lists I've followed over the past 6 years. Wish I > could remember the names of everybody who has answered questions I have > had, or posted information I have found invaluable during the contruction > of N2D. I often find myself wondering how people built airplanes before > the internet! Thanks for all your help and hope to see many of you in > the air and at fly-ins around the country in the months/years ahead. > > --Mark Navratil > Cedar Rapids, Iowa > RV-8A N2D finally flying... > > ---- > > Well folks, N2D is now officially an AIR-plane. The FAA signed me off > Friday Feb 10th and on Wed morning (Feb 15) I woke up to calm winds and I > said to myself, it's time to go flying. I get out to the airport, push > it out of the hangar, do a careful preflight, and can't think of any > excuse not to go. Don my nomex flight suit and helmet and strap myself > in. "Clear Prop!" Engine lights off and the plane comes alive with a > brief shudder and rumble as the vibration ripples through the aluminum > airframe. Taxi out to the end of the East Tees and dial up ground > control: "Cedar Rapids Ground, RV November Two Delta, Experimental...." > Feels good to say that. Tell them I'm ready to do first flight and want > to depart Three-One and circle the airport to 4000'. No problemo. After > the run-up I call Tower and they give me "Position and Hold Three-One, > regional jet landing Niner." > > I move out onto the runway, line up with the centerline and wait. I > haven't really been apprehensive about flying this bird but as I sit > there for a few moments, it sorta hits me that I am about to take off in > an airplane that has never flown before....that arrived as boxes of parts > and I assembled in my garage. I think to myself, ya know, this is a > little bit crazy... My thoughts are interrupted by the Tower calling out > "RV Two > Delta, cleared for takeoff." I take a deep breath and push the throttle > forward very slowly. I don't bother looking much at the airspeed, since > I > don't know if it will be accurate. I just wait until it has that 'ready > to fly' feeling and pull back gently on the stick. And up we go. I > realize I > still don't have full power in so I open it up all the way and feel the > constant-speed prop bite in and lunge skyward. Now I am just hanging on > for dear life and hoping nothing bad happens until I can get a little > altitude and catch my breath. > > Well, nothing bad happens and eventually my brain catches up with the > airplane. Before I know it I am pushing the nose over at 4K.' My CHT's > are getting a bit high from the climb but nothing out of limits. I > wiggle the stick side-to-side a bit. The wings rock back and forth > briskly in perfect synch with the stick. Gotta love that fighter-like > control response. Flies like an RV.... > > I circle lazily above the airport for a while, adjusting my oil temp > control and keeping a close eye on all the engine vital signs. > Everything looking good. I peer down on the poor schmucks in the > regional jets landing below me and try not to feel smug. Ok, back to the > task at hand....need to do a few stalls just to see if my airspeed is > working right at low speeds. I head northwest out over the open > farmland. After some more maneuvers I pull the power back slowly to > idle....nose coming up....watching the ASI. Slight buffet and clean > break at 50 kts with flaps > up. Try another one with full flaps...breaks right at 45 kts. > Beautiful. Power back in to 24-squared....gotta run it hard for proper > break-in. I > glance at the flight timer and am surprised to see that an hour has gone > by already. > > Time to head back to the aerodrome. I check my six for enemy fighters > and, seeing none, key the mic and tell Cedar Rapids I am ready to return. > They come back with "Wind 040 at 9, left base for runway niner, cleared > to land." I run through my landing checklist. Grip the stick a bit > tighter. Realize that I'm getting close to the field and am still way too > high. Pull the power back to idle and feel the deceleration as the > constant-speed prop and short stubby wings do their thing....get 'er > slowed down enough to throw out the flaps, turn final, add a touch of > power back in to maintain 70 kts and arrest the high sink rate. A bit of > turbulence tossing me around. Nearing the ground now...power all the way > off....flare....and > touchdown. Whew! Not a greaser but not bad either. Big relief as I > roll down the runway, all in one piece... > > Taxi up to my hangar, shut her down and just sit there for a while > letting it all soak in. Quiet satisfaction. Engine making that tick, > tick, tick > sound as it cools. Lovely airplane aroma of heat, oil and avgas. > Nobody's around for picture taking, back-slapping or champagne but that > is fine. > Some guy changing a light bulb outside the hangar comes by and says "nice > airplane!". I don't tell him I have just completed its first > flight....just smile and say "thanks." > > Speaking of thanks, I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the following: > God, for blessing me with the freedom and resources to make this > dream come true. > My patient and supportive wife Kathleen--and my kids--who have > sacrificed a lot to allow me to do this project. > Alan Kritzman for all his help, encouragement (prodding?) and > camaraderie. > Jerry Esquenazi (T-6A IP at Moody AFB) and Karl Heidrich > (Wright-Patt AFB) for going out of their way to help me duplicate the > beautiful paint scheme on the T-6A. > Everett Coleman for kindly donating his way-cool short N-number to > me. > Everybody at Vans Aircraft for the great design and support. > Countless others--too many to name--from EAA Chapter 33 and the > sport aviation community who have shared their time, hardware, advice and > lessons-learned, resulting in a much better airplane than I could have > built without them! > > Hope I can get lots of good flying wx in the weeks/months ahead....I have > 38.7 hours to go before I can get out of my test area... > > --Mark Navratil > Cedar Rapids, Iowa > RV-8A (s/n 80583) N2D, 1.3 hours flying!! > > > Nice report Mark: Again congratulations..... bert rv6a > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:03 PM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: i39 Kickoff Flyin --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" OK, gang I've obviously been checking the weather for this Saturday's i39 Kickoff Flyin Richmond, Madison Kentucky. I'll not go into the vast details of the scheduled forums, vendor sales, high dollar colas.............oh, sorry we don't have any of that:-) Pushed 100 RV's the past two years. We are only good at ramp lies so crank em up, practice those lies and kick off the season. I feel the need, the need for speed!! Now remember, we have been wet here lately so the grass on each side of the taxiway has some soft spots. Off blacktop parking is all on your own, shut em off and push em back, best I can do. If you get in early enough to park on the ramp, be sure and watch carefully. Park your ride as close as you can to the airplane beside you, again be very careful we all want to continue our no incident record. Remember, you are in command but don't dilly dally around, get them off the runway as we will continuously hear, "flight of five inbound for the initial", "flight of two behind the flight of five", "single behind the two with the five and two in sight". You get the drift, be courteous, be direct, be safe, we are all out here to have fun but it is serious with this many high performance airplanes in uncontrolled airspace. The weather is looking better today for Saturday that yesterday, temps in the mid 50's with winds out of th WSW at 12. Madison has 18/36. Can you tell, Elaine and I are getting pumped!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7, Black Magic do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:28 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" Doesn't the quick build wing have one skin still off? It used to be that way. If one is off, you should be able to put in this pitot tube easy enough. Tim -------Original Message------- From: Dan Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: Dan Similar question,, Can I install it in a Quick build wing ?? mine will be here in few weeks Thanks, Dan Dana Overall wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Can I install your kit post wing construction? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:28 PM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Sure, no problem. If the bottom skins are not in place it will not be a big challenge. Even if they are it has been done a few times. The only difficult part would be if the standard pitot location has been drilled...then you have a hole to fill. The quick build should not have this drilled out. The issue is that you do not want to have a pitot line interfering with the aileron bellcrank. The pitot per plans is in the same bay as the bellcrank....any other option needs to be moved. If you are not sure about your wing then please give me a call or email so we can work it out. Cheers..... Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530)247-0375 (530)351-1776 cell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan > > Similar question,, > Can I install it in a Quick build wing ?? > mine will be here in few weeks > Thanks, > Dan > > > Dana Overall wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > Can I install your kit post wing construction? > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:12 PM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: pitot tube group buy --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Sure, no problem. If the bottom skins are not in place it will not be a big challenge. Even if they are it has been done a few times. The only difficult part would be if the standard pitot location has been drilled...then you have a hole to fill. The quick build should not have this drilled out. The issue is that you do not want to have a pitot line interfering with the aileron bellcrank. The pitot per plans is in the same bay as the bellcrank....any other option needs to be moved. If you are not sure about your wing then please give me a call or email so we can work it out. Cheers..... Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530)247-0375 (530)351-1776 cell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bryan" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" > > Doesn't the quick build wing have one skin still off? It used to be that > way. If one is off, you should be able to put in this pitot tube easy > enough. > Tim > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Dan > Date: 02/21/06 14:45:48 > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy > > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan > > Similar question,, > Can I install it in a Quick build wing ?? > mine will be here in few weeks > Thanks, > Dan > > > Dana Overall wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > Can I install your kit post wing construction? > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:42 PM PST US From: kelby alexander Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought. THANKS! Kelby L Alexander Fight the power! BlazeMail.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:23 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan kelby alexander wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander > > > > Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He > died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July > of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really > LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember > him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you > had a chance to see it. Hi Kelby, I remember with fondness your Dad's enthusiasm for his RV-8 and his eagerness to associate with this list. I was building my RV-6 while your -8 was coming together and recall many of the construction issues we all worked through at that time. I never had an opportunity to see your plane since we live on opposite sides of the country, but the RV-8 photo was on my website for several years. I hope the years since the accident have enhanced the great memories you have of your father and the project you shared. I wish you and your family the very best. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:45 PM PST US From: "Jeff Orear" Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" Kelby: I remember Von. I offered to pick him up in Green Bay and get him to Oshkosh one year....obviously before he had the 8 done. He was always very helpful on the RV list, which was much appreciated. A flyin in his memory sure sounds like a great idea. I am sure the guys out on the left coast will be interested. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A N782P Peshtigo, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelby alexander" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? > --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander > > > Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died > in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on > its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list > and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to > hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. > > > Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought > about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory > of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). > Would anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a > thought. > > > THANKS! > > > Kelby L Alexander > > > Fight the power! BlazeMail.com > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:41 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/21/2006 7:55:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, n41va@blazemail.com writes: Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. ======================================= Kelby- I didn't know your dad personally, but knew of him and also his tragic misfortune. I think of him when I run over the few RV mishaps in my mind from time to time. The loss of every RV pilot hits very close to home. Flying RV's is so much fun that we often forget that it can also be dangerous when something goes wrong. I won't be in you area in July, but send all of my good wishes to you and your family. Gary VanRemortel (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 774hrs, Silicon Valley, CA) ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:01 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Hello Kelby, Of course I remember your Dad, although I had just met him at the Scappoose fly-in a month or so before his accident. I also remember him well from this RV list. If you haven't already, to the Matronics website (see the bottom of any RV list message, including this one) and search with your Dad's name. It will bring back memories of the questions and thoughts he had while you and he were building. And it reminds me, at least, of the fine man that he was. Of course you know that, but you should know that many of us who knew him or only or primarily through the list know that too. Your idea of a fly-in lunch sounds like a good one, but I STILL won't be flying by then. Thanks for checking back in on the RV list. Terry RV-8A #80729 baffles Seattle -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kelby alexander Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought. THANKS! Kelby L Alexander Fight the power! BlazeMail.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:38 PM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" This one will bring out the graybeards! I too was building my old slow RV6 at the time. Von was a super asset to this list and many of us communicated with him regularly. Terrible tragedy that anyone who was around then soon won't forget. Never had the good fortune to meet him in person, but then like a lot of people on this list you get to know them. I still remember the post from your sister (I think?) posting on the list with Von's email keeping us all as informed as possible. I'm too far away, but wish I could make it. I know your -8 was a nice one. Won a trophy or two right? Stein. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kelby alexander Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought. THANKS! Kelby L Alexander Fight the power! BlazeMail.com ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:21 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer kelby alexander wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander > > >Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. > > > Hi Kelby, I met your dad at the Twin Oaks flyin breakfast and had some good conversations with him. He was a fine person and I think of him often and the great loss we all experienced. The day he left Arlington he came over to where my wife and I were camped with our RV-6 to say good bye, little did we realize it would be the last good bye. It is hard to believe that happened in 1999 it still seems like yesterday. If a fly in event in your dads memory becomes a reality I would love to attend. I see that July 10th is a Monday so would probably be difficult for working people to attend and the week before that is the Arlington fly in. Maybe you could contact the local EAA 105 and builders group and do something at the Arlington flyin. I know the local builders group always has some type of get together there. Jerry Springer ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:32 PM PST US From: "NEIL HENDERSON" Subject: RV-List: Replacment Canopy --> RV-List message posted by: "NEIL HENDERSON" Listers I need to source a replacement canopy for an RV7. I've just taken over a quick build project and the original builder has made such a bodge job that I need to start again. I'll be ordering the metal parts from Vans but I seem to recall a thread about a year back on a less expensive source for the plexey. I've tried looking in the archives without success. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Neil Henderson RV9 Flying ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:17:39 PM PST US From: kelby alexander Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander Wow thats hard to think about isnt it? You know that was pretty much the only time in 16 years I didnt fly with my dad. I woke up that morning with an invitation to go surfing or go with my dad to Arlignton. I decided without a doubt to go to the airshow but my dad wouldnt let me, he told me I would be too hot in the back of the -8. So he made me go surfing but he promised on his way home he would do a couple fly by's at the beach we were at. When he never came over, I knew something was wrong. Having something for him at Arlington is a great idea, or even a "fly in" in June would be great. I just want to make sure that we can have a good turn out. Im am going to be starting an RV-8 of my own (as soon as I save up the money, hopefully this summer) in his memory. So if anybody has any old tools they would like to donate or sell me or a portion of a hanger to work in ( I will be in the Salem Oregon area) Please drop me an email. I hope to be able to start on the tail kit in a few months. I am 23 so money isnt easy to come by, but I think I can do it over time. So be prepared for a TON of questions. I am going to dedicate it to my Father and every other RV pilot that we have lost over the years. I will keep in touch with you guys about a fly in, if you all would be up to it!? Thanks for your time and kind words, its so nice to know my Dad had a good reputation with you guys and I hope I can follow in his footsteps and be friends with you guys as well. He ALWAYS had only good things to say about this list. And when it was midnight and we were totally stuck on something, he would always say, forget it tonight, Ill just ask the guys on the RV list, they will know the answer. I look forward to meeting as many of you guys as possible over the years. --- Jerry Springer jsflyrv@comcast.net wrote: From: Jerry Springer jsflyrv@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander? -- RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer jsflyrv@comcast.net kelby alexander wrote: -- RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander n41va@blazemail.com Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it. Hi Kelby, I met your dad at the Twin Oaks flyin breakfast and had some good conversations with him. He was a fine person and I think of him often and the great loss we all experienced. The day he left Arlington he came over to where my wife and I were camped with our RV-6 to say good bye, little did we realize it would be the last good bye. It is hard to believe that happened in 1999 it still seems like yesterday. If a fly in event in your dads memory becomes a reality I would love to attend. I see that July 10th is a Monday so would probably be difficult for working people to attend and the week before that is the Arlington fly in. Maybe you could contact the local EAA 105 and builders group and do something at the Arlington flyin. I know the local builders group always has some type of get together there. Jerry Springer Fight the power! BlazeMail.com