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1. 12:06 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (RV6 Flyer)
2. 12:33 AM - Re: Replacment Canopy (Sportypilot)
3. 01:04 AM - Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller (Michael Hilger)
4. 03:58 AM - GRT EIS4000 for Sale (Dana Overall)
5. 04:48 AM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VSOpinions on antenae in VS (charles heathco)
6. 05:08 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (gert)
7. 05:08 AM - Flight Suit for sale (LarryRobertHelming)
8. 05:22 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (rveighta)
9. 05:25 AM - Re: GRT EIS4000 for Sale (Flynlow)
10. 06:50 AM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Evan and Megan Johnson)
11. 07:52 AM - Remember Von Alexander (Alexander, Don)
12. 07:52 AM - Replacment Canopy (Glen Matejcek)
13. 08:12 AM - Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller (James H Nelson)
14. 08:33 AM - Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller (Ron Lee)
15. 08:56 AM - Seeping fuel tank rivet (L Klingmuller)
16. 09:04 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (BRUCE GRAY)
17. 09:05 AM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Tim Bryan)
18. 09:46 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
19. 10:20 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (John Porter)
20. 10:28 AM - Re: Replacment Canopy (Richard Tasker)
21. 10:37 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (John Jessen)
22. 10:46 AM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Pat Hatch)
23. 11:29 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (HCRV6@comcast.net)
24. 01:47 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (rv6fly@bresnan.net)
25. 03:14 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Jeff Point)
26. 03:14 PM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Jeff Point)
27. 04:13 PM - Re: Opinions on antenae in VS (Bill and Tami Britton)
28. 04:13 PM - Re: pitot tube group buy (Bill and Tami Britton)
29. 05:27 PM - still looking to purchase a flying RV-4 (Larry E. James)
30. 05:28 PM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Doug Weiler)
31. 05:41 PM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Phil)
32. 06:45 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Kevin Horton)
33. 06:45 PM - RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving (Tailgummer@aol.com)
34. 06:47 PM - Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet (Charlie England)
35. 06:53 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Matt Johnson)
36. 07:49 PM - Re: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving (Sportypilot)
37. 08:33 PM - Re: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving (Bruce Gray)
38. 08:56 PM - Re: Fiberglass canopy skirt from scratch (Randy Lervold)
39. 10:01 PM - Re: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving (Tailgummer@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Kelby:
I remember seeing your father's airplane at Arlingtion but never met him.
I remember his post and all the help he offered.
I think it would be great to have a get together. It may be possible to
have a "Missing Man" formation at Arllington or Independence. If I can make
it, I am willing to take part as flight lead or wingman.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,839 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died
in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on
its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list
and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to
hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought
about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory
of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would
anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
THANKS!
Kelby L Alexander
Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Replacment Canopy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
http://www.toddscanopies.com/
suppose to be thicker than the vans bubble.. and has other tint options I
think..
Danny..
----- Original Message -----
From: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: RV-List: Replacment Canopy
> --> RV-List message posted by: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
>
> Listers
>
> I need to source a replacement canopy for an RV7. I've just taken over a
> quick build project and the original builder has made such a bodge job
> that I need to start again. I'll be ordering the metal parts from Vans but
> I seem to recall a thread about a year back on a less expensive source for
> the plexey. I've tried looking in the archives without success. Can anyone
> point me in the right direction?
>
>
> Neil Henderson RV9 Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Hilger" <rvsixer@juno.com>
Hi,
For sale, Sensenich 72" metal prop and factory spinner (polished aluminum),
Model 72FM8S16, cruise pitch, was on RV6A Lyc 0-360 180hp. Like new
condition, 570 hrs. Asking $1200 obo
What is "cruise pitch"? 85 inches? 87? Also, has it been repitched?
Mike Hilger
RV-6 N207AM, 800 hours
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| Subject: | GRT EIS4000 for Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I've got an EIS4000 with all probes for sale. $100.00 less than retail and
I'll ship UPS ground the day I get a check.
Give me a shout off list
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, Black Magic
do not archive
On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VSOpinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I tried the wingtip com setup, it worked but not well, especially if target receiver
was on oposite side of plane (I had mine in rt tip). I bit the bulit and
instaled the relatively expensive blade under the fusl, and it gives very good
service. Charlie H
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Yes, I remember Von. I remember cheering him on when he was building.
When he won the award, His questions and insights on the list here.
He was one of the very first to suggest removable pins to hold the
canopee on, this and some other ideas i shamelessly copied into my RV-8.
Happy to hear his memory is kept alive, I for one remember staring at my
kit for a long time after he passed away, asking myself some serious
questions, i decided to built the darn thing, still at it for that matter.
Gert
kelby alexander wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>
>Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in
the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way
home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help
that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts
about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
>
>Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about
having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad.
Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be
up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
>
>
>THANKS!
>
>
>Kelby L Alexander
>
>
>Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flight Suit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I bought this used a year or two ago for my test flights. Now it may serve someone
else.
It is size 40 regular, MIL-C-83141-A Flyer's Overalls, Summer, Fire Resistant.
Clean, all zippers work. Green. Good/Excellent condition.
$44 includes shipping. do not archive
Indiana Larry, RV7 "SunSeeker" 86+ hours flying
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Hi Kelby. I began construction on my RV-8A empennage in late '98 and many
of the guys on this list - Sam Buchanan, Bill Pagan, Kevin Horton, to mention
a few, really inspired me with their direct or indirect help with the many problems
confronting a novice builder. During those days, your father was also one of my
sources of inspiration; I felt some of the same frustrations he did; we were kindred
spirits and I was deeply saddened when I heard he was gone.
I still miss him............
Walt Shipley
Greeneville, TN
-----Original Message-----
>From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>Sent: Feb 21, 2006 10:51 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>
>Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in
the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way
home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help
that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts
about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
>
>Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about
having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad.
Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be
up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
>
>
>THANKS!
>
>
>Kelby L Alexander
>
>
>Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
>
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| Subject: | GRT EIS4000 for Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Flynlow" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
How much is $100 less than retail?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dana Overall
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: RV-List: GRT EIS4000 for Sale
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
I've got an EIS4000 with all probes for sale. $100.00 less than retail and
I'll ship UPS ground the day I get a check.
Give me a shout off list
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, Black Magic
do not archive
On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
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| Subject: | Re: pitot tube group buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Hi Dana, thanks for the inquiry. It is a bit more of a challenge on a
finished wing but of course it can be done. The stiffener plate that goes
inside the wing captures several of the rivets along the spar flange so you
would have to drill those out. Also the pitot needs to be moved one bay
outboard from the aileron bellcrank, so you either have to replace your line
in the wing or splice in a length. Personally I would just re-run the
tubing....its cheap enough. If you are interested forward me your mailing
address and I will get a kit out to you. We already have enough interest to
make the group buy work. In any case if you get the kit and decide you are
not up for the job, just return it. I'm easy that way and you will only be
out shipping.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: pitot tube group buy
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> Can I install your kit post wing construction?
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Remember Von Alexander |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alexander, Don" <Don.Alexander@astenjohnson.com>
Kelby,
What a blessing you must have been to your father! The two of you must
have shared some great father/son time as you went through the building
process. It sounds like your father managed to pass along to you both
the mechanical skills and strong motivation that is required for such a
worthy project. You are surrounded by a fantastic community with the RV
folks...you can count on doors to be opened to you because this
community looks after their own and will be proud to have you flying on
their wing when your ship is ready. I came along after your father
passed on, but some of his ideas have been utilized in my -8. In a
poetic way, he lives on...
Godspeed,
Don Alexander (Almost the same name too!)
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| Subject: | Replacment Canopy |
--> RV-List message posted by: Glen Matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi Neil-
See http://toddscanopies.com/
gm
Time: 10:28:32 PM PST US
From: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
Subject: RV-List: Replacment Canopy
--> RV-List message posted by: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
Listers
I need to source a replacement canopy for an RV7. I've just taken over a quick
build project and the original builder has made such a bodge job that I need to
start again. I'll be ordering the metal parts from Vans but I seem to recall
a thread about a year back on a less expensive source for the plexey. I've tried
looking in the archives without success. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?
Neil Henderson RV9 Flying
Glen Matejcek
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| Subject: | Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Hi Dale,
I forgot to ask you if you have the spacer that will go with the
prop?
Jim Nelson
St. Petersburg
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| Subject: | Re: Sensenich 72" Propeller |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Just my opinion but this should be a private email or use
Do not archive.
Ron Lee
At 09:10 AM 2/22/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>
>Hi Dale,
> I forgot to ask you if you have the spacer that will go with the
>prop?
>
>
>Jim Nelson
>St. Petersburg
>
>
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| Subject: | Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: "L Klingmuller" <l_klingmuller6@earthlink.net>
During my annual inspection I noticed a little blue star-like stain around one
rivet on the right of the lower fuel tank. After a cleaning, sure the blue
stain was there again.
No, it does not drip, just the stain.
What is the best way to seal this seep??
Lothar from Colorado, 6A, 600 hrs.
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| Subject: | Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
Hi Kelby,
I spoke with your dad a couple times on the 8 project you both were working
on at the time. I had an abandon RV4 tail kit I purchased and that's where
it sat until I was inspired by a few folks, to include your dad.
Everyone proclaimed if you like the 4, you'll love the 8. So the 4 tail kit
was sold and the 8 tail kit was ordered. I unfortunately didn't get to share
my excitement with some due to there passing. In a sport that this large
community we know of the dangers, love and excitement all in the same token
that we share. You my friend are among the finest people that share a
passion of creation and completion of dreams.
Please keep us posted on your events and progress of your new 8.
Bruce Gray
RV8 Fuse
#81745
>From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:51:27 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>
>Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died
>in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on
>its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list
>and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to
>hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
>
>Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought
>about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory
>of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would
>anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
>
>
>THANKS!
>
>
>Kelby L Alexander
>
>
>Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
I have heard of others creating a slight vacuum in the tank and then adding
some thinned down proseal. Would have to be pretty clean to start with.
Others will have better details
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: L Klingmuller
Subject: RV-List: Seeping fuel tank rivet
--> RV-List message posted by: "L Klingmuller" <l_klingmuller6@earthlink
net>
During my annual inspection I noticed a little blue star-like stain around
one rivet on the right of the lower fuel tank. After a cleaning, sure the
blue stain was there again.
No, it does not drip, just the stain.
What is the best way to seal this seep??
Lothar from Colorado, 6A, 600 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Kelby,
I didn't know your Dad, but would be happy to attend a fly-in at
Independence, I'm just up the road at Aurora. I am sure many from the local EAA
chapters, Twin Oaks, Independence, Molalla would have guys who knew him. He was
fortunate to have a son such as yourself.
Jerry Cochran
Wilsonville, OR
From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died
in the
Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way
home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the
help
that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your
thoughts
about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Porter" <december29@bellsouth.net>
Kelby,
I remember both your Dad and your airplane. His positive attitude was
neat. We only talked for a few minutes (you know fly-ins) but I remember
him being real "get it finished, you'll love it". I think yours had the
chromed canopy bow and the quality of the airplane was unreal. I saw it at
the Scappoose flyin. Can't believe it's been that long. I actually
firesleeved all my hoses in my -8 thinking about your dad. I have an
inverted oil tank so making all those hoses fit was a chore. We lived in
Newberg, but moved to Atlanta a year ago.
Our son is your age and I remember thinking that I wished he was as
interested in the work as you are. You can be sure lots of guys remember
your dad. Be sensitive to your mom's wishes as you pursue your flying
dream. Put the dates for the flyin on the list. If mine is finished (still
in Newberg) we will be there. Gunning for this Oshkosh.
Good Wishes,
John Porter
#80002
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| Subject: | Re: Replacment Canopy |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
Great canopies and a very good price. Sadly, he doesn't do RV6, 7 or 9s
(side-by-side) yet.
Dick Tasker
Sportypilot wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
>
>http://www.toddscanopies.com/
>
>suppose to be thicker than the vans bubble.. and has other tint options I
>think..
>
>
>Danny..
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:22 AM
>Subject: RV-List: Replacment Canopy
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "NEIL HENDERSON" <neil459@btinternet.com>
>>
>>Listers
>>
>>I need to source a replacement canopy for an RV7. I've just taken over a
>>quick build project and the original builder has made such a bodge job
>>that I need to start again. I'll be ordering the metal parts from Vans but
>>I seem to recall a thread about a year back on a less expensive source for
>>the plexey. I've tried looking in the archives without success. Can anyone
>>point me in the right direction?
>>
>>
>>Neil Henderson RV9 Flying
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| Subject: | Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Kelby:
I did not know your Father, but I have a son who I fly with occasionally,
and who is an avid fan of experimental aircraft and flying in general. I've
often thought about the dangers of flying and how hard it would be to lose
someone to this passionate sport of ours. I cannot imagine what you have
been through, and I admire you for coming forth publicly to gain some
insight about your Father and to help the community grieve through a
gathering. I live in West Linn and am building in a hanger at Lenhardt,
just 10 miles from Aurora, so count me in on supporting the July get
together.
Thanks for you courage,
John Jessen
40328
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kelby alexander
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died
in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on
its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list
and the help that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to
hear your thoughts about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought
about having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory
of my dad. Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would
anybody be up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
THANKS!
Kelby L Alexander
Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
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| Subject: | Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Do a search on Evan Johnson, big-time fuel tank builder; he has a post in
the archives with his procedure for fixing this kind of leak. As I recall,
it involves using a slight vacuum in the tank and thinned proseal. But you
might be able to remove the tank and access the offending rivet through the
inspection plate at the wing-root end. A little dab will do ya.
Pat
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of L Klingmuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: RV-List: Seeping fuel tank rivet
--> RV-List message posted by: "L Klingmuller"
<l_klingmuller6@earthlink.net>
During my annual inspection I noticed a little blue star-like stain around
one rivet on the right of the lower fuel tank. After a cleaning, sure the
blue stain was there again.
No, it does not drip, just the stain.
What is the best way to seal this seep??
Lothar from Colorado, 6A, 600 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
Kelby
I never had the opportunity to meet your dad personally but I could tell what a
fine person he was from his many helpful postings to this list. I was just getting
started with the fuselage of my RV-6 slow build in 1999 and poured over
the list every evening to look for helpful hints and ideas, many of which came
from your dad.
Your dad's accident prompted many builders, myself included, to be doubly careful
with our firewall forward installations and in protecting fuel and oil lines
in our projects. I would make every effort to attend a fly in honoring your
dad. Keep in mind that July 10 is Monday and that could cause problems for some
people.
All my best to you and to your family.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 181 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>
>
> Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in
> the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way
> home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help
> that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts
> about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
>
>
>
> Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about
> having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad.
> Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be up
> to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
>
>
>
>
> THANKS!
>
>
>
>
> Kelby L Alexander
>
>
>
> Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly@bresnan.net
kelby alexander wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He died in
the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999 on its way
home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and the help
that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts
about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
>
>Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I thought about
having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory of my dad.
Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would anybody be
up to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
>
>
>THANKS!
>
>Kelby L Alexander
>
Kelby,
I joined the list around 1995-96 after I had my RV6 flying and
participated for around 4 years trying to help other builders and just
visiting about all things RV. I remember when your dad first joined,
he was so enthused, and when he announced that he was ready to fly. It
didn't seem like it took you and your dad very long to build the 8. I
interacted with a lot of RV guys in the years I was involved with the
list and RVs n general. Almost everyone was a great guy but I think
your dad stood out among them all for me. I think it was his contagious
excitement about everything RV that really stuck in my mind. I never
met your dad but I think his online persona was probably just like he
was in real life. In this case, that would be a very good thing. I
remember thinking back in those days that "here's a guy I'd really like
to meet. What a nice guy and nice airplane." I, like a lot of those
guys who "met" your dad through the list were devastated when he was
killed. It pretty much broke our hearts. I'm tearing up now just
thinking about it.
My best to you and your family.
Bob Skinner
Buffalo, WY
--
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I was just beginning my RV-6 project at the time, but had been a long
time lurker and knew your father from the RV List. Like many others,
after the accident I had some serious second thoughts about this whole
business, but plowed ahead, and I'm glad I did. There were a lot of
discussions on this list at the time, and I believe that an awfully lot
of good things came about as a result. I picked the engine for my plane
based in large part on some very frank discussions regarding the engine
in your dad's plane and it's possible role in the accident.
I'd love to attend the fly-in but I'm in the midwest. Oshkosh is just a
couple weeks after this- if you're coming you might think about a
gathering there. You'd certainly have no trouble getting people to attend.
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee
kelby alexander wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Your approach will depend on where the offending rivet is. If it is one
of the rear baffle-skin rivets, I'd suggest taking the whole tank off
the plane, drilling out the offending rivet (and several either side of
it) and cleaning out and re-riveting the hole with more proseal. If
it's a rib rivet that can be gotten to through the inspection hole, then
try re-sealing it with more proseal. If you cannot get to it, then try
the thinned proseal/ vacuum trick.
One thing to be aware of is that tank leaks are lie roof leaks. Fuel
can get below the proseal in one place and come out a rivet several
inches away. Just because water is leaking into your kitchen, it could
be entering the roof some distance away. Same idea.
Jeff Point
RV-6 with previously leaky tanks, now fixed
Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: Opinions on antenae in VS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
The original builder installed it in the VS and he had to cut notches in the
sides of the skin on the top (small notches) where the antenna will exit. I
could probably cover the notches and change it's location but just am not to
that point yet.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
> <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
>
> Have to ask - why not hide it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
> Britton
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:01 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton"
> <william@gbta.net>
>
> My VS on my -10 will have a cats whisker VOR/ILS/GS antenna on the top
> of
> it.
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 Tailcone
> #40137
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Opinions on antenae in VS
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>>
>>
>>> Many people seem to do the nav & com in the wingtips which seems to
> work
>>> well.
>>
>> I am not sure I have heard of people happy with wingtip comm antenna.
>> VOR yes.
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>> Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: pitot tube group buy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
Wish you had a heated version.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: RV-List: pitot tube group buy
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
> <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
> Ok fellow builders, I have had several inquiries about whether or not I
> would discount my pitot tube kits for a group buy. Since I am currently
> participating in the Hooker harness group buy I can hardly say no. So
> heres the deal...I will discount the kit by 25% for a group buy of 10 or
> more, limited to the stock on hand. Anybody interested should just call or
> email me directly and add your name to the list. As soon as I hit the 10
> mark I will ship them out. Those interested can have a look at the kits at
> the following link:
> http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/Other%20Products.htm
>
> Cheers...
> Evan Johnson
> www.evansaviationproducts.com
> (530) 351-1776 cell
>
>
>
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| Subject: | still looking to purchase a flying RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
Hi All,
I am still looking for a very nice RV-4 to purchase.
Preferences are: Injected O-360, C/S, fit for a tall
pilot, high quality build and maintenance, simple VFR
panel. Other combinations considered.
thanks, and I'd really appreciate anyone spreading the
word !!
--
Larry E. James
Seattle, WA
206-633-3111
larry@ncproto.com
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| Subject: | Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
I had a similar problem on my RV-4. The seeping rivet was on the bottom.
My solution was to drain the tank, drill out the bad rivet and replace with
one of Van's sealed blind rivets with a dab of proseal on it just before
installation. No seeping after 2 years and 250 hours.
Doug Weiler
Hudson, WI
N722DW
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| Subject: | Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil" <phatphill@comcast.net>
A quick easy and cheap way to fix it with Click Bond repair patch.
I put one on my tank several years ago and it hasn't leaked a drop since.
ACS P/N 04-06015 $11.95
----- Original Message -----
From: "L Klingmuller" <l_klingmuller6@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RV-List: Seeping fuel tank rivet
> --> RV-List message posted by: "L Klingmuller"
<l_klingmuller6@earthlink.net>
>
> During my annual inspection I noticed a little blue star-like stain around
one rivet on the right of the lower fuel tank. After a cleaning, sure the
blue stain was there again.
> No, it does not drip, just the stain.
> What is the best way to seal this seep??
> Lothar from Colorado, 6A, 600 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 21 Feb 2006, at 22:51, kelby alexander wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander.
> He died in the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in
> July of 1999 on its way home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he
> really LOVED this list and the help that everybody gave him. If you
> remember him, I would love to hear your thoughts about him and our
> RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
>
Hi Kelby,
It's good to find you here. I've been building my RV-8 for what
seems like forever, and I well remember Von. He was a great guy. We
all helped each other via the list - he helped many people, and he
got a lot of ideas and assistance from the other people here. It was
a terrible shock when we learned about the accident, but not nearly
as bad as for you. It felt like we had lost a family member, and in
such a strange way too.
If you learned anything from your dad, you'll do just fine. Good
luck with your project. You can check out the RV-8 Yahoo Group too,
if you like:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/
Take care,
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com
Just received my Van's Data plate and fuel caps back from Aircraft Engravers
and they are works of art. Wayne turned them around for me within a week
for my upcoming RV8 DAR inspection. I highly recommend Wayne to anyone
considering engraving needs.
John D'Onofrio
(_Tailgummer@aol.com_ (mailto:Tailgummer@aol.com) )
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| Subject: | Re: Seeping fuel tank rivet |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
L Klingmuller wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "L Klingmuller" <l_klingmuller6@earthlink.net>
>
>During my annual inspection I noticed a little blue star-like stain around one
rivet on the right of the lower fuel tank. After a cleaning, sure the blue
stain was there again.
>No, it does not drip, just the stain.
>What is the best way to seal this seep??
>Lothar from Colorado, 6A, 600 hrs.
>
>
I used thinned proseal on one rivet that leaked air when I pressure
tested. You do have to be careful not to use too much vacuum or leave it
applied too long or it will suck a 'hole' in the new sealant.
Mooney drivers have had luck with a wicking sealer (not sure of what
they use; might be the Locktite mentioned below), pulled in with a
slight vacuum like described earlier for thinned proseal.
I haven't used it, but others have said they had good luck with Locktite
Green wicking thread lock.
Good luck...
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
So what caused the crash? I think some of us new guys would like to learn from
this tragedy as well...
- Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: HCRV6@comcast.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
>
> Kelby
>
> I never had the opportunity to meet your dad personally but I could
> tell what a fine person he was from his many helpful postings to this
> list. I was just getting started with the fuselage of my RV-6 slow
> build in 1999 and poured over the list every evening to look for
> helpful hints and ideas, many of which came from your dad.
>
> Your dad's accident prompted many builders, myself included, to be
> doubly careful with our firewall forward installations and in
> protecting fuel and oil lines in our projects. I would make every
> effort to attend a fly in honoring your dad. Keep in mind that July 10
> is Monday and that could cause problems for some people.
>
> All my best to you and to your family.
>
> --
> Harry Crosby
> RV-6 N16CX, 181 hours
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey guys, I was just wondering if you guys remember Von Alexander. He
> died in
> > the Rv-8 that me (his son) and him built. It crashed in July of 1999
> on its way
> > home from the Arlington Airshow. I know he really LOVED this list and
> the help
> > that everybody gave him. If you remember him, I would love to hear
> your thoughts
> > about him and our RV-8 if you had a chance to see it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Also I had another idea that I wanted your guy's feedback on. I
> thought about
> > having a "Fly in Lunch" at the Independence Oregon Airport in memory
> of my dad.
> > Maybe around the 10th of July (when the accident occured). Would
> anybody be up
> > to flying their rv's and join in on it? Just a thought.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > THANKS!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelby L Alexander
> >
> >
> >
> > Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
how much does it cost ? for those three items.. ?
Danny..
----- Original Message -----
From: <Tailgummer@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com
>
> Just received my Van's Data plate and fuel caps back from Aircraft
> Engravers
> and they are works of art. Wayne turned them around for me within a week
> for my upcoming RV8 DAR inspection. I highly recommend Wayne to anyone
> considering engraving needs.
> John D'Onofrio
> (_Tailgummer@aol.com_ (mailto:Tailgummer@aol.com) )
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Their prices are on their web page. www.engravers.net
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sportypilot
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
how much does it cost ? for those three items.. ?
Danny..
----- Original Message -----
From: <Tailgummer@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV Data plate and fuel cap engraving
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com
>
> Just received my Van's Data plate and fuel caps back from Aircraft
> Engravers
> and they are works of art. Wayne turned them around for me within a week
> for my upcoming RV8 DAR inspection. I highly recommend Wayne to anyone
> considering engraving needs.
> John D'Onofrio
> (_Tailgummer@aol.com_ (mailto:Tailgummer@aol.com) )
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass canopy skirt from scratch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
Guys, thought you might be interested in how my skirt turned out. After much
headscratching and pondering the alternatives I ended up using the
posterboard and packing tape method. Not as decorative as the Diet Coke
cartons suggested below by Kyle, but I made it work anyway. I slit the
posterboard in quite a few places to get the curves I needed using first
little strips of packing tape to secure the slits, then larger pieces to
cover it all up as a non-stick surface to lay up on. At first I thought I
might need to make the skirt in two pieces but ended up doing it in one
piece... worked great! If you're interested here's the story.
http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/Airframe/airframe.htm#CanopySkirt
Of course I have a bit of filling and lots of sanding to do now. Thanks for
all the suggestions!
Randy Lervold
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
> You could try tapeing thin cardboard between the canopy and fuselage. My
> cardboard of preference (from making the empennage fairing years ago)
> comes
> from Diet Coke 12-pack cartons...
>
> Several pieces of cardboard, a little packing tape, and volia, female
> mold...
>
> Alternately, you could get yourself some Monokote or similar shrink film,
> cut it to rough shape, tape the ends to the plexi and fuselage, and shrink
> the stuff into the shape you want. Might even work. (Note- put a layer
> of
> packing tape between the monokote and your canopy, or risk color
> transfer)...
>
> KB
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
>>
>> Fiberglass gurus,
>>
>> After trying to get the metal skirt to fit on my RV-3 I'm giving up --
>> I'm
>> convinced God just didn't intend aluminum to be used for compound curves,
>> fiberglass on the other hand is perfectly suited for that. No worries
>> with
>> laying it up and such (West Systems and 9 oz crowfoot e-glass), but what
>> I'd
>> appreciate some ideas on are how to craft a molding surface. I will pop
>> rivet my tipover plexi bubble to the frame in every other hole, which I
>> will
>> later drill out, so there won't need to be an clecos and thus I can layup
>> onto the plexi. But what do I use to create a form from the plexi down to
>> the fuselage, or to bridge the gap along the sides? This is way too much
>> area for the traditional modeling clay we use for intersection fairings.
>>
>> If I use any sort of tape it will create an uneven layup and require lots
>> of
>> sanding and filling, something I'd rather avoid. I was thinking of using
>> expandable foam around the front and rear sections (won't work on the
>> sides)
>> and then sculpting it. Seems like I heard that the cans of foam you can
>> buy
>> at Home Depot aren't good because they contain formaldehyde, not sure why
>> that's bad though.
>> Spruce has Poly-Cell 100 Polyurethane Foam
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/polycel.php
>> and Liquid "X30" Foam
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/x30foam.php
>>
>> Anyone had an experience with either of these? When using foam, do you
>> lay
>> up directly on it, or coat it with something first?
>>
>> And lastly, what would be a good way to create a surface on the sides?
>> Here's a pic of what I'm dealing with...
>> http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/Gallery/DSC_0899.jpg
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Randy Lervold
>> www.rv-3.com
>> www.rv-8.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com
The data plate engraving was $26 and each fuel cap was $25. I used curved
arch lettering on my caps otherwise I believe it would be $20 each cap . The
final result was just superb. He uses a vibro-peening technique for the
stainless data plate (I supplied), and fills the engraving cuts with paint (your
choice of color)and then a clearcoat finish.
I have no affiliation with Aircraft Engravers other than being very
satisfied with results.
John
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