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1. 04:58 AM - Re: PC680's on ebay (RV4WGH@aol.com)
2. 07:22 AM - Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (charles heathco)
3. 07:41 AM - Re: PC680's on ebay (Robin Marks)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Stephen J. Soule)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
6. 07:51 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ed Anderson)
7. 08:01 AM - Comm Antenna placement (Ralph E. Capen)
8. 08:01 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ted on RV list)
9. 08:01 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (John Danielson)
10. 08:04 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Knicholas2@aol.com)
11. 08:13 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ron Lee)
12. 08:20 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ralph E. Capen)
13. 09:21 AM - Re: Comm Antenna placement (Steve Struyk)
14. 09:56 AM - Re: Vans wingtip nav antenna (Jekyll)
15. 10:15 AM - Exhaust system choice for an RV-9 (Gerry Filby)
16. 10:32 AM - Re: Comm Antenna placement (HCRV6@comcast.net)
17. 10:32 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ron Lee)
18. 10:45 AM - Re: Comm Antenna placement (RV6 Flyer)
19. 10:47 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (HCRV6@comcast.net)
20. 11:05 AM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (kelby alexander)
21. 11:15 AM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Ralph E. Capen)
22. 11:15 AM - Re: Vans wingtip nav antenna (Glaeser, Dennis A)
23. 11:27 AM - Re: Comm Antenna placement (c.ennis)
24. 11:57 AM - Fuel tank service bulletin (james frierson)
25. 12:33 PM - Re: Remember Von Alexander? (Jerry Springer)
26. 12:47 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (james frierson)
27. 12:58 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Tim Olson)
28. 12:59 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Ron Lee)
29. 01:23 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Ed Anderson)
30. 01:23 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Jerry Springer)
31. 01:40 PM - Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. (Jeff Dowling)
32. 01:42 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (RV6 Flyer)
33. 02:28 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Ed Anderson)
34. 04:43 PM - Re: PC680's on ebay (Jerry Calvert)
35. 06:16 PM - IO-390 ()
36. 06:47 PM - Van's fuel tank service bulletin and another thought (Bobby Hester)
37. 07:18 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (G McNutt)
38. 07:41 PM - Tank Bulletin (John Fasching)
39. 07:58 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Kevin Horton)
40. 08:04 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (G McNutt)
41. 08:11 PM - Re: Tank Bulletin (Bobby Hester)
42. 08:11 PM - Fuel Tank SB (Darrell Reiley)
43. 08:11 PM - Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin (N901DT)
44. 08:14 PM - Re: Tank Bulletin (Darrell Reiley)
45. 08:18 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Ed Anderson)
46. 08:18 PM - Re: Fuel tank service bulletin (Kelly McMullen)
47. 08:22 PM - Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin (Ed Anderson)
48. 08:32 PM - Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin (Bruce Gray)
49. 08:35 PM - Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin (Darrell Reiley)
50. 08:55 PM - Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin (Darrell Reiley)
51. 11:30 PM - Air Compressor Repair Help (Ted Lumpkin)
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| Subject: | Re: PC680's on ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4WGH@aol.com
I was pleased with both the battery and the delivery of my PC680. I believe
it came from Odyssey World but not sure and the receipt is in the hangar.
The main thing with eBay is to look at the seller's rating in the box in the
upper right of the ad. Also, do they take Pay Pal. No Western Union!
Wally Hunt
Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold air
coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source yesterday. Had
to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the 70mp tail winds), and legs still
shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried adding a 2nd heat muff on the rt exaust,
and 2, is it practicle to try and cover the inspection panels for the flap
actuators. I have insulated the fluting on the baagage bulkhead, but still get
lots of cold air. I got the drawings for the actuator covers, but dont see that
as a good seal. Charlie Heathco
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
As somewhat of an ebay expert (purchased 5 cars, sold 5 cars etc... 400
other purchases/sales on ebay) if you want ultimate protection for a
"small" purchase on ebay you are better off paying for it via Credit
Card as it is MUCH easier to dispute your charges with your CC company
than via PayPal. PP does not want to get in between buyer & seller while
you CC company will pull the $ from the seller on just your say so. As a
buyer you are most protected using your bank CC to make your purchases.
Happy bidding!
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Smiling
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV4WGH@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC680's on ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4WGH@aol.com
I was pleased with both the battery and the delivery of my PC680. I
believe
it came from Odyssey World but not sure and the receipt is in the
hangar.
The main thing with eBay is to look at the seller's rating in the box
in the
upper right of the ad. Also, do they take Pay Pal. No Western Union!
Wally Hunt
Rockford, IL
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| Subject: | Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Hi Charlie,
I bought an insulated USAF flight suit (Nomex and never worn, $100) and wear
felt lined boots, gloves and a hat.
Stephen Soule, RV-6A N227RV
Highgate, Vermont
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of charles heathco
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold
air coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source
yesterday.
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Charlie, we have 2 heat muffs on our 7. We bought it in MSP so they were
being prepared for the COLD. I have no idea what you may encounter in the
process. Appears that it would not be a problem to add it.
Doug
N731RV
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Charlie,
A lot of the cold air may be coming up between your legs from the opening
for the control stick. I get a lot of cold air there - nice in the summer,
but brutal in cold weather. I have seen various schemes to keep the cold
air from entering underneath the floor pan through the aileron push tube
holes in side of fuselage.
I am considering using a control stick boot to at least cut down on the air
flow.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
> --> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
>
> I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold
> air coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source
> yesterday. Had to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the 70mp tail
> winds), and legs still shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried adding a 2nd
> heat muff on the rt exaust, and 2, is it practicle to try and cover the
> inspection panels for the flap actuators. I have insulated the fluting on
> the baagage bulkhead, but still get lots of cold air. I got the drawings
> for the actuator covers, but dont see that as a good seal. Charlie Heathco
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Comm Antenna placement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Fellow Listers,
I have a Comant bent whip com antenna that I am planning for the underside of my
6A.
I know that I want to keep it away from the exhausts so I was initially planning
on installing it in the first bay outboard of the elevator pushrod tunnel -
right under the copilot seat.
Where are the rest of you putting it?
Ralph Capen
RV6A N822AR @ N06 90% done/to go
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| Subject: | Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted on RV list" <ted_french@telus.net>
I built 2 RV-6A's which I flew in northern British Columbia.
I installed two heat muffs with two entrances into the cockpit.
I insulated all the side walls including under the panel.
I installed boots around the aileron push tubes (the biggest offender for
cold air)
I put weatherstrip under the rear skirt on the slider canopy as well as
along the side skirts. (2nd biggest offender)
I never did the baggage bulkheads or the flap actuator rods.
The plane was comfortable to fly down to about -15 or -20 deg celsius.
Do Not Archive
Ted French
RV-10 fuselage (finish kit here)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of charles heathco
Sent: February 24, 2006 7:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold
air coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source
yesterday. Had to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the 70mp tail
winds), and legs still shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried adding a 2nd heat
muff on the rt exaust, and 2, is it practicle to try and cover the
inspection panels for the flap actuators. I have insulated the fluting on
the baagage bulkhead, but still get lots of cold air. I got the drawings for
the actuator covers, but dont see that as a good seal. Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
I had the same problem 4 years ago when I flew to Rochester, MN. It was
10F below when I landed. My daughter and I were dawn cold.
Later I added a second heat muff, built aileron boots to cover the push
tube exit hole. I also insulated the panel where the flap horn exits.
I have a slider and I placed some thin weather stripping at the very
edge of the back of the canopy.
Another thing is the air coming in along the side of the canopy. A
simple fix is to get some 1/2" foam pipe insulation, and cut to lengths
that will sit between the front part of the slider and the locking block
in back. Simply put these in place after you have the canopy closed and
are ready to taxi.
After these fixes we flew very comfortably when temperatures were below
0 F.
PS I don't recommend flying when temperatures at 10 below F.
John L. Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of charles heathco
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing
cold air coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat
source yesterday. Had to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the
70mp tail winds), and legs still shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried
adding a 2nd heat muff on the rt exaust, and 2, is it practicle to try
and cover the inspection panels for the flap actuators. I have insulated
the fluting on the baagage bulkhead, but still get lots of cold air. I
got the drawings for the actuator covers, but dont see that as a good
seal. Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
There is an amazing amount of air that flows from around the edges of the
canopy - especially the rear area. I put weather strip around the canopy, boots
around the airleron control rods thru the fusealge, and boots on the stick.
The combination made an enormous difference.
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 08:20 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
>
>I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold
>air coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source
>yesterday. Had to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the 70mp tail
>winds), and legs still shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried adding a 2nd
>heat muff on the rt exaust, and 2, is it practicle to try and cover the
>inspection panels for the flap actuators. I have insulated the fluting on
>the baagage bulkhead, but still get lots of cold air. I got the drawings
>for the actuator covers, but dont see that as a good seal. Charlie Heathco
My 6A had a second heat muff and it did nothing but negatively impact
cooling air exiting the airplane (with oil temp problems). I now just
use one heat muff and it is probably better.
I also have the drafty issues and fixing those is among the best
remedies (along with Stephen's warm clothing comment).
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I just ordered my exhaust system from Vetterman - with dual heater/mufflers. It
gets cold here on the DelMarVa peninsula...
I'm also interested in what everyone else has done / is doing to cure this.....
Ralph Capen
-----Original Message-----
From: charles heathco <cheathco@junct.com>
Sent: Feb 24, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
I had to stuff things in around the seat to cut down on the freezing cold air
coming in from various places overcomming the anemic heat source yesterday. Had
to come down to 11500 ( taking advantage of the 70mp tail winds), and legs still
shaking. 2 questions. Anybody tried adding a 2nd heat muff on the rt exaust,
and 2, is it practicle to try and cover the inspection panels for the flap
actuators. I have insulated the fluting on the baagage bulkhead, but still get
lots of cold air. I got the drawings for the actuator covers, but dont see that
as a good seal. Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna placement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
Ralph,
I've got the same antennas but they're on an -8. Mine are also on the belly
and they both work great in that position. I know that if you mount more
than one, they need to be placed several feet apart. The "radio heads" on
the list could explain why that needs to be done and what the distance
should be. I ended up putting one ahead of the other several feet apart
based upon advice from a avionics shop.
Steve Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8, 32 Hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
<RV7A@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: RV-List: Comm Antenna placement
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> I have a Comant bent whip com antenna that I am planning for the underside
> of my 6A.
>
> I know that I want to keep it away from the exhausts so I was initially
> planning on installing it in the first bay outboard of the elevator
> pushrod tunnel - right under the copilot seat.
>
> Where are the rest of you putting it?
>
> Ralph Capen
> RV6A N822AR @ N06 90% done/to go
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vans wingtip nav antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jekyll" <rcitjh@aol.com>
On a related issue: how should the copper tape be oriented in the tip, laterally
or longitudinally? The directions just say horizontally. I asked Vans and they
said they didn't know, an answer which I found suprising since they sell the
darned thing.
Jekyll
7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=14710#14710
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| Subject: | Exhaust system choice for an RV-9 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
Hi Folks,
I'd appreciate some thoughts on the exhaust system choices
available for my RV9 which is going to be fitted with an
Aerosport IO-320 D1A.
Van's sells the Vetterman 4 into 1 but I also see out there the
Aircraft Exhaust Technologies kits.
Why 4 into 1 ?
Why Crossover ?
Do the AET mufflers reduce power ?
Appreciate any comments you can offer to get me started on this
decision ... Thx.
__g__
==========================================================
Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna placement |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
I put mine on the belly about eight inches forward of the baggage bulkhead and
just outside the elevator pushrod tunnel on the left side. This gave it lots
of ground plane area and was far enough from the radio head. It works great in
this location. I have never had a com problem even on the ground in locations
where others with belly mounted antennas have sometimes had reception difficulties.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 183 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> I have a Comant bent whip com antenna that I am planning for the underside of
my
> 6A.
>
> I know that I want to keep it away from the exhausts so I was initially planning
> on installing it in the first bay outboard of the elevator pushrod tunnel -
> right under the copilot seat.
>
> Where are the rest of you putting it?
>
> Ralph Capen
> RV6A N822AR @ N06 90% done/to go
>
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 09:18 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
>I just ordered my exhaust system from Vetterman - with dual
>heater/mufflers. It gets cold here on the DelMarVa peninsula...
>
>I'm also interested in what everyone else has done / is doing to cure
>this.....
I would run each heat muff to a separate entry into the cockpit.
One for pilot and one for pax.
Ron
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| Subject: | Comm Antenna placement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
I have two of the same antenna that your are planning. Mine are located
just forward of the Wing Spar as close to the outboard side as the could be.
You may need to move inward 6" or so to clear the landing gear on the -6A.
They work great in this location. This location simplifies installation
in that you do not need to route the coax aft of the spar.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,832 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Comm Antenna placement
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Fellow Listers,
I have a Comant bent whip com antenna that I am planning for the underside
of my 6A.
I know that I want to keep it away from the exhausts so I was initially
planning on installing it in the first bay outboard of the elevator pushrod
tunnel - right under the copilot seat.
Where are the rest of you putting it?
Ralph Capen
RV6A N822AR @ N06 90% done/to go
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
Kelby, have you considered that July 1st, Saturday, is right in the middle of the
Arlington fly-in?
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 183 hours
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From: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
>
>
>
> I would love it if you could make the Fly-In. We have decided on July 1st at
10.
> A.M. at the Independence Airport. Please let me know if you can make it for
> sure. We are having some trophies made, Best Paint, Best Interior, Best of Show.
> I will wait to hear from you, thanks a lot and I look forward to meeting you!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander <n41va@blazemail.com>
Oh yeah, I will have to re-think that date, any suggestions?
Kelby
--- HCRV6@comcast.net wrote:
From: HCRV6@comcast.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Remember Von Alexander?
-- RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
Kelby, have you considered that July 1st, Saturday, is right in the middle of the
Arlington fly-in?
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 183 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: kelby alexander n41va@blazemail.com
-- RV-List message posted by: kelby alexander n41va@blazemail.com
I would love it if you could make the Fly-In. We have decided on July 1st at 10.
A.M. at the Independence Airport. Please let me know if you can make it for
sure. We are having some trophies made, Best Paint, Best Interior, Best of Show.
I will wait to hear from you, thanks a lot and I look forward to meeting you!
Fight the power! BlazeMail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
That was part of that plan...I also have injection so the induction system doesn't
need heat.......
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Sent: Feb 24, 2006 1:31 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>At 09:18 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I just ordered my exhaust system from Vetterman - with dual
>>heater/mufflers. It gets cold here on the DelMarVa peninsula...
>>
>>I'm also interested in what everyone else has done / is doing to cure
>>this.....
>
>I would run each heat muff to a separate entry into the cockpit.
>
>One for pilot and one for pax.
>
>Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Vans wingtip nav antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
It doesn't really matter - orient it whatever way fits best. The
lateral vs. longitudinal direction can't matter, or else performance
would depend on the direction you are flying :-) As long as the antenna
is aligned with the polarization of the signal (horizontal for Nav,
vertical for Com) you're good to go.
I'm using a Bob Archer Nav antenna in my wingtip (many reports of
excellent reception). I've never seen any pictures or reports on the
Van's Nav antenna.
Dennis Glaeser
7A Fuselage
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jekyll" <rcitjh@aol.com
> On a related issue: how should the copper tape be oriented in the tip,
laterally or longitudinally? The directions just say horizontally. I
asked Vans and they said they didn't know, an answer which I found
suprising since they sell the darned thing.
Jekyll 7A
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antenna placement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "c.ennis" <c.ennis@insightbb.com>
Ralph,
I put mine behind the rear baggage bulkhead, on the centerline..works like
a charm.
Charlie Ennis
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
Vans has just issued a service bulletin to be compled with BEFORE next
flight on all RVs. Go to there web site and check it out...
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Remember Von Alexander? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
HCRV6@comcast.net wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
>
>Kelby, have you considered that July 1st, Saturday, is right in the middle of
the Arlington fly-in?
>
>--
>Harry Crosby
>RV-6 N16CX, 183 hours
>
>
>
Actually it is not, it starts on the 5th.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
I don't think this includes the 10s
Scott
>From: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006
>13:54:27 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
>
>Vans has just issued a service bulletin to be compled with BEFORE next
>flight on all RVs. Go to there web site and check it out...
>
>Scott
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Lucky....dodged that bullet. Let me correct you...
"All single and 2 place RV's".
RV-10's need not worry.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
james frierson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
>
> Vans has just issued a service bulletin to be compled with BEFORE next
> flight on all RVs. Go to there web site and check it out...
>
> Scott
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
I had flown for 5 years and one day that flop tube did indeed back off its
fitting and I ended up doing a 12 mile glide which fortunately ended up
with an uneventful landing on an airport. So even though I have really
tighten that son of a gun, I will probably bite the bullet and safety wire
according to the bulletin. Once is more than enough.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
>
> Ron Lee
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Ron Lee wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
>
>Ron Lee
>
>
>
>
How stupid is it to keep flying an aircraft when apparently there were
indications that all was not well.
"The operator of this aircraft reported that, on
multiple occasions, fuel would not feed from the affected tank when the
level reached
approximately one third full. This would be an indication that the
associated fuel pickup
was loose or was not attached to the bulkhead fitting inside the tank."
do not archive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Freezin high up in drafty 6A. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Vans recommends plumbing the 2 heat muffs in series.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Freezin high up in drafty 6A.
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> At 09:18 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I just ordered my exhaust system from Vetterman - with dual
>>heater/mufflers. It gets cold here on the DelMarVa peninsula...
>>
>>I'm also interested in what everyone else has done / is doing to cure
>>this.....
>
> I would run each heat muff to a separate entry into the cockpit.
>
> One for pilot and one for pax.
>
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
PLEASE ARCHIVE this.
----Original Message Follows----
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Ron Lee wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
>
>Ron Lee
>
>
>
>
>
How stupid is it to keep flying an aircraft when apparently there were
indications that all was not well.
"The operator of this aircraft reported that, on multiple occasions, fuel
would not feed from the affected tank when the level reached approximately
one third full. This would be an indication that the associated fuel pickup
was loose or was not attached to the bulkhead fitting inside the tank."
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
If your flop tube falls off you have approx 3.5 gallons that you can not use
in that tank (Rv-6A). After my flop tube fell off (I initially thought that
it had hung up on something), I would fill that tank approx 1/2 full and
while flying tried to rock the wings and shake loose the "hung up" flop
tube. But, every time the fuel level got down to 3.5 gallons in that tank,
the engine would start to sputter. I agree its hard to understand why an
individual would not notice that he could not use the last 3.5 gallons and
fly depending on it. I guess if you had burnt all the fuel in your good
tank and expected to make it to the airport on the flop tube tank - it could
catch you if it were the first instance after it had falling off. While
making the flights trying to "unhang" the flop tube, I always took off and
landed using the other tank.
I finally bit the bullet and took the tank off, opened it up expecting to
find the tube hung up - but, much to my surprise it was not hung up and (I
had forgotten) I found that I had installed all the anti-hang fixes that Van
suggested. Then I reached in and picked up the flop tube - really puzzled -
until it followed my hand out the access hole. Came loose after 160 hours
of flight time.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
>
> PLEASE ARCHIVE this.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:21:28 -0800
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
>
> Ron Lee wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
> >
> >http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
> >
> >Ron Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> How stupid is it to keep flying an aircraft when apparently there were
> indications that all was not well.
>
> "The operator of this aircraft reported that, on multiple occasions, fuel
> would not feed from the affected tank when the level reached approximately
> one third full. This would be an indication that the associated fuel
> pickup
> was loose or was not attached to the bulkhead fitting inside the tank."
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: PC680's on ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
go to ebay and search for pc680 and it will take you to the two sources.
Jerry Calvert
RV6
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rquinn1@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC680's on ebay
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rquinn1@aol.com
>
> What are the sources.
> We am on our second Odsey (The first one was still OK but after 5 years we
> decided to give it a break) I would go with the cheaper one assuming they
had a
> valid track record.
> Rollie and Rod
> RV6A 799RQ
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: <travishamblen@cox.net>
I have installed my IO-390 and started all the firewall forward stuff. Soon to
be working on the baffles, can't believe that I am getting SO SO close to flying
this thing! Can any of the guys who installed the IO-390 on their RV send
me an e-mail? I am looking to exchange some pictures of your work (i.e.... FAB
mods, baffling, or anything else that had to be modified to accommodate the
IO-390). So far the 390 has presented no problems, only a couple minor (and I
do mean minor) differences from installing an IO-360A1B6. I am trying to do
a little advance homework so that when I get to anything that may need some head
scratching I have already considered all my options.
Just for the record, Barrett Precision Engines is one of the most honest down to
earth engine people I have ever dealt with, and the engine was on time, and
VERY VERY SEXY! If you are in the market for an engine I would give them a call.
Nothing like doing business with a family ran business where everyone/anyone
will bendover backwards to help you, makes you feel like one of their family,
and gives you a better than fair price. If you are considering using Barrett
and need a reference, be sure to drop me an e-mail.
Travis
TravisHamblen@cox.net
RV-7A (everything is done but the firewall forward)
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| Subject: | Van's fuel tank service bulletin and another thought |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Well it looks like I'll be going into the tanks again. I had originally
installed the cork gaskets but after reading about so many people taking
them off, I decided to remove mine, I did that a few months ago.
Now Van's has issued this mandatory service bulletin:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
It requires me to open the tanks again. Sense I've got to do it, I am
seriously things about adding these low fuel warning sensors also:
http://www.aircraftextras.com/FSensorInstall.htm
What do people who's using these think about them?
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Looks to me like Van has hired a ex FAA lawyer to protect the company
from litigation!
One question for you Ed, did you switch to the other tank, seems to me
that should re-establish fuel flow.
George in Langley BC
Ed Anderson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
>snip ---- one day that flop tube did indeed back off its
>fitting and I ended up doing a 12 mile glide which fortunately ended up
>with an uneventful landing
>
>Ed Anderson
>Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Fasching" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
I "lost" my Adobe pdf program and am having trouble downloading another one...can
someone tell me the quick and easy facts? I assume from the messages that it
applies to tanks with flop tubes only...is that correct?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
Well, there have been at least two events. Maybe more. So there are
good odds that this failure will happen again. I'm not sure the
"perform SB before next flight" is warranted, but it would be prudent
to operate as if this failure could occur on one tank on the next
flight until both fuel pickups are safetied. I.e. increase the
assumed unusable fuel to allow a safe landing even if one fuel pickup
becomes undone. The hard part is knowing how much extra unusable
fuel to assume - Ed's data suggests 3.5 USG is the value for an
inverted tank pickup, but we don't know how much error this
measurement has, nor do we know what unusable fuel to assume for a
regular fuel pickup, if it becomes undone.
I'm a bit torqued as I just put one of my access covers back on last
week, after fixing a tank leak. But I'll pull them and do the SB
before first flight.
Kevin Horton
On 24 Feb 2006, at 22:21, G McNutt wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
>
>
> Looks to me like Van has hired a ex FAA lawyer to protect the company
> from litigation!
>
> One question for you Ed, did you switch to the other tank, seems to me
> that should re-establish fuel flow.
>
> George in Langley BC
>
> Ed Anderson wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
>> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> snip ---- one day that flop tube did indeed back off its
>> fitting and I ended up doing a 12 mile glide which fortunately
>> ended up
>> with an uneventful landing
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Re; Vans Mandatory Fuel Tank Service Bulletin
I have just read this Mandatory Service Bulletin and I think it is going
way overboard, someone at Vans has made a big Boo-Boo as far as customer
relations goes.
It seems to me that the Time of Compliance - "Before further flight" is
extremely harsh for all aircraft that have properly functioning fuel
system(s).
(1) The MSB does not make any provision to ferry your aircraft back to
your home airport or to a maintenance base.
(2) What about alternate compliance?? - seems to me if I drain all the
fuel out of the tanks, then add one gallon back into each tank and do a
engine run-up using each tank I would soon know if the fuel pick-up
sucking air, loose or missing. If I pass this test seems the MSB could
wait for the next annual inspection.
My insurance and/or CofA may not be valid if I fly my aircraft this
weekend, thank you Van, and you can bet I will e-mail and telephone
Van's first thing Monday morning, and I would encourage everyone who is
effected by the MSB to call Van about this heavy handed MSB.
George in Langley BC
6A - 400 hrs
7A cowlings
>
>http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
No it is for both:
Subject: Safetying of standard and flop-type fuel pickup tubes.
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-)
John Fasching wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "John Fasching" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
>
>I "lost" my Adobe pdf program and am having trouble downloading another one...can
someone tell me the quick and easy facts? I assume from the messages that
it applies to tanks with flop tubes only...is that correct?
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
A properly torqued flare nut will not come loose. Lock it down and be
done. There are some good instructions on this Thread on the
Vansairforce.net for drilling if you wish to punish yourself.
Darrell
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| Subject: | Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "N901DT" <N901DT@houston.rr.com>
I feel that everyone on the list should contact Van's and encourage them
change the bulletin to a service letter or revision. At very the least they
should change the compliance time to the next condition inspection with a
note to monitor the situation for unusual lost of fuel pressure indications.
Emergency A.D.,s and standard A.D.'s for certified aircraft are permitted to
offer a different method of compliance.
The service bulletin looks like an over reaction. It is a situation that
should be brought to the attention of all builders/owners. The problem with
a mandatory service bulletin has to do with INSURANCE coverage. As we all
know, we are not required to comply with service bulletins and A.D.'s
however we are required to address the issue. An Insurance company would
likely deny a claim for any accident if the service bulletin was not
completed as defined. This service bulletin amounts to an emergency A.D.
since is requires the modification to be completed before any further
flights.
According to the bulletin the pilot had a reoccurring problem and apparently
took little or no corrective actions. Is this a problem that is wide
spread? With thousands of RV's flying for many years it's hard to believe
that this is a common problem. I don't feel that is fair to effectively
ground the entire fleet because an isolated case.
David Grover
RV-8
flying
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
The SB qoutes both types... I can fax it to you?
Darrell
John Fasching <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Fasching"
I "lost" my Adobe pdf program and am having trouble downloading another one...can
someone tell me the quick and easy facts? I assume from the messages that it
applies to tanks with flop tubes only...is that correct?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
"Do Not Archive"
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
No, George, I remain a bit embarrassed to say I talked my self out of doing
just that. My poor rationale was that I knew I had 3.5 gallons left in that
tank and therefore the problem must be something else other than the lack of
fuel. Of course, it turns out I DID have 3.5 gallons left - just couldn't
use it. Having been talking with another pilot the day before about cases
of the slosh compound peeling off and plugging fuel filters, I convinced
myself that my fuel filter had plugged and therefore switching tanks would
not do any good. Of course, if I had done what ever instructor I ever flew
with told me to do and switched tanks - it would not have been an event. I
tell folks sometimes absolute knowledge is not necessarily a good thing.
Had I been less certain about the fuel in that tank ( I have a fuel
totalizer) then I may have switched.
I am happy to say that the decisions make after that bad one were
considerably better {:>)
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "G McNutt" <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel tank service bulletin
> --> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
>
>
> Looks to me like Van has hired a ex FAA lawyer to protect the company
> from litigation!
>
> One question for you Ed, did you switch to the other tank, seems to me
> that should re-establish fuel flow.
>
> George in Langley BC
>
> Ed Anderson wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>>snip ---- one day that flop tube did indeed back off its
>>fitting and I ended up doing a 12 mile glide which fortunately ended up
>>with an uneventful landing
>>
>>Ed Anderson
>>Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Well, I don't know in the experimental homebuilt world just how
mandatory a service bulletin can be made by a kit manufacturer.
Afterall, you are the aircraft manufacturer, not Vans.
In the certified world, so called mandatory service bulletins are
meaningless to Part 91 operations, unless there is a financial
incentive(such as Hartzell is offering big discounts on their hub SB
that is expected to become and AD, but only for the next 3 months). You
can simply ignore them, unless the FAA issues an AD to enforce the SB. I
don't know if that is true for homebuilt, but would be surprised if it
isn't.
G McNutt wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
>
>
> Re; Vans Mandatory Fuel Tank Service Bulletin
>
> I have just read this Mandatory Service Bulletin and I think it is going
> way overboard, someone at Vans has made a big Boo-Boo as far as customer
> relations goes.
> It seems to me that the Time of Compliance - "Before further flight" is
> extremely harsh for all aircraft that have properly functioning fuel
> system(s).
>
> (1) The MSB does not make any provision to ferry your aircraft back to
> your home airport or to a maintenance base.
>
> (2) What about alternate compliance?? - seems to me if I drain all the
> fuel out of the tanks, then add one gallon back into each tank and do a
> engine run-up using each tank I would soon know if the fuel pick-up
> sucking air, loose or missing. If I pass this test seems the MSB could
> wait for the next annual inspection.
>
> My insurance and/or CofA may not be valid if I fly my aircraft this
> weekend, thank you Van, and you can bet I will e-mail and telephone
> Van's first thing Monday morning, and I would encourage everyone who is
> effected by the MSB to call Van about this heavy handed MSB.
>
> George in Langley BC
> 6A - 400 hrs
> 7A cowlings
>
>> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
>>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
After my experience, I burn all fuel out of the tank with flop tube before
switching to the other tank. That way should the improbable happen AGAIN, I
will still have 18 gallons left in the other tank. You actually have more
reachable fuel if the flop tube falls off than if the regular pick up should
fall off its fitting as its fitting is near the top of the tank.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "N901DT" <N901DT@houston.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin
> --> RV-List message posted by: "N901DT" <N901DT@houston.rr.com>
>
> I feel that everyone on the list should contact Van's and encourage them
> change the bulletin to a service letter or revision. At very the least
> they
> should change the compliance time to the next condition inspection with a
> note to monitor the situation for unusual lost of fuel pressure
> indications.
> Emergency A.D.,s and standard A.D.'s for certified aircraft are permitted
> to
> offer a different method of compliance.
>
> The service bulletin looks like an over reaction. It is a situation that
> should be brought to the attention of all builders/owners. The problem
> with
> a mandatory service bulletin has to do with INSURANCE coverage. As we all
> know, we are not required to comply with service bulletins and A.D.'s
> however we are required to address the issue. An Insurance company would
> likely deny a claim for any accident if the service bulletin was not
> completed as defined. This service bulletin amounts to an emergency A.D.
> since is requires the modification to be completed before any further
> flights.
>
> According to the bulletin the pilot had a reoccurring problem and
> apparently
> took little or no corrective actions. Is this a problem that is wide
> spread? With thousands of RV's flying for many years it's hard to believe
> that this is a common problem. I don't feel that is fair to effectively
> ground the entire fleet because an isolated case.
>
> David Grover
> RV-8
> flying
>
>
>
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| Subject: | We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
It seems to me that Van's MSB has no force in law except to cover his
behind. You are the manufacturer, Van's is only a parts supplier. I get
several letter a year from a well known vacuum pump manufacturer telling me
to take his product off my airplane. I laugh and throw them away. Van's MSB
should prompt you to look at the fuel pickups at your convenience, note it
in the log book and move on. It doesn't ground your airplane, only you or
the FAA can do that.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N901DT
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin
--> RV-List message posted by: "N901DT" <N901DT@houston.rr.com>
I feel that everyone on the list should contact Van's and encourage them
change the bulletin to a service letter or revision. At very the least they
should change the compliance time to the next condition inspection with a
note to monitor the situation for unusual lost of fuel pressure indications.
Emergency A.D.,s and standard A.D.'s for certified aircraft are permitted to
offer a different method of compliance.
The service bulletin looks like an over reaction. It is a situation that
should be brought to the attention of all builders/owners. The problem with
a mandatory service bulletin has to do with INSURANCE coverage. As we all
know, we are not required to comply with service bulletins and A.D.'s
however we are required to address the issue. An Insurance company would
likely deny a claim for any accident if the service bulletin was not
completed as defined. This service bulletin amounts to an emergency A.D.
since is requires the modification to be completed before any further
flights.
According to the bulletin the pilot had a reoccurring problem and apparently
took little or no corrective actions. Is this a problem that is wide
spread? With thousands of RV's flying for many years it's hard to believe
that this is a common problem. I don't feel that is fair to effectively
ground the entire fleet because an isolated case.
David Grover
RV-8
flying
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| Subject: | Re: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I haven't received any formal notifications from Van's regarding this SB. Wait
for your notification. You're not responsible for checking Van's website on a
daily basis for SB's.
Darrell
N901DT <N901DT@houston.rr.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "N901DT"
I feel that everyone on the list should contact Van's and encourage them
change the bulletin to a service letter or revision. At very the least they
should change the compliance time to the next condition inspection with a
note to monitor the situation for unusual lost of fuel pressure indications.
Emergency A.D.,s and standard A.D.'s for certified aircraft are permitted to
offer a different method of compliance.
The service bulletin looks like an over reaction. It is a situation that
should be brought to the attention of all builders/owners. The problem with
a mandatory service bulletin has to do with INSURANCE coverage. As we all
know, we are not required to comply with service bulletins and A.D.'s
however we are required to address the issue. An Insurance company would
likely deny a claim for any accident if the service bulletin was not
completed as defined. This service bulletin amounts to an emergency A.D.
since is requires the modification to be completed before any further
flights.
According to the bulletin the pilot had a reoccurring problem and apparently
took little or no corrective actions. Is this a problem that is wide
spread? With thousands of RV's flying for many years it's hard to believe
that this is a common problem. I don't feel that is fair to effectively
ground the entire fleet because an isolated case.
David Grover
RV-8
flying
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| Subject: | We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Bruce is correct here. The truth be known this is a CYA attempt on Van's part.
You are the builder. Van's is the DESIGNER. Hince his liability comes into play.
Darrell
Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray"
It seems to me that Van's MSB has no force in law except to cover his
behind. You are the manufacturer, Van's is only a parts supplier. I get
several letter a year from a well known vacuum pump manufacturer telling me
to take his product off my airplane. I laugh and throw them away. Van's MSB
should prompt you to look at the fuel pickups at your convenience, note it
in the log book and move on. It doesn't ground your airplane, only you or
the FAA can do that.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N901DT
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: We need Change Van's fuel tank service bulletin
--> RV-List message posted by: "N901DT"
I feel that everyone on the list should contact Van's and encourage them
change the bulletin to a service letter or revision. At very the least they
should change the compliance time to the next condition inspection with a
note to monitor the situation for unusual lost of fuel pressure indications.
Emergency A.D.,s and standard A.D.'s for certified aircraft are permitted to
offer a different method of compliance.
The service bulletin looks like an over reaction. It is a situation that
should be brought to the attention of all builders/owners. The problem with
a mandatory service bulletin has to do with INSURANCE coverage. As we all
know, we are not required to comply with service bulletins and A.D.'s
however we are required to address the issue. An Insurance company would
likely deny a claim for any accident if the service bulletin was not
completed as defined. This service bulletin amounts to an emergency A.D.
since is requires the modification to be completed before any further
flights.
According to the bulletin the pilot had a reoccurring problem and apparently
took little or no corrective actions. Is this a problem that is wide
spread? With thousands of RV's flying for many years it's hard to believe
that this is a common problem. I don't feel that is fair to effectively
ground the entire fleet because an isolated case.
David Grover
RV-8
flying
"Do Not Archive"
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved
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| Subject: | Air Compressor Repair Help |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
I purchased a 5hp, 26 gallon air compressor from Harbor Freight. It worked well
for a year, but now will barely turnover and will not develop full rpm and,
therefore, will not compress air. A friend of mine tells me the compressor
is trying to start using "run" current. I've checked the circuit breaker and
the centrifugal clutch switch that triggers the start vs. run circuit. They
both check out fine. The oil level is correct and the compressor cylinder
appears fine. I have removed the start capacitor, but haven't had any luck
finding a replacement.
Three questions:
Has anyone else solved a similar problem and, if so, how?
Does anyone know where I can get an air compressor start capacitor?
If I have to change the entire motor, is there a cheap (cheaper than buying another
compressor) place to buy one?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Ted
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