Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:51 AM - Re: Moving to Tucson-need advice (Dan)
2. 05:58 AM - Nose wheel info (Charlie Kuss)
3. 05:58 AM - Re: autopilot experience (Charlie Kuss)
4. 06:50 AM - Re: Nose wheel info (sportav8r@aol.com)
5. 07:43 AM - Anywhere Wx 4-sale (Walter Casey)
6. 07:43 AM - Re: autopilot experience (Dan Checkoway)
7. 09:02 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (Charles Rowbotham)
8. 10:25 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
9. 11:46 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (James H Nelson)
10. 12:04 PM - autopilot experience (Scott Diffenbaugh)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (Dana Overall)
12. 01:38 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (linn Walters)
13. 01:44 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (Dale Ellis)
14. 01:51 PM - Re: RV-12 question (Mike Robertson)
15. 05:54 PM - Re: RV-12 question (Greg Young)
16. 05:54 PM - First Flight (Ed OConnor)
17. 06:17 PM - Re: First Flight (Richard Dudley)
18. 06:22 PM - Re: First Flight (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
19. 06:35 PM - Re: First Flight (Dan Checkoway)
20. 06:36 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together (Charlie England)
21. 06:43 PM - Tip tanks (more) (Bob Barrow)
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Subject: | Re: Moving to Tucson-need advice |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan" <rvsearey@aol.com>
Hi Louis, you might try calling Denny Nolan, the owner of a beautiful new airpark,
Ruby Star(14AZ), in Sahuarita just south of TUS. The last time I saw him
he was building T-hangars and planning to build a new big hangar. He's a great
guy and very friendly to outside people. Also he might know of people on the
airpark that might have hangar space to rent. Ruby Star is on McGee Ranch
Rd. and is 4300' and paved. All the streets/taxiways are paved too. Dennys number
is 520-625-0980.
Dan Decker
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24509#24509
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
I understand that Vans has switched vendor for the nose wheel parts
from Cleveland to Matco. Could someone enlighten me on what the part
numbers for the original Cleveland nose wheel, bearings, axle, etc.
were? I'd prefer to buy these items in Cleveland brand. Anyone out
there have these items they would like to sell?
Charlie Kuss
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Subject: | autopilot experience |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Chuck,
What features does adding the Pictoral Pilot add to your
Digitrak/Altrak autopilot?
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
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>Hi Jay,
>
>We intially installed the digi-Track and then added the Alt trak. Last year
>we upgraded to the Pictoral pilot.
>
>Great Product - Great Support and Works Super! Once you use it you'd never
>be without it.
>
>Chuck Rowbotham
>RV-8A
>
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> >From: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV-List: autopilot experience
> >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:04:20 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
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> >I would be interested in comments on the trutrak autopilots from people who
> >have installed them in RVs.
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Subject: | Re: Nose wheel info |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
No, but I have a pair of sealed bearings for the Matco that I bought by mistake...
cheap to anyone who needs a spare set.
-Stormy
I may have the Timken part #'s for the nosewheel bearings at home somewhere (Cleveland);
I will look. Van was not helpful getting this info last time I needed
it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Sent: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:51:42 -0500
Subject: RV-List: Nose wheel info
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
I understand that Vans has switched vendor for the nose wheel parts
from Cleveland to Matco. Could someone enlighten me on what the part
numbers for the original Cleveland nose wheel, bearings, axle, etc.
were? I'd prefer to buy these items in Cleveland brand. Anyone out
there have these items they would like to sell?
Charlie Kuss
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Subject: | Anywhere Wx 4-sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Casey <mikec@caseyspm.com>
I have a complete "Anywhere Map" WX weather system which I purchased
at Oshkosh 2005. It is a moving map with Approach Plates, SIDS and
STARS.
It uses the HP IPAQ display.
=EF=BF=BC=EF=BF=BC
The system currently sells for $1,895
http://www.anywheremap.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=3D32
I have the original box, manuals, everything.
It is yours for $1,200 or Best Offer
I am selling because I am buying the $8,500 Grand Rapids weather system.
My tail number is N311WT
Contact me at
* Mike Casey *
* 6528 S. Oneida Ct. *
* Centennial, CO 80111-4617 USA *
* *
* Phone (303) 771-0815 *
* FAX (303) 220-1477 *
* eMail mikec@caseyspm.com *
********************************************
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Subject: | Re: autopilot experience |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> What features does adding the Pictoral Pilot add to your
> Digitrak/Altrak autopilot?
A solid state turn & bank and a knob (instead of just up/down buttons) to
select your course, which can also be used to dial up/down by 5 instead of 1
degree at a time.
In my plane I've had the 3.125" Digitrak, 3.125" Pictorial Pilot, and now
the 2.25" Pictorial Pilot. I wouldn't do it any other way. TruTrak is a
great company to deal with. Their "upgrade for the difference in cost"
program kicks butt...probably one of the biggest reasons to buy from them.
You can "start small" and then move your way up the line if that's something
you want to do.
I've had these autopilots fed serially from my GX60, and now it's fed from
the 396.
The one area where I think TruTrak is shooting themselves in the foot is the
ADI. I wouldn't fly with that instrument (particularly in IFR) if you paid
me. I think many builders are making a big mistake if they think it will
provide them a vertical horizon reference, and I think TruTrak is making a
mistake marketing this product. Hear me now and believe me later...
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (841 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Guys,
Lets meet at Aces Cafe (where Mararitaville was last year) on Wednesday 4/5.
How does 5 PM sound ?
Chuck Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun-N-Fun Get together
>Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:47:16 EST
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
>I'm in- name a time/place- planning to be there all week & it would be
>great
>to meetcha!
>
> >From The PossumWorks in TN
>Mark Phillips - N51PW
>do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 3/27/06 11:06:50 AM Central Standard Time,
crowbotham@hotmail.com writes:
> Lets meet at Aces Cafe (where Mararitaville was last year) on Wednesday
> 4/5.
>
> How does 5 PM sound ?
>>>>>
Sounds good to me- beat the airshow rush... It's a big place- somebody make
a sign and stick it on the end of a table?
Mark - do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
How about Thursday or Friday for those of us who can not be there for the
whole week. I will be there then as I can get away from work for these
two days. Us working stiffs sure have it tough!!
Jim Nelson
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Subject: | autopilot experience |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
Time: 02:07:08 PM PST US
From: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: autopilot experience
--> RV-List message posted by: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
I would be interested in comments on the trutrak autopilots from people who
have
installed them in RVs.
jp
During construction, I upgraded my Trutrak to the Digiflight II VSG because
I purchased a Garmin GNS480 with vertical navigation. (TruTrak was very nice
and only charged me the difference). During ground testing, there were
several problems. The folks at TruTrak were very nice and had me send it
back to upgrade the software to fix the problems which it did. (I am a bit
disappointed that there is no serial port to upgrade the software and that I
had to remove the unit and send it back--lets hope I don't have to remove it
again). In further ground testing, I could not get the vertical navigation
to link up with my GNS480. To make a long story short, it turns out per my
last conversation with them that they have not been able to get it to work
because Garmin did not include a centerline signal in their unit and have no
plans to change it. So, it turns out I didn't get what I paid for. I'm not
sure how it performs otherwise since the first flight is about a month or so
away. Other testimonials are glowing so I am optimistic, although it would
have been nice to take a nap while the plane landed itself like the big boys
do.
Scott Diffenbaugh
RV-7A FAA approved and ready to fly -just waiting for me!
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> > Lets meet at Aces Cafe (where Mararitaville was last year) on Wednesday
> > 4/5.
> >
> > How does 5 PM sound ?
>
Whatda ya mean.............Aces Cafe........no more Margariaville this
year?????
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Just a suggestion: Each person bring a "RV" sign to the designated area
(or table even, if that's possible) that will sit on the table ..... the
second person on will be able to find the 'group'. Or, you could plant
a sign on the grass and gather there. It's the same problem for every
group that wants to get together for lunch or dinner. Sorry, looking
for the "RV GRIN" won't work too well, since everyones got a grin for
some reason or another!! :-D
Linn
do not archive
James H Nelson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>
>How about Thursday or Friday for those of us who can not be there for the
>whole week. I will be there then as I can get away from work for these
>two days. Us working stiffs sure have it tough!!
>
>Jim Nelson
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dale Ellis <rv8builder@earthlink.net>
Friday late afternoon or evening would not good due to the Van's Dinner that evening.
Dale - 338 days and a wake up from retirement.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>Sent: Mar 27, 2006 2:33 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun-N-Fun Get together
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>
>How about Thursday or Friday for those of us who can not be there for the
>whole week. I will be there then as I can get away from work for these
>two days. Us working stiffs sure have it tough!!
>
>Jim Nelson
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Subject: | Re: RV-12 question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Actually, you are a bit off on this reply. If you build a light-sport
certified kit you can not do what you want, but must build it exactly as the
manufacturer calls out in their assembly manual. any deviations must be
approved by the manufacturer. Other than that you are OK.
Mike Robertson
Das Fed
>From: Terry Williams <7ecapilot@comcast.net>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-12 question
>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:30:10 -0800
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Terry Williams <7ecapilot@comcast.net>
>
>Certify that it's maximum speed in level flight under standard
>conditions at sea level is 120 kts at a maximum permissible
>continuous RPM setting. Then, provide operating limitations in your
>handbook and placards in your airplane. You are the manufacturer. You
>set the operating limitations. I have no idea if this will get past
>an FAA inspection, but I am pretty sure that is legal. Sonex, Ltd.
>declares that their 120hp version is LSA compliant. The maximum
>continuous RPM for the Jabiru 3300 (120hp) is 2750 rpm. When you
>extrapolate that to max continuous power('bout 108), their airplane
>tops out at 135 mph (roughly 117kts). But, Jabiru says you can run
>the engine to 3300 rpm for 10 minutes. So, for 10 minutes you can go
>faster than 135 mph. They say their airplanes will go 170mph at
>8000'. Builders of the Sonex 120hp have indicated that their
>airplanes easily fly 160 mph ('bout 139kts) at cruise altitudes. But,
>the reg stipulates maximum speed in level flight at sea level under
>standard conditions with maximum continuous power.
>
>http://www.sportpilot.org/rule/sp_rule.pdf
>
>ymmv, :)
>
>tw
>
>On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Chris W wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
> >
> > The RV-12 is shooting for the light sport licensed pilots. My
> > question
> > is suppose you build one to spec and find after flight testing that it
> > goes faster than the max speed for that category? What do you do?
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> > Chris W
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
That's for the "certified" LSA kit. Isn't there still an Experimental LSA category
that has the same latitude its big brother Amateur-Built Experimental enjoys?
Greg Young
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson"
> <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> Actually, you are a bit off on this reply. If you build a
> light-sport certified kit you can not do what you want, but
> must build it exactly as the manufacturer calls out in their
> assembly manual. any deviations must be approved by the
> manufacturer. Other than that you are OK.
>
> Mike Robertson
> Das Fed
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
At approximately 1500 hours (3:00 PM) my RV-8 and I (call sign N366RV)
took to the air for the first time from Sandy Creek Airpark, Panama
City Fl. Flew approximately 35 minutes on this maiden flight. This
project began in Jun 1997 and finished today with a great flight. The
aircraft flew straight and true with no roll tendencies and other then
a few instruments needing some calibration, she is ready to go again
and so am I. Flying high cover in an RV-6 was Joe Brown. Photo chase
was flown by Larry Price in his RV-8 with Rich Turner in the back seat
for photos and Don Fitzgerald manning the movie camera to document the
event, especially the T/O and landing, which was not too bad for my
first one in an RV-8. Engine is an XP 360 with AFP fuel injection, MT
two bladed aluminum prop and Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS 1. Still
grinning.
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Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Congratulations, Ed!!!!!!!
Richard Dudey
Ed OConnor wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
>
>At approximately 1500 hours (3:00 PM) my RV-8 and I (call sign N366RV)
>took to the air for the first time from Sandy Creek Airpark, Panama
>City Fl. Flew approximately 35 minutes on this maiden flight. This
>project began in Jun 1997 and finished today with a great flight. The
>aircraft flew straight and true with no roll tendencies and other then
>a few instruments needing some calibration, she is ready to go again
>and so am I. Flying high cover in an RV-6 was Joe Brown. Photo chase
>was flown by Larry Price in his RV-8 with Rich Turner in the back seat
>for photos and Don Fitzgerald manning the movie camera to document the
>event, especially the T/O and landing, which was not too bad for my
>first one in an RV-8. Engine is an XP 360 with AFP fuel injection, MT
>two bladed aluminum prop and Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS 1. Still
>grinning.
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Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Yeah, baby! Y'all keep 'em coming!
Congratulations, Ed- one week to S&F, maybe 170 hours or so to get them 40
in, so SEEYAH THERE!
Mark do not archive
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Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Congratulations!
March 27 is a great day for a first flight! Today marks the 2-year
anniversary of my first flight in the RV-7. Went flying to celebrate and
flew through a huge, dense swarm of bees while doing a touch & go. I was
cleaning streamlined bee guts off the plane all afternoon. Half-dead bees
were writhing in my ram air inlet. What a mess! But it was worth it, of
course. ;-)
Glad to hear you had a great first flight. Have a safe & fun Phase One!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (842 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed OConnor" <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
<RV-List@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: RV-List: First Flight
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
>
> At approximately 1500 hours (3:00 PM) my RV-8 and I (call sign N366RV)
> took to the air for the first time from Sandy Creek Airpark, Panama
> City Fl. Flew approximately 35 minutes on this maiden flight. This
> project began in Jun 1997 and finished today with a great flight. The
> aircraft flew straight and true with no roll tendencies and other then
> a few instruments needing some calibration, she is ready to go again
> and so am I. Flying high cover in an RV-6 was Joe Brown. Photo chase
> was flown by Larry Price in his RV-8 with Rich Turner in the back seat
> for photos and Don Fitzgerald manning the movie camera to document the
> event, especially the T/O and landing, which was not too bad for my
> first one in an RV-8. Engine is an XP 360 with AFP fuel injection, MT
> two bladed aluminum prop and Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS 1. Still
> grinning.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun Get together |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
linn Walters wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
>Just a suggestion: Each person bring a "RV" sign to the designated area
>(or table even, if that's possible) that will sit on the table ..... the
>second person on will be able to find the 'group'. Or, you could plant
>a sign on the grass and gather there. It's the same problem for every
>group that wants to get together for lunch or dinner. Sorry, looking
>for the "RV GRIN" won't work too well, since everyones got a grin for
>some reason or another!! :-D
>Linn
>
>do not archive
>James H Nelson wrote:
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>>--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>>
>>How about Thursday or Friday for those of us who can not be there for the
>>whole week. I will be there then as I can get away from work for these
>>two days. Us working stiffs sure have it tough!!
>>
>>Jim Nelson
>>
A technique that worked well a couple of years ago was to meet at Van's
tent at a designated time (Thanks, Bernie) & then head for the food as a
group.
FWIW...
Charlie
Slobovia Outernational
RV-7 firewall assembly stage
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Subject: | Tip tanks (more) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Barrow" <bobbarrow10@hotmail.com>
I also plan on using tip tanks on my RV7A. And I've also been pondering this
fuel feed question for at least 12 months. This is a very good thread and
timely for me.
I've seen many solutions (actually flying) for feeding fuel from the tips
and I've listed a few below with a few of my comments on each. Just my
opinion of course and I welcome further feedback.
1. Floating "cistern" style valve in main tank. Opens valve to allow fuel to
flow from tip to main when fuel in main gets down to a certain level.
Advantages: Fully automatic..nothing to do or remember. No chance of fuel
being vented from mains vent. Disadvantages: No suitable valve available on
the market as far as I know which means you have to manufacture it. May be
prone to mechanical failure. A nightmare to get to if it fails. Conclusion:
Not for me.
2. Five way fuel selector. Andair sells them. Enables selection of either
mains or either tips individually.
Advantages: 100% access to auxiliary fuel guaranteed. No check valves to
fail. No problems with differential vent pressures between mains and tips.
Disadvantages: You'll have to run the tips dry to empty them which means the
engine will stop. If you're not careful and you leave the tips selected you
might lose engine power at a bad time. Conclusion: A potentially dangerous
set-up if you get distracted. Using all useable fuel in flight essentailly
means running a tank dry. Not for me.
3. One way mechanical valve. Andair sells them and they are fitted between
the tips and the mains.
Advantages: Very reliable in terms of fuel availability and nothing to
remember. Disadvantages: Can result in fuel overflowing through mains vent
if pressure differential not precise. Once flow starts it may be assisted
by siphon effect. When the plane is parked with full mains, fuel will seep
back through the one-way valve and refill the tips. This can be a problem
for accurate fuel measurement. It also precludes any aerobatics until the
fuel can be pumped back into the mains in flight. Also requires a well
sealing fuel cap to prevent fuel loss at the cap (that excludes Vans caps
which are terrible). Conclusion: Popular solution but not without problems.
4. Electric fuel pump between tips and mains.
Advantages: Fast fuel transfer. Control of flow. Disadvantages: Requires
electric power to gain access to aux fuel. The pump introduces another
failure point. If the mains are full when the pump is switched on then all
the tip fuel will be pumped overboard. Conclusion: Unnecessarily
complicated.
5. Straight feed between tips and mains. No check valve.
Advantages: Completely outweighed by disadvanteges. Disadvantages: No way to
control fuel from feeding back into the tips while parked or in flight. If
it occurs in flight it could result in fuel exhaustion. It could also result
in an irretrievable spin if aerobatics attempted. Conclusion: Not practical
as far as I can see.
6. Tips to mains through fuel selector. Calls for routing the tips fuel into
the cabin to auxiliary selector(s) and then to the mains.
Advantages: Virtually guaranteed fuel supply if correct selection made.
Disadvantages: Additional fuel plumbing in wing and cabin. Additional fuel
selectors which may present problems in terms of location, access and
accidental movement of selector by pilot or passenger. Conclusion: Messy
plumbing in cabin and fuel selectors everywhere.
7. One way electric solenoid. Fitted between tips and mains.
Advantages: Complete control of fuel flow. Fuel can be retained in tips
until mains reduced to avoid any possibility of fuel overflowing from mains
vent or leaking fuel cap. Positive valve action will prevent fuel seeping
back into the tips while plane parked. Disadvantages: Requires electric
power to enable access to aux fuel. Relatively slow fuel transfer (but
should exceed fuel flow required for 100% engine power). Conclusion: Not
perfect, but might be best of the bunch.
Have others had success with an electric solenoid. If so, what type of
solenoid did you use. If you've had problems with this arrangement I'd like
to know about that as well.
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