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1. 05:32 AM - Re: World's best airplane battery (Warren Hurd)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: P-MagsP-Mags (sportav8r@aol.com)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: P-Mags P-Mags (Darrell Reiley)
4. 08:03 AM - Chrome Dome (Smitty)
5. 08:18 AM - Re: P-Mags P-Mags (sportav8r@aol.com)
6. 02:54 PM - Re: Electronic ignition conversion (Mike Robertson)
7. 03:08 PM - Re: P-Mags P-Mags (Kevin Horton)
8. 04:11 PM - Re: P-Mags P-Mags (Darrell Reiley)
9. 06:26 PM - Re: Congrats to Mark at the (Emrath)
10. 08:04 PM - Re: Congrats to Mark at the (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
11. 10:22 PM - Re: P-Mags P-Mags (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
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| Subject: | Re: World's best airplane battery |
--> RV-List message posted by: Warren Hurd <warren@ahyup.com>
How about a discount for a dozen of them?
I would use them for a electric hybrid corn powered RV-12 :-)
<http://ahyup.com>AHYUP
warren
My DeWalt is tired
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> >--> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com"
> >
> > I am considering producing state-of-the art, very lightweight, ultra
> >long life, starting batteries for experimental aircraft. They won't
> >be cheap to make, however. I'd like to get some feedback as to the
> >market for these before I put a big effort into this.
> >
> > Here are the specs:
> >
> >14 volts
> >480 cranking amps
> >8.8 amp-hours
> >2.7 pounds (Yes, really just 2.7 pounds.)
> >10 year warrantee (prorated)
> >Completely sealed battery
> >Safer than lead acid or NiCad
> >Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage,
> >under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault.
> >
> > That is all the good news. The downside is that they will cost about
> >$475. I'm not sure how many folks would want a 10 year battery (at
> >least) that weighs about 1/3 as much as an "ordinary" battery, but
> >costs four times as much.
> >
> > The specs above are real. I have personally tested these batteries
> >and they do, indeed, perform this well, so that is not an issue. I
> >know I can make these. I'm going to make one for myself. The question
> >is, will folks buy them if I more of them?
> >
> > Let me know if you think you would be interested in such a high-tech
> >battery at this cost.
> >
> > Bill Dube'
> >
> >
> >
>Time: 08:00:44 PM PST US
>From: Bill Dube <william.p.dube@noaa.gov>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: World's best airplane battery
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <william.p.dube@noaa.gov>
>
>The cycle life is discharge rate dependent. It is at least 1000 100% DOD
>cycles for 10C discharge. For 1 C discharge, it is over 2000 cycles.
>This is retaining 80% capacity. If 50% capacity is acceptable, the cycle
>life is much much longer.
>
>Bill D.
>
>jay pearlman wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
> >
> >What is the cycle lifetime - full discharge to full charge?
> > jp
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: P-MagsP-Mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>From actual testing on the ground, of course. Reproducible with 100% repeatability,
and confirmed by lots of other users. You got a good one ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Darwin N. Barrie <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Sent: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:04:40 -0500
Subject: Re: RV-List: P-MagsP-Mags
--> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
I have the Emag and Pmag set up. 55 hours now. My Pmag cut off point is 680 rpm.
Don't know where you get the 900 rpm figure.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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| Subject: | Re: P-Mags P-Mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I would send the P-Mags back to the manufacture for a 100% full replacement as
the 900 rpm range is unacceptable!
Darrell
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
For those of us RV builders out there who want a "no paint" metal finish,
here's an idea, how bout' chrome paint? A friend of mine sent me this
link. I think I'm going to stick with just ordinary paint myself, but
thought some of yous guys might find this interesting.
http://www.alsacorp.com/chrome.htm
Smittys RV-9A
http://SmittysRV.com
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| Subject: | Re: P-Mags P-Mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
They (emagair) don't seem to think so.
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From: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:34:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: RV-List: P-Mags P-Mags
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I would send the P-Mags back to the manufacture for a 100% full replacement as
the 900 rpm range is unacceptable!
Darrell
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| Subject: | Electronic ignition conversion |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
In this case it is considered a major change and requires a minimum of five
hours of flight testing. Check your aircraft's operating limitations to be
sure to do exactly what it says to do for a major change.
Mike Robertson
Das Fed
>From: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Electronic ignition conversion
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:22:21 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
>Fellow Listers:
>
>I am considering converting my RV-4 from a magneto ignition system to a
>dual
>Lightspeed EI system. Do any of you know whether making this conversion is
>considered a major airframe change which would require an additional flight
>test period (I think it is 5 hours on my airworthiness certificate, which I
>do not have with me at the moment).
>
>Thanks
>
>Doug Weiler
>RV-5, N722DW, 280 hours TT
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: P-Mags P-Mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 12 Apr 2006, at 10:34, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
>
> I would send the P-Mags back to the manufacture for a 100% full
> replacement as the 900 rpm range is unacceptable!
>
Does it really matter if the P-Mag can't handle an electrical power
loss at idle on the ground?
What is idle rpm in flight at typical airspeeds? What would the
operational consequences be to having to keep the engine at 1,000 rpm
minimum in flight, if the electrical system had failed?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: P-Mags P-Mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
No I guess you could say it doesn't matter but here's what's advertised...
"P-MAG offers a unique solution. Instead of backing-up the aircraft buss, the
P-MAG produces its own power (at 700 rpm and above). The aircraft buss acts
as the back-up most of the time. With this arrangement, dual electronic ignitions
can be run "clean". No back-up batteries and no back-up magnetos."
I guess if you wanted you could take off with a 70 rpm mag drop on one mag and
a 300 prm mag drop on the other mag.
When I spend my hard earned $$$'s I want to get what I paid for.
Darrell
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Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
On 12 Apr 2006, at 10:34, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
>
>
> I would send the P-Mags back to the manufacture for a 100% full
> replacement as the 900 rpm range is unacceptable!
>
Does it really matter if the P-Mag can't handle an electrical power
loss at idle on the ground?
What is idle rpm in flight at typical airspeeds? What would the
operational consequences be to having to keep the engine at 1,000 rpm
minimum in flight, if the electrical system had failed?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
"Do Not Archive"
Darrell Reiley
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats to Mark at the |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
Way to go Mark, first the Lindy award and now this!!!! It just keeps
getting better doesn't it. So what ya gona do for an encore?
Marty
Time: 10:45:11 AM PST US From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Subject: Congrats to Mark at the "Possum Works"!!!
--> RV-List message posted by: "James Clark" <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Mucho CONGRATS (!!!) Mark.
* BEST METAL*
N51PW 2004 PHILLIPS/VANS RV-6A MARK A. PHILLIPS
COLUMBIA, TN 38401
And in the spirit of th e"Possum Works" vernacular ....
I jes **KNEW** yewd be gitt'n sup 'in!
James
... mighty proud to have had you flying "off my wing"
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| Subject: | Re: Congrats to Mark at the |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 04/12/2006 7:27:42 PM Central Standard Time,
emrath@comcast.net writes:
So what ya gona do for an encore?
>>>>>
Give ya a couple of Tech Counselor inspections then get a picture of YOUR
plane departing MQY!!!
Let me know when yer ready....
THANKS!
Mark
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--> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
PMag minimum RPM has been discussed in the past. The consensus seems to have
been that the whirlwind effect would maintain the propeller spinning above
700 RPM, which means that the PMags should put out power. Now, if the PMag
is not generating its own power above 700 RPM then it is not up to specs.
This is another issue which should definitely be taken up with eMagair and
is probably a case by case issue.
Michele - RV8 Fuselage - going the dual PMag route.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
Sent: jeudi 13 avril 2006 00:07
Subject: Re: RV-List: P-Mags P-Mags
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 12 Apr 2006, at 10:34, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
> <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
>
> I would send the P-Mags back to the manufacture for a 100% full
> replacement as the 900 rpm range is unacceptable!
>
Does it really matter if the P-Mag can't handle an electrical power
loss at idle on the ground?
What is idle rpm in flight at typical airspeeds? What would the
operational consequences be to having to keep the engine at 1,000 rpm
minimum in flight, if the electrical system had failed?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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