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1. 03:10 AM - Re: Re:Spelling lesson, entertainment onlyRe:Spelling lesson, entertainment only (charles heathco)
2. 06:21 AM - Re: World's best airplane battery (Bob 1)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re:Spelling lesson, entertainment onlyRe:Spelling lesson, entertainment only (Ken Howell)
4. 08:03 AM - Re:25 hour phase one (Szantho B. Szantho)
5. 08:09 AM - Re: Platenut Life (Bill Schlatterer)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: Re:25 hour phase one (Ron Lee)
7. 10:23 AM - Re: Platenut Life (gert)
8. 02:04 PM - Test (John D.Heath)
9. 03:25 PM - Re: Test (sportypilot@stx.rr.com)
10. 09:34 PM - Re: Platenut Life (Mannan J. Thomason)
11. 10:02 PM - Re: Platenut Life (Bob Barrow)
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| Subject: | Re:Spelling lesson, entertainment onlyRe:Spelling lesson, |
entertainment only
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Unbelivable, Ask a question about a problem and getmaybe 3 repys. pput =
up a crappy thing like this and get 30 replys, Come on guys! Charlie =
Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: World's best airplane battery |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>Sounds like Lithium Ion or Polymer to me. If it is, I would have
>extreme concerns as to what the safety measures would be insure no
>fire or explosion.
Safety is not an issue. That is why they are so expensive.
The specs are real. I have personally tested them myself.
Would you pay $475 for such a battery?
Bill Dube'
*** NO ***
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| Subject: | Re:Spelling lesson, entertainment onlyRe:Spelling lesson, |
entertainment only
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Howell" <cfi1513840@comcast.net>
That's because we know more about spelling than building airplanes. ;-)
Ken
Please Do Not Archive [this crap]
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of charles heathco
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Spelling lesson, entertainment onlyRe:Spelling
lesson, entertainment only
--> RV-List message posted by: "charles heathco" <cheathco@junct.com>
Unbelivable, Ask a question about a problem and getmaybe 3 repys. pput =
up a crappy thing like this and get 30 replys, Come on guys! Charlie =
Heathco
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| Subject: | Re:25 hour phase one |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Szantho B. Szantho" <jszantho@gmail.com>
Reuven,
I live in Loveland, Colorado.
John
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Why tap them? A drop of Bolube on the screw and it goes in easy, comes out
easy ??? Why all the trouble ? Is there some reason to put the screws in
dry ?
Bill S
7a wiring
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mannan J. Thomason
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Platenut Life
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mannan J. Thomason" <mannanj@alltel.net>
I wholehartedly second the emotion! Tap them suckers and Torx forever.
Microfasteners.com---a bit more expensive, but worth every penny. They
don't call them Torx, something like six lobe drive I believe.
Mannan Thomason
RV-8 N161RL (# 1 Girl)
Engine running, almost ready to fly.
Please do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Platenut Life
> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> Hi Michael-
>
> I know this will start a storm of incandescent blowtorches from listers,
> but
> in MY experience, FWIW, I tapped every freakin' platenut on my plane and
> have
> never, I repeat NEVER experienced a single one of them loosening as a
> result-
> YMMV, but I must have installed 500 of the freakin' things (all
> floorboards,
> tanks, interior panels, wingroot fairings, baggage bulkhead etc.) and
> would do
> it again in a heartbeat.
>
> And by the way- my name is PHILLIPS and if there is ANY way I can avoid a
> PHILLIPS screw, it shall be done- I've used the torx fasteners from
> microfasterners.com with spectacular results, and you'll be glad you did
> the same- no
> gratuities from them, but I am in the torx camp and intend to stay
> there...
>
> (Pheeew! Do I get worked up sometimes or WHAT?!)
>
> I mean it-
> Mark Phillips - RV-6A N51PW, 300 hours and not a screw loose yet except
> maybe
> in the right seat! 8-) http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
>
> p.s. - I'd happily build an RV for you and every one of them suckers would
> have a nice sharp tap drilled mercilessly thru it!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:25 hour phase one |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Reuven,
>
>I live in Loveland, Colorado.
>
>John
John, there are enough RV pilots around to get past Phase 1.
I will send you an email with my phone number. We can discuss
whether I am the right person to help you.
Ron Lee
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Platenut Life |
--> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Bill
I have had batches where even boelube did not work, they were plainly
over squeezed by a bit. I too have run a tap through several platenuts
depending on ease of access, structural function etc. E.g. i have used
plate nuts for my floor in my -8, i ran the tap at least partially in
the platenuts. actually i have a tap with a slightly longer taper, it
cleans the threads, but does not remove the squeeze all the way.
gert.
Bill Schlatterer wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Why tap them? A drop of Bolube on the screw and it goes in easy, comes out
> easy ??? Why all the trouble ? Is there some reason to put the screws in
> dry ?
>
> Bill S
> 7a wiring
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mannan J. Thomason
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Platenut Life
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mannan J. Thomason" <mannanj@alltel.net>
>
> I wholehartedly second the emotion! Tap them suckers and Torx forever.
> Microfasteners.com---a bit more expensive, but worth every penny. They
> don't call them Torx, something like six lobe drive I believe.
>
> Mannan Thomason
> RV-8 N161RL (# 1 Girl)
> Engine running, almost ready to fly.
>
> Please do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Platenut Life
>
>
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>> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>>
>> Hi Michael-
>>
>> I know this will start a storm of incandescent blowtorches from listers,
>> but
>> in MY experience, FWIW, I tapped every freakin' platenut on my plane and
>> have
>> never, I repeat NEVER experienced a single one of them loosening as a
>> result-
>> YMMV, but I must have installed 500 of the freakin' things (all
>> floorboards,
>> tanks, interior panels, wingroot fairings, baggage bulkhead etc.) and
>> would do
>> it again in a heartbeat.
>>
>> And by the way- my name is PHILLIPS and if there is ANY way I can avoid a
>> PHILLIPS screw, it shall be done- I've used the torx fasteners from
>> microfasterners.com with spectacular results, and you'll be glad you did
>> the same- no
>> gratuities from them, but I am in the torx camp and intend to stay
>> there...
>>
>> (Pheeew! Do I get worked up sometimes or WHAT?!)
>>
>> I mean it-
>> Mark Phillips - RV-6A N51PW, 300 hours and not a screw loose yet except
>> maybe
>> in the right seat! 8-) http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
>>
>> p.s. - I'd happily build an RV for you and every one of them suckers would
>> have a nice sharp tap drilled mercilessly thru it!
>>
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charicter.
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--> RV-List message posted by: sportypilot@stx.rr.com
yep it works..
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: "John D.Heath" <altoq@cebridge.net>
Subject: RV-List: Test
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John D.Heath" <altoq@cebridge.net>
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> Does this work in e-mail? 360=B0 Yes
> Number lock on, Hold Alt Down, 0176 on the number pad, gets you
> degree =
> charicter.
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| Subject: | Re: Platenut Life |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mannan J. Thomason" <mannanj@alltel.net>
Gert:
This happened to me. Had a batch of 200 that were over squeezed. Every one
I tried would "cam out" and ruin the head of the screw. That's why I like
the Torx head screws. Out of desperation, I ended up running a tap
partially through all but couple of them. (Should have explained that in my
earlier post.) Guess where the couple that I missed ended up. You're
right, in the corners where you can't get a screwdriver square on them.
They're a bitch to remove one eighth of a turn at a time with vise grips.
For others out there reading this. In most aplications on these airplanes,
the Microfastener SS 65,000 PSI strength is more than sufficient. In
aplications that call for a shank on the screw vs. threaded all the way,
then clearly the AN hardware is preferred. If you're new at building and
don't have a lot of mechanical experience, when in doubt about a particular
situation, consult someone knowledgeable and seek their advice. Get to know
your EAA Technical Advisor Buy the local A&P or AI a cup of coffee or beer
or even pay for their time and invite them over for a look at your project.
Any advice you see on this website, or any other is worth exactly what you
paid for it. $0.00 (Mine included, except for the seek competent help and
advice.)
Mannan Thomason
RV-8 Engine running, looks like a real airplane! Flying soon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "gert" <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Platenut Life
> --> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Bill
>
> I have had batches where even boelube did not work, they were plainly
> over squeezed by a bit. I too have run a tap through several platenuts
> depending on ease of access, structural function etc. E.g. i have used
> plate nuts for my floor in my -8, i ran the tap at least partially in
> the platenuts. actually i have a tap with a slightly longer taper, it
> cleans the threads, but does not remove the squeeze all the way.
>
> gert.
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| Subject: | Re: Platenut Life |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Barrow" <bobbarrow10@hotmail.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
>
I believe that the "structural" portion of fuel tank attachment comes
>from the "Z" brackets fastened to the wing spar, and
>the bracket between the root rib and the fuselage.
>The flush "skin" screws are simply to hold the skin
>down to the spar, & not for carrying structural loads.
Why do you "believe" that. On what basis do you state that opinion. I would
suggest to you that the tanks skins carry considerable load and that those
loads will want to transfer to the spar by the most direct route...which
will be primarily through the #8 skin screws.
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