Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:22 AM - Re: panel design (Jeff Point)
2. 02:21 AM - Re: panel design (Larry Rosen)
3. 02:43 AM - Re: Panel Clearance Sale (William Gill)
4. 04:22 AM - Re: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) (Ken Howell)
5. 04:58 AM - Re: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) (Mickey Coggins)
6. 05:05 AM - Re: Panel Clearance Sale (Charlie Kuss)
7. 05:51 AM - Re: panel design (George Neal E Capt HQ AU/XPRR)
8. 06:13 AM - Re: Panel Clearance Sale (Paul Besing)
9. 06:13 AM - Re: Panel Clearance Sale (Paul Besing)
10. 06:40 AM - Firesleeving (Ralph E. Capen)
11. 06:47 AM - Re: panel design (Marty)
12. 07:06 AM - engine workshop at Mattituck (Preston Kavanagh)
13. 07:57 AM - Re: panel design (Bill VonDane)
14. 07:57 AM - Re: panel design (Bill VonDane)
15. 08:35 AM - RV-List Digest: panel design (Condon, Philip M.)
16. 08:44 AM - Re: Silver State Fly In (BRUCE GRAY)
17. 08:44 AM - OSH RV events update (Bob Collins)
18. 09:11 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: panel design (Joseph Larson)
19. 09:11 AM - Re: Panel Clearance Sale (Paul Rice)
20. 09:59 AM - engine timing at HWD (Parker Thomas)
21. 11:29 AM - Re: panel design (Jeff Point)
22. 11:33 AM - Re: panel design (Bill VonDane)
23. 01:01 PM - (Frazier, Vincent A)
24. 01:29 PM - Re: RV-List Digest: panel design (Alex Peterson)
25. 01:56 PM - Re: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) (Paul Parashak)
26. 01:58 PM - Cessna junk and other goodies (Frazier, Vincent A)
27. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) (Konrad L. Werner)
28. 05:45 PM - What is the best way to determine speed improvements? (Ron Lee)
29. 06:43 PM - Re: What is the best way to determine speed improvements? (Kevin Horton)
30. 07:29 PM - Re: Ohio Valley RVators Formation Clinic (Richard Sipp)
31. 07:53 PM - Re: Firesleeving (Ross Scroggs)
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Bill,
Any chance you've changed your mind about returning the free, no-frills
version that used to be available?
Jeff Point
do not archive
Bill VonDane wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
<http://xpanelsoftware.com/Index.htm>
Free version in the "Free Products" section
--
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
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| Subject: | Panel Clearance Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
Altimeter manufacturer? Condition? Any pictures available of the items?
Thanks.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Vanremog@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Panel Clearance Sale
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 5/1/2006 9:40:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pbesing@yahoo.com writes:
All Guages $20 each
Do you have any switch gaurds? ;o)
The not-so-phantom spell checker. Do not archive.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 780hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Howell" <cfi1513840@comcast.net>
Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...
Ken - Do not archive
http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Pete,
You must be single . . . ? :-)
I met a few WASP's, and they flew aircraft many of us can only dream =
about. Great gal's, and even greater pilots!
Do not archive
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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)
--> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper)
We taildragger fans will have to concede that the delivery of the =
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Of course by the end of the war there were so many women pilots that
they may have had to begin moving the little wheels to the front of =
all
aircraft . . .=20
Pete Cowper
RV-8 #81139 working on fuselage with tail spring proudly mounted.
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| Subject: | Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Howell" <cfi1513840@comcast.net>
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> Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...
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> Ken - Do not archive
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> http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm
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Yes, but no TD time! :-) As the proud father of two little girls,
I'm sure that Capt. Malachowski's dad couldn't be more proud of her.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Clearance Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Paul
I'm a neophyte with VAF WWW. Where can I find the photos?
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
>
>Ok..working on the new panel and have a bunch of stuff
>for sale:
>Altimeter: $100
>VSI: $75
>ACK Encoder: $50
>Terra Transponder: $200
>Sigtronics Stereo Intercom: $50
>Vans 2 lever quadrant (but have extra parts to make 3
>lever) $25
>All Guages $20 each
>Amps/Volts
>CHT/EGT
>Vans Fuel Pressure
>Oil PSI/Temp
>8 Day Clock
>Shipping $5 each unless you buy more than one item,
>and it's still $5 for the total order. I can take
>paypal or check in the mail is fine. Pictures are on
>Vans airforce.com
>do not archive
>Paul Besing
>RV-4 Arizona
>73DD
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--> RV-List message posted by: "George Neal E Capt HQ AU/XPRR" <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
Jay -
I tried several different programs and finally settled on Xpanel
www.xpanelsoftware.com
It's packed with features and easy to learn.
Neal
RV-7 N8ZG (wiring)
--> RV-List message posted by: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
Does anyone know where to get low cost or no cost panel design software
to try our ideas?
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Clearance Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Ok..you got me..nice one. I was tired and didn't have
on spell check, OK???
Paul Besing
Please do not archive...
--- Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
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> In a message dated 5/1/2006 9:40:45 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> pbesing@yahoo.com writes:
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> All Guages $20 each
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> Do you have any switch gaurds? ;o)
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> The not-so-phantom spell checker. Do not archive.
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> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 780hrs,
> Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Panel Clearance Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Vansairforce.com has pictures in the classified
section. The altimeter has been sold, however.
--- William Gill <wgill10@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill"
> <wgill10@comcast.net>
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> Altimeter manufacturer? Condition? Any pictures
> available of the items?
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Vanremog@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:55 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Panel Clearance Sale
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
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> In a message dated 5/1/2006 9:40:45 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> pbesing@yahoo.com writes:
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> All Guages $20 each
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> Do you have any switch gaurds? ;o)
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> The not-so-phantom spell checker. Do not archive.
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> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 780hrs,
> Silicon Valley, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Folks,
>From what I've seen, most folks are not firesleeving their oil cooler feed/return/pressure
lines nor their fuel pressure line which I'm OK with.
Fuel feed/return lines I think need to be firesleeved.....
I'm having a problem determining what size firesleeve to use. The ACS website
has a table for their firesleeve parts which does not list the 303 hose that we're
supposed to use.
I'm getting ready to buy the stuff to build my fuel hoses - including the firesleeving.
I'll be building an assembly that includes a pair of hoses and a fuel
flow meter - I'm guessing that I'll need a larger chunk of firesleeve to go
over the flow meter.
Can anyone tell me what the correct size of Firesleeving is for a 303-4, 303-6,
and Flowscan 201 fuel flow meter?
Thanks,
Ralph
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Last time I was there, there was still a free version. You have to sign up
for a free account to use it though. Most of the editing functions of the
pay version are turned off, but it'll do everything the old version did,
just have to play around with it to figure out how the new version does it.
Marty Puckett
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Point
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Bill,
Any chance you've changed your mind about returning the free, no-frills
version that used to be available?
Jeff Point
do not archive
Bill VonDane wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
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>www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | engine workshop at Mattituck |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Preston Kavanagh" <pbk3@hotmail.com>
This past Saturday, Mattituck hosted an engine building workshop at their
Long Island facility. The trip, organized by Jim Simmons and Bob Spaulding
of EAA chapter #27, allowed 40 of us to get the inside skinny on a lot of
great information.
The hardest part of this trip was getting up in time to catch the bus.
Leaving my house at 3:15 a.m., in Cromwell I met up with friends and chapter
memebers from throughout Connecticut. A second stop in New Haven, then a
drive to New London, where we watched the sun come up as we got on a 6 am
ferry. As the light increased and the coffee set in, I got to learn more
about the various builders on the trip. I had thoguht of #27 as being very
much an RV builder's chapter. I was surprised and pleased by the diversity
of types and experience in the group - a Hatz Classic, EAA biplane, RV-6,7,8
a Taylorcraft rebuild and even a student pilot interested in all of it. By
8 am we were pretty tightly bonded, and at the Mattituck shop.
We were treated like vistiing royalty - it became pretty clear that customer
service has been Mattituck's success formula since 1946. As we walked in we
got name badges and folders stuffed with checklists and flyers, and a very
generous breakfast assortment. Chairs were organized in a semicircle,
facing an engine stand, and behind that a long set of parts laid out in
logical groups, with a tool chest at one side. The Mattituck people were
introduced, and they thoughtfully covered both the agenda and the logistics
of food and breaks during the day. It was obvious that they had done this
before, and had put a lot of work into the organization of our day.
All the big dogs turned out - including Mr. Parker Wickham, who founded the
business when he came back from WWII (at the close of the day one gets a
certificate - I got him to sign mine). The building was led by Mahlon
Russell, A&P - IA. I was startled to learn that this one guy has worked for
Superior, ECI and now Mattituck, setting the standards for the experimental
engines each has brought to the market.
I have worked alongside of a great local engine shop (Pine Mountain Aviation
of Danbury, CT), and have done the workshops at OshKosh. This was better -
we went beyond the what to the why, and got to talk about alternatives. The
project was the TMX-360, and by the end of the day it was ready for the test
cell. (Assembled without a second IA signing off, this particular engine is
disassembed and re-used for the next demonstration.) Along the way, we
learned about the process used to control the assembly of an engine, and the
tricks of the trade that make it easy to do it right the first time. We
learned about balancing and the subtle variations in dimensions that force
compromises, and how to manage the risk of buying overhauled parts. It was
a great intro to the innards of the 0-360, and a good display of a famous
engine shop.
And the swag! We walked out with tee shirts, folders of reference
materials, and engine stickers to use the next time I want to pretend that a
60-year-old O-235 actually came off Bohannon's time-to-climb champion. We
got a tour of a hidden gem of a car museum, a tour of the larger Mattituck
overhaul facility, a lot of food, and a standing invitation to fly in to the
gorgeus landing strip they own.
It was a great day. Mattituck won't do this very often, but if you can pull
together a group of 30-50 people they will find a way. If you are
interested, I suggest you contact Michael Yousik at
michael_yousik@teledyne.com.
Preston Kavanagh
RV-6a under construction
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Jeff... There is a free, no-frills version that does everything the old
version did except save your last panel...
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Bill,
Any chance you've changed your mind about returning the free, no-frills
version that used to be available?
Jeff Point
do not archive
Bill VonDane wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
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>www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
There are also some very good tutorials in the FAQ section of the Support
Center... They will walk you through everything the ePanel builder will
do...
-Bill
www.epanelbuilder.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Last time I was there, there was still a free version. You have to sign up
for a free account to use it though. Most of the editing functions of the
pay version are turned off, but it'll do everything the old version did,
just have to play around with it to figure out how the new version does it.
Marty Puckett
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Point
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Bill,
Any chance you've changed your mind about returning the free, no-frills
version that used to be available?
Jeff Point
do not archive
Bill VonDane wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
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>www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | RV-List Digest: panel design |
Cc: <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
In all seriousness, swipe a bunch of minilla folder) from work, grab
the ruler and your old circle compass (with the pencil piece in it) and
a Spruce catalog. Go to the instrument pages in the Spruce catalog then
cut yourself a bunch of 3 1/3 instrument and 2.25 circle/squares from
the minilla folders and have fun with placement on a flat surface..use
your imagination with your new cutouts. Why learn a piece of software
just to use it once...some of the software packages are are not
intuitive and the time spent learning them is a waste...........
.......................................................................
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jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: jay pearlman <rv6jp@yahoo.com>
Does anyone know where to get low cost or no cost panel design
software to try
our ideas?
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| Subject: | Silver State Fly In |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
Hello Jim,
I have just been putting the word out and you can as well relay as much as
possible. The RV/Rocket Fly-In has teamed up with the Airport Open House and
bumped to the 17th of June. It was really hard to fit this day in because of
all the current activities. I was not consulted before the day was
determined and found out later that it is falling on the Scappoose OR.
Fly-in this year. So I guess there is a lot to do or fly to this given
weekend. We have planned only for a one day event due to the efforts it
takes to book the hotel rooms and everything that goes with.
We figured if people wanted to hang around for a couple day before or after
they could do that on there own wishes. Good to hear from you and I
apologize you had to reach before I but I will through out the info to the
general public today or tomorrow.
Talk to you soon,
Bruce Gray
RV8 Fuse
Working floor plates and interior goods
>From: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
>To: "RV3 list" <RV3-List@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Silver State Fly In
>Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:48:29 -0700
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>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
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>I haven't seen anything for a while about the Carson Fly In - is it =
>still on for this weekend?
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>Jim Anglin
>HR II N144HR
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | OSH RV events update |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
After three weeks of surveying interest, I think it's safe to conclude there is almost no interest in the proposed RVers area at Camp Scholler during AirVenture. (http://home.comcast.net/~bcollinsrv7a/eaa/index.htm (http://home.comcast.net/~bcollinsrv7a/eaa/index.htm)).
So I'm scrapping that idea as well as the week-long RVers hospitality tent idea.
If anyone wants to camp near us, we'll be on 12th between Lindbergh and Elm.
-0-
Next up on the agenda, however, is the RV Family Reunion BBQ, scheduled for July 26th, 6 p.m. We're trying to round up a few volunteers. This is a really hard thing to pull off with one or two people, both from a time and money perspective, for even the simplest get-together. (It's usually two-three days of work,without going to the Flight line or show). So we're still looking for a few volunteers. Please see the duty roster at http://home.comcast.net/~bcollinsrv7a/eaa/2006bbq.html (http://home.comcast.net/~bcollinsrv7a/eaa/2006bbq.html). If we can get enough help, we'll go ahead with this year's version.
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=32320#32320
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
True, but some people like computer software.
-Joe
do not archive
On May 2, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Condon, Philip M. wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
>
> In all seriousness, swipe a bunch of minilla folder) from work, grab
> the ruler and your old circle compass (with the pencil piece in it)
> and
> a Spruce catalog. Go to the instrument pages in the Spruce catalog
> then
> cut yourself a bunch of 3 1/3 instrument and 2.25 circle/squares from
> the minilla folders and have fun with placement on a flat surface..use
> your imagination with your new cutouts. Why learn a piece of software
> just to use it once...some of the software packages are are not
> intuitive and the time spent learning them is a waste...........
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Clearance Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
Hey Paul,
I am assuming the 8 day clock is the wind up type. Is it still for sale?=
E me back at rice737@msn.com.
Thanks,
Paul Rice =20
RV8 finishing kit
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: RV-List: Panel Clearance Sale
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Ok..working on the new panel and have a bunch of stuff
for sale:
Altimeter: $100
VSI: $75
ACK Encoder: $50
Terra Transponder: $200
Sigtronics Stereo Intercom: $50
Vans 2 lever quadrant (but have extra parts to make 3
lever) $25
All Guages $20 each
Amps/Volts
CHT/EGT
Vans Fuel Pressure
Oil PSI/Temp
8 Day Clock
Shipping $5 each unless you buy more than one item,
and it's still $5 for the total order. I can take
paypal or check in the mail is fine. Pictures are on
Vans airforce.com
do not archive
Paul Besing
RV-4 Arizona
73DD
__________________________________________________
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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around =20
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| Subject: | engine timing at HWD |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Parker Thomas" <me@parkerthomas.com>
Hi there -
Does anyone out there know of a mechanic who could help me time an 0-320
later this week at HWD in the Bay Area?
Thanks,
Parker
____________________________________
F. Parker Thomas
ShredFirst
phone 510-433-0200
fax 510-217-5976
parker@shredfirst.biz
www.shredfirst.biz
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Well, sure enough. I never got past the registration screen.
Jeff
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Great timing.....right after I sent this there was a mail flood attack on
another server in my datacenter which took a couple of routers down, so my
server could not communicate. Everything should be good now...
I wish they could catch these bastards and string them up by their shirt
hairs!!
-Bill
please do not archive...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
There are also some very good tutorials in the FAQ section of the Support
Center... They will walk you through everything the ePanel builder will
do...
-Bill
www.epanelbuilder.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Last time I was there, there was still a free version. You have to sign up
for a free account to use it though. Most of the editing functions of the
pay version are turned off, but it'll do everything the old version did,
just have to play around with it to figure out how the new version does it.
Marty Puckett
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Point
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: panel design
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Bill,
Any chance you've changed your mind about returning the free, no-frills
version that used to be available?
Jeff Point
do not archive
Bill VonDane wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>www.epanelbuilder.com
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Vince Frazier
3965 Caborn Road
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839 work
812-985-7309 home
F-1H Rocket, N540VF
http://vincesrocket.com/airplane%20junk.html
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| Subject: | RV-List Digest: panel design |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
>
> In all seriousness, swipe a bunch of minilla folder) from
> work, grab the ruler and your old circle compass (with the
> pencil piece in it) and a Spruce catalog. Go to the
> instrument pages in the Spruce catalog then cut yourself a
> bunch of 3 1/3 instrument and 2.25 circle/squares from the
> minilla folders and have fun with placement on a flat
> surface..use your imagination with your new cutouts. Why
> learn a piece of software just to use it once...some of the
> software packages are are not intuitive and the time spent
> learning them is a waste...........
I agree with Phil - for something as important as panel design, lay it out
and sit in your plane. Go through the various phases of flight, developing
initial checklists. The panel layout should make sense from a startup,
taxi, runup, takeoff, cruise, etc. point of view. Most overlook this.
Think about finding the right switch at night (ever try that along a long
line of switches)? CAD has its place, but more important is the general
layout of the panel, and the sticky notes, or cardboard cutouts, as Phil
discusses, is the best starting point. (In case you are tempted to light
the torch, I spend many hours a week using CAD packages in my line of work,
so it is not that I'm somehow "old fashioned". I just know what their
limitations are.)
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 752 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Parashak <paulmike@parashak.net>
Did you notice that all the officers photos had them holding
helmets...even the PAO. Wonder how much stick time the PAO gets?
Paul
On May 2, 2006, at 07:15, Ken Howell wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Howell" <cfi1513840@comcast.net>
>
> Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...
>
> Ken - Do not archive
>
> http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L.
> Werner
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:31 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner"
> <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> Pete,
>
> You must be single . . . ? :-)
>
> I met a few WASP's, and they flew aircraft many of us can only dream =
> about. Great gal's, and even greater pilots!
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Pete Cowper=20
> To: rv-list@matronics.com=20
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:17 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper)
>
> We taildragger fans will have to concede that the delivery of the =
> first
> Atomic Bomb was trusted to the nose-wheeled B-29.
>
> Of course by the end of the war there were so many women pilots that
> they may have had to begin moving the little wheels to the front of =
> all
> aircraft . . .=20
>
> Pete Cowper
> RV-8 #81139 working on fuselage with tail spring proudly mounted.
>
>
> =
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| Subject: | Cessna junk and other goodies |
Cc: <rv-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Sorry for the spam but someone on the list might need some of these. =20
I have a pair of Cessna spring steel gear, several C-150 wings in
damaged but what appear to be in restorable condition, and other misc.
Cessna parts. A Cessna "buddy" seat back, a bunch of C-150 nosegears.
And also a damaged C-180 wing.
The Cessna nosegears came off a hydraulics trainer used at Vincennes
University. They look like new and even have the shimmy dampers, and
good tires! Price just the damper alone if you want your eyes popped.
Pics on the URL below. I'll send more details to interested persons.
Please reply off list if interested.
http://vincesrocket.com/airplane%20junk.html =20
do not archive
Thanks,
Vince Frazier
3965 Caborn Road
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839 work M-F
812-985-7309 home
cessna-list@matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Paul,
Please define her getting "STICK" time?=20
What exactly do you mean by that? =20
Sorry, I simply could not resist
no offense meant to anyone
please do not archive ever
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Paul Parashak=20
To: rv-list@matronics.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Parashak <paulmike@parashak.net>
Did you notice that all the officers photos had them holding =20
helmets...even the PAO. Wonder how much stick time the PAO gets?
Paul
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| Subject: | What is the best way to determine speed improvements? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
I have used 3-way GPS runs in the past.
I have started using 4 way GPS runs.
I tried using the Excel program on Kevin Horton's site and did not
do very well. Both runs (yesterday and today) had a Standard Deviation
of around 3.
Point 2 below is the data in knots and today's is Point 3 (in MPH). The
final TAS
was identical in both cases which seems oddly coincidental.
I use a GPS to average the speed for each directional run which I had hoped
would smooth out piloting errors. Apparently it did not.
I am curious how well others do on this and whether I should just go up
and record the IAS under set conditions then redo it after making a change
that may improve airspeed (such as Pressure recovery wheelpants).
Ron Lee
Point 2 Vwind Wind dir Vtrue
Vg Track (kts) (deg) (kts)
148 352 14.7 336 161.8
160 252 12.1 308 166.8
176 166 19.2 307 161.7
175 84 20.8 326 166.6
ave 16.7 319.4 164.2
std dev 2.9
All these values are MPH
Point 3 Vwind Wind dir Vtrue
Vg Track (kts) (deg) (kts)
190 352 21.7 265 192.5
171 256 17.5 286 186.4
194 168 10.3 271 191.9
202 80 15.8 247 186.6
ave 16.3 267.5 189.3
std dev 3.3
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| Subject: | Re: What is the best way to determine speed improvements? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 2-May-06, at 7:37 PM, Ron Lee wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> I have used 3-way GPS runs in the past.
>
> I have started using 4 way GPS runs.
>
> I tried using the Excel program on Kevin Horton's site and did not
> do very well. Both runs (yesterday and today) had a Standard
> Deviation
> of around 3.
>
> Point 2 below is the data in knots and today's is Point 3 (in
> MPH). The
> final TAS
> was identical in both cases which seems oddly coincidental.
>
> I use a GPS to average the speed for each directional run which I
> had hoped
> would smooth out piloting errors. Apparently it did not.
>
> I am curious how well others do on this and whether I should just
> go up
> and record the IAS under set conditions then redo it after making a
> change
> that may improve airspeed (such as Pressure recovery wheelpants).
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
> Point 2 Vwind Wind dir Vtrue
> Vg Track (kts) (deg) (kts)
> 148 352 14.7 336 161.8
> 160 252 12.1 308 166.8
> 176 166 19.2 307 161.7
> 175 84 20.8 326 166.6
> ave 16.7 319.4 164.2
> std dev 2.9
>
>
> All these values are MPH
>
> Point 3 Vwind Wind dir Vtrue
> Vg Track (kts) (deg) (kts)
> 190 352 21.7 265 192.5
> 171 256 17.5 286 186.4
> 194 168 10.3 271 191.9
> 202 80 15.8 247 186.6
> ave 16.3 267.5 189.3
> std dev 3.3
>
Ron,
There are several possible explanations for the poor quality data:
1. The weather conditions may not have been good enough. You need
really smooth air, and the wind direction and speed at the test
altitude must be steady.
2. You made a mistake when copying down one or more of the numbers.
This is easy to do.
3. You didn't fly as accurately as necessary. If you want good
quality data, the flying must be very accurate. The altitude and IAS
for each run must be exactly the same. You need to fly a constant
heading long enough for the GPS to filter out any variations and
provide a steady track and GS.
The key to success - I find it extremely difficult to get good data
unless I have someone with me to record the data. That lets me
concentrate on flying the aircraft. If I have someone to record the
data, I can normally get a std deviation of less than one knot, but
I've been doing this sort of stuff for many years.
Don't get discouraged. Practice makes perfect. Accurate performance
testing takes a lot of work.
As far as simply recording IAS. That can work, if you have developed
a test procedure that gives a repeatable result. If you get the same
IAS on several different flights, then you have an idea of what the
performance is. Don't simply take IAS readings on one flight, and
believe that they are guaranteed to be accurate.
Good luck,
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Valley RVators Formation Clinic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Thanks for the reports guys you have made me real homesick.
Falcon/Kahuna, be thinking about how to incorporate at least a few of the
bomber model RV10s into formations.
There are already more than 30 flying and they are coming out of the garages
at a good clip.
35th anniversary flight?
Frogman
Dick Sipp
#40065
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| Subject: | Re: Firesleeving |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Scroggs" <rv4ross@charter.net>
Ralph,
According to the ACS catalog, page 122, the 303-4 hose uses AE102-9, the
303-6 uses
AE102-12. Both firesleeve's use the 900591B-2C clamp.
Don't think I've ever seen firesleeve on a flow meter/transducer.
Ross Scroggs
RV-4 #3911
Locust Grove, GA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: RV-List: Firesleeving
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Folks,
>
>>From what I've seen, most folks are not firesleeving their oil cooler
>>feed/return/pressure lines nor their fuel pressure line which I'm OK with.
>
> Fuel feed/return lines I think need to be firesleeved.....
>
> I'm having a problem determining what size firesleeve to use. The ACS
> website has a table for their firesleeve parts which does not list the 303
> hose that we're supposed to use.
>
> I'm getting ready to buy the stuff to build my fuel hoses - including the
> firesleeving. I'll be building an assembly that includes a pair of hoses
> and a fuel flow meter - I'm guessing that I'll need a larger chunk of
> firesleeve to go over the flow meter.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the correct size of Firesleeving is for a 303-4,
> 303-6, and Flowscan 201 fuel flow meter?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>
>
>
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