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1. 03:56 AM - Tail Wheel Woes ... (Nic)
2. 05:07 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
3. 05:26 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Alex Peterson)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (rver273sb@aol.com)
5. 06:12 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Mickey Coggins)
6. 06:34 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Tracy Crook)
7. 06:36 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes ... (Dan Checkoway)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: FAB and carb wear, '98 FP O-320 RV-6A (Bob)
9. 07:56 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (chaztuna@adelphia.net)
10. 08:46 AM - Re: Tru Trak Digitrak Issues (sportav8r@aol.com)
11. 08:46 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Jim Anglin)
12. 09:02 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Skylor Piper)
13. 09:51 AM - Re: Tru Trak Digitrak Issues (Mickey Coggins)
14. 10:12 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Tracy Crook)
15. 10:42 AM - Looking for reviews on the Lowrance AirMap 2000C (Jeff Dowling)
16. 10:56 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Terry Watson)
17. 11:04 AM - steps breaking on tri gear rvs (frank goggio)
18. 11:14 AM - Re: Tail Wheel SB? (Bob)
19. 11:21 AM - Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs (Ralph E. Capen)
20. 11:25 AM - Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
21. 12:07 PM - Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs (sportav8r@aol.com)
22. 12:50 PM - Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs (frank goggio)
23. 01:41 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Jerry Springer)
24. 01:55 PM - RV-4 for Sale (Jim Cimino)
25. 01:56 PM - Archer for Sale (Jim Cimino)
26. 02:34 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Woes (Wentz, Don)
27. 02:34 PM - For the couple of people that email me!!! (Jerry Springer)
28. 03:29 PM - Wrong e-mail for the RV-4 for sale (Jim Cimino)
29. 05:59 PM - Lightspeed EI installation (Doug Weiler)
30. 06:21 PM - Re: Lightspeed EI installation (Alex Peterson)
31. 06:33 PM - Re: Lightspeed EI installation (Dan Checkoway)
32. 08:07 PM - Re: Looking for reviews on the Lowrance AirMap 2000C (Steven DiNieri)
33. 09:03 PM - Looking for an O-320E2A (Charles Heathco)
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| Subject: | Tail Wheel Woes ... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nic" <Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk>
Ron,
Same problem here with the tailwheel doing it's own merry dance, which very
very nearly spoilt my day with a strong cross-wind and severely reduced
directional control .
The woodruff key was stuck in. Just shows how a ten pence item can cause
chaos - I think with an item of this nature which has a history of going
wrong - there should be a design or parts change or perhaps just better
manufacturing QC.
I have ordered a new tailwheel from Doug Bell, and I am hopeful that this
problem will be a thing of the past, and in the meantime it is a priority
part of my pre-flight.
Rgds, Nic
>Hi all,
>I had an incident last week that really got my attention. Upon landing,
>when I lowered my RV-8's tail wheel to the runway the tail popped back
>up suddenly and when it came down again the airplane made a sudden
20-degree left turn off the runway .......
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Yes and it's the 3rd time in 200 hours I have removed the key, cleaned,
filed, and polished. Something is not right with this design but I cant
put my finger on it. ARGH!
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
>
>I had an incident last week that really got my attention.
Ron, Kahuna had the same problem with his tailwheel upon landing at PKB
during the clinic. Same deal, I was with Speedy when we pulled the
tailwheel. A little deburring was done in Smoozer's hanger. Clean it
out,
deburr and don't ding Miss Izzy, too nice of a bird.
If you guys don't know Ron, look at the pictures of the "diamond of
diamonds" at vansairforce PKB clinic. Ron is the right hand stinger at
the
tailend. He is also shown in Kahuna's second flight video at the same
site.
Good luck Ron,
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> --> <mstewart@iss.net>
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> Yes and it's the 3rd time in 200 hours I have removed the
> key, cleaned, filed, and polished. Something is not right
> with this design but I cant put my finger on it. ARGH!
>
> Mike
> Do not archive
It would appear that we need a two wheel RV, given the problems with both
kinds of third wheels!
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 752 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: rver273sb@aol.com
Listers, I have 1450 hrs on my vans full swivel t/w. I had the inner sleeve rotate
because the grease zirk was not engaging the sleeve. Other than that. no problems.
Stewart RV-4
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From: Alex Peterson <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Sent: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:25:29 -0500
Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> --> <mstewart@iss.net>
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> Yes and it's the 3rd time in 200 hours I have removed the
> key, cleaned, filed, and polished. Something is not right
> with this design but I cant put my finger on it. ARGH!
>
> Mike
> Do not archive
It would appear that we need a two wheel RV, given the problems with both
kinds of third wheels!
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 752 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> It would appear that we need a two wheel RV, given the problems with both
> kinds of third wheels!
Good one! I guess designing the 3rd wheel is not the
glamor job of Van's engineering department. Here's
how the meeting of Van and his engineers might have
gone:
Van: "OK, last on the agenda, any volunteers to
design the third wheel?"
<silence - crickets chirping>
Van: "All right, you - new guy - yea, you. Wake up! ..."
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
These tailwheel problems are obviously the result of running the =
incorrect engine in your RVs. The fine mist of Marvel Mystery Oil =
residue from my rotary engines' exhaust constantly bathes my tailwheel =
with just the proper amount of lubricant. It has worked flawlessly for =
1550+ hours with minimal (zero) maintenance. And that oily =
brownish-red streak down the belly just makes the plane faster.
Tracy Crook
13B Rotary powered RV-4 1550+ hours
20B Rotary powered RV-8 - Soon
Sense of humor - over worked
----- Original Message -----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>
To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" =
<mstewart@iss.net<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>>
Yes and it's the 3rd time in 200 hours I have removed the key, =
cleaned,
filed, and polished. Something is not right with this design but I =
cant
put my finger on it. ARGH!
Mike
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:49 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" =
<bo124rs@hotmail.com<mailto:bo124rs@hotmail.com>>
>From: "Ron Schreck" =
<ronschreck@alltel.net<mailto:ronschreck@alltel.net>>
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>I had an incident last week that really got my attention.
Ron, Kahuna had the same problem with his tailwheel upon landing at =
PKB
during the clinic. Same deal, I was with Speedy when we pulled the
tailwheel. A little deburring was done in Smoozer's hanger. Clean it
out,
deburr and don't ding Miss Izzy, too nice of a bird.
If you guys don't know Ron, look at the pictures of the "diamond of
diamonds" at vansairforce PKB clinic. Ron is the right hand stinger =
at
the
tailend. He is also shown in Kahuna's second flight video at the same
site.
Good luck Ron,
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes ... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> The woodruff key was stuck in. Just shows how a ten pence item can cause
> chaos - I think with an item of this nature which has a history of going
> wrong - there should be a design or parts change or perhaps just better
> manufacturing QC.
>
> I have ordered a new tailwheel from Doug Bell, and I am hopeful that this
> problem will be a thing of the past, and in the meantime it is a priority
> part of my pre-flight.
Nic,
The problem you saw would have occurred with Doug Bell's tailwheel fork as
well -- and while Doug's tailwheel fork is very nice (I have one), it's not
a cure-all. It has the identical key/shaft design as Van's fork...in fact
you use Van's key with it.
We ought to do "regular maintenance" on our tailwheels regardless of
tailwheel/fork type. FWIW, I completely disassemble, clean, rebuild, and
lube my tailwheel/fork every 75-100 hours or so, with at least one interim
lube through the zerk fitting (more often if I've taxied through puddles or
flown through rain). The key gets particular attention and I usually do
have to smooth out the burrs that are forming, even if it hadn't caused a
problem yet. If you pay close attention you can "feel" the symptom coming
on over time and avoid it.
That said, imho all taildragger pilots need to be prepared for the scenario
where they have no tailwheel steering on landing. The plane flies just
fine, and you should have rudder authority down to a speed at which
differential braking is used (yet another reason to keep your brakes in
tip-top shape). This may sound funny, but if the key ever sticks and you
lose steering, my 2 cents is to *take advantage* of that opportunity to
practice handling it -- before you fix it. Maybe not a takeoff/landing if
you're not confident about that, but at least taxi around a bit and get the
feel for using only rudder & brakes. That way you're better prepared if and
when it bites you.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (901 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: FAB and carb wear, '98 FP O-320 RV-6A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
Bill
Yes, at each annual I need to do something to fix the FAB, mainly where the
control cable attaches to the alt air door, I have replace it twice. Also
the the plate that mounts the FAB to the Carb has been replace due to
serious cracks.
Bob
>I'm curious whether anyone else has experienced this thing with their carb
>and FAB gradually coming apart in pieces.
>
>-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
Cc: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: chaztuna@adelphia.net
Tracy
Is that the aviation equivilent of British rust proofing for cars? :-)
do not archive
Charlie Kuss
---- Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> These tailwheel problems are obviously the result of running the =
> incorrect engine in your RVs. The fine mist of Marvel Mystery Oil =
> residue from my rotary engines' exhaust constantly bathes my tailwheel =
> with just the proper amount of lubricant. It has worked flawlessly for =
> 1550+ hours with minimal (zero) maintenance. And that oily =
> brownish-red streak down the belly just makes the plane faster.
>
> Tracy Crook
> 13B Rotary powered RV-4 1550+ hours
> 20B Rotary powered RV-8 - Soon
> Sense of humor - over worked
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:01 AM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" =
> <mstewart@iss.net<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>>
>
> Yes and it's the 3rd time in 200 hours I have removed the key, =
> cleaned,
> filed, and polished. Something is not right with this design but I =
> cant
> put my finger on it. ARGH!
>
> Mike
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: =
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> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:49 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" =
> <bo124rs@hotmail.com<mailto:bo124rs@hotmail.com>>
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> >From: "Ron Schreck" =
> <ronschreck@alltel.net<mailto:ronschreck@alltel.net>>
> >
> >I had an incident last week that really got my attention.
>
> Ron, Kahuna had the same problem with his tailwheel upon landing at =
> PKB
> during the clinic. Same deal, I was with Speedy when we pulled the
> tailwheel. A little deburring was done in Smoozer's hanger. Clean it
> out,
> deburr and don't ding Miss Izzy, too nice of a bird.
>
> If you guys don't know Ron, look at the pictures of the "diamond of
> diamonds" at vansairforce PKB clinic. Ron is the right hand stinger =
> at
> the
> tailend. He is also shown in Kahuna's second flight video at the same
> site.
>
> Good luck Ron,
>
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Trak Digitrak Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I "went Trio," have had some issues which they were extremely quick and helpful
with, and now have but one regret: eventual compatibility with GRT EFIS for coupled
approach capability (specifically the glideslope portion) seems far off
in the future and doubtful at best. My Trio system may be reluctantly for sale
later this year, as I make the transition to glass panel and IFR capability.
But I cannot say enough good things about the performance vs. price and the
customer care at Trio.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RV-List: Tru Trak Digitrak Issues
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Anyone have issues with TruTrak lately? It took about
6 weeks to get mine after begging and pleading they
send it to me. Finally I said, "I at least need the
servo since my whole airplane insides are removed and
would like to install it." They said fine, but then
said the got one together to send me.
They don't keep finished autopilots on the shelf, I'm
told. John Stark is who I purchased it from and he
said 2-4 weeks is typical, but mine was more like 6.
Not a big deal if you are building your airplane, but
when you are planning trips and planning a new
instrument panel install on a finished airplane,
delivery time become an issue.
Then, when it showed up in the mail, the darn buttons
that have the arched arrows are installed backwards.
So now I have to send the darn thing back and not fly
with it on a trip this weekend like I had planned.
Not good so far...after reading the Trio website, I'm
thinking I should have gone Trio. (not to start a
trio/trutrak war, by any means)
Paul Besing
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
I have Van's locking tailwheel and the pin on mine became stuck in the =
retracted position also, requiring some filing and fitting. I noticed =
it when the rudder pedals were not effective turning off the runway. I =
also don't think the grease fitting is effective in getting grease =
throughout the spindle. I take mine loose periodically and lube the =
whole thing by hand.
Jim Anglin
HR II N144HR
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
It would appear that third wheel design at Vans' ranks
right up there with baffles and IO-360 induction
snorkels!
Incidently, the induction snorkel kit for forward
induction engines is the biggest joke I've ever
seen...right down to the half assed hand sketches in
the instructions.
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
--- Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins
> <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
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> > It would appear that we need a two wheel RV, given
> the problems with both
> > kinds of third wheels!
>
> Good one! I guess designing the 3rd wheel is not
> the
> glamor job of Van's engineering department. Here's
> how the meeting of Van and his engineers might have
> gone:
>
> Van: "OK, last on the agenda, any volunteers to
> design the third wheel?"
>
> <silence - crickets chirping>
>
> Van: "All right, you - new guy - yea, you. Wake up!
> ..."
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> Mickey Coggins
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Trak Digitrak Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I "went Trio," have had some issues which they were extremely quick
> and helpful with, and now have but one regret: eventual compatibility
> with GRT EFIS for coupled approach capability (specifically the
> glideslope portion) seems far off in the future and doubtful at best.
> My Trio system may be reluctantly for sale later this year, as I make
> the transition to glass panel and IFR capability. But I cannot say
> enough good things about the performance vs. price and the customer
> care at Trio.
I've got the Trio AP as well, and I plan to install their altitude
hold. At least I've got a couple of holes in my panel waiting
for it.
Those Trio guys are great to work with. I have not had a problem
with mine, but I'm not yet flying. Any questions I've had
were answered very quickly and very thoroughly.
I'm sure they would be happy to work with GRT to make sure
their AP works with the EFIS. GRT must realize that TruTrak
is becoming a competitor, having recently announced their
own EFIS product.
I hope you won't need to remove your Trio to get full use
of your GRT EFIS. Perhaps now is the time for those of us
using the Trio and the GRT EFIS to start sending in our
requirements.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
For biggest joke, I vote for the supplementary instruction sheet on RV-8 =
fuselage QB kits. It reads (and I'm not making this up):
"Start at the tail and work forward."
I spent more time digging the necessary steps from instruction manual =
than doing them.
Tracy Crook
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper =
<skylor4@yahoo.com<mailto:skylor4@yahoo.com>>
It would appear that third wheel design at Vans' ranks
right up there with baffles and IO-360 induction
snorkels!
Incidently, the induction snorkel kit for forward
induction engines is the biggest joke I've ever
seen...right down to the half assed hand sketches in
the instructions.
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
--- Mickey Coggins =
<mick-matronics@rv8.ch<mailto:mick-matronics@rv8.ch>> wrote:
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| Subject: | Looking for reviews on the Lowrance AirMap 2000C |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Anyone out there using this with the new terrain awareness chip? Pros,
cons.....
do not archive
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: <LessDragProd@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Performance Problem Analysis
> --> RV-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com
>
>
> It does pay to look very closely at Tracy Saylor's RV-6, and notice what
> is
> NOT there.
>
> If I remember correctly, Tracy has 4 individual exhaust pipes pointing aft
> that end just behind the carburetor inside the cowl. I believe the
> installation is still this way. However, things keep changing on Tracy's
> RV-6. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/10/2006 6:23:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> bicyclop@pacbell.net writes:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
>
> Tracy Saylor, who's got a very fast 6, modified an old style Van's cowl
> with inlet rings from Dave Anders and a homemade plenum. He was having
> heat problems which he tried to solve with a cowl flap. That didn't help
> so he took it off and the increased exit area with the flap removed was
> just the ticket. I guess this principle would be: 1.a - less inlet area
> + extra outlet area makes for reduced pressure under the engine and more
> efficient air movement = less cooling drag and improved cooling. One
> could also try an extractor lip on the bottom of the cowl to help the
> air exit better. Look at the CAF foundation reports.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed Holyoke
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
You guys are going to be in trouble when Jerry sees this!
Terry
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
For biggest joke, I vote for the supplementary instruction sheet on RV-8 =
fuselage QB kits. It reads (and I'm not making this up):
"Start at the tail and work forward."
I spent more time digging the necessary steps from instruction manual =
than doing them.
Tracy Crook
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper =
<skylor4@yahoo.com<mailto:skylor4@yahoo.com>>
It would appear that third wheel design at Vans' ranks
right up there with baffles and IO-360 induction
snorkels!
Incidently, the induction snorkel kit for forward
induction engines is the biggest joke I've ever
seen...right down to the half assed hand sketches in
the instructions.
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
--- Mickey Coggins =
<mick-matronics@rv8.ch<mailto:mick-matronics@rv8.ch>> wrote:
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| Subject: | steps breaking on tri gear rvs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "frank goggio" <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
guys,dont get on the list much,but read a lot of whats on here, dont recall
anything about the steps on the nose gear models breaking,a friend has a new
9a with 68 hrs on it, was under it checking the bottom,wipeing it
off,happened to look up at the step on the drivers side from the bottom and
it was cracked,half way round right at the weld,you had to look close to see
it but its there, going to have to remove the step from the plane and reweld
it,it was the tube itself,not the weld,he stated that he checked with vans
and they were aware of this problem,this is the first i had heard of
this,has anyone else had this problem?,if you drive a nose gear with the
steps,you might check yours the next time out before it breaks on you and
dumps you in the dirt.just thought that i would pass this on, it might save
someome from getting hurt getting out of the plane, now i got to go check
mine,
frank goggio
fayeteville nc
rv6a
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel SB? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
This sounds like maybe a Mandatory Emergency (before the next flight) SB
that should be issued by Van's? Everyone that does not have this problem
should have to feel the pain (I personally would make this mandatory for
nosewheel RVs as well, they have it much too easy as it is).
Just like the fuel tank SB, billions of lives could be saved!?!
Bob
>The woodruff key was stuck in. Just shows how a ten pence item can cause
>chaos - I think with an item of this nature which has a history of going
>wrong - there should be a design or parts change or perhaps just better
>manufacturing QC.
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| Subject: | Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Haven't installed mine yet - guess I'll check the welds first......
Thanks for the heads-up!
-----Original Message-----
>From: frank goggio <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
>Sent: May 12, 2006 2:02 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: steps breaking on tri gear rvs
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "frank goggio" <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
>
>guys,dont get on the list much,but read a lot of whats on here, dont recall
>anything about the steps on the nose gear models breaking,a friend has a new
>9a with 68 hrs on it, was under it checking the bottom,wipeing it
>off,happened to look up at the step on the drivers side from the bottom and
>it was cracked,half way round right at the weld,you had to look close to see
>it but its there, going to have to remove the step from the plane and reweld
>it,it was the tube itself,not the weld,he stated that he checked with vans
>and they were aware of this problem,this is the first i had heard of
>this,has anyone else had this problem?,if you drive a nose gear with the
>steps,you might check yours the next time out before it breaks on you and
>dumps you in the dirt.just thought that i would pass this on, it might save
>someome from getting hurt getting out of the plane, now i got to go check
>mine,
>
>frank goggio
>fayeteville nc
>rv6a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | steps breaking on tri gear rvs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I had mine welded in place.
Mine cracked at the weld joint, underneath, at the tube to plate. A good
tig welder(not me) hardly blistered the nearby paint and no one could
tell.
Best,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of frank goggio
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: RV-List: steps breaking on tri gear rvs
--> RV-List message posted by: "frank goggio" <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
guys,dont get on the list much,but read a lot of whats on here, dont
recall
anything about the steps on the nose gear models breaking,a friend has a
new
9a with 68 hrs on it, was under it checking the bottom,wipeing it
off,happened to look up at the step on the drivers side from the bottom
and
it was cracked,half way round right at the weld,you had to look close to
see
it but its there, going to have to remove the step from the plane and
reweld
it,it was the tube itself,not the weld,he stated that he checked with
vans
and they were aware of this problem,this is the first i had heard of
this,has anyone else had this problem?,if you drive a nose gear with the
steps,you might check yours the next time out before it breaks on you
and
dumps you in the dirt.just thought that i would pass this on, it might
save
someome from getting hurt getting out of the plane, now i got to go
check
mine,
frank goggio
fayeteville nc
rv6a
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| Subject: | Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
My suggested fix, if it cracks: bend it back & forth till it breaks off, then fill
with Bondo and paint over. Do without from then on.
I have a Van's mother-in-law step for the pax, but it is a luxury, and probably
costs a knot or two, hangin' out in the breeze. When I get too old to mount
my "steed" without a step, it's time to hang up the spurs...
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
Sent: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:23:20 -0400
Subject: RE: RV-List: steps breaking on tri gear rvs
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
I had mine welded in place.
Mine cracked at the weld joint, underneath, at the tube to plate. A good
tig welder(not me) hardly blistered the nearby paint and no one could
tell.
Best,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of frank goggio
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: RV-List: steps breaking on tri gear rvs
--> RV-List message posted by: "frank goggio" <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
guys,dont get on the list much,but read a lot of whats on here, dont
recall
anything about the steps on the nose gear models breaking,a friend has a
new
9a with 68 hrs on it, was under it checking the bottom,wipeing it
off,happened to look up at the step on the drivers side from the bottom
and
it was cracked,half way round right at the weld,you had to look close to
see
it but its there, going to have to remove the step from the plane and
reweld
it,it was the tube itself,not the weld,he stated that he checked with
vans
and they were aware of this problem,this is the first i had heard of
this,has anyone else had this problem?,if you drive a nose gear with the
steps,you might check yours the next time out before it breaks on you
and
dumps you in the dirt.just thought that i would pass this on, it might
save
someome from getting hurt getting out of the plane, now i got to go
check
mine,
frank goggio
fayeteville nc
rv6a
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| Subject: | Re: steps breaking on tri gear rvs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "frank goggio" <fgoggio@nc.rr.com>
stormy,us short legged folks need a box to get in with out the steps,dont
want to fall off that,does that mean you are going to hang up your guns
too.<grin>
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Woes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
Terry Watson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
>You guys are going to be in trouble when Jerry sees this!
>
>Terry
>
>
>
LOL!!! good one Terry, I can't comment on something I don't know
anything about. I don't have a QB or an
RV-8 or an RV with the third wheel in the wrong place nor do I have a
full swivel tailwheel. Sounds like
I should be glad I don't :-)
>-> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
>For biggest joke, I vote for the supplementary instruction sheet on RV-8 =
>fuselage QB kits. It reads (and I'm not making this up):
>
> "Start at the tail and work forward."
>
>
I don't understand the problem with those instructions sounds perfectly
logical to me. :) Having built RV-6
number two any instructions sounds good to me. I've said it before I had
100 hours on my airplane before
I got the finnish kit instructions.
>I spent more time digging the necessary steps from instruction manual =
>than doing them.
>
>Tracy Crook
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper =
><skylor4@yahoo.com<mailto:skylor4@yahoo.com>>
>
> It would appear that third wheel design at Vans' ranks
> right up there with baffles and IO-360 induction
> snorkels!
>
> Incidently, the induction snorkel kit for forward
> induction engines is the biggest joke I've ever
> seen...right down to the half assed hand sketches in
> the instructions.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE!
>
> --- Mickey Coggins =
>
>
>
Jerry
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
I am listing this for a friend of mine who has an RV-4 for sale. It has =
an O-320-D1A with 310 TTAE bought new from Van's. It is VFR and is in =
great shape. This is a very nice RV-4 that was built by a close friend =
of mine who is a retired sheet metal fabricator. This was the 3rd RV =
that he built and the workmanship is flawless. It is yellow and red. =
My friend is asking $45,000 for it. If you are interested or have any =
other questions you can contact Richard at rblakesl@ptd.net . Or I will =
try to answer any questions I can for you.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Cimino
N7TL
RV-8 S/N 80039
200+ Hours
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
A good friend of mine is selling his 1976 Archer. This plane is in =
great shape with low time and very low time on the engine. It has been =
hangered all it's life. It is IFR and would be a great aircraft for =
someone looking to haul four people or build time and get ratings. I =
have flown this plane many times and have no complaints. If you know =
anyone, drop me an e-mail and I will put you in touch with the owner. =
He is asking $65,000 for it.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Cimino
N7TL
RV-8 S/N 80039
200+ Hours
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
I've never had the pin stick in my full swivel in over 700hrs of use,
but like Jim, I take it off and lube it at least twice per year. Never
had to file it or anything, just wipe off the old grease and smear on
some new.
Dw
N790DW RV-6 925hrs
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Anglin
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tail Wheel Woes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
I have Van's locking tailwheel and the pin on mine became stuck in the =
retracted position also, requiring some filing and fitting. I noticed =
it when the rudder pedals were not effective turning off the runway. I
= also don't think the grease fitting is effective in getting grease =
throughout the spindle. I take mine loose periodically and lube the =
whole thing by hand.
Jim Anglin
HR II N144HR
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | For the couple of people that email me!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
I've switched from Comcast cable to Verizon FiOS (Fiber Optics)
internet service so new email address is.
jsflyrv@verizon.net
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Wrong e-mail for the RV-4 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Correction on Richard's e-mail address, it is:
rblakes@ptd.net
Thanks,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-4 for Sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
>
> I am listing this for a friend of mine who has an RV-4 for sale. It has =
> an O-320-D1A with 310 TTAE bought new from Van's. It is VFR and is in =
> great shape. This is a very nice RV-4 that was built by a close friend =
> of mine who is a retired sheet metal fabricator. This was the 3rd RV =
> that he built and the workmanship is flawless. It is yellow and red. =
> My friend is asking $45,000 for it. If you are interested or have any =
> other questions you can contact Richard at rblakesl@ptd.net . Or I will =
> try to answer any questions I can for you.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> Jim Cimino
> N7TL
> RV-8 S/N 80039
> 200+ Hours
> http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Lightspeed EI installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
Fellow Listers:
I am into a major project installing a dual Lightspeed Ignition system in my
flying RV-4. It will be using the direct crank sensor installation. This
project is just about done and I am beginning to do some preliminary tests
are stated in the LSI manual. I have run a magnetic across the sensors on
both systems on the direct crank sensor circuit board and the coils fire
fine across their terminals.
Here is my question. I have carefully measured the calculated clearance
between the sensors on the circuit board and the small magnets which are
installed in the ring gear (I had LSI install them so I assume they are in
the correct position). I have been trying to see if I can get the coils to
fire my temporarily positioning the starter ring gear and moving the engine
through TDC. No luck in getting them to fire. Now I don't know if this is
a valid test. I assume I am moving the ring gear fast enough through the
sensor positions but it is hard to say.
For any of you that have installed the LSI system with the direct crank
sensor, did you have any issues like this?. Or did you put it together and
it just ran??
Doug Weiler
N722DW, 290 hours
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| Subject: | Lightspeed EI installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
SNIP
> Here is my question. I have carefully measured the
> calculated clearance between the sensors on the circuit board
> and the small magnets which are installed in the ring gear (I
> had LSI install them so I assume they are in
> the correct position). I have been trying to see if I can
> get the coils to
> fire my temporarily positioning the starter ring gear and
> moving the engine through TDC. No luck in getting them to
> fire. Now I don't know if this is a valid test. I assume I
> am moving the ring gear fast enough through the sensor
> positions but it is hard to say.
>
> For any of you that have installed the LSI system with the
> direct crank sensor, did you have any issues like this?. Or
> did you put it together and it just ran??
>
> Doug Weiler
> N722DW, 290 hours
Doug, are you moving the ring gear back and forth? The sensor needs to see
two magnets within .5 seconds in order to fire.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 752 hours, with my own magnet issues with the Lightspeed
installation
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed EI installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
You need to rotate the prop (or flywheel) somewhat quickly to get it to
fire. I suspect the issue you're seeing is that you're not moving it
quickly enough. My experience with my Plasma II was that if you don't
rotate the prop/flywheel quickly enough during the phase test, you won't see
the coils firing.
Otherwise, Klaus should be able to help you. Give him a call on the
phone...contact info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.lightspeedengineering.com/
Where are you located? If you're anywhere near SoCal I could probably give
you a hand.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (901 hours on a Plasma II)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:45 PM
Subject: RV-List: Lightspeed EI installation
> --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
> Fellow Listers:
>
> I am into a major project installing a dual Lightspeed Ignition system in
> my
> flying RV-4. It will be using the direct crank sensor installation. This
> project is just about done and I am beginning to do some preliminary tests
> are stated in the LSI manual. I have run a magnetic across the sensors on
> both systems on the direct crank sensor circuit board and the coils fire
> fine across their terminals.
>
> Here is my question. I have carefully measured the calculated clearance
> between the sensors on the circuit board and the small magnets which are
> installed in the ring gear (I had LSI install them so I assume they are in
> the correct position). I have been trying to see if I can get the coils
> to
> fire my temporarily positioning the starter ring gear and moving the
> engine
> through TDC. No luck in getting them to fire. Now I don't know if this
> is
> a valid test. I assume I am moving the ring gear fast enough through the
> sensor positions but it is hard to say.
>
> For any of you that have installed the LSI system with the direct crank
> sensor, did you have any issues like this?. Or did you put it together
> and
> it just ran??
>
> Doug Weiler
> N722DW, 290 hours
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for reviews on the Lowrance AirMap 2000C |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
I've had mine since sun and fun and like it a lot. I bought the air
gizmo mount for the panel and remove it a lot for terrestrial travel. The
only squawks are the batteries (4 aa) are For backup only as they only last
about an hour. And the memory chip is 500 meg only big enough for the air
database with terrain. If you want to add highway info from the discs you
have to swap chips or buy a bigger one.
Strong points are the runway extensions and the terrain features.
Also menu navigation is easy to master.
Fwiw
Steve dinieri
40205
Subject: RV-List: Looking for reviews on the Lowrance AirMap 2000C
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Anyone out there using this with the new terrain awareness chip? Pros,
cons.....
do not archive
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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| Subject: | Looking for an O-320E2A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@cox.net>
Logs reconstructed on the high side but my 6a is running with a 2200hr =
per log engine, runs like a top, not a single leak, and nothing found in =
oil filter. Unlike most, I change oil AND filter at 25 hrs. Cant see =
running new oil tru a dirty filter as some folks do. I would run her =
till she shows signs of trouble, but shaking fingers has me spooked a =
little. Looks like an OH, will cost more than I can buy a good engine =
for. And of course, I could take Tweetybird in for an OH, and horror of =
horrors, that reasonable cost could get out of hand as they found crank =
out of tollerance, probably cam as well. If I were gambling I would =
choose a cert rebuilt over having mine donw for that reasonm. I have =
seen engines in $12k range with near zero time, but never get a reply, =
guess they went. I had a buddy that had 2500 on his O-360 in his Grumman =
5A when he sold it, also have a freind than got 3200 out of his O-320 in =
a C model. Any Help? Charlie Heathco
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