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1. 01:04 AM - Re: Ryton sumps (RAS)
2. 03:41 AM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related ()
3. 03:44 AM - not rv related (Glen Matejcek)
4. 05:04 AM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (Bob)
5. 05:28 AM - 0-320 E2D $10,500 (Gary Childers)
6. 05:33 AM - Re: Ryton sumps (BPA)
7. 06:24 AM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (sportav8r@aol.com)
8. 10:41 AM - Ryton:Sniffle Valve (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
9. 12:17 PM - 0-320-E2D $10,500 (Gary Childers)
10. 12:17 PM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (Chuck Jensen)
11. 12:48 PM - Hangar Question - More Info (Tim Bryan)
12. 01:45 PM - Re: Hangar Info (Konrad L. Werner)
13. 02:19 PM - Re: Hangar Info (John Jessen)
14. 02:19 PM - Re: Hangar Question - More Info (John D.Heath)
15. 02:46 PM - Canopy cover (PGLong@aol.com)
16. 03:20 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Mike Kraus)
17. 03:22 PM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (Chris W)
18. 03:25 PM - Re: Hangar Question - More Info (Darrell Reiley)
19. 03:40 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Tony Marshall)
20. 04:37 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Richard Dudley)
21. 04:38 PM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
22. 05:18 PM - Re: Hangar Question - More Info (Jack Haviland)
23. 05:24 PM - Re: Hangar question - Not RV related (Terry Watson)
24. 05:30 PM - Re: Hangar Question - More Info (Charlie England)
25. 06:29 PM - wing walk anti-slip (Heinrich Gerhardt)
26. 07:04 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Chopper 2)
27. 07:04 PM - Re: wing walk anti-slip (Steven DiNieri)
28. 07:15 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Larry Bowen)
29. 09:00 PM - Re: wing walk anti-slip (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
30. 09:07 PM - Re: make ur cover (WPAerial@aol.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Ryton sumps
> --> RV-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
>
> Regardless of what type of ignition source you have, or, which sump you
snip
Allen,
so why then don't any other sumps give the same problem as the Ryton?
regardless of make as you said in your post.
The method of using the electric boost pump is described method by Lycoming
to start their injected series of engines.
I'm somewhat confused by your post.
MJR
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>From: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
>I am drawing plans for a hangar on my own property.
>While the RV will fit in a much smaller hangar, it isn't
>prudent (IMHO) to build a hangar that small. What is
>the basic size of a hangar such as the typical T-hangars
>at the local airport? Width, depth, and ceiling height
>
>Thanks Tim RV-6 N616TB
Tim build it as large as you can afford and have room for.
Don't copy a T-hanger. I don't have dimensions but consider
the largest plane you may ever put it to it. The tallest planes
are Amphibian / Float planes. Consider a large twin like an
Aerostar or Navajo.
My plans (shelved for now) where for a hanger about 40 wide
by 50 feet (dream hanger 100 feet deep). In the back was a
shop and garage plus room for more than one plane. Don't
forget about height. You want to may be leave room for an
aircraft lift. http://www.armaerospace.com/
You forgot to mention MONEY. So build the biggest thing
you can. You will not regreat having too much room.
George
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Thanks to all who replied on and off line. I'm sure we won't go buggy now!
Do not archive!
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>Don't know what a T-Hanger size is, but built it a little bigger then =
>what you need whilst at it. You will never have to much room.
Except when you are trying to heat or cool it. In July and August it is
way too hot to work in, and then in Jan and Feb it is way to cold to work
in. If you have never tried heating a 50' X 50' uninsulated metal building
then you are in for a real surprise. A 250,000 BTU barn heater works great
if you are standing next to it!
Bob
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| Subject: | 0-320 E2D $10,500 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Childers <cowboy286@sbcglobal.net>
0-320-E2D For Sale $10,500 removing from my 68 Cessna Cardinal for HP upgrade.
3,000 TT, 1056 SMOH, 560 STOH, new cam, main and rod bearings, and oil pump gears
130 hrs ago for oil pump repair. includes vacuume pump, starter and alternator,
price is outright NO core. Contact cowboy286@sbcglobal.net
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--> RV-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
Because the Ryton sump is the non metal. All others, at least that I
know about, are either aluminum or magnesium mostly. When an engine
backfires, there is a flame front. Continuing to crank the engine puts
the flame out. Except of course with the Ryton sump.
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAS
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Ryton sumps
--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS"
<deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Ryton sumps
> --> RV-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
>
> Regardless of what type of ignition source you have, or, which sump
you
snip
Allen,
so why then don't any other sumps give the same problem as the Ryton?
regardless of make as you said in your post.
The method of using the electric boost pump is described method by
Lycoming
to start their injected series of engines.
I'm somewhat confused by your post.
MJR
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Tell 'em about your parachute trick, Bob ;-)
And be advised Stormy's fly-in is June 24th this year, and the LWB gang is all
invited for lunch.
-Bill B
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
Sent: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:56:55 -0500
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar question - Not RV related
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>Don't know what a T-Hanger size is, but built it a little bigger then =
>what you need whilst at it. You will never have to much room.
Except when you are trying to heat or cool it. In July and August it is
way too hot to work in, and then in Jan and Feb it is way to cold to work
in. If you have never tried heating a 50' X 50' uninsulated metal building
then you are in for a real surprise. A 250,000 BTU barn heater works great
if you are standing next to it!
Bob
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| Subject: | Ryton:Sniffle Valve |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
... and be sure to test that sniffle valve before install. My first one from
Superior leaked air in the "closed" position.
Jerry Cochran
In a message dated 5/18/2006 12:04:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rv-list@matronics.com writes:
Subject: RE: RV-List: Ryton sumps
From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>
Regardless of what type of ignition source you have, or, which sump you
have be it a Ryton, ECI, Lycoming, or Happy Joes from Kokamoe, if the
electric boost pump is used to prime the engine, you are getting fuel in
the intake plenum, plane (only spelling I know :)and simple! That is the
reason for the drain (sniffle valve). It is important that the sniffle
valve be located in the LOWEST spot on the induction part of the system,
with the plane at it's natural resting attitude. You have to realize
that if the pump is turned on say for 5 seconds, you have to wait until
you are confident that any excess fuel in the plenum has drained before
you crank the engine. This is in my opinion the cause of the Ryton
issue.
Allen Barrett
BPE, Inc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karen and
Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Ryton sumps
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| Subject: | 0-320-E2D $10,500 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gary Childers <cowboy286@sbcglobal.net>
0-320 E2D $10,500 Forgot to list mags and carb are also with it. Will be complete
with mags, carb, starter, alternator, and Vac Pump cowboy286@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Bob,
That's why they make radiant heaters. Heat only the object(s) you're
aiming at, not the 'hole dern building.
Chuck Jensen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:57 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar question - Not RV related
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>
>
> >Don't know what a T-Hanger size is, but built it a little bigger then
=
> >what you need whilst at it. You will never have to much room.
>
> Except when you are trying to heat or cool it. In July and August it
is
> way too hot to work in, and then in Jan and Feb it is way to cold to
work
> in. If you have never tried heating a 50' X 50' uninsulated metal
> building
> then you are in for a real surprise. A 250,000 BTU barn heater works
> great
> if you are standing next to it!
>
> Bob
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| Subject: | Hangar Question - More Info |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
There is a common theme running in the answers here, so will add some
additional info for my case. I am building an attached shop about 32 X 50
with 12' ceiling and an auto lift. I have this exact shop at my current
home and it is perfect. I have storage around the top 5' or so and 4' out
from the walls everywhere except the lift bay. The hangar will house only
my airplane, maybe some overflow storage, and if room, our travel trailer.
Should fit nicely with the RV-6. My real concern was building it big enough
to be sellable as a hangar to someone with a typical certified plane.
Question is, what might that all include. I could go to extreme and size it
for a mid size twin; but is that really practical?
Does 42' with a 40' clear opening door provide enough for most airplanes?
Is 36' deep enough for most? I am sure I will go 12' clear height inside
and through the door. This is why I was kinda thinking of the T-hangar
sizes. Are they sized to accomodate most typical planes? Of course, my
hangar will be rectangle (not T) as I have no need to waste the corners and
build more corners.
Heating and cooling could be an issue as I am talking about East Texas. But
most of my work would be done in my shop unless it is work on the plane.
Any rate, that has given me lots of interesting and usefull information.
Thanks a bunch. I will make it big enough to push visiting RV's in with
mine and hopefully a typical certified will fit *If* I ever sell. I will be
on a lake with great fishing AND a runway. How cool is that?
Tim
Do Not Archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Tim,
Your planned 40' wide, 12' high opening will work for most GA single's, =
unless it is a motorglider with long high aspect ratio wings. And 36' =
deep is more then adequate for the average airplane as well!
Note: When I built my hangar at an airfield with a lot of soaring =
activity, I decided to make the door wide enough to easily accommodate a =
15m sailplane. It ended up being a 52' door. On height I chose the max. =
the frame would allow, so I ended up with a 17' door to give me an =
absolute maximum opening of 15'. However, I have the upper stop set at =
~13' for non emergency day-2-day operation. Now that is a way bigger =
opening then I ever thought I would use.
Then along comes this soaring enthusiast with a 55' glider and wants to =
rent some space. Guess what, he had to move it in and out on a dolly =
(sideways), as the door was not wide enough for his bird !!!
Then a Schweizer Ag-Cat Crop-Duster had a propstrike that required =
engine teardown. Guess what, I've never seen an airplane that tall going =
through my door until then. You never know what tomorrow will bring. I =
would build it again as big as money would allow. You can always rent =
out space... (if you have it!)
PS: How many RV's will you be able to house there on that fishing =
weekend a few guys and I are planning ....
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Bryan
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: RV-List: Hangar Question - More Info
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" =
<flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
There is a common theme running in the answers here, so will add some
additional info for my case. I am building an attached shop about 32 =
X 50
with 12' ceiling and an auto lift. I have this exact shop at my =
current
home and it is perfect. I have storage around the top 5' or so and 4' =
out
from the walls everywhere except the lift bay. The hangar will house =
only
my airplane, maybe some overflow storage, and if room, our travel =
trailer.
Should fit nicely with the RV-6. My real concern was building it big =
enough
to be sellable as a hangar to someone with a typical certified plane.
Question is, what might that all include. I could go to extreme and =
size it
for a mid size twin; but is that really practical?
Does 42' with a 40' clear opening door provide enough for most =
airplanes?
Is 36' deep enough for most? I am sure I will go 12' clear height =
inside
and through the door. This is why I was kinda thinking of the =
T-hangar
sizes. Are they sized to accomodate most typical planes? Of course, =
my
hangar will be rectangle (not T) as I have no need to waste the =
corners and
build more corners.
Heating and cooling could be an issue as I am talking about East =
Texas. But
most of my work would be done in my shop unless it is work on the =
plane.
Any rate, that has given me lots of interesting and usefull =
information.
Thanks a bunch. I will make it big enough to push visiting RV's in =
with
mine and hopefully a typical certified will fit *If* I ever sell. I =
will be
on a lake with great fishing AND a runway. How cool is that?
Tim
Do Not Archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Very good point. Check out the wing span of a DA-40, as well. They are 44
feet, if I have that correct. Not going to work with my 42 foot hanger.
Also, keep in mind that the door frame often sticks out a foot on either
side, so the actual door opening can be 2 feet smaller than the box itself.
John Jessen
40328 (Tailcone)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar Info
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Tim,
Your planned 40' wide, 12' high opening will work for most GA single's, =
unless it is a motorglider with long high aspect ratio wings. And 36' = deep
is more then adequate for the average airplane as well!
Note: When I built my hangar at an airfield with a lot of soaring =
activity, I decided to make the door wide enough to easily accommodate a =
15m sailplane. It ended up being a 52' door. On height I chose the max. =
the frame would allow, so I ended up with a 17' door to give me an =
absolute maximum opening of 15'. However, I have the upper stop set at =
~13' for non emergency day-2-day operation. Now that is a way bigger =
opening then I ever thought I would use.
Then along comes this soaring enthusiast with a 55' glider and wants to =
rent some space. Guess what, he had to move it in and out on a dolly =
(sideways), as the door was not wide enough for his bird !!!
Then a Schweizer Ag-Cat Crop-Duster had a propstrike that required = engine
teardown. Guess what, I've never seen an airplane that tall going = through
my door until then. You never know what tomorrow will bring. I = would build
it again as big as money would allow. You can always rent = out space...
(if you have it!)
PS: How many RV's will you be able to house there on that fishing = weekend
a few guys and I are planning ....
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Bryan
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: RV-List: Hangar Question - More Info
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" = <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
There is a common theme running in the answers here, so will add some
additional info for my case. I am building an attached shop about 32 = X
50
with 12' ceiling and an auto lift. I have this exact shop at my = current
home and it is perfect. I have storage around the top 5' or so and 4' =
out
from the walls everywhere except the lift bay. The hangar will house =
only
my airplane, maybe some overflow storage, and if room, our travel =
trailer.
Should fit nicely with the RV-6. My real concern was building it big =
enough
to be sellable as a hangar to someone with a typical certified plane.
Question is, what might that all include. I could go to extreme and =
size it
for a mid size twin; but is that really practical?
Does 42' with a 40' clear opening door provide enough for most =
airplanes?
Is 36' deep enough for most? I am sure I will go 12' clear height =
inside
and through the door. This is why I was kinda thinking of the = T-hangar
sizes. Are they sized to accomodate most typical planes? Of course, = my
hangar will be rectangle (not T) as I have no need to waste the = corners
and
build more corners.
Heating and cooling could be an issue as I am talking about East = Texas.
But
most of my work would be done in my shop unless it is work on the = plane.
Any rate, that has given me lots of interesting and usefull = information.
Thanks a bunch. I will make it big enough to push visiting RV's in = with
mine and hopefully a typical certified will fit *If* I ever sell. I =
will be
on a lake with great fishing AND a runway. How cool is that?
Tim
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Question - More Info |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John D.Heath" <altoq@cebridge.net>
You might want to consider Spray-On Insulation like this link displays.
http://www.spray-on.com/default1.asp
John D.
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--> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with for my RV 4.
Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I don't know if this is considered light weight, but I have a Bruce's
Custom Cover for my RV-4 and love it.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PGLong@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: RV-List: Canopy cover
--> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with for my RV 4.
Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
Richard Seiders wrote:
>. . .ours is 3000sft. 50 wide 60 deep. Holds 3 rv's comfortably, but could do
4 with a little care.
>
>
Oh come on, you can fit 5 in there easy :)
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout01.gif
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout02.gif
Or even 6 if you try hard :)
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout03.gif
Not sure how accurate The plane drawing is, I just traced over the
three view bit map image from Vans website, then scaled it so the wing
span was 25 feet. After that, I had to tweak the tail wheel location
about 2 inches to get it to 20' 4" long.
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Question - More Info |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Tim,
This is the answer to your question and a whole lot more...
Looking for a Beautiful Custom Home with an Awesome Hanger? Here's a
deal for you!
(4) Bedrooms, (2.5) Baths (3) Car Garage (1) 40x50 Hanger(HUGE)
Beautiful Rock (Native White Limestone) home with approximately
2580 SQ Feet of total custom home living. This home is a Texas Ranch
Style with a large limestone fireplace and a metal roof which also
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sits on an approxiamate .82 acre corner lot and has a fenced
backyard. The Hanger is fully insulated, includes a 40 X 11 Hydro-
swing door which opens to a 50x65 cement apron with taxiway Bravo
cul-de-sac at your rear property line. This is a Private and Gated
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
http://kennoncovers.com
These guys made a cover for my RV6 and it is great....and they were great to
work with.
tony marshall
rv6
polson, mt
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From: <PGLong@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: RV-List: Canopy cover
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> I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with for my RV 4.
> Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
>
> Pat Long
> PGLong@aol.com
> N120PL
> RV4
> Bay City, Michigan
> 3CM
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley1@bellsouth.net>
Hi Pat,
I have a canopy cover for my -6A that I bought from Van's. It is very
light weight and is more suitable for occasional use such as traelling.
I would want something heaver for continuous use if my plane were tied
down all the time. I am very happy with mine for my limited outdoor use.
Regards,
Richard Dudley
PGLong@aol.com wrote:
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>I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with for my RV 4.
>Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
>
>Pat Long
>PGLong@aol.com
>N120PL
>RV4
>Bay City, Michigan
>3CM
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| Subject: | Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
As long as we are on the subject, any structural engineer types out =
there that could give me some off list advice? I am modifying the end =
wall of an existing steel building to accommodate a hanger door and want =
to run my plan by someone to make sure I won't have any problems.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com =
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris W
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar question - Not RV related
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
Richard Seiders wrote:
>. . .ours is 3000sft. 50 wide 60 deep. Holds 3 rv's comfortably, but =
could do 4 with a little care.
>
>
Oh come on, you can fit 5 in there easy :)
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout01.gif
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout02.gif
Or even 6 if you try hard :)
http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/RV-7HangarLayout03.gif
Not sure how accurate The plane drawing is, I just traced over the =
three view bit map image from Vans website, then scaled it so the wing =
span was 25 feet. After that, I had to tweak the tail wheel location =
about 2 inches to get it to 20' 4" long.
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Question - More Info |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jack Haviland <jgh2@charter.net>
> I was kinda thinking of the T-hangar
> sizes. Are they sized to accomodate most typical planes?
Tim,
A "typical" commercially built T-hangar intended for factory built single
engine aircraft is on the order 35' deep with a clear door opening 42' wide
and 12' high. Some or all of the major metal hangar building companies
have charts listing the height, width and depth of a wide variety of
aircraft. Check their websites e.g. FullFab and Erect-a-Tube.
Jack
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| Subject: | Hangar question - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Michael,
I'm an architect, not a structural engineer, but a couple of things to
consider: First, it depends a lot on location. If you are in earthquake or
wind country, it would be important to have a structural engineer have a
look. A hangar door wipes out most of the structure typically for almost the
entire wall, so the lateral load resistance of that wall is greatly reduced.
If the roof is supported by this wall, you may also have gravity load
problems.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael
Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Hangar question - Not RV related
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
As long as we are on the subject, any structural engineer types out =
there that could give me some off list advice? I am modifying the end =
wall of an existing steel building to accommodate a hanger door and want =
to run my plan by someone to make sure I won't have any problems.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Question - More Info |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
John D.Heath wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "John D.Heath" <altoq@cebridge.net>
>
>You might want to consider Spray-On Insulation like this link displays.
>http://www.spray-on.com/default1.asp
>
>John D.
>
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The spray-on cellulose stuff is wonderful in a well sealed, closed
building. Superb thermal and sound insulation. But for a hangar or shop
that has the potential to be open a lot & has the potential for water
entry, maybe not so good. If the roof leaks at all, big chunks fall off.
If any rodents find their way into the building, lots of little chunks
get pulled off. If birds get in the building, again lots of little
chunks come off. If you use it on the walls, varying size chunks come
off as you bump things into it.
Covering it with an interior wall/ceiling would solve the
bird/rodent/physical abuse issues, for significant added expense.
Covering it with hard walls/ceiling negates its really nice acoustic
properties (will still do a good job of blocking inside/outside transfer
of sounds).
Charlie
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| Subject: | wing walk anti-slip |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt@earthlink.net>
Has anyone ever tried to use 3M rocker panel spray rock chip guard like
this:
http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?6666660Zjcf6lVs6EVs66STLKCO
rrrrQ- for wing walk anti-slip? You'd have to use it between primer and top
coat, so it isn't something you can add after the plane is painted. This is
the same stuff that European cars have used for years on their rockers and
lower fenders for rock chip protection.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper 2" <mkellems@bellsouth.net>
> I bought one from Van's for the -4 and then got one for the -3 as well --
> they are perfect for traveling. Grey in color - fit exact and lightweight
> nylon (I think) with a carry bag total weight is about 3lbs. About $150 I
> believe. Mike Kellems
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
>
> I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with for my RV 4.
> Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
>
> Pat Long
> PGLong@aol.com
> N120PL
> RV4
> Bay City, Michigan
> 3CM
>
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| Subject: | wing walk anti-slip |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
We used urethane bed liner material from the body shop that was tintable to
any color. It can be color matched to any factory formula color. We actually
removed the old paint on aggregate type and messed the paint up underneath.
Then I masked off and scuffed the area, rolled on some bedliner and
walahhh....Was tough as nails and wasn't topcoated with paint to chip off.
Actually I used this stuff on the sillplates and on the canopy. Wherever
ther was going to be a fair amount of wear and tear....
steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Heinrich Gerhardt
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: RV-List: wing walk anti-slip
--> RV-List message posted by: "Heinrich Gerhardt" <hgerhardt@earthlink.net>
Has anyone ever tried to use 3M rocker panel spray rock chip guard like
this:
http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?6666660Zjcf6lVs6EVs66STLKCO
rrrrQ- for wing walk anti-slip? You'd have to use it between primer and top
coat, so it isn't something you can add after the plane is painted. This is
the same stuff that European cars have used for years on their rockers and
lower fenders for rock chip protection.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I also have Van's cover on the RV-8. I consider it perfect for the
occasional use during overnight trips.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chopper 2 [mailto:mkellems@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:54 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy cover
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper 2" <mkellems@bellsouth.net>
>
> > I bought one from Van's for the -4 and then got one for the
> -3 as well
> > -- they are perfect for traveling. Grey in color - fit exact and
> > lightweight nylon (I think) with a carry bag total weight is about
> > 3lbs. About $150 I believe. Mike Kellems
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
> >
> > I want to get a light weight canopy cover to travel with
> for my RV 4.
> > Anyone have a favorite one that they would recommend?
> >
> > Pat Long
> > PGLong@aol.com
> > N120PL
> > RV4
> > Bay City, Michigan
> > 3CM
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| Subject: | Re: wing walk anti-slip |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 05/18/2006 8:34:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
hgerhardt@earthlink.net writes:
wing walk anti-slip?
Just as a suggestion, here's what I did on my plane and it has really worked
out nicely- 1 year and 4 months since application and it still looks & works
great-
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5276
Thanks, George- good tip!
>From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List:make ur cover |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
You built an air plane, why not sew one up yourself.
I made mine out of a car cover I bought.
light weight and than bought gas with the savings.
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