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1. 04:53 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Chuck Jensen)
2. 06:16 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Ed Anderson)
3. 06:20 AM - AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Donald Harker)
4. 06:38 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Ron Lee)
5. 07:18 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Gerry Filby)
6. 07:26 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (D.Bristol)
7. 07:34 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (JOHN STARN)
8. 07:51 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Chuck Jensen)
9. 08:00 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Wentz, Don)
10. 08:32 AM - Low-level river flying (Michael)
11. 08:32 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Ralph E. Capen)
12. 09:16 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Chris W)
13. 09:16 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Jeff Dowling)
14. 09:51 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (Walter Tondu)
15. 11:12 AM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (RVer273sb@aol.com)
16. 11:28 AM - Re: Re: Low RPM Harmful ? (Chuck Jensen)
17. 11:39 AM - Re: Who is this guy? (kitfoxmike)
18. 12:06 PM - Pre-Buy Inspection (Chuck Jensen)
19. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: Low RPM Harmful ? (Oliver Washburn)
20. 12:26 PM - Re: Low-level river flying (kitfoxmike)
21. 02:40 PM - Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
22. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Konrad L. Werner)
23. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall (Terry Watson)
24. 06:46 PM - Engine life (Wheeler North)
25. 07:53 PM - Alaskan flight (Charles Kaluza)
26. 08:11 PM - Re: Low-level river flying (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
27. 08:42 PM - Re: Who is this guy? (JAMES BOWEN)
28. 09:15 PM - Re: Re: Low-level river flying (Tom Gummo)
29. 10:10 PM - epanelbuilder (sarg314)
30. 11:33 PM - Re: Re: Low-level river flying (Paul Besing)
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| Subject: | Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Bert,
The video streaming is probably too fast for your computer....it's time
to update that TRASH-80 computer.
Chuck Jensen
Just kidding, but anyone that knows what a TRASH-80 computer is probably
someone that is starting to keep a close eye on their medical.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Bert,
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> The video streaming is probably too fast for your computer....it's time
> to update that TRASH-80 computer.
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> Chuck Jensen
> Just kidding, but anyone that knows what a TRASH-80 computer is probably
> someone that is starting to keep a close eye on their medical.
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> Do Not Archive
Boy, you know how to hurt a fellow, Chuck. It is interesting to think of
how far the "Personal Computer" has come since the "TRASH-80" - any
remaining are probably in museums {:>).
Ed
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| Subject: | AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Harker" <dpharker@worldnet.att.net>
Working on my 7A fuselage and have the AFP BP/Filter installed per plans.
Seems like too much plumbing inside the cockpit to me. Thinking of placing
the pump and filter on the front of the firewall. Anybody done this or have
a suggested location? Thanks
Don Harker
Gurnee IL
7A fuselage
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| Subject: | Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Bert,
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>The video streaming is probably too fast for your computer....it's time
>to update that TRASH-80 computer.
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>Chuck Jensen
>Just kidding, but anyone that knows what a TRASH-80 computer is probably
>someone that is starting to keep a close eye on their medical.
Chuck, that is among the most insensitive remarks I have ever seen anywhere.
You are probably anti-"dial-up" as well. That is what I have and it took quite
a while to see the whole thing. A few seconds of video would download, then
play, stop while a few more seconds downloaded and so on. I just left and did
yard work and came back later to see the whole thing.
Do not archive because I am kidding too. Dial-up is not optimal for
large files.
Ron Lee
PS, I don't have a cell phone either :)
Now where is a narrow gorge that I can fly through to top the river video?
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
All the instructions I've seen from AFP say DON'T put it on the
hot side of the firewall. I think heat is the major issue. If
you do put it on the firewall side you will need to install a
shield around it and cool it with a blast tube.
g
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> Thinking of placing
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> Gurnee IL
> 7A fuselage
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
Mine is in the lower right corner of the firewall. I put a cover over
the top of it and installed a blast tube just in case. It fit very
nicely behind the landing gear (-6). I've never had a problem with it
and it's easy to service the filter.
Dave
Donald Harker wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Harker" <dpharker@worldnet.att.net>
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>Working on my 7A fuselage and have the AFP BP/Filter installed per plans.
>Seems like too much plumbing inside the cockpit to me. Thinking of placing
>the pump and filter on the front of the firewall. Anybody done this or have
>a suggested location? Thanks
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>Don Harker
>Gurnee IL
>7A fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
What's a "cell phone".
Is that where ya'll get one phone call fo they put ya in it?.
Do Not Archive KABONG 8*)
The video streaming is probably too fast for your computer....it's time
to update that TRASH-80 computer.
You are probably anti-"dial-up" as well. That is what I have and it took >
PS, I don't have a cell phone either :)
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| Subject: | Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
I have one of them thar new cell phone thingys you be talkin' bout. The
biggest difference between that new phone and the two-cans-and-a-string
it replaced is I now get a lot more dropped calls...the reception is
about the same.
Chuck Jensen
GNOBAK
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:34 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Who is this guy?
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
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> What's a "cell phone".
> Is that where ya'll get one phone call fo they put ya in it?.
> Do Not Archive KABONG 8*)
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| Subject: | AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
I initially had my AFP boost pump and filter forward of the firewall and
had nothing but problems with hot fuel.
After the -7 came out with the pump and filter location near the fuel
selector, I moved mine there and it has worked much better, no more
dead-stick landings due to hot fuel. Kind of a nice thing ;-).
A carefully constructed sealed box with plenty of cool air should work,
assuming you're able to fit it in without restricting access to other
areas under the cowl.
Dw
RV-6 925hrs
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald Harker
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall
--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Harker"
--> <dpharker@worldnet.att.net>
Working on my 7A fuselage and have the AFP BP/Filter installed per
plans.
Seems like too much plumbing inside the cockpit to me. Thinking of
placing the pump and filter on the front of the firewall. Anybody done
this or have a suggested location? Thanks
Don Harker
Gurnee IL
7A fuselage
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| Subject: | Low-level river flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
Oh, my. Just some observations from an "old salt":
First of all: cool video. I may have had less head and more scenery going
by, but that's just me. Who and where: probably Washington state somewhere;
Husky hat and the area/weather. Doubt seriously Rio Grand. That's just the
song, "Tree Top Flyer". Written and sung here by Stephen Stills of CSN/Y
fame. About running drugs. Doesn't matter who the pilot is but he seems to
know his skills and airplane. He is flying here near the edge of his
envelope. The RV-4 looks older from what I can see.
Flying points: low level flight is very cool but your situational awareness
needs to be WAY up. At 160 kts things happen in a big hurry; there is not
much room for error. High G turns low down can make for a difficult day if
things don't go right. This pilot obviously has done this before and on this
stretch of river before, I would imagine. Some of his turns were a bit more
than 45 degrees; they had to be to get around stuff. You have to be familiar
with low-level flight to begin with. Things change quickly when you're in
the slot. A slight breeze coming off a ridge is not a bid deal if you have
more than 50 feet to play with but can make you go where you hadn't planned
if you are in the river bottom.
I learned to fly from a pipeline patrol pilot so most of my early hours were
50 to 100 fee off the ground. In a Cub, not fast flying RV. Low level flying
takes PRACTICE, as does everything else done in an airplane. This pilot
seems to be familiar with low-level. His military hair cut may or may not be
a give-away. Problems with low-level: there are rules against flying close
to people or people-made objects; to practice, you have to fly low-level but
you can get progressively lower as you get better. Things still happen
quickly.
Newbie's: don't try this at home. River running has several problems and
most of them are power lines. Not to mention trees and ridges. And radio
stations love to put antennas in river bottoms. You occasionally meet
another airplane coming the other way. Ask me how I know. If you have a
low-level route, you need to be familiar with it and know it from altitude
FIRST before going down on the deck. Find a flat area way out somewhere
with no obstructions or people. Fly it at altitude first. Did I mention
that? And you won't see the power lines until it is just a little too late
if you are down low and coming on them quickly. Or even slowly. And
sometimes you have to go under them to get past them. Another story. The
lines are difficult to see; you look for the power poles: they are much
easier to see. The roll in the video for his turn around: low level
aerobatics can end poorly. Don't split-S out of a roll: there isn't enough
room to recover down low.
Know your airplane. Know your area. Maintain HIGH situational awareness.
(This pilot even gets momentarily distracted before making his return run.)
Know your own limitations. Don't show off; it isn't necessary in an
airplane. Don't do this the first time with someone in the back seat. (Hey:
I saw this cool video: let's go fly the river!) Watch for power poles. You
can go under a power line if there is no where else to be but you should
have done that under controlled conditions the first time, too, and
shouldn't be in the situation that calls for that in the first place.
This reminds me of watching a snow boarding video and thinking how easy that
looks, then trying it yourself. Ouch.
Be careful out there.
IMHO, YMMV
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
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| Subject: | AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I ordered the -7 boost pump/filter mount for my -6A - I like the way it finishes
up.....much better than finding a place myself......
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
>Sent: May 24, 2006 10:58 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall
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>--> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
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>I initially had my AFP boost pump and filter forward of the firewall and
>had nothing but problems with hot fuel.
>
>After the -7 came out with the pump and filter location near the fuel
>selector, I moved mine there and it has worked much better, no more
>dead-stick landings due to hot fuel. Kind of a nice thing ;-).
>
>A carefully constructed sealed box with plenty of cool air should work,
>assuming you're able to fit it in without restricting access to other
>areas under the cowl.
>Dw
>RV-6 925hrs
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald Harker
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:20 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall
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>--> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Harker"
>--> <dpharker@worldnet.att.net>
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>Working on my 7A fuselage and have the AFP BP/Filter installed per
>plans.
>Seems like too much plumbing inside the cockpit to me. Thinking of
>placing the pump and filter on the front of the firewall. Anybody done
>this or have a suggested location? Thanks
>
>Don Harker
>Gurnee IL
>7A fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
JAMES BOWEN wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
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>Bert, here is the link that I had to the treetop flyer. Just klick on the
>link and it should play.
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>http://www.experimentalpilots.com/anrr.wmv
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That link gives a file not found error, I saw the video from the other
link but you can't download the file and save it from that other page.
Does anyone have copy of the video I can put on my computer? You never
know when that other site will go down and the video will be gone for good.
do not archive
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Chris W
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I modified my 6 to put this where the plans state and it really is no
problem.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
265 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
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> All the instructions I've seen from AFP say DON'T put it on the
> hot side of the firewall. I think heat is the major issue. If
> you do put it on the firewall side you will need to install a
> shield around it and cool it with a blast tube.
>
> g
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>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Donald Harker"
>> <dpharker@worldnet.att.net>
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>> Working on my 7A fuselage and have the AFP BP/Filter installed
>> per plans.
>> Seems like too much plumbing inside the cockpit to me.
>> Thinking of placing
>> the pump and filter on the front of the firewall. Anybody done
>> this or have
>> a suggested location? Thanks
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>> Don Harker
>> Gurnee IL
>> 7A fuselage
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> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 05/24 11:14, Chris W wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
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> JAMES BOWEN wrote:
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> >--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
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> >Bert, here is the link that I had to the treetop flyer. Just klick on the
> >link and it should play.
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> >http://www.experimentalpilots.com/anrr.wmv
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> That link gives a file not found error, I saw the video from the other
> link but you can't download the file and save it from that other page.
> Does anyone have copy of the video I can put on my computer? You never
> know when that other site will go down and the video will be gone for good.
http://rv7-a.com/videos.htm
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
Flying!
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
I have my AFP fuel pump on the front of the firewall
on my RV-4. 6 years and 1450 hrs later I have not
had a single problem. The filter is in the tunnel.
Pump is mounted to a plate that is adel clamped
to the engine mount lower tubes. I have a 1in scat
tube to it for cooling.
Stewart, RV-4
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| Subject: | Re: Low RPM Harmful ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Any Technical Counselor or other qualified individual in the Florida
area that would be interested in doing a pre-buy inspection of an RV?
Contact me off line if you would.
Thanks,
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
I'm going to try and do a post to everybody here. First, what's wrong with a 45
25ft off the ground, I've done them many of times in the Fox. Haven't done one
in the rv because I ain't flying one, but I think that could be doable also
with a lot of practice. Flying in this video is very doable without military
training, u just need to fly over the area first at a higher altitude and get
use to the terrain and then fly lower and lower until you know it like the back
of your hand. As far as the computer, I've own so many that I finally have
a nice high speed, the hook up, once you experience the dsl you will never know
how you got along with dial up. The cell phone, I hate it, but I found out
a long time ago, if you don't have one on a road test(auto repair) the vehicle
that you have will break down on ya and you have to walk back to the shop.
Most the time I turn mine off. After all if you do get a call it's generally
a bad call and depressing, so I don't let that happen. It's mainly for calling
out on.
Lastely, in the northwest there is a river that is called the spokane river and
runs up to lake roosevelt, fort spokane. This is a cool gorge with river, the
flight at 20 ft. off the water is just breathtaking.
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kitfoxmike
kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36252#36252
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| Subject: | Pre-Buy Inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
I changed the title to a more appropriate hook....and now, my question:
Any Technical Counselor or other qualified individual in the Florida
area interested in doing a pre-buy inspection of an RV? Contact me off
line if you would.
Thanks,
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Low RPM Harmful ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
Check http://eaa1236.loveslanding.com/
One of them might.
Ollie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Low RPM Harmful ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
>
> Any Technical Counselor or other qualified individual in the Florida
> area that would be interested in doing a pre-buy inspection of an RV?
> Contact me off line if you would.
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> Thanks,
> Chuck Jensen
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Low-level river flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
very good info. To add just a bit, I would suggest doing a mountain flying seminar.
Golden rule when doing this kind of flying is slow down, way down, your
turn radius is shorted on slow flight and raised as you go faster, hence the
statement low and slow. flying low opens up a new world. I myself call anything
over 1000agl nose bleed altitude. One last note, I will not go down close
to the ground if there is turbulance below 1000 ft agl and if the winds are up
any. Also if you are the person that has to watch your guages when landing,
think again, you don't know your airplane. When you can land without any help
from the guages and rely on your own insticts than you can give it a try. Generally
this is called flying out the window.
--------
kitfoxmike
kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36259#36259
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I can relate to the desire to avoid all the plumbing. Rather than do all
the aluminum tube bending, I used various AN fittings (Earls Performance
or similar) for the AFP pump (on the cool side of the firewall) to make the
turns along with an appropriate flexible hose. Ok, the cost of the
fittings did add up. It was easy to put together after that though, and I
avoided prolonged bouts of cussing that I am prone to.
Something to consider anyway
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
You cuss too ???
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com=20
To: rv-list@matronics.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall
--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I can relate to the desire to avoid all the plumbing. Rather than do =
all
the aluminum tube bending, I used various AN fittings (Earls =
Performance
or similar) for the AFP pump (on the cool side of the firewall) to =
make the
turns along with an appropriate flexible hose. Ok, the cost of the
fittings did add up. It was easy to put together after that though, =
and I
avoided prolonged bouts of cussing that I am prone to.
Something to consider anyway
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Re: AFP Booster Pump and Filter on Firewall |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
About using AN fittings in the fuel system, I ran across this note in the
Airflow Performance installation manual:
Apendix A, page A-20, Rev. A. photo:
"Care must be taken to avoid the use of 90 degree fittings on the suction
side of the fuel pump on high horse power applications. The more correct way
would be to use a straight bulkhead fitting and a full flow 90 degree hose
end to eliminate flow pressure drop."
A retired mechanical engineer friend told me that way back when he was in
school, his hydraulics instructor told him that three elbows is equal to a
plug. It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the idea was that elbows
reduce flow in a way that bent tubing does not. Of course it will all depend
on tubing size, horsepower, and a few other considerations, but this is why
I went through a lot of tubing to get the bends right for the fuel valve and
boost pump. I also used a wing root mounted Andair gascolator with my AFP
system, which probably wasn't a good idea in hindsight. I did talk to AFP
about it and he thought it was a wasted effort, but acceptable.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Baffles finished!
--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I can relate to the desire to avoid all the plumbing. Rather than do all
the aluminum tube bending, I used various AN fittings (Earls Performance
or similar) for the AFP pump (on the cool side of the firewall) to make the
turns along with an appropriate flexible hose. Ok, the cost of the
fittings did add up. It was easy to put together after that though, and I
avoided prolonged bouts of cussing that I am prone to.
Something to consider anyway
Erich Weaver
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
Excessive RPM or Pressure will catastrophically destroy any engine
eventually. But if you had to choose one over the other I would go for RPM
to get HP as that causes more cooling for the HP gained.
That said most Lycs and Continentals are rated for continuous HP at what's
listed in the TC. But there's no requirement or correlation to that power
setting and the suggested TBO.
Generally TBOs are based upon an average of 75% power with variations in RPM
throughout the testing. That doesn't mean the engine can't operate
continuously at max power, it just means that if you do this it probably
won't make TBO.
That said, changing the oil a lot and flying a lot are the two best things
you can do for your engine life as both remove or prevent moisture. Moisture
causes micro pits which does the most of anything to wear out your engine.
And that is straight out of about nine different aviation engine
manufacturer and aviation oil manufacturer reps mouths over the years.
So, go fly further or more often at 75% power for the same cost as flying
less at 100% power and have more fun making sure your engine doesn't wear
out.
It's kinda like a sale, spend money to save money....
;{)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Kaluza" <charleskaluza@verizon.net>
My wife and I are planning a trip to Alaska in our RV 6A, from Portland =
OR, for the last two weeks of June.
Anyone interested in teaming up for the flight?
Any advice?
I found the Alaska Logbook to be a good read.
Do not archive
Thanks
Charlie Kaluza
charleskaluza@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Low-level river flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
One more point to consider about power lines. They are "Structures" so
legally you have to be 500 feet from them.
I love the low flying and as a Highway Patrol Pilot in the California pilot
I have done a lot of it. As stated above - you can go under the power lines
, BUT learn under the high part of the span . > I didn't say that !!!
Bob Olds
RV-4 , N1191X
Charleston, Arkansas
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| Subject: | Re: Who is this guy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
Sorry about that. I tried the link right before I added it to the email I
sent it with. It was ok at that time. Your right, now it's gone.
Jim Bowen
>From: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Who is this guy?
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:49:19 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
>
>On 05/24 11:14, Chris W wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net>
> >
> > JAMES BOWEN wrote:
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > >Bert, here is the link that I had to the treetop flyer. Just klick on
>the
> > >link and it should play.
> > >
> > >http://www.experimentalpilots.com/anrr.wmv
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That link gives a file not found error, I saw the video from the other
> > link but you can't download the file and save it from that other page.
> > Does anyone have copy of the video I can put on my computer? You never
> > know when that other site will go down and the video will be gone for
>good.
>
>http://rv7-a.com/videos.htm
>
>--
>Walter Tondu
>http://www.rv7-a.com
>Flying!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low-level river flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
I hate too but I have to disagree but slow is not the way to decrease your
turn radius. As an Air to Air and Air to Ground Instructor (F-4G) in the
military, there is a magic speed for turning your aircraft. We called it
"corner velocity" or Va (I am not very good with V speeds in the military we
used names for the various speeds). It is the min speed that you can pull
the max G. Therefore, as you increase your speed from the stall speed
toward the Va speed several things happen: your available G INCREASES, your
rate of turn (degrees/sec) INCREASES, your stall margin INCREASES and your
turn radius DECREASES. Now this only works if you use ALL the AVAILABLE G.
Here is where AOA indicator helps alot. For my plane with a 60 Knot
Indicated Stall speed (no flap at gross weight),
my corner velocity is 147 knots indicated at 6 G's. (NOTE: all speeds are
indicated, not true)
I have equations and tables but my email program won't put them into a
message for the RV-List.
So email me directly and I will send you a word doc attachment with the
info.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1573
USAF, Major Retired
F-4G Instructor Pilot
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
t.gummo@verizon.net
> very good info. To add just a bit, I would suggest doing a mountain
> flying seminar. Golden rule when doing this kind of flying is slow down,
> way down, your turn radius is shorted on slow flight and raised as you go
> faster, hence the statement low and slow. flying low opens up a new
> world. I myself call anything over 1000agl nose bleed altitude. One last
> note, I will not go down close to the ground if there is turbulance below
> 1000 ft agl and if the winds are up any. Also if you are the person that
> has to watch your guages when landing, think again, you don't know your
> airplane. When you can land without any help from the guages and rely on
> your own insticts than you can give it a try. Generally this is called
> flying out the window.
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
> kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
> http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
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--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I have been using Panel Planner and have not been happy with it. It has
a lot of trouble with drawing text strings correctly and in the right
place. It probably reflects my particular experience with computer cad
software, but I also don't much like the user interface either.
epanelbuilder looks interesting since it claims to be cross paltform
compatible: I could use it with my Linux system and could thus stop
using the acursed Windows, as panel planner is the only thing I ever use
Windows for anyway.
So.... Can any one advise me if epanelplanner actually works? Is it
quirky? Can I get a useful output form from it (like autocad or some
such)? Can I get printouts of x-y coordinates of things? Does it mangle
text?
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Low-level river flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Good point, Gummi...also we need to think about load
factor and stall speed...60 degree bank = 2 X Load
Factor = raised stall speed.
So, if someone were to be flying the slow envelope as
previously mentioned, then yanked a 60 degree turn,
there could be a surprise..low altitude, turning
stall, steep bank, no thanks...I'll take the speed.
Helicopters we don't have to worry about this
though...nanananananana...
Paul Besing
--- Tom Gummo <T.gummo@verizon.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo"
> <T.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> I hate too but I have to disagree but slow is not
> the way to decrease your
> turn radius. As an Air to Air and Air to Ground
> Instructor (F-4G) in the
> military, there is a magic speed for turning your
> aircraft. We called it
> "corner velocity" or Va (I am not very good with V
> speeds in the military we
> used names for the various speeds). It is the min
> speed that you can pull
> the max G. Therefore, as you increase your speed
> from the stall speed
> toward the Va speed several things happen: your
> available G INCREASES, your
> rate of turn (degrees/sec) INCREASES, your stall
> margin INCREASES and your
> turn radius DECREASES. Now this only works if you
> use ALL the AVAILABLE G.
> Here is where AOA indicator helps alot. For my
> plane with a 60 Knot
> Indicated Stall speed (no flap at gross weight),
> my corner velocity is 147 knots indicated at 6 G's.
> (NOTE: all speeds are
> indicated, not true)
>
> I have equations and tables but my email program
> won't put them into a
> message for the RV-List.
> So email me directly and I will send you a word doc
> attachment with the
> info.
>
> Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
> Wild Weasel #1573
> USAF, Major Retired
> F-4G Instructor Pilot
> Apple Valley, CA
> Harmon Rocket-II
>
> do not archive
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
> t.gummo@verizon.net
>
>
> > very good info. To add just a bit, I would
> suggest doing a mountain
> > flying seminar. Golden rule when doing this kind
> of flying is slow down,
> > way down, your turn radius is shorted on slow
> flight and raised as you go
> > faster, hence the statement low and slow. flying
> low opens up a new
> > world. I myself call anything over 1000agl nose
> bleed altitude. One last
> > note, I will not go down close to the ground if
> there is turbulance below
> > 1000 ft agl and if the winds are up any. Also if
> you are the person that
> > has to watch your guages when landing, think
> again, you don't know your
> > airplane. When you can land without any help from
> the guages and rely on
> > your own insticts than you can give it a try.
> Generally this is called
> > flying out the window.
> >
> > --------
> > kitfoxmike
> > kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster
> > http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike
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