Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:42 AM - Re: Burnt out MAC indicator? (Mickey Coggins)
2. 04:44 AM - More on brakes (lowell lemay)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: More on brakes (Darrell Reiley)
4. 07:30 AM - reno air races... (Bill VonDane)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: reno air races... (dsvs@comcast.net)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: More on brakes (Jerry Grimmonpre)
7. 07:53 AM - Re: More on brakes (Mickey Coggins)
8. 08:26 AM - Seat belt anchor hardware (Patrick Kelley)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: reno air races... (Tim Bryan)
10. 09:05 AM - Re: reno air races... (Skylor Piper)
11. 09:11 AM - wing to fuse fairing (Tim Bryan)
12. 09:54 AM - Motor mount question ()
13. 09:56 AM - Re: reno air races... (dsvs@comcast.net)
14. 10:00 AM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (dsvs@comcast.net)
15. 10:46 AM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (Steve Allison)
16. 10:51 AM - choices (Jim Pleasants)
17. 10:52 AM - Re: reno air races... (Dan Beadle)
18. 11:17 AM - Re: choices (Sam Buchanan)
19. 11:36 AM - Re: choices (Walter Tondu)
20. 12:13 PM - Re: choices (SteinAir, Inc.)
21. 12:28 PM - Re: Bagage compartment balast (Jeff Dowling)
22. 01:32 PM - Re: Hanging my IO-320 - lower mount spacer (bertrv6@highstream.net)
23. 03:13 PM - 0-320 H2AD For Sale (J. R. Dial)
24. 03:17 PM - Re: reno air races... (Tim Bryan)
25. 03:18 PM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (Tim Bryan)
26. 04:36 PM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (William Gill)
27. 09:31 PM - Re: reno air races... (BRUCE GRAY)
28. 11:34 PM - Official RV-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
29. 11:35 PM - Official RV-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Burnt out MAC indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Greg@itmack wrote:
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> Mickey, I've ordered the GRT EFIS and have been reading the manuals but see
> no reference to trim inputs. Where are they mentioned? BTW I'm not using
> the EIS if that is where it goes.
The GRT guys seem to be a bit behind on their website updates,
and documentation updates. I learned about this on the
GRT_EFIS yahoo group. Here's a picture of the trim indicators
on the screen from Mike Schipper's website:
http://www.my9a.com/finish15.asp (it's about two screens down)
Mike drew a nice wiring diagram, but I couldn't find it
on his site. I uploaded it here:
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9839/grtefistrimwiring1zj.jpg
The Yahoo group is good - check it out!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GRT_EFIS/
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "lowell lemay" <llemay1@austin.rr.com>
DAMNNN..............Really appreciate the comments on Brake Drag Fix, =
but really sorry I started such a hassle of hurt feelings. Guess I'll =
go back to "Van's Air Force"..........llemay1@austin.rr.com WABOAH =
Please......no archive
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| Subject: | Re: More on brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Lowell,
You did nothing to be sorry about! You have a few that want to shoot down others
options everytime they post. They just seem to know it all. It gets old really
quick and my opinion (hope they don't shoot this one down) is that my posts
should be read in full and respected as an opinion just the same way the know
it all wants their post read and respected. People on the list get upset with
me about some of my post but in the end I find they really didn't read in full
and understand my post. The information on the brakes was good information
and it DID fix an RV7A's dragging and stiff brake issue.
Live and let live... Sorry if I've offended anyone.
Darrell
lowell lemay <llemay1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "lowell lemay"
DAMNNN..............Really appreciate the comments on Brake Drag Fix, =
but really sorry I started such a hassle of hurt feelings. Guess I'll =
go back to "Van's Air Force"..........llemay1@austin.rr.com WABOAH =
Please......no archive
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Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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| Subject: | reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
For those of you who have flown to Reno for the air races... Where is =
the best places to fly into and stay?
Thanks!
-Bill
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
Bill,
My vote would be Lake Tahoe. Don
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From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
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| Subject: | Re: More on brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Lowell ...
I too appreciate all contributions of information, tips, hints and
everything that makes these little RV's a better airplane to fly. We are
very lucky to have an affordable airplane to get our
flight fix satisfied while having the freedom to call the airplane our
creation. All builders/flyers place value on any tip that makes life
easier, safer and affordable. The term "I built it in my garage" really
translates to ... "Me and my 100's of RV'er friends built it in my garage by
solving assembly problems".
Continue offering up your good ideas. Those able to use them, as their own
solutions, will see the value of what you express. None of us has the trump
card on any builder's idea.
Keep on smashing those rivets and squeezing terminals ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A Electrical
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: More on brakes
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
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> others options everytime they post. They just seem to know it all. It gets
> old really quick and my opinion (hope they don't shoot this one down) is
> that my posts should be read in full and respected as an opinion just the
> same way the know it all wants their post read and respected. People on
> the list get upset with me about some of my post but in the end I find
> they really didn't read in full and understand my post. The information on
> the brakes was good information and it DID fix an RV7A's dragging and
> stiff brake issue.
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> Live and let live... Sorry if I've offended anyone.
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> Darrell
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> lowell lemay <llemay1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lowell lemay"
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> DAMNNN..............Really appreciate the comments on Brake Drag Fix, =
> but really sorry I started such a hassle of hurt feelings. Guess I'll =
> go back to "Van's Air Force"..........llemay1@austin.rr.com WABOAH =
> Please......no archive
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| Subject: | Re: More on brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> ... People on the list get upset with me about some of my
> post but in the end I find they really didn't read in full and
> understand my post. The information on the brakes was good
> information and it DID fix an RV7A's dragging and stiff brake issue.
I read an article recently that showed the results of some
research on E-mail communication. It said that over 50%
of the E-mail sent is not correctly understood by the
recipient.
One if the main issues is that so much of human
communication is non-verbal (tone, body language, etc)
and none of that comes through with E-mail.
I think if we all keep this in mind when we are reading
and writing E-mail, we can try to get this percentage
up a little bit.
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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| Subject: | Seat belt anchor hardware |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
Ok, I seem to be suffering from a slight vision problem (don't tell my AME).
I can't find a callout for the hardware to attach the seat belt anchor cable
to the seat belt anchors in the rear of the fuselage. No bolts were in the
bag with the cables and I don't have any AN-4 bolts left that would work
there. Oops, forgot to say it's for an RV-6A. Anyone know where the
callout is in the plans? And what bag the hardware was supplied in? Many
thanks.
Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - cabin interior progressing
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Lake Taho would be quite a drive woudn't it? Unless you are talking abo=
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Minden/Taho airport just south of Carson City. Then you are about an hou=
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drive away. What is wrong with Reno or Stead? Stead is where the air ra=
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are, so if you arrive after the event starts, you would be better off at
Reno.=0D
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Subject: Re: RV-List: reno air races...=0D
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My vote would be Lake Tahoe. Don=0D
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Bill,
Last year I flew up for the races with my father in
his A-36, and we are doing it again this year. We
flew into Carson City, and we stayed in Reno. We
found that Carson City had better fuel prices and
tiedown rates than Truckee. Tahoe is a bit far of a
drive from Reno, if you're going to the air races for
3 or 4 day.
Skylor
RV-8QB
Under Construction
--- Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane"
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| Subject: | wing to fuse fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
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Ok, I have a question about drilling holes in my wing tanks. I am mount=
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my -6 wings to my fuse and it seems I am to drill holes in the tank flang=
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together that fitting a platenut between them will be tight. Plus there =
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concerned? I hear the pre drilled airplanes had them already there. Gue=
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I should have thought about that when I built the tanks.=0D
Tim=0D
RV-6 (ancient kit) N616TB=0D
Plan to fly in about 4-6 weeks
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| Subject: | Motor mount question |
--> RV-List message posted by: <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Listers,
Has anyone tried the motor mounts sold by Wicks Aircraft (page 74 of the current
catalog)? Part number is EM100-005. I'm wondering if you are happy with them?
Charlie Kuss
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
Getting in and out of Reno or stead requires a reservation even before and after
the race. Tahoe is a longer drive, but, I think it is worth it. Don
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
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| Subject: | Re: wing to fuse fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
Even the3 predrilled kits come without these holes . As long as you stay away
from the rib you will be fine. Make sure that you push the fairing tight to the
fuse before drilling. don
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From: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
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| Subject: | Re: wing to fuse fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org>
Tim Bryan wrote:
> Ok, I have a question about drilling holes in my wing tanks. I am mounting
> my -6 wings to my fuse and it seems I am to drill holes in the tank flange
> then mount some plate nuts there. The existing rivets are close enough
> together that fitting a platenut between them will be tight. Plus there is
> some squished out pro seal to make a non flat surface for mounting.
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> Drilling holes in my tanks even in the flange makes me cringe. Should I be
> concerned? I hear the pre drilled airplanes had them already there. Guess
> I should have thought about that when I built the tanks.
Tim,
The nut plates used to mount the wing fairing to the tank go through the
tank skin overhang, not the tank skin/rib flange joint. (The overhang
extends 1/2" inboard of the tank skin/rib flange joint.) Trim the
extruded proseal off the skin overhang with a razor blade and
scotchbrite wherever a nut plate will be installed.
Yea, this is one of those places where holes are at or slightly below
minimum edge distance...........but, they only hold the wing fairing in
place. Measure carefully before drilling.
My early pre-punched wing skins came without these holes. Turned out to
be OK, since my wing fairings were not pre-punched. (Ended up making my
own fairings anyway.) The usual match drill process worked fine:
1) drill pilot holes in the fairing.
2) mark a line on the tank skin overhang and the wing root rib (aft of
the spar).
3) line parts up, tape in place, match drill.
Steve
RV-6A extreme slow build........
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Pleasants" <jpleasants@bellsouth.net>
Listers:
I'm to the point where I need to make some choices as regards
autopilots.
The advertisements for TruTrak and Trio each "speak highly of
themselves". I can't get a clue as to which of these would be, for me, the
best choice.
I respectfully request that anyone who has a reason to recommend either
of these, or any other, please share with me their thoughts -- good, bad, or
indifferent.
I have the same quandry regarding glass cockpits -- do I choose Dynon,
AFS, GRT, BMT, Chelton, or some other?
All inputs will be appreciated.
Jim Pleasants
RV-7A QB N1QZ(reserved)
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| Subject: | reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <dan.beadle@inclinesoftworks.com>
I live in North Lake Tahoe. Drive to Stead is about 50 minutes. Add 25-30
more from South Lake Tahoe.
Drive from Truckee to Stead is also probably 50 minutes. Reno will have
lots of rooms available, cheap, but parking at RNO is tight during the air
races. MEV, TRK, TVL are all easy to get into during the races.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: reno air races...
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Lake Taho would be quite a drive woudn't it? Unless you are talking abo=
ut
Minden/Taho airport just south of Carson City. Then you are about an hou=
r
drive away. What is wrong with Reno or Stead? Stead is where the air ra=
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are, so if you arrive after the event starts, you would be better off at
Reno.=0D
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Subject: Re: RV-List: reno air races...=0D
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Jim Pleasants wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Pleasants" <jpleasants@bellsouth.net>
>
> Listers:
>
> I'm to the point where I need to make some choices as regards
> autopilots.
>
> The advertisements for TruTrak and Trio each "speak highly of
> themselves". I can't get a clue as to which of these would be, for me, the
> best choice.
>
> I respectfully request that anyone who has a reason to recommend either
> of these, or any other, please share with me their thoughts -- good, bad, or
> indifferent.
>
> I have the same quandry regarding glass cockpits -- do I choose Dynon,
> AFS, GRT, BMT, Chelton, or some other?
>
> All inputs will be appreciated.
>
> Jim Pleasants
> RV-7A QB N1QZ(reserved)
Jim, you are opening a can of worms about as messy as asking "which
primer do I use?"!!!
It would be most helpful if you would reply with the mission profile of
your plane. Whether or not you intend IFR ops, plan to install multiple
electrical systems, budget, etc, etc will have a huge bearing on how you
want to equip your plane. Also, your choice of EFIS will have a big
impact on which autopilot will best suit your needs.
You might also do some digging in the archives of this list. These
matters have been hashed to death during the past few years and you
might find a head start to your research.
I have experience with various autopilots and EFII but will withhold my
observations until we know more about how you intend to use your plane.
Fortunately, the new digital equipment as a general rule works very well
so it comes down mostly to what you like more than what will work.
Sam Buchanan
http://thervjournal.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 06/01 1:51, Jim Pleasants wrote:
> I'm to the point where I need to make some choices as regards
> autopilots.
>
> The advertisements for TruTrak and Trio each "speak highly of
> themselves". I can't get a clue as to which of these would be, for me, the
> best choice.
>
> I respectfully request that anyone who has a reason to recommend either
> of these, or any other, please share with me their thoughts -- good, bad, or
> indifferent.
>
> I have the same quandry regarding glass cockpits -- do I choose Dynon,
> AFS, GRT, BMT, Chelton, or some other?
>
> All inputs will be appreciated.
I have had zero regrets going with the GRT/TT combination. I have no
experience with the other options you mention.
I would make the same decision again.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
Flying!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "SteinAir, Inc." <stein@steinair.com>
Jim,
This is a discussion which simply can't be hashed out in an email...there is
far too many factors invloved - if you'd like give me a call off line and we
can discuss the various options out there and which one probably might fit
your overall needs the best. It truly depends on the plan of your flying
mission, instruments in the panel, radios/Avionics, EFIS's, your flight
rating (IFR/VFR), etc... It used to be pretty simple, but now it's quite
complex as there are a LOT of options regarding AP and EFIS combinations
along with functionality. I'm pretty familiar with both the Trio and
Trutrak, as well as all of the Glass options too.
Cheers,
Stein
RV6's, Minneapolis
do not archive
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Pleasants
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:52 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: choices
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Pleasants" <jpleasants@bellsouth.net>
>
>Listers:
>
> I'm to the point where I need to make some choices as regards
>autopilots.
>
> The advertisements for TruTrak and Trio each "speak highly of
>themselves". I can't get a clue as to which of these would be, for me, the
>best choice.
>
> I respectfully request that anyone who has a reason to recommend either
>of these, or any other, please share with me their thoughts --
>good, bad, or
>indifferent.
>
> I have the same quandry regarding glass cockpits -- do I choose Dynon,
>AFS, GRT, BMT, Chelton, or some other?
>
> All inputs will be appreciated.
>
>Jim Pleasants
>RV-7A QB N1QZ(reserved)
>
>
>--
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bagage compartment balast |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I bought 2 bags of 25 lb lead shot that works well.
shemp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Bagage compartment balast
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
>
>
>>>I fly my -4 with a 40lb bag of salt in the baggage
>>>compartment (sans passenger of course)...haven't
>>>noticed the speed difference, but it does fly
>>>better...I'll have to check that out.
>
> For what it's worth ...
> Please be careful and watch the bag of salt for tiny holes. These holes
> develop because of the bag being mishandled at the vendor's store. You
> may
> find corrosion starting from the very fine granules sifting through the
> tiny
> holes and working their way into aluminum joints. The fine granules are
> generated from the same mishandling that causes tiny holes.
> Jerry Grimmonpre'
> RV8A Electrical
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hanging my IO-320 - lower mount spacer |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> Has anyone else had this experience ?
>
> I hung my engine this weekend - but I think it needs to come
> off again. Vans supplies 2 large diameter AN7 washers in the
> engine mount bolt kit that are to shim the forward faces of the
> lower engine mounts off the engine so that the mount clears a
> "step" in the engine casing. The "step" is the mounting flange
> for the oil sump.
>
> All's well on the right lower mount, but on the lower left its
> as if the shim isn't thick enough, or more to the point, the
> flange on the engine protrudes too much. Consequence is that
> mount doesn't sit flush on the engine - its slightly at an
> angle with the top part of the mount making contact and the
> lower part interfering with the oil sump flange.
>
> Is this a common problem or am I breaking new ground here :) I
> guess the obvious solution is to pull the engine and grind off
> the flange on the oil sump mount. I'm more than a little
> hesitant about doing surgery on my engine.
>
> __g__ > ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Gerry: I am speaking for my own which was a Dynafocal, engine mount
for a Lycoming 0320ED2 Engine...for an rv6a... Now if you have same engine
mount, you should not have to file anything down. I would not do that.
The LOrd Mounts? should fit perfectly with the correct washers. If I recall
they were the same for all four sides...I might be wrong...
I mounteds the engine, all by myself, with no human help...Did not wanted
to wait...
I was able to do it, and it was done correctly..it was a question or
patience, and engine was move to match the Eng. mount...It can be done.
Any questions, you can call me .
Hope I gave you some food for thought....
Bert
rv6a
Flying\
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>
>
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| Subject: | 0-320 H2AD For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org>
This engine is on a flying RV-6A and is flying. The owner
has ordered an XP-360 with a Sensenich to do a firewall forward
replacement so all the firewall forward parts go with the 0-320. The
prop is a Hendrickson wood prop and in perfect condition. All baffles,
oil cooler, exhaust, hoses etc. are included with the engine. You can
see the engine run and fly and check it out yourself or have your
mechanic check it.
The new engine will be here in about a week so at that time
we will be removing this one from the plane.
Asking $12,000 for the package.
Jimmy Bennett
830-598-4221
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Oh yeah, I forgot about Carson city. It is on the north end of town so n=
ot
a bad drive at all. Good airport and they have a great EAA chapter there=
=2E=0D
Tim =0D
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Subject: Re: RV-List: reno air races...=0D
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Last year I flew up for the races with my father in=0D
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flew into Carson City, and we stayed in Reno. We=0D
found that Carson City had better fuel prices and=0D
tiedown rates than Truckee. Tahoe is a bit far of a=0D
drive from Reno, if you're going to the air races for=0D
3 or 4 day.=0D
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Skylor=0D
RV-8QB=0D
Under Construction=0D
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--- Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> wrote:=0D
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane"=0D
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| Subject: | Re: wing to fuse fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Thanks Don and Steve. Will proceed to get these drilled this weekend.=20
Flying is soon.=0D
=0D
Tim=0D
Do Not Archive =0D
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-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Steve Allison=0D
Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing=0D
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--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org>=0D
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Tim Bryan wrote:=0D
> Ok, I have a question about drilling holes in my wing tanks. I am
mounting=0D
> my -6 wings to my fuse and it seems I am to drill holes in the tank fla=
nge=0D
> then mount some plate nuts there. The existing rivets are close enough=
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> I should have thought about that when I built the tanks.=0D
=0D
Tim,=0D
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The nut plates used to mount the wing fairing to the tank go through the=0D
tank skin overhang, not the tank skin/rib flange joint. (The overhang=0D
extends 1/2" inboard of the tank skin/rib flange joint.) Trim the=0D
extruded proseal off the skin overhang with a razor blade and=0D
scotchbrite wherever a nut plate will be installed.=0D
=0D
Yea, this is one of those places where holes are at or slightly below=0D
minimum edge distance...........but, they only hold the wing fairing in=0D
place. Measure carefully before drilling.=0D
=0D
My early pre-punched wing skins came without these holes. Turned out to=0D
be OK, since my wing fairings were not pre-punched. (Ended up making my=0D
own fairings anyway.) The usual match drill process worked fine:=0D
1) drill pilot holes in the fairing.=0D
2) mark a line on the tank skin overhang and the wing root rib (aft of=0D
the spar).=0D
3) line parts up, tape in place, match drill.=0D
=0D
Steve=0D
RV-6A extreme slow build........=0D
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| Subject: | wing to fuse fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
Tim,
I'm working on this task now for an RV-7. I can send some pictures your
way if you're interested.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Thanks Don and Steve. Will proceed to get these drilled this
weekend.=20
Flying is soon.=0D
=0D
Tim=0D
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Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing=0D
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--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Allison <stevea@svpal.org>=0D
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> Ok, I have a question about drilling holes in my wing tanks. I am
mounting=0D
> my -6 wings to my fuse and it seems I am to drill holes in the tank
fla=
nge=0D
> then mount some plate nuts there. The existing rivets are close
enough=
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ther=
e
is=0D
> some squished out pro seal to make a non flat surface for mounting.=0D
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> Drilling holes in my tanks even in the flange makes me cringe. Should
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I
be=0D
> concerned? I hear the pre drilled airplanes had them already
there.=20
Guess=0D
> I should have thought about that when I built the tanks.=0D
=0D
Tim,=0D
=0D
The nut plates used to mount the wing fairing to the tank go through
the=0D
tank skin overhang, not the tank skin/rib flange joint. (The
overhang=0D
extends 1/2" inboard of the tank skin/rib flange joint.) Trim the=0D
extruded proseal off the skin overhang with a razor blade and=0D
scotchbrite wherever a nut plate will be installed.=0D
=0D
Yea, this is one of those places where holes are at or slightly below=0D
minimum edge distance...........but, they only hold the wing fairing
in=0D
place. Measure carefully before drilling.=0D
=0D
My early pre-punched wing skins came without these holes. Turned out
to=0D
be OK, since my wing fairings were not pre-punched. (Ended up making
my=0D
own fairings anyway.) The usual match drill process worked fine:=0D
1) drill pilot holes in the fairing.=0D
2) mark a line on the tank skin overhang and the wing root rib (aft
of=0D
the spar).=0D
3) line parts up, tape in place, match drill.=0D
=0D
Steve=0D
RV-6A extreme slow build........=0D
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| Subject: | reno air races... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BRUCE GRAY" <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
Bill,
You always have the option of flying into Reno/Tahoe International but you
do have to enter the traffic of heavy iron. Don't know if your comfortable
with that. A lot have used CXP-Carson City Airport and have used rental cars
for the couple days there here.
As well they have stayed local at the Pinion Plaza Hotel Resort. Hotel,
food, gaming and even a bowling alley all under the same roof.
During the Races it looks like a RV fly-in at the airport. Cool for us
builders to eyeball finished planes and gather ideas. Google the airport to
see what we've got. I haven't yet. Carson City is about 45 min's from Stead
Airport.
Take Care,
Bruce G.
RV8 Fuse
>From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: reno air races...
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:26:47 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>For those of you who have flown to Reno for the air races... Where is =
>the best places to fly into and stay?
>
>Thanks!
>-Bill
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Official RV-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete RV-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
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This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
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PLEASE READ. This document contains RV-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the RV-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the RV-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
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email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
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Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
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respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
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will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
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for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
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While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
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One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
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post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
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- Latest version of the RV-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* RV-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* RV-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* RV-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RV-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* RV-Archive.digest.complete.Z
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UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
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and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
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!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
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and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
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