---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/02/06: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:18 AM - AffOrdable medicine directly from manufacturer (Homer) 2. 11:14 AM - Front seat, back seat.... (Michael) 3. 03:01 PM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (Larry Bowles) 4. 03:37 PM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (Larry Bowles) 5. 06:07 PM - Skytech starter problem (Shirley Harding) 6. 07:23 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (linn Walters) 7. 07:57 PM - Re: wing to fuse fairing (Tim Bryan) 8. 08:27 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (Bobby Hester) 9. 08:32 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (Bob J.) 10. 08:35 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (Doug Gray) 11. 08:46 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (linn Walters) 12. 08:46 PM - Re: Skytech starter problem (linn Walters) 13. 11:28 PM - Langley Fly-in June 24 (Tedd McHenry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:26 AM PST US From: Homer Subject: RV-List: AffOrdable medicine directly from manufacturer --> RV-List message posted by: Homer AffOrdable medicine directly from manufacturer

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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:12 AM PST US From: "Michael" Subject: RV-List: Front seat, back seat.... --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael" >I assume you have heel cups or have never flown anyone who has flown >with them & then gotten into your back seat. OH, yes. I wouldn't curse anyone with a ride back there with their feet flat on the original floor. I have flown in the back of several -4s and, of course, found the heel cups a must-do. Mine are more heel PANS with lots of room for a whole foot, water bottle, whatever happens to be there at the time. ALSO: -4 builders: trim the FRONT seat "pleats" Down a little so they don't rub on legs and put an extra triangle of aluminum in the area just under the roll-over structure so knees don't get hung up in there. I have spent a good deal of time in the back seat of Suzie Q to make sure it is comfortable so my PIB (that's PRINCESS in back) is comfortable. She loves it back there. >WAY to much room in the front seat of an -8 ?. >You will then absolutely hate any Rocket 'cause it has lots more of the >same. No way I could hate a Rocket. Except my cheeks hurting from smiling so much. I'd figure out something. >Where do you put your arms in turbulence ?? I have an extended "shelf" that my left arm can rest on when on the throttle making for a very steady, sensitive hand there, much needed in formation flying and bouncing around flying. (Photo Share available on request.) I'm just wide enough to have to lean one way or another to be nestled against the sides of the -4 but find it secure rather than snug or tight. >But then again as one ages things can get difficult, like getting in & out of my LT-1 C-4. Age can do that!! >KABONG HRII N561FS aka RV-4 on steroids. BOTH exceptional airplanes!!! Michael RV-4 N232 Suzie Q ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:14 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowles" Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" Tim, I see you've already got your answer but just thought I'd throw this in. I know the 6's and 7's are different and this may have nothing to do with a 6. On my 7, the screws for the wing root fairing replaced existing rivets rather than fitting between rivets. Drilled out rivets, enlarged hole, drilled for plate nut rivets, ctsk. everything and rivet plate nut. Worked well. Larry Bowles 7A starting canopy work ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:41 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowles" Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" Sorry, ignore my post. I was full of ____ and thinking of the wing skins, not the tank skins. do not archive Larry B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowles" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" > > Tim, > replaced existing rivets rather than fitting between rivets. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:53 PM PST US From: "Shirley Harding" Subject: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter (supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? Shirley Harding Perth, Western Australia RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:42 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters Sounds like a gear mismatch to me, but you need to ask Les Staples directly at lstaples@itexas.net. Tell him Linn sent ya! Linn do not archive Shirley Harding wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" > >Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter >(supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring >gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, >observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and >installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage >smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old >heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one >else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? > > > >Shirley Harding > >Perth, Western Australia > >RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:16 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" No problem Larry. I understand.=0D =0D Tim=0D Do Not Archive =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Larry Bowles=0D Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing=0D =0D --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" =0D =0D Sorry, ignore my post. I was full of ____ and thinking of the wing skins,= =0D not the tank skins.=0D do not archive=0D Larry B.=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Larry Bowles" =0D Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:12 PM=0D Subject: Re: RV-List: wing to fuse fairing=0D =0D =0D > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowles" =0D >=0D > Tim,=0D =0D > replaced existing rivets rather than fitting between rivets.=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =20 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:14 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester Let us in on this! Who is Les and what company is he with? I hope to be starting my Skytech lightweight starter equipped XP-0360 in a few months. My new email address: bobbyhester@charter.net Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A N857BH SB wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-) linn Walters wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters > >Sounds like a gear mismatch to me, but you need to ask Les Staples >directly at lstaples@itexas.net. Tell him Linn sent ya! >Linn >do not archive >Shirley Harding wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" >> >>Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter >>(supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring >>gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, >>observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and >>installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage >>smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old >>heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one >>else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? >> >> >> >>Shirley Harding >> >>Perth, Western Australia >> >>RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:03 PM PST US From: "Bob J." Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob J." Shirley, a friend of mine recently had the same problem with his F1 Rocket (skytec starter). I loaned him the B&C starter off my F1. It meshed better with the ring gear it only went 1/8" or so deep into the ring gear when the bendix was engaged with the Skytec. The skytec starter wouldn't spin the motor over compression very well (stock compression), but the B&C spun it over no problem. When he called Skytec about his starter woes they initially tried to blame it on the battery, the cable, solenoid etc. but the conversation quickly changed direction once he told them he borrowed a B&C to replace the skytec and had no problems. They then offered a trade-in/upgrade+$$ on the new inline high-torque starter. The new starter works much better, and works as well as the B&C, if not maybe a little better. It also meshes with the ring gear fully, which the original skytec starter didn't. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On 6/2/06, Shirley Harding wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" < > ShirleyH@oceanbroadband.net> > > Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight > starter > (supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the > ring > gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, > observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and > installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage > smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old > heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one > else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? > > > Shirley Harding > > Perth, Western Australia > > RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem From: Doug Gray --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray Shirley, Is the damage to the back side of the ring gear teeth? If so this is typical of the starter remaining engaged after a start. Most likely cause is the back EMF from the PM motor itself continuing to hold the solenoid in. You will also hear a ringing sound from the ring gear (some irony here!) immediately after the key is released. If this is the case the fix is to electrically isolate the starter solenoid from the motor (a short link on the starter needs to be removed). Run a separate wire back to the key switch for the solenoid. As soon as the start switch is released then the start contactor (relay) and the starter solenoid will release allowing the gear to immediately disengage. There was an article in Rvator at some time. Doug Gray Sydney, Eastern Australia... RV-6 fuse nutplates!!! On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 09:03 +0800, Shirley Harding wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" > > Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter > (supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring > gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, > observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and > installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage > smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old > heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one > else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? > > > > Shirley Harding > > Perth, Western Australia > > RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:21 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters Bobby Hester wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > >Let us in on this! Who is Les > You don't know Les??? World famous SkyTec Guru and allaround nice guy. He's the best source for starter related info I know. > and what company is he with? > Well, SkyTec > I hope to be >starting my Skytech lightweight starter equipped XP-0360 in a few months. > Well, you're in for a treat. That starter is everything a prestolite isn't .... reliable, no bendix, and light weight. Ya can't go wrong. You'll have to get used to starting on the impulse mag (no problem if your key swithc has a start position) because the SkyTec spins an engine so fast that the std mag will fire. Yes, I have one and love it! Linn do not archive >My new email address: bobbyhester@charter.net >Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY >Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ >RV7A N857BH SB wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-) > > >linn Walters wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters >> >>Sounds like a gear mismatch to me, but you need to ask Les Staples >>directly at lstaples@itexas.net. Tell him Linn sent ya! >>Linn >>do not archive >>Shirley Harding wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" >>> >>>Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter >>>(supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring >>>gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, >>>observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and >>>installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage >>>smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old >>>heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one >>>else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? >>> >>> >>> >>>Shirley Harding >>> >>>Perth, Western Australia >>> >>>RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:21 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Skytech starter problem --> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters Bobby Hester wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > >Let us in on this! Who is Les > You don't know Les??? World famous SkyTec Guru and allaround nice guy. He's the best source for starter related info I know. > and what company is he with? > Well, SkyTec > I hope to be >starting my Skytech lightweight starter equipped XP-0360 in a few months. > Well, you're in for a treat. That starter is everything a prestolite isn't .... reliable, no bendix, and light weight. Ya can't go wrong. You'll have to get used to starting on the impulse mag (no problem if your key swithc has a start position) because the SkyTec spins an engine so fast that the std mag will fire. Yes, I have one and love it! Linn do not archive >My new email address: bobbyhester@charter.net >Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY >Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ >RV7A N857BH SB wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-) > > >linn Walters wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters >> >>Sounds like a gear mismatch to me, but you need to ask Les Staples >>directly at lstaples@itexas.net. Tell him Linn sent ya! >>Linn >>do not archive >>Shirley Harding wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" >>> >>>Listers, I'm running a Superior XP O 360 with a Skytech lightweight starter >>>(supplied as a package by Superior). After only 7 hours, I noticed the ring >>>gear was damaged. Replaced the ring gear, but after two subsequent starts, >>>observed chips on the new gear. I borrowed another Skytech starter and >>>installed that - it meshed a little better than mine but didn't engage >>>smoothly - they appear to be under-engaging. I've installed an old >>>heavyweight Bendix temporarily - that seems to work fine - but has any one >>>else had problems with the Skytech/Superior combination? >>> >>> >>> >>>Shirley Harding >>> >>>Perth, Western Australia >>> >>>RV6 7 hours - grinding teeth! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:13 PM PST US From: Tedd McHenry Subject: RV-List: Langley Fly-in June 24 --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry The annual Western Canada Wing fly-in is Saturday, June 24, at Langley Township Regional Airport (CYNJ). (Langley is 20 nm northeast of Bellingham, WA.) Gus Funnell, from Van's Aircraft, will be there, giving a seminar on RV building along with experienced local builders. For more information, including border crossing instructions, see our web page at http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/. Hope to see you all there! --- Tedd McHenry Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing tedd@vansairforce.org www.vansairforce.org