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1. 05:40 AM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Stephen J. Soule)
2. 05:46 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 06/04/06 (Tom Pilot)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Dale Ensing)
4. 08:22 AM - RV-10 Flight Training at Columbia, SC (CUB) in Sept (Patty Hamilton)
5. 10:03 AM - Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Gerry Filby)
6. 10:20 AM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Konrad L. Werner)
7. 10:27 AM - Dimpling Boo-boo (Folbrecht, Paul)
8. 10:39 AM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Ralph E. Capen)
9. 10:45 AM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Ralph E. Capen)
10. 10:50 AM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Ralph E. Capen)
11. 11:02 AM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Gerry Filby)
12. 11:02 AM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Gerry Filby)
13. 11:47 AM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (linn Walters)
14. 12:13 PM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (John Jessen)
15. 12:13 PM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Folbrecht, Paul)
16. 12:13 PM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Folbrecht, Paul)
17. 01:02 PM - Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test (John Fasching)
18. 01:02 PM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Derek K Sington)
19. 02:04 PM - Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test (Bruce Gray)
20. 02:26 PM - Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test (Ron Lee)
21. 02:58 PM - Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test (RVer273sb@aol.com)
22. 03:05 PM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (G McNutt)
23. 05:51 PM - Plane for sale (N67BT@aol.com)
24. 06:07 PM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Mauri Morin)
25. 07:36 PM - Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test (tiger10)
26. 07:52 PM - Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? (Gerry Filby)
27. 08:00 PM - Re: princeton capactive fuel probe (Mark E Navratil)
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| Subject: | RV Fuel Selector Handle |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Mine's been on backorder for quite a while. Glad to hear you got yours even
if it doesn't fit. Bet you can resell it!
Steve (N227RV)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Bell
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
Got the Cleaveland Aircraft Tool RV Fuel Selector Handle for Van's fuel
valve but looks to me the set screw should come in from the other direction
for my RV-4 set up. Wouldn't the set screw be on the shaft flat? Anyone got
theirs yet?
Regards,
Bruce Bell
RV-4 N23BB
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Pilot" <n91tr@hotmail.com>
please take me off of these lists.
Thanks
Tom
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>Subject: RV-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 06/04/06
>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 23:57:36 -0700
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> 1. 07:27 AM - Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Rob Prior (rv7))
> 2. 08:25 AM - My last Brake-drag post (lowell lemay)
> 3. 08:27 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Tim Bryan)
> 4. 08:30 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Albert
>Gardner)
> 5. 08:32 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Albert
>Gardner)
> 6. 09:00 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Jerry
>Springer)
> 7. 11:05 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Richard E.
>Tasker)
> 8. 11:44 AM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Albert
>Gardner)
> 9. 12:18 PM - RV Fuel Selector Handle (Bruce Bell)
> 10. 12:26 PM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Terry Watson)
> 11. 01:36 PM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Richard E.
>Tasker)
> 12. 01:56 PM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Alex Peterson)
> 13. 02:31 PM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Bruce Bell)
> 14. 03:07 PM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Jerry Springer)
> 15. 05:25 PM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Charlie
>England)
> 16. 06:28 PM - Landoll Balancer (PGLong@aol.com)
> 17. 07:44 PM - Re: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley (Rob Prior
>(rv7))
> 18. 08:29 PM - Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle (Alex Peterson)
>
>
>________________________________ Message 1
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:27:25 AM PST US
>From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
>Subject: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>Since we now have this fancy attachment system, it seems a waste not to at
>least try it. This was taken yesterday while flying between Langley, BC
>and Chilliwack, BC.
>
>-Rob
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>________________________________ Message 2
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:25:23 AM PST US
>From: "lowell lemay" <llemay1@austin.rr.com>
>Subject: RV-List: My last Brake-drag post
>
>Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. I tried all of them in reverse
>order of difficulty. Of course the last one worked. FYI where the
>brake pedals are bolted on at the bottom of the rudder pedals there is
>room for a bolt, a thin washer and nut to hold each on. 'Someone' had
>installed a thick washer, thereby making the pedals quite tight to
>rotate. Spent 3 hours on my belly in 88 degree temp correcting a five
>minute error. Following test flight succeeded in changing a frown to a
>grin by inverting the ADI. For those who have never benifited from
>'Brain Storming Sessions', remember to keep your suggestions POSITIVE
>and keep the "DUMB" questions coming...Even I can learn...........
>
>________________________________ Message 3
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:27:12 AM PST US
>From: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>Awsome picture Rob. The list seems pretty dead this weekend, must be som
>e
>event going on somewhere.
>Tim
>15 year RV-6 final assembly
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Rob Prior (rv7)
>Subject: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>Since we now have this fancy attachment system, it seems a waste not to a
>t
>least try it. This was taken yesterday while flying between Langley, BC
>and Chilliwack, BC.
>
>-Rob
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>
>________________________________ Message 4
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:30:53 AM PST US
>From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>We've always had the ability to enclose pics on the RV-10 list but
>please
>consider the problems associated with the increase in message size when
>you
>enclose pics. I reposted the formation pic (very impressive) after using
>the
>powertoy suggested by Matt and with one click it reduced the formation
>pic
>from 200K to 50K. I think it would be a good idea for us to reduce pic
>size
>whenever possible.
>Albert Gardner
>40422
>Yuma, AZ
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>On Behalf Of Rob Prior (rv7)
>Subject: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>Since we now have this fancy attachment system, it seems a waste not to
>at
>least try it. This was taken yesterday while flying between Langley, BC
>and Chilliwack, BC.
>-Rob
>
>
>________________________________ Message 5
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:32:02 AM PST US
>From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>We've always had the ability to enclose pics on the RV-10 list but
>please
>consider the problems associated with the increase in message size when
>you
>enclose pics. I reposted the formation pic (very impressive) after using
>the
>powertoy suggested by Matt and with one click it reduced the formation
>pic
>from 200K to 50K. I think it would be a good idea for us to reduce pic
>size
>whenever possible.
>Albert Gardner
>40422
>Yuma, AZ
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>On Behalf Of Rob Prior (rv7)
>Subject: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>Since we now have this fancy attachment system, it seems a waste not to
>at
>least try it. This was taken yesterday while flying between Langley, BC
>and Chilliwack, BC.
>-Rob
>
>
>________________________________ Message 6
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 09:00:29 AM PST US
>From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
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>________________________________ Message 7
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 11:05:33 AM PST US
>From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
>
>Of course, sending a message with a more highly compressed picture twice
>cuts down on the amount one saves by compressing the picture... I know,
>at least in my case, I would rather have a picture that is twice as
>large rather than two smaller copies of the same picture :-) ...
>
>Do not archive...
>
>Dick Tasker
>
>Albert Gardner wrote:
>
> >We've always had the ability to enclose pics on the RV-10 list but please
> >consider the problems associated with the increase in message size when
>you
> >enclose pics. I reposted the formation pic (very impressive) after using
>the
> >powertoy suggested by Matt and with one click it reduced the formation
>pic
> >from 200K to 50K. I think it would be a good idea for us to reduce pic
>size
> >whenever possible.
> >Albert Gardner
> >40422
> >Yuma, AZ
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
> >
>--
>
>Please Note:
>No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede,
>however,
>that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily
>inconvenienced.
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>
>
>________________________________ Message 8
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 11:44:28 AM PST US
>From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>
>When I saw that I had sent that message twice, I knew I 'was in for it'.
>For
>penance, I went out in the garage and drilled out 35 acceptable rivets, all
>of them in hard to reach areas. Previously I used Photoshop to resize
>pictures but this resizing tool works great, is fast, and the price is
>right. I used it on the photos I've been taking of my RV-10 project and it
>reduced them from about 400K to about 50K taking about 30 seconds to reduce
>35 pictures. Now, out to the garage to set 35 rivets.
>Albert Gardner
>Yuma, AZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
> Of course, sending a message with a more highly compressed picture twice
>cuts down on the amount one saves by compressing the picture... I know,
>at least in my case, I would rather have a picture that is twice as
>large rather than two smaller copies of the same picture :-) ...
>Do not archive...
>Dick Tasker
>
>
>________________________________ Message 9
>_____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:18:39 PM PST US
>From: "Bruce Bell" <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Got the Cleaveland Aircraft Tool RV Fuel Selector Handle for Van's fuel
>valve but looks to me the set screw should come in from the other direction
>for my RV-4 set up. Wouldn't the set screw be on the shaft flat? Anyone got
>theirs yet?
>Regards,
>Bruce Bell
>RV-4 N23BB
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE!
>
>
>________________________________ Message 10
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:26:31 PM PST US
>From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
>I think Rob's higher resolution photo was very appropriate for an aerial
>photo of a formation flight with a detailed background. The lower
>resolution
>is great for closer-up photos like we might take of an engine or airframe
>detail, but when there's a lot of information or maybe for a photo of
>someone's new paint job, at least for me I prefer the higher resolution. I
>might not feel the same if I had dial-up.
>
>By the way, great photo, Rob. I saved your message awhile back about taking
>air to air photos. Good stuff.
>
>Terry
>Seattle
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>
>When I saw that I had sent that message twice, I knew I 'was in for it'.
>For
>penance, I went out in the garage and drilled out 35 acceptable rivets, all
>of them in hard to reach areas. Previously I used Photoshop to resize
>pictures but this resizing tool works great, is fast, and the price is
>right. I used it on the photos I've been taking of my RV-10 project and it
>reduced them from about 400K to about 50K taking about 30 seconds to reduce
>35 pictures. Now, out to the garage to set 35 rivets.
>Albert Gardner
>Yuma, AZ
>
>-----Original Message-----
> Of course, sending a message with a more highly compressed picture twice
>cuts down on the amount one saves by compressing the picture... I know,
>at least in my case, I would rather have a picture that is twice as
>large rather than two smaller copies of the same picture :-) ...
>Do not archive...
>Dick Tasker
>
>
>________________________________ Message 11
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 01:36:09 PM PST US
>From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>Boy, you really must have felt guilty if you drilled out 35 good rivets!
>
>Dick
>
>Albert Gardner wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
> >
> >When I saw that I had sent that message twice, I knew I 'was in for it'.
>For
> >penance, I went out in the garage and drilled out 35 _*acceptable*_
>rivets, all
> >of them in hard to reach areas.
> >
> >
>
> >Do not archive...
> >Dick Tasker
> >
>--
>Please Note:
>No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede,
>however,
>that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily
>inconvenienced.
>--
>
>
>________________________________ Message 12
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 01:56:10 PM PST US
>From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell"
> > <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > Got the Cleaveland Aircraft Tool RV Fuel Selector Handle for
> > Van's fuel valve but looks to me the set screw should come in
> > from the other direction for my RV-4 set up. Wouldn't the set
> > screw be on the shaft flat? Anyone got theirs yet?
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Bell
> > RV-4 N23BB
>
>Bruce,
>
>I recall that the standard handle had a flat in the bore which corresponded
>with the flat on the shaft. Don't remember where the set screw was.
>
>BTW, I'd recommend giving the Van's selector valve the heave-ho. I flew
>with mine for about 700 hours, never quite sure if it would actually stick
>or not when changing tanks. It was painful to buy the Andair, but worth
>every penny.
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6-A N66AP 758 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>
>________________________________ Message 13
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 02:31:41 PM PST US
>From: "Bruce Bell" <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
>
>The new handle has the set screw.
>B. Bell
>
>
>________________________________ Message 14
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 03:07:46 PM PST US
>From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
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>________________________________ Message 15
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 05:25:15 PM PST US
>From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
>I promise, you wouldn't feel the same if you were stuck with dialup.
>
>The file size generated by 'smallest' using the MS software is plenty
>for viewing on a computer screen & the larger ones really hurt, when you
>get a few dozen every time you download email (multiple lists).
>
>It's easy to check file size before attaching the photo to an email &
>the 60% of us still stuck with dialup would be grateful.
>
>Charlie
>(resident the USA, soon-to-be member of the technological third world )
>
>Terry Watson wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
> >
> >I think Rob's higher resolution photo was very appropriate for an aerial
> >photo of a formation flight with a detailed background. The lower
>resolution
> >is great for closer-up photos like we might take of an engine or airframe
> >detail, but when there's a lot of information or maybe for a photo of
> >someone's new paint job, at least for me I prefer the higher resolution.
>I
> >might not feel the same if I had dial-up.
> >
> >By the way, great photo, Rob. I saved your message awhile back about
>taking
> >air to air photos. Good stuff.
> >
> >Terry
> >Seattle
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
> >
> >When I saw that I had sent that message twice, I knew I 'was in for it'.
>For
> >penance, I went out in the garage and drilled out 35 acceptable rivets,
>all
> >of them in hard to reach areas. Previously I used Photoshop to resize
> >pictures but this resizing tool works great, is fast, and the price is
> >right. I used it on the photos I've been taking of my RV-10 project and
>it
> >reduced them from about 400K to about 50K taking about 30 seconds to
>reduce
> >35 pictures. Now, out to the garage to set 35 rivets.
> >Albert Gardner
> >Yuma, AZ
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > Of course, sending a message with a more highly compressed picture twice
> >cuts down on the amount one saves by compressing the picture... I know,
> >at least in my case, I would rather have a picture that is twice as
> >large rather than two smaller copies of the same picture :-) ...
> >Do not archive...
> >Dick Tasker
> >
>
>
>________________________________ Message 16
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 06:28:17 PM PST US
>From: PGLong@aol.com
>Subject: RV-List: Landoll Balancer
>
>Just picked up a used Landoll Balancer. Has anyone got any installation
>information available? I have the copy of a sheet that shows pictures of
>the
>components and tell what it does, but I'm looking for torque requirements
>of the
>
>bolts and general installation information. This is the silicone fluid
>balancer with aerobatic plate. Thanks as always.......
>
>Pat Long
>PGLong@aol.com
>N120PL
>RV4
>Bay City, Michigan
>3CM
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>
>________________________________ Message 17
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:44:13 PM PST US
>From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Formation fun in the Fraser Valley
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
>
>On 17:18:09 2006-06-04 Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > The file size generated by 'smallest' using the MS software is plenty
> > for viewing on a computer screen & the larger ones really hurt, when
> > you get a few dozen every time you download email (multiple lists).
>
>Well, Matt has just given us carte-blanche to post items to the 'list. If
>you think a 200k image is bad, you might want to consider what will happen
>when someone thinks their vacation photos would be appropriate. For anyone
>on dial-up, I would say that this list has just stopped being a viable
>resource for you, and that's unfortunate.
>
>Someone posted that I should use the Microsoft "Resize" powertoy. If that
>person had been a little more observant, they would have seen that I *did*
>use the powertoy, to create that image. I'm assuming nobody wanted the
>7.5MB raw image posted to the 'list, so I compressed it to 200kB. Any
>smaller, and I believe the image loses too much of its impact. I'm sorry
>if you disagree, but as the artist I prefer that my image reflect the scene
>as I saw it and the smaller images just don't do it.
>
>Finally, i'll point out that I have only received *two* of the replies to
>my original post. The reply with the smaller image never reached me, the
>suggestion to use the powertoy never reached me, and two of the other
>messages referred to elsewhere in the thread never reached me either.
>Maybe this attachment thing has messed up some other part of the
>distribution mechanism for the list...
>
>-Rob
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>
>________________________________ Message 18
>____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 08:29:01 PM PST US
>From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
>Fuel lube gets extremely stiff at temperatures like we get in Minnesota in
>the winter. I could hardly turn my Van's valve at temps around 10F or
>colder. Perhaps there is another lube which will make the valve not creak
>and groan, and would work in cold temperatures, but I don't know what it
>would be.
>
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6-A N66AP 758 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer
>Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:05 PM
>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Fuel Selector Handle
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Just so people don't get the
>wrong idea about Van's selector valve all you have to do is screw off the
>top of it and clean it up
> and put some fuel lube on it and it works as good as new. Mine has worked
>great for almost 18 years now.
>Andair is nice but not necessary.
>
>Jerry
>do not archive
>
>
>Alex Peterson wrote:
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson"
><mailto:alexpeterson@earthlink.net> <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell"
>
> <mailto:brucebell74@sbcglobal.net> <brucebell74@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>Got the Cleaveland Aircraft Tool RV Fuel Selector Handle for
>
>Van's fuel valve but looks to me the set screw should come in
>
>from the other direction for my RV-4 set up. Wouldn't the set
>
>screw be on the shaft flat? Anyone got theirs yet?
>
>Regards,
>
>Bruce Bell
>
>RV-4 N23BB
>
>
>Bruce,
>
>
>I recall that the standard handle had a flat in the bore which corresponded
>
>with the flat on the shaft. Don't remember where the set screw was.
>
>
>BTW, I'd recommend giving the Van's selector valve the heave-ho. I flew
>
>with mine for about 700 hours, never quite sure if it would actually stick
>
>or not when changing tanks. It was painful to buy the Andair, but worth
>
>every penny.
>
>
>Alex Peterson
>
>RV6-A N66AP 758 hours
>
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV Fuel Selector Handle |
Fuel lube gets extremely stiff at temperatures like we get in Minnesota
in the winter. I could hardly turn my Van's valve at temps around 10F
or colder. Perhaps there is another lube which will make the valve not
creak and groan, and would work in cold temperatures, but I don't know
what it would be.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 758 hours
Maple Grove, MN
Alex,
Suggest you try Dow Corning 3452 flourosilicone valve lube available
from AS. Low temp property is -20F
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dc3452valvelub.php
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | RV-10 Flight Training at Columbia, SC (CUB) in Sept |
Mike Seager will be in Columbia, SC (CUB) on Sept 5 & 6. He will be
giving flight training in the factory RV-10. The cost is 60 per hour for
Mike and the plane rents for 75 per hour for a total of $ 135 per hour.
If you are interested in flying with Mike, please email me at Hamilton@sc.e
du Once I get a feel for who and how many would like to fly with Mike I
will set up a schedule to hopefully accommodate everyone's agenda. Thanks,
Patty Hamilton
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| Subject: | Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
__g__
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
Have you looked into http://robbinswings.com/ for their custom
heatmuffs.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerry Filby
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
__g__
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Dimpling Boo-boo |
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about
.20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel
backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a dab
of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to
prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this sort
of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Another one to look at is Larry Vetterman - I got his crossover exhaust with mufflers
- the heater boxes are part of the mufflers - you can see the mufflers
at Aircraft Exhaust technologies (built for the vetterman kits). Rumour has it
that they really pump out the heat - but I haven't flown yet.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2006 12:56 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
>I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
>firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
>about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>
>__g__
>
>==========================================================
>Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
>----------------------------------------------------------
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I'm guessing that you had a 912S/914 as you have those parts for sale....
What are you putting in now? More oooomph? Trying to get to the VNE?
Curious as someone else mentioned a Jabiru 6....
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2006 12:56 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
>I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
>firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
>about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>
>__g__
>
>==========================================================
>Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
>----------------------------------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sorrry - Ogre Fingers......wrong list!
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2006 1:44 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>
>I'm guessing that you had a 912S/914 as you have those parts for sale....
>
>What are you putting in now? More oooomph? Trying to get to the VNE?
>
>Curious as someone else mentioned a Jabiru 6....
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>>Sent: Jun 5, 2006 12:56 PM
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>>
>>
>>I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
>>firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
>>about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>>
>>__g__
>>
>>==========================================================
>>Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
>> Tel: 415 203 9177
>>----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling Boo-boo |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
He he ... I'll give you a cent to a dollar it won't be the last
:-) I think I've got about 3 of those so far. The general
wisdom I've heard is to flatten it out and move on, its more of
a cosmetic issue than a structural one ...
g
> A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
> helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
> male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about
> ..20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel
> backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
>
>
>
> I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a dab
> of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to
> prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this sort
> of thing?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> 9A QB #1176
>
>
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__g__
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
Hmm, my understanding is that its Robbins that supplies the
ones that come in Vans kits - its that sketchy
end-cap-rod-pipe-clamp-slip-joint-thingemy that bugs me ...
g
> Have you looked into http://robbinswings.com/ for their
> custom heatmuffs.
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gerry Filby
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:56 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
> firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
> about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>
> __g__
>
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
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> --
> 6/2/2006
>
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Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling Boo-boo |
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
> A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
> helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
> male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole
> about .20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on
> a steel backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
>
>
>
> I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a
> dab of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea
> to prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this
> sort of thing?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> 9A QB #1176
>
I haven't gone this route, but unless the "new" dimple severely impacted
the correct dimple, I would leave it dimpled. It would make it much
easier to fill with whatever body putty you use' As for stress crack,
I'd just clean up the edges of the new (dimpled) hole.
Linn Lots of rivets, but none in my -10 yet!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Dimpling Boo-boo |
I would have left it dimpled and inserted a rivet. Let the painters cover
up the mistake. And, welcome to the club!
John J
RV-10 Tailcone
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the male
die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about .20"
from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel backrivet
plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a dab of
tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to prevent a
vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this sort of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
I haven't gone this route, but unless the "new" dimple severely impacted the
correct dimple, I would leave it dimpled. It would make it much easier to
fill with whatever body putty you use' As for stress crack, I'd just clean
up the edges of the new (dimpled) hole.
Linn Lots of rivets, but none in my -10 yet!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Dimpling Boo-boo |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
Well, I'm nearly done with the emp., and I have a QB kit, so there is
not much dimpling remaining! :-}
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Filby
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
He he ... I'll give you a cent to a dollar it won't be the last
:-) I think I've got about 3 of those so far. The general
wisdom I've heard is to flatten it out and move on, its more of
a cosmetic issue than a structural one ...
g
> A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
> helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
> male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole
about
> ..20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a
steel
> backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
>
>
>
> I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a
dab
> of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to
> prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this
sort
> of thing?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> 9A QB #1176
>
>
--
__g__
==========================================================
Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Dimpling Boo-boo |
This is why I should check the list before I do anything. ;-} I pounded
it out immediately afterward without thinking it through completely...
hey, it looked better.
________________________________
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about
.20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel
backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a dab
of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to
prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this sort
of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
I haven't gone this route, but unless the "new" dimple severely impacted
the correct dimple, I would leave it dimpled. It would make it much
easier to fill with whatever body putty you use' As for stress crack,
I'd just clean up the edges of the new (dimpled) hole.
Linn Lots of rivets, but none in my -10 yet!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test |
Can anyone point me to the applicable regulation for the "requirement"
for a pressure test for oxygen bottles?
This has the "smell" of an OSHA requirement and I am trying to determine
its applicability (if any) to small portable ones used in private
aircraft. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Dimpling Boo-boo |
Paul,
I know exactly what you mean. I did exactly the same on an elevator skin,
and tried to weave the hole into a much bigger one for a huge rivet.
Consequently I created a rather large crack and had to get a new skin. That
said, I'm glad I did, as I know that every time I would have looked at that
elevator I would have wished I hadn't been such a fool. Question is this,
therefore; is it on the upper or lower surface?
Regards,
Derek.
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Folbrecht, Paul
Sent: 05 June 2006 20:13
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
This is why I should check the list before I do anything. ;-} I pounded it
out immediately afterward without thinking it through completely. hey, it
looked better.
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the male
die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about .20"
from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel backrivet
plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a dab of
tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to prevent a
vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this sort of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
I haven't gone this route, but unless the "new" dimple severely impacted the
correct dimple, I would leave it dimpled. It would make it much easier to
fill with whatever body putty you use' As for stress crack, I'd just clean
up the edges of the new (dimpled) hole.
Linn Lots of rivets, but none in my -10 yet!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test |
I believe it's a DOT reg.
http://www.c-f-c.com/gaslink/docs/dot_cylinder.htm
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fasching
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test
Can anyone point me to the applicable regulation for the "requirement"
for a
pressure test for oxygen bottles?
This has the "smell" of an OSHA requirement and I am trying to determine
its
applicability (if any) to small portable ones used in private aircraft.
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test |
At 02:00 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote:
>Can anyone point me to the applicable regulation for the "requirement" for
>a pressure test for oxygen bottles?
>
>This has the "smell" of an OSHA requirement and I am trying to determine
>its applicability (if any) to small portable ones used in private
>aircraft. Thanks.
http://www.bouldermountainfire.org/training/hydro.html
http://tinyurl.com/kbc4v
http://tinyurl.com/z82a8
There is a way around this rule. Fill your own cylinder. But I would never
skimp on this safety regulation just to save a few bucks every five years.
There are places to save and places not to save. This is one where you
follow the rules.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test |
3AA bottles are due every 5 years.
Most over looked item in an aircraft
Stewart
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Make your own, simple, cheap, better. Look in RV-list photo archives
George McNutt
Gerry Filby wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
> firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
> about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>
>
>
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Well I'm getting close to completing my 7A and have a Grumman AA1C T-Cat for
sale. I've had this plane for almost 13 years while building the RV (it
started out as a 6A). The T-Cat makes a great transition airplane for RV
builders. It has the light handling, castering nose wheel (differential breaking),
size, weight, and view of an RV. The performance and appearance are not the
same. Anyway, details are on my web site:
http://users.aol.com/flyerground
Bob Trumpfheller
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
I second Ralph.
Mine is SO PRETTY, I hate to put the cowel on.
Mauri Morin
Polson, MT
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Another one to look at is Larry Vetterman - I got his crossover exhaust
with mufflers - the heater boxes are part of the mufflers - you can see
the mufflers at Aircraft Exhaust technologies (built for the vetterman
kits). Rumour has it that they really pump out the heat - but I haven't
flown yet.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2006 12:56 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
>I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
>firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
>about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test |
It is a DOT requirement to have the bottles checked at regular
inatervals. If I recall the steel bottles are good for 5 years betweeen
checks and no life limit. Them light weight ones are I think 3 years and
some thing like a 20 Year service life. If you have an out of date
bottle you most likely will not find anyone to fill it.
tiger 10
----- Original Message -----
From: John Fasching
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Bottle Pressure Test
Can anyone point me to the applicable regulation for the "requirement"
for a pressure test for oxygen bottles?
This has the "smell" of an OSHA requirement and I am trying to
determine its applicability (if any) to small portable ones used in
private aircraft. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
And Mr Vetterman(?) generously offered to take my standard
straight pipes (disconnect at the ball joint) and swap them out
for the pipes with the combo muffler/heater - now I get dual
heat source and a quieter airplane.
g
> I second Ralph.
> Mine is SO PRETTY, I hate to put the cowel on.
>
> Mauri Morin
> Polson, MT
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Another one to look at is Larry Vetterman - I got his crossover
> exhaust with mufflers - the heater boxes are part of the
> mufflers - you can see the mufflers at Aircraft Exhaust
> technologies (built for the vetterman kits). Rumour has it
> that they really pump out the heat - but I haven't flown yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> >Sent: Jun 5, 2006 12:56 PM
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV-List: Vans Heat Muff ... alternatives ?
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> >
> >
> >I'm not impressed with Vans heat muff as supplied in the
> >firewall forward kit - has anyone used an alternative ? How
> >about the "Homebuilders Heat Muff 9" in Spruce's catalog ?
>
--
__g__
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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Cc: sarg314@comcast.net
| Subject: | Re: princeton capactive fuel probe |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
Hi Tom,
I bought the capacitive Princeton probes through Grand Rapids to use with
my EIS-4000 and the probes came already bent and ready to install in the
RV
tanks. I have an -8A but as far as I know the same bend profile will
work
in the -6 series too. Might not hurt to double-check before ordering.
As far as using them "successfully" goes, I've had decent results with
mine. You go through a calibration setup procedure where you turn power
on, push a button on the probe with the tank empty for the empty set
point,
then fill the tank and push the button again for the full set point. The
first time I did this it worked fine on one tank but the other tank was
reading 0.0 and the LED on the probe was flashing an error code.
Instructions said to try the calibration procedure again before calling
Princeton. This is a bit of a pain because you have to empty the tank
completely....it worked out ok for me because I was flight testing and
figured what the heck, I should run the tank dry in the air anyway just
to
make sure I can really use all the fuel in flight. After resetting it
the
probe has worked fine.
My only complaint--and it's a minor one--is that with the tanks full, the
reading from the senders varies by about a gallon. You can program the
EIS
to show whatever quantity you want when the sender is at the full
level...I
measured about 11 gals in my tank when the fuel is at the top of the
sender
so that's what I programmed into the EIS. But the actual reading after
refueling is anywhere from 10.0 to 10.9, and it varies from day to day.
I
didn't expect capacitive probes to wander in their readings like this.
Anyway, the important part is that they do seem to read accurately when
near empty. I have an alarm on my EIS set up to warn me when fuel level
is
reading 1.0 gals in either tank. It will start to flash at me a few
minutes before the engine quits. So I'm satisfied with that aspect of
it.
One other note of interest, I originally installed Vans float sensors in
my
tanks but decided to change to capacitive in hopes that I'd never have to
yank them out and change them (time will tell...). I made the swap
before
mounting my wings so it was easy. The curious thing is that in order to
install the Princeton probes, I had to install both the probe and the
tank
access plate at the same time, with a series of twists and turns. If you
install the probe in the access plate first, or install the plate and
then
try to put in the probe, it won't work. I just mention this because it
may
be a lot harder to retrofit a flying airplane than it was with the wings
off....
Hope this helps,
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D getting ready for 50 hr oil change..
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From: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: princeton capactive fuel probe
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I'm looking for a capacitive fuel probe/gauge to use in my old (circa
1999) RV-6A kit (tanks already built). The princeton probes look
interesting because they could probably be used in this tank. You can
specify a bendable section which I think would make it useable with the
standard RV-6A tank configuration.
Has any one used these probes successfully?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A
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