RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/19/06


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:07 AM - Alternator sense wire (Dale Walter)
     2. 07:26 AM - Good active noise cancelling heaset (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
     3. 07:27 AM - Re: ti tie downs (Konrad L. Werner)
     4. 07:54 AM - High egt in idle descent (Jeff Dowling)
     5. 07:56 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Jeff Dowling)
     6. 08:15 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Bjorn Fahller)
     7. 08:22 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Mickey Coggins)
     8. 08:36 AM - Re: ti tie downs (Paul Besing)
     9. 08:41 AM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Doug Weiler)
    10. 08:44 AM - Re: ti tie downs (Konrad L. Werner)
    11. 08:52 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (dorante@juno.com)
    12. 08:56 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Paul Besing)
    13. 09:32 AM - FS: ANR Headset (Tim Olson)
    14. 09:45 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Joseph Larson)
    15. 10:50 AM - Re: ti tie downs (Paul Besing)
    16. 11:00 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Paul Besing)
    17. 11:54 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Joseph Larson)
    18. 05:14 PM - Tragic lose (Richard Sipp)
    19. 06:25 PM - Re: Tragic lose (Folbrecht, Paul)
    20. 07:26 PM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Sherman Butler)
    21. 08:03 PM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Bill VonDane)
    22. 08:50 PM - Re: Tragic lose (Jerry Springer)
    23. 08:58 PM - Re: Tragic lose (gert)
    24. 09:44 PM - Re: Tragic loss (Hans Conser)
    25. 09:47 PM - Re: Alternator sense wire (az_gila)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:07:24 AM PST US
    From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
    Subject: Alternator sense wire
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net> Good morning, I read about this (connecting a wire from sense pin to output post) recently and knew mine was not there. My voltage had usually been between 13 and 14 volts but occasionally dropped to 12.2 or up to 15.9. So Saturday I connected the sense wire. On the first 3 flights short flights the voltage has been much more stable; 13.0 to 14.1. Never saw more than 14.1. I plugged a $15 battery monitor from Walmart to my cig lighter to back up the reading from my Grand Rapids EIS voltmeter. Alternator is the common one from a Japanese vehicle. Thanks to those who brought up this issue recently. My question is; can anyone explain why the voltage did not run up much higher before I had a sense wire connected? Thanks, Dale Walter RV6a 618 hrs


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    Time: 07:26:49 AM PST US
    From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
    Subject: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr> Listers, I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could always go for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the best however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I feel I would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ for the headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just as good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available at a much lower price. Anyone care to comment??? Please. Michele RV8 Fuselage - France


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    Time: 07:27:46 AM PST US
    From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: ti tie downs
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net> When I bought my sets a few years ago, he told me that he just quit his job at the TI factory, but that he bought enough supplies to make his TI Downs for some years to come. So I guess the info on the website may not be up to date (...unless he went back to work at the factory). ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bryan To: rv-list@roxy.matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: ti tie downs Hi website says he works for the titanium place and uses their equipment to build them. Maybe they put a kabosh on that. -------Original Message------- From: Wheeler North Date: 06/16/06 08:42:05 To: 'RV-List Digest Server ' Subject: RV-List: ti tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu> Tim, Don't know, but I've had that idea for several years. I once sent Randy an email asking if he would make them for me, but alas, no reply.... he must make his living by another means. W Time: 01:59:53 PM PST US From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Tie Downs --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Wheeler, I have the Claw tiedowns too, and they work great. Question for any of you who may be "in the know" on metal sources though.... Do you think that titanium stakes for use in the claw would save a bit of weight? It comes with 9 steel stakes, and it adds up a bit. If I could spend $50 extra and get titanium, I may consider it. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 07:54:25 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
    Subject: High egt in idle descent
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net> MessageDoes anyone know why egt gets high in an idle descent (1580 degrees)? Shemp/Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 295 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Schreck To: 'RV List' Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:01 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: Fuel Injected - or Not Flow matching for $1000! Wow, what do they do for that kind of money. I have AFP fuel injection on my IO360 and paid a visit to AFP at KSPA. If you live anywhere near SC the trip is well worth the $300 I paid to Don for an afternoon of flight testing, nozzle balancing and FI education by his small but very professional staff. Four of them spent the better part of an afternoon precisely balancing my system. It took four test hops and they even provided the data recorder in the back seat! I don't know how you could do the job on a test stand and I don't know why it should cost $1000. Ron Schreck RV-8 "Miss Izzy" Gold Hill Airpark, NC From: "Vern W." <highflight1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Fuel Injected - or Not The original poster is deciding on whether to order his new engine with or without FI, not convert an existing engine. I don't know about Aerosport, but I bought a brand new TMX-IO360 w/Airflow Performance FI from Mattituck (it arrived just last week) and the differenc e in price BETWEEN the standard carb engine and going to the AFP FI was only $700. For me, that was a no brainer going with the FI at that price difference because of the already mentioned advantages. In fact, I went one step further and paid the additional $1000 for the "Flow Matching" option that gives you the ability to lean very exactingly by the engines ability to kee p all four cylinders running at the same fuel flow. So even at the additional $1700 for the way I went, it was still a no brainer. I admit that if were actually flying with a carbed engine, I would probably seriously wonder if I wanted to spend more than $3000 to change it over, bu t that's not an issue with a brand new engine order. Vern RV7-A Houston, TX


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    Time: 07:56:52 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net> A cheap used set of David Clarks and install your own anr kit. Works for me at less than half the price. Shemp/Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 295 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:23 AM > --> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= > <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr> > > Listers, > > > I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could always > go > for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the best > however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all > magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I feel I > would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ for the > headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just > as > good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available > at > a much lower price. > > > Anyone care to comment??? Please. > > > Michele > > RV8 - Fuselage - France > > >


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    Time: 08:15:57 AM PST US
    From: Bjorn Fahller <rv@fahller.se>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bjorn Fahller <rv@fahller.se> On Monday 19 June 2006 16:23, Michle Delsol wrote: > I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just as > good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available > at a much lower price. > > Anyone care to comment??? Please. I have since a few years a Sennheisser HMEC350. It is a very good ANR headset, although a bit hungry on batteries. Disadvanvage is also the fairly large battery box. I recently bought a Bose headset X, and there is no doubt that it's the better headset. If it's better enough to warrant the rediculous price, is another matter. _ /Bjorn


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    Time: 08:22:36 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could always go > for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the best > however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all > magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I feel I > would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ for the > headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just as > good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available at > a much lower price. The best idea is to try on as many as you can, and when you find the right one, buy it. Don't worry about the price - they are all expensive. I've tried most headsets on the market at OSH and SNF, even though I had already bought the Bose. I'm happy with them. They even fit my daughters (4 and 6) comfortably. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive


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    Time: 08:36:49 AM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: ti tie downs
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> Not really the case anymore...as of a couple of years ago anyway. I shared a booth at Oshkosh '02 with him. He quit working there, and built his own machine for making them. He got a bulk quantity of Ti for making them. Paul Besing --- Tim Bryan <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com> wrote: > Hi website says he works for the titanium place and > uses their equipment to > build them. Maybe they put a kabosh on that. > > -------Original Message------- > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North > <wnorth@sdccd.edu> > > Tim, > > Don't know, but I've had that idea for several > years. > > I once sent Randy an email asking if he would make > them for me, but alas, no > reply.... he must make his living by another means. > > W > > > Time: 01:59:53 PM PST US > > --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Wheeler, I have the Claw tiedowns too, and they work > great. > Question for any of you who may be "in the know" on > metal sources > though.... > Do you think that titanium stakes for use in the > claw would save > a bit of weight? It comes with 9 steel stakes, and > it adds up > a bit. If I could spend $50 extra and get titanium, > I may > consider it. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > > > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________


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    Time: 08:41:25 AM PST US
    From: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise canceling headset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org> I fly an RV-4 and observed an interesting issue regarding Bose headsets. I have used David Clark's ENC headsets for 3 years. No complaints whatsoever. I have used Bose headsets in many other aircraft and there are amazing. I had saved up to buy a set of Bose headsets for my RV-4 but I then borrowed a set and tried them out in my airplane. I was actually surprised to find that they were no better than by David Clark ENC units. I attribute this to the proximity of the canopy in the RV-4. Much of the noise is higher frequency wind noise and although the Bose does a great job of reducing noise, I don't think it is any better than the DC when it comes to high frequency wind noise. So I saved myself $2000 and stayed with my DC units. For side-by-side RVs, I think the Bose would be superior but at least in the RV-4 with the canopy just inches from your head, I'll stay with the DC's Just my opinion. Doug Weiler RV-4, 300 hrs On 6/19/06 9:55 AM, "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net> > > A cheap used set of David Clarks and install your own anr kit. Works for me > at less than half the price. > > Shemp/Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 295 hours > Chicago/Louisville > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:23 AM > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol? >> <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr> >> >> Listers, >> >> >> >> I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could always >> go >> for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the best >> however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all >> magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I feel I >> would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ for the >> headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just >> as >> good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available >> at >> a much lower price. >> >> >> >> Anyone care to comment??? Please. >> >> >> >> Michele >> >> RV8 - Fuselage - France >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:44:31 AM PST US
    From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: ti tie downs
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net> Hi Paul, When was the last time you spoke to him? Any idea if he is still around? K. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Besing To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: ti tie downs --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> Not really the case anymore...as of a couple of years ago anyway. I shared a booth at Oshkosh '02 with him. He quit working there, and built his own machine for making them. He got a bulk quantity of Ti for making them. Paul Besing


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    Time: 08:52:23 AM PST US
    From: "dorante@juno.com" <dorante@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: "dorante@juno.com" <dorante@juno.com> I installed an ANR kit in my David Clarks; less than $200 with the optional ear seals. It works great, and I fly helos. IMO, there is no doubt the Bose are better, but not worth the price differential. Their website is http://anr-headsets.com/ Do not archive Tom


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    Time: 08:56:47 AM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> This comes up a few times a year...I'll chime in again. Bose, Bose, Bose. My comfort, hearing, and all around flight enjoyment make the headset worth every stinkin penny. Have been flying with one pair for 5 years now, 1000 hours, including flight instructing several flights/day in the summer, with no problems. I'm sure you'll hear how great the customer service is for lightspeed, and how "every time" they send them back they come back quickly, no charge, new earcups, etc....the point is, they have to be sent back!! My Bose have taken a beating, and have never had to go back. Spend the money now...when it's comfort, it's worth it. I like the analogy of a bed. You don't (at least most don't) buy a cheap bed..why? Because you sleep on it every night and it's about YOU and comfort...well, IMHO, Bose fit the same mission...flying is supposed to be enjoyable, and I haven't found a more comfortable, reliable, headset. The $1000 is not for buying the ads...Bose can afford to buy the ads without the headset price! Everything they sell is expensive. It's really a $1000 headset in my opinion. If you were to buy a $600 headset, is the Bose worth $400 more? I think so...it's not like I said, "well, I guess I'll pay the $1000" I honestly feel that they are worth that. So much so that I bought a second pair for my passengers. And no, I'm not made of money either! I used their no interest 12 month payment plan which makes it much easier to stomach. Paul Besing --- Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol? > <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr> > > Listers, > > > > I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever > headset. I could always go > for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) > and probably the best > however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in > practically all > magazines, and this includes French magazines, got > me thinking. I feel I > would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not > more) and 600$ for the > headset. I figure that there should be a headset out > there probably just as > good but for which the advertising budget is a lot > lower, hence available at > a much lower price. > > > > Anyone care to comment??? Please. > > > > Michele > > RV8 Fuselage - France > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________


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    Time: 09:32:54 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: FS: ANR Headset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I still have my one regular sized ANR headset for sale after buying my final Bose set. My previous headsets, all 4 pairs, were upgraded with the ANR Headset upgrades from http://www.anr-headsets.com/ and also beyond that, a noise reducing kit similar to the Oregon Aero Hushkit. (I got the materials and did it myself) In addition I installed Gel earseals like the David Clark headsets have. This headset started life as a nice Flightcom 5DX headset, and then got the ANR upgrade, hushkit, and gel earseals as listed above. With the ANR it would actually be closer to the Classic ANR set now offered from Flightcom. http://www.flightcom.net/headsets/classic-anr-headset.php The sound quality while listening to stereo music is excellent, and it is a Stereo headset with individual earcup volume controls and a stereo/mono switch. I was going to list them on ebay, but I thought I'd post them here first in case someone from the RV community was interested. I stuck them on my site at: http://www.myrv10.com/forsale/headsets/ I have an addition to what I'll send with this headset, if you want it. It's an extension box that I made, that allows me to plug the headset into the front seat jacks, including ANR power jacks, and extend it far enough aft that you can easily sit in the rear seat and use them. My wife used it when she sat in the back with the kids, but still was on the "crew" side of the intercom. If you want this box and you get the headset, just let me know. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive


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    Time: 09:45:47 AM PST US
    From: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org> I haven't tried all the expensive headsets. My flying budget has never been unlimited, so I make my choices carefully. With this in mind, I bought a pair of the Lightspeed headsets, and I've been very happy with them. There are really three things to consider with headsets: -Quality of noise suppression (both passive and active) -Comfort -Price Of these items, the bottom two can be measured at Oshkosh. But the top one can not. For that, you can try to compare the noise suppression charts and statistics published by the headset manufacturers. Or you can test fly and judge for yourself. The one time I compared my Lightspeeds against a friend's Bose, I wasn't able to detect a difference. Someone with more sensitive hearing may disagree. When I bought the Lightspeeds, Bose was publishing better active/ passive noise suppression by a total of only 1 or 2 dB. I felt the very minor difference this suggested was no where near worth paying 3-4 times as much. -J On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Mickey Coggins wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > >> I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could >> always go >> for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the >> best >> however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all >> magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I >> feel I >> would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ >> for the >> headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there >> probably just as >> good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence >> available at >> a much lower price. > > The best idea is to try on as many as you can, and when you find the > right one, buy it. Don't worry about the price - they are all > expensive. I've tried most headsets on the market at OSH and > SNF, even though I had already bought the Bose. I'm happy with > them. They even fit my daughters (4 and 6) comfortably. > > -- > Mickey Coggins > http://www.rv8.ch/ > #82007 finishing > > > do not archive > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > wiki.matronics.com > >


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    Time: 10:50:25 AM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: ti tie downs
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> I haven't spoken to him in a couple of years. Last email communication I had with him was probably 1 1/2 years ago. He's somewhat of a recluse it seems. He does alot of ultralight flying in the backwoods. I think he and the unibomber share a cabin up in Idaho or something. Some people have received their tie downs and communications in short time, others in 8 months. No rhyme or reason, unfortunately. I really don't think he's a crook or anything...he's just not the most business savvy person in the world! Paul Besing --- "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" > <klwerner@comcast.net> > > Hi Paul, > When was the last time you spoke to him? Any idea if > he is still around? > K. > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Besing > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: RV-List: ti tie downs > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing > <pbesing@yahoo.com> > > Not really the case anymore...as of a couple of > years > ago anyway. I shared a booth at Oshkosh '02 with > him. > He quit working there, and built his own machine > for > making them. He got a bulk quantity of Ti for > making > them. > > Paul Besing > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:00:31 AM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> > When I bought the Lightspeeds, Bose was publishing > better active/ > passive noise suppression by a total of only 1 or 2 > dB. I felt the > very minor difference this suggested was no where > near worth paying > 3-4 times as much. > > -J > There is no argument that the quality of the ANR on the lightspeed is good as the Bose. I think the big difference between the lightspeed and Bose is quality of the headset frames, and of course comfort. Personally, the comfort factor is worth the money IMHO. You forget you are wearing them in about 2 minutes. Paul Besing __________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:54:27 AM PST US
    From: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org> Ah, well, it comes down to how much does $1700 (the price savings for 2 headsets) mean do you. For some folks, $1700 isn't much. For others, it's a lot. I can put up with some discomfort after a couple of hours of flight if it means I can actually afford to fly. -J PS: Computer geek, will code for flight time. do not archive On Jun 19, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Paul Besing wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> > > >> When I bought the Lightspeeds, Bose was publishing >> better active/ >> passive noise suppression by a total of only 1 or 2 >> dB. I felt the >> very minor difference this suggested was no where >> near worth paying >> 3-4 times as much. >> >> -J >> > > There is no argument that the quality of the ANR on > the lightspeed is good as the Bose. I think the big > difference between the lightspeed and Bose is quality > of the headset frames, and of course comfort. > Personally, the comfort factor is worth the money > IMHO. You forget you are wearing them in about 2 > minutes. > > Paul Besing


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    Time: 05:14:33 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Tragic lose
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> Tragically, we have lost one of the RV families best this past weekend, Chris Good of West Bend, Wisconsin. We will celebrate Chris' life on Saturday June 24. Visitation 2:00 PM Central Mass 4:00 PM St. James Episcopal Church 148 South 8th Street West Bend, Wisconsin Church: 262 334 4242 Dick Sipp


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    Time: 06:25:19 PM PST US
    From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
    Subject: Tragic lose
    What happened?? Chris was the first RV'er I ever met in person. Met me fo r a ride without knowing me (didn't go b/c the field went IFR). He is well known in these parts. I didn't know him well, but I feel sick right now... Godspeed, Chris. ________________________________ Sent: Mon 6/19/2006 7:02 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> Tragically, we have lost one of the RV families best this past weekend, Chr is Good of West Bend, Wisconsin. We will celebrate Chris' life on Saturday June 24. Visitation 2:00 PM Central Mass 4:00 PM St. James Episcopal Church 148 South 8th Street West Bend, Wisconsin Church: 262 334 4242 Dick Sipp ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ==========


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    Time: 07:26:52 PM PST US
    From: Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> I found the audio quality of the Bose to be superior. I have a hearing loss that is getting worse with time (age) that background noise interferes with my ability to hear, and the Lightspeeds were not good enough. I was also tired of sending them back for repair. Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing This comes up a few times a year...I'll chime in again. Bose, Bose, Bose. My comfort, hearing, and all around flight enjoyment make the headset worth every stinkin penny. Have been flying with one pair for 5 years now, 1000 hours, including flight instructing several flights/day in the summer, with no problems. I'm sure you'll hear how great the customer service is for lightspeed, and how "every time" they send them back they come back quickly, no charge, new earcups, etc....the point is, they have to be sent back!! My Bose have taken a beating, and have never had to go back. Spend the money now...when it's comfort, it's worth it. Do not archive Sherman Butler RV-7a Wings Idaho Falls ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:03:05 PM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> I have the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country's ($325 from Van's)... I love them... My buddy has Bose, and he likes them too... -Bill www.rv8a.com ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:22 PM --> RV-List message posted by: Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> I found the audio quality of the Bose to be superior. I have a hearing loss that is getting worse with time (age) that background noise interferes with my ability to hear, and the Lightspeeds were not good enough. I was also tired of sending them back for repair. Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing This comes up a few times a year...I'll chime in again. Bose, Bose, Bose. My comfort, hearing, and all around flight enjoyment make the headset worth every stinkin penny. Have been flying with one pair for 5 years now, 1000 hours, including flight instructing several flights/day in the summer, with no problems. I'm sure you'll hear how great the customer service is for lightspeed, and how "every time" they send them back they come back quickly, no charge, new earcups, etc....the point is, they have to be sent back!! My Bose have taken a beating, and have never had to go back. Spend the money now...when it's comfort, it's worth it. Do not archive Sherman Butler RV-7a Wings Idaho Falls ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:50:38 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Tragic lose
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net> Folbrecht, Paul wrote: > What happened?? Chris was the first RV'er I ever met in person. Met me for a ride without knowing me (didn't go b/c the field went IFR). He is well known in these parts. > > I didn't know him well, but I feel sick right now... > > Godspeed, Chris. > > ________________________________ > > Sent: Mon 6/19/2006 7:02 PM > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> > > Tragically, we have lost one of the RV families best this past weekend, Chris Good of West Bend, Wisconsin. > > We will celebrate Chris' life on Saturday June 24. > Always sad to hear. The NTSB prelim show a landing accident with another RV. Jerry


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    Time: 08:58:03 PM PST US
    From: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Tragic lose
    --> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net> Chris was flying as part of a formation, http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=58&ArticleID=18614&TM=60132.51 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0606190134jun19,1,1275023.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed Chris will be sorely missed!! > What happened?? Chris was the first RV'er I ever met in person. Met me for a ride without knowing me (didn't go b/c the field went IFR). He is well known in these parts. > > I didn't know him well, but I feel sick right now... > > Godspeed, Chris. > > ________________________________ > > Sent: Mon 6/19/2006 7:02 PM > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> > > Tragically, we have lost one of the RV families best this past weekend, Chris Good of West Bend, Wisconsin. > > We will celebrate Chris' life on Saturday June 24. > > Visitation 2:00 PM Central > Mass 4:00 PM > St. James Episcopal Church > 148 South 8th Street > West Bend, Wisconsin > Church: 262 334 4242 > > Dick Sipp > > > =================================== > > =================================== > > =================================== > =================================== > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, '227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. --------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 09:44:43 PM PST US
    From: Hans Conser <hansconser@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tragic loss
    --> RV-List message posted by: Hans Conser <hansconser@gmail.com> How sad this loss.


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    Time: 09:47:35 PM PST US
    From: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternator sense wire
    --> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net> The 12 volts was been maintained by the battery. the variation you saw was probably dependant on the charge of the battery... gil in Tucson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=41735#41735




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