---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/20/06: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:56 AM - FS ANR Headset (Kelly Patterson) 2. 07:02 AM - Re: Tragic lose (bertrv6@highstream.net) 3. 08:07 AM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=) 4. 08:07 AM - Good active noise canceling headset (Crosley, Rich) 5. 08:48 AM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Rob Prior (rv7)) 6. 09:02 AM - Re: Alternator sense wire (still not wired correctly) () 7. 10:09 AM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Mickey Coggins) 8. 10:45 AM - Re: Tragic loss (Chuck Weyant) 9. 11:30 AM - Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (Tedd McHenry) 10. 11:30 AM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (sarg314@comcast.net) 11. 11:37 AM - Re: Tragic loss (Darrell Reiley) 12. 11:56 AM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Eric Whiteside) 13. 01:47 PM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Rob Prior (rv7)) 14. 06:25 PM - Re: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (Mauri Morin) 15. 07:05 PM - Re: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (Tedd McHenry) 16. 08:43 PM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (John Jessen) 17. 08:43 PM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Darwin N. Barrie) 18. 08:44 PM - Re: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (Tedd McHenry) 19. 08:46 PM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Terry Watson) 20. 08:47 PM - Good active noise canceling headset (Crosley, Rich) 21. 08:47 PM - Re: Good active noise cancelling heaset (Reuven Silberman) 22. 09:17 PM - Re: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (David Burton) 23. 09:18 PM - Re: Good active noise canceling headset (Dan Ross) 24. 09:34 PM - Re: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday (G McNutt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:35 AM PST US From: "Kelly Patterson" Subject: RV-List: FS ANR Headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly Patterson" FYI - I also have a pair of the QFR headsets I flew during flight testing and was very happy with them. I was convinced to try the Clarity Aloft "in ear" headset and now love them. They work well in the AZ heat (110 today). So the QFR's are for sale to any RV lister who would enjoy a low cost ANR. Price is $225 shipped to you. These do not have the cell phone adaptor, but I have not found the need for one. Email me: kbob at cox dot net Kelly Patterson RV-6A N716K PHX, AZ 66 hours Time: 08:03:05 PM PST US --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" I have the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country's ($325 from Van's)... I love them... My buddy has Bose, and he likes them too... -Bill www.rv8a.com ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:22 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:32 AM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Tragic lose --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Quoting Jerry Springer : > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > > Folbrecht, Paul wrote: > > What happened?? Chris was the first RV'er I ever met in person. Met me > for a ride without knowing me (didn't go b/c the field went IFR). He is well > known in these parts. > > > > I didn't know him well, but I feel sick right now... > > > > Godspeed, Chris. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Sent: Mon 6/19/2006 7:02 PM > > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" > > > > Tragically, we have lost one of the RV families best this past weekend, > Chris Good of West Bend, Wisconsin. > > > > We will celebrate Chris' life on Saturday June 24. > > > Always sad to hear. The NTSB prelim show a landing accident with another RV. > > Jerry > dOES ANY ONE KNOW THE CAUSE OF THIS TRAGEDY? I MET HIM IN OSKOSH AND HE WAS GREAT HELP, THRU THE INTERNET. HE HAD ONE OF THE BEST CONSTRUCTION WEB PAGE I EVER SAW. HE WAS CERTAINLY ONE VERY NICE PERSON. I FEEL LIKE THE REST, SHOCK AT THE NEWS.. BERT RV6A > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:36 AM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= Subject: RE: RV-List: Good active noise cancelling heaset --> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= I new I could count on you people to get me thinking straight. The bed argument wins - one buys a bed every 20+ years, and spends a lot of time in them - added to that is the fact that there is a strong argument as to Bose's good mechanical solidity + the superb sound... I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and dish out the 2K$ for a couple of sets. Thanks guys Michele - RV8 fuselage - France PS - We had our 3rd fly-in early June - out at La Baule by the Atlantic Ocean - 41 RVs turned out (UK biggest contingent - they are buying France) - 110+ stayed for dinner Saturday night - it was a memorable event. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill VonDane Sent: mardi 20 juin 2006 05:01 --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" I have the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country's ($325 from Van's)... I love them... My buddy has Bose, and he likes them too... -Bill www.rv8a.com ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:22 PM --> RV-List message posted by: Sherman Butler I found the audio quality of the Bose to be superior. I have a hearing loss that is getting worse with time (age) that background noise interferes with my ability to hear, and the Lightspeeds were not good enough. I was also tired of sending them back for repair. Paul Besing wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing This comes up a few times a year...I'll chime in again. Bose, Bose, Bose. My comfort, hearing, and all around flight enjoyment make the headset worth every stinkin penny. Have been flying with one pair for 5 years now, 1000 hours, including flight instructing several flights/day in the summer, with no problems. I'm sure you'll hear how great the customer service is for lightspeed, and how "every time" they send them back they come back quickly, no charge, new earcups, etc....the point is, they have to be sent back!! My Bose have taken a beating, and have never had to go back. Spend the money now...when it's comfort, it's worth it. Do not archive Sherman Butler RV-7a Wings Idaho Falls --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:36 AM PST US From: "Crosley, Rich" Subject: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" If I was buying new headsets I'd take a long look at the Bose Quiet Comfort 2 modification. My son, an airline pilot, turned me on to the setup. Evidently a lot of airline types are buying the headsets, my son bought one. The Bose Quiet Comfort 2 is the headset folks wear as passengers on airlines to ANR out the noise and play music. This company, web site below, has added a modification to transmit. It just plugs in and is a very neat mod. Bose is not happy but until they sue him out of business it is a great headset. Very well made. I have nothing to do with either company, just thought it was cool deal. http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html third write up down http://www.uflymike.com/ Rich Crosley RV-8, N948RC ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:28 AM PST US From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" I let the conversation go for a couple of days, but nobody has posted a link to it so i'll toot my own horn here and post a link to my article on noise-cancelling headsets: http://www.vansairforce.org/misc/headsets/ It's from May 2002, so it's a little dated given the new technology that's available. But I know many people still flying with the headset we recommended after the test, and they're still happy with it. Unfortunately we couldn't get a BOSE to test alongside the other headsets. We emailed and called, but BOSE never once replied to our requests for a loaner (not even to say "no"). -Rob ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:10 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Re: Alternator sense wire (still not wired correctly) --> RV-List message posted by: Dale: Your alternator is still not wired correctly. I am not sure how you have your alternator wired or what alternator you have, BUT if it has a sense wire it should be wired direct to the POS side of the battery, direct, not to the output of the alternator. The common short cut but wrong. Wire goes from POS battery terminal with a 1 to 5 amp in-line fuse w/ a dedicated wire (about 18 gage) to the sense terminal on the alternator. This is the way it was designed for the application it was originally intended, a car. You may see another 0.1-0.3 volt increase in voltage and further stability. Who ever told you to JUMP the sense wire direct to the output or B-lead (battery lead) is cheating. It works but is NOT the proper way to do it. If they wanted you to just jump the sense wire they would have just jumped it internally and forgot the sense wire all together. Trust ME. Follow the recommend wiring per the alternator and the original application. I also recommend if you have a warning light you wire that in as well. Write me with the model number of the alternator and I see if I can get you a proper wire diagram. Here are generic wiring diagrams. http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h8.pdf This is a pfd file. The diagram on the first page shows the proper wiring. The single wavy line is a fuse and the dual wavy line is a fusible link. Write me if you have questions. THERE is a REASON to wire it thus way. Don't BE smarter than the engineers that designed the system. Cheers George >From: "Dale Walter" > >Good morning, >I read about this (connecting a wire from sense pin to >output post) recently and-knew mine was not there. >My voltage had usually been between 13 and 14 volts >but occasionally dropped to 12.2 or up to 15.9. So >Saturday I connected the sense wire. On the first 3 >flights short flights the voltage has been much more >stable; 13.0 to 14.1. Never saw more than 14.1. >I plugged a $15 battery monitor from Walmart to my >cig lighter to back up the reading from my Grand Rapids >EIS voltmeter. Alternator is the common one from a >Japanese vehicle. Thanks to those who brought up this >issue recently. My question is; can anyone explain >why the voltage did not run up much higher before I >had a sense wire connected? > >Thanks, Dale Walter RV6a 618 hrs --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:36 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > If I was buying new headsets I'd take a long look at the Bose Quiet Comfort > 2 modification. My son, an airline pilot, turned me on to the setup. > Evidently a lot of airline types are buying the headsets, my son bought one. > The Bose Quiet Comfort 2 is the headset folks wear as passengers on airlines > to ANR out the noise and play music. This company, web site below, has > added a modification to transmit. It just plugs in and is a very neat mod. > Bose is not happy but until they sue him out of business it is a great > headset. Very well made. I have nothing to do with either company, just > thought it was cool deal. > > > http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html > third write up down > > http://www.uflymike.com/ Gotta love it! That looks like a really clever solution. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:32 AM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: Re: RV-List: Tragic loss --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" What loss? do not archive > How sad this loss. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:52 AM PST US From: Tedd McHenry Subject: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry Just a reminder that the Langley, BC fly-in is Saturday, June 4, 2005. This is the annual fly-in of the Western Canada Wing. Langley, BC, is about 20 nm north of Bellingham, WA. We generally have a good turnout of RVs from all over BC, and a good contingent from the U.S., too. Details are on our web page, http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/ For U.S. visitors, the Home Wing web page has all the information you need on border crossing procedures. http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/ I hope lots of RV-Listers can make it. --- Tedd McHenry Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing www.vansairforce.org tedd@vansairforce.org ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:53 AM PST US From: sarg314@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314@comcast.net Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge across the top of the head is very thin. I find that an RV-6A has little headroom if you try to sit as high as I want to (which is high). Does any one who is using the Peltors care to express an opinion on these? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A, instruments ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:36 AM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: Re: RV-List: Tragic loss --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=58&ArticleID=18614&TM=60132.51 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0606190134jun19,1,1275023.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed --- Chuck Weyant wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" > > > What loss? > do not archive > > > How sad this loss. > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:57 AM PST US From: "Eric Whiteside" Subject: RE: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" I have used Peltors for a few years. Originally to get better head-canopy clearance in my RV4. I also find them more comfortable than the DC style head bands - less head squeeze. However due to the lower earcup pressure, the ear seals let a little more noise leak through. It has not been enough to bother me. The Oregon Aero Softseals are a worthwhile improvement. I installed the Headsets Inc ANR conversion in one of my older Peltors and found it worth the cost/effort. I sometimes fly in a friend's M20R Mooney with Bose ANR headsets. I observe better sound quality and ANR effectiveness with the Bose, but not enough to me to be worth triple the cost. Headsets are a very personal preference item. Arrange to try them in the environment in which you will be using them before committing, or get a no questions asked return commitment. Eric Whiteside, RV6 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sarg314@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:30 PM --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314@comcast.net Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge across the top of the head is very thin. I find that an RV-6A has little headroom if you try to sit as high as I want to (which is high). Does any one who is using the Peltors care to express an opinion on these? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A, instruments ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:34 PM PST US From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" On 11:29:39 2006-06-20 sarg314@comcast.net wrote: > Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models > which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge > across the top of the head is very thin. For what it's worth, the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country (now called the QFRXCc) also has a very thin headband, and it was the winner in the review I posted earlier today. -Rob ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:38 PM PST US From: "Mauri Morin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: "Mauri Morin" Tedd, Since this is June 20, 2006; did we miss it? Mauri Morin Polson, MT RV-8 N808M (reserved) C180 N2125Z Flying SEMPER FI --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry Just a reminder that the Langley, BC fly-in is Saturday, June 4, 2005. This is the annual fly-in of the Western Canada Wing. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:39 PM PST US From: Tedd McHenry Subject: Re: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry Sorry, that should have been June 24, i.e., this coming Saturday. Sorry for the confusion. --- Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC, Canada ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:10 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Good active noise cancelling heaset --> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" There are many personal choices in flying, and this is certainly one of them. I have a pair of DC's that I converted to noise cancelling and am happy with them. I also purchase (but then sent back) the Bose. I felt that the Bose were much more comfortable and did a great job, but not better than the DC's for the type and frequency of flying I am currently doing. I am flying Cessna's (172, 182) during the time I'm building the RV-10. My flights are not that long, given that I'm renting. When I get the RV-10 done, I will spring for the Bose. Why? Because they are very comfortable, and I plan on flying long distances when comfort matters. The DC's conversions are a great value and work just fine, but the comfort level is not that high. Are the Bose worth $400 more for comfort? I spend $120 per hour flying puddle jumping C172s. I try to stay current while building, and that means 4 to 5 hours a month. That's around $500 right there. I'm building a $120,000 or more airplane designed as a magic carpet to all sorts of destinations, if I can afford fuel by the time I get it done. There are $400 worth of decisions on that airplane it seems almost daily. I'm not saying that cost is not an issue (it is!), I just want to put it into perspective. Cost is an issue, but I could easily bag a month of flying and get the Bose if it's worth that much to have the comfort. It's all in how you value the end product. Are they better than my current DC's? In noise reduction, probably, but not that I can really tell. Are they more comfortable and worth the lack of feeling my head is compressed after 3 hours? Absolutely. And that's why the DC's will be replaced when I'm finally doing the type of flying that makes them valuable. Like I said, this is a very personal decision. You have 30 days to try them out. No questions asked return policy, which is one part of why they are so expensive. And, yes, Bose does price their products for large margins and prestige. It's the game they're in. Their audio products are sold on that notion of prestige and additionally on style and simplicity, not because they are sonically better. My sound system outperforms a top of the line Bose system any day of the week, costs less, but does not carry the immediate brand recognition. They are way over priced....unless there is something that they have you are willing to pay the money for. There will always be one or two products dealing on the upper end of the pricing spread. They have to have something that keeps them there. Up to you to decide what that something is for you and whether or not you'll bite. Good luck! John Jessen -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michle Delsol Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:23 AM --> RV-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= --> Listers, I am trying to decide upon a good ANR or whatever headset. I could always go for the Bose X which is the most expensive ($995) and probably the best however when I see all those Bose X full page ads in practically all magazines, and this includes French magazines, got me thinking. I feel I would be paying 400$ to finance all the ads (if not more) and 600$ for the headset. I figure that there should be a headset out there probably just as good but for which the advertising budget is a lot lower, hence available at a much lower price. Anyone care to comment??? Please. Michele RV8 Fuselage - France ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:17 PM PST US From: "Darwin N. Barrie" Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise cancelling heaset --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" I've commented on this a few times. I have the Clarity Aloft headset. This is the ear bud type that is extremely light and comfortable. The sound performance is excellent. I had to turn all of my radios down after going to this style. I like wearing a straw hat when flying. This wouldn't be possible with a conventional headset. Now with the extreme AZ heat no more sweat running out from the bottom of the ear muff style headset. Give these a look. They have a 30 day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose. Once you fly with these for a few hours, you won't be sending them back. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RV-7 N717EE ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:49 PM PST US From: Tedd McHenry Subject: Re: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry My apologies, that date should have been Saturday, June 24, 2006! --- Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC, Canada ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:58 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Another advantage I see for the QFRXC for single seat or tandem airplanes is that it is reversible so the mike and cord can be on either the left or right side so you can keep everything on the right side assuming you enter the airplane from the left. Side by side pilots might like to have one on the left, the other on the right too. Terry --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" On 11:29:39 2006-06-20 sarg314@comcast.net wrote: > Since we're disussing headsets, I'm looking at the Peltor ANR models > which Van's sells (at a very good price), mostly because the bridge > across the top of the head is very thin. For what it's worth, the Lightspeed QFR Cross Country (now called the QFRXCc) also has a very thin headband, and it was the winner in the review I posted earlier today. -Rob ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:36 PM PST US From: "Crosley, Rich" Subject: RV-List: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" If I was buying new headsets I'd take a long look at the Bose Quiet Comfort 2 modification. My son, an airline pilot, turned me on to the setup. Evidently a lot of airline types are buying the headsets, my son bought one. The Bose Quiet Comfort 2 is the headset folks wear as passengers on airlines to ANR out the noise and play music. This company, web site below, has added a modification to transmit. It just plugs in and is a very neat mod. Bose is not happy but until they sue him out of business it is a great headset. Very well made. I have nothing to do with either company, just thought it was cool deal. http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/newproducts/products13.html third write up down http://www.uflymike.com/ Rich Crosley RV-8, N948RC ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:49 PM PST US From: Reuven Silberman Subject: Re: RV-List: Good active noise cancelling heaset --> RV-List message posted by: Reuven Silberman As a long time user of Lightspeed headsets let me put in my 2cents. As one who wishes to protect the hearing I have left (read old guy) I have bought high end Lightspeeds and have personally owned 3 sets. The first ones - unfortunately I do not remember their model designation - were purchased when Lightspeed had a special for CFI's. When they came out with the current "G" models they offered to take back the old model as a trade-in and sell me a new one for 1/2 price and I purchased the 30-3Gs. I also have a pair Lightspeed QFR ANR's as the headband is smaller and they fit me when flying a close to canopy airplane such as the RV or Lancair series. I made the mistake of letting my wife and then my sister use the 30-3G's and they also now own a pair. What makes Lightspeed TRULY great is their customer service. I have had occasions where I have had to send one of the headsets back to Lightspeed for service and they are always courteous, helpful and performed the work for free. Since I use my headsets almost daily they get a lot of use and occasionally a mike will go out or the ANR board will get weak. I dont consider this unusual due to what I consider high useage. Some friends with Bose have sent theirs in for service and they always seem to get charged. The Lightspeeds have been extreamly comfortable even when worn for long periods of time on extended cross-countries. I am awaiting Lightspeeds newest headset model as I fully intend to trade-up when they come out. PS; I am not associated with Lightspeed in any way other than a very satisfied customer. Reuven Silberman 7A N7WT Joseph Larson wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson Ah, well, it comes down to how much does $1700 (the price savings for 2 headsets) mean do you. For some folks, $1700 isn't much. For others, it's a lot. I can put up with some discomfort after a couple of hours of flight if it means I can actually afford to fly. -J PS: Computer geek, will code for flight time. do not archive On Jun 19, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Paul Besing wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing > > >> When I bought the Lightspeeds, Bose was publishing >> better active/ >> passive noise suppression by a total of only 1 or 2 >> dB. I felt the >> very minor difference this suggested was no where >> near worth paying >> 3-4 times as much. >> >> -J >> > > There is no argument that the quality of the ANR on > the lightspeed is good as the Bose. I think the big > difference between the lightspeed and Bose is quality > of the headset frames, and of course comfort. > Personally, the comfort factor is worth the money > IMHO. You forget you are wearing them in about 2 > minutes. > > Paul Besing "No pressure, no diamonds". ~Thomas Carlyle ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:59 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RE: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" June 24th of course. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tedd McHenry Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:27 AM --> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry Just a reminder that the Langley, BC fly-in is Saturday, June 4, 2005. This is the annual fly-in of the Western Canada Wing. Langley, BC, is about 20 nm north of Bellingham, WA. We generally have a good turnout of RVs from all over BC, and a good contingent from the U.S., too. Details are on our web page, http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/ For U.S. visitors, the Home Wing web page has all the information you need on border crossing procedures. http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/ I hope lots of RV-Listers can make it. --- Tedd McHenry Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing www.vansairforce.org tedd@vansairforce.org ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:01 PM PST US From: "Dan Ross" Subject: RV-List: Re: Good active noise canceling headset --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Ross" Guys: I had not heard anything but good reports until recently about Bose, except the price of course. Here is one that a friend of mine related about his experience with Bose customer service. He managed to get his RV-9A nose wheel to depart the fix on landing and down it went, hung vertical on it's nose for a few seconds, then fell over on it's back. My buddy was not hurt except for a cut on his scalp caused by the headset headband that broke and caused the injury. The only thing wrong with the Bose was a broken headband. He asked Bose to repair it and they refused, he asked for the parts to repair it himself again they refused. Bose's best offer was to sell him a new headset at wholesale. He likes the product but now has reservations about recommending them to friends because of customer service. Just one man's story about an otherwise good product with indifferent customer service. Dan ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:25 PM PST US From: G McNutt Subject: Re: RV-List: Langley (BC) Fly-in This Saturday --> RV-List message posted by: G McNutt Hi Tedd Will be doing the fly-past on Saturday but I have had some family issues crop up that require my attention in the afternoon so would like to bow out of the RV forum if you have enough coverage. George McNutt