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1. 07:21 AM - Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo (Charles Heathco)
2. 07:46 AM - Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo (Ken Arnold)
3. 08:24 AM - Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo (Ken Arnold)
4. 08:24 AM - Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo (Darrell Reiley)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo (William Gill)
6. 03:49 PM - NMEA out question (Paul Besing)
7. 04:04 PM - Van's newest nose wheel fork (N67BT@aol.com)
8. 04:26 PM - Re: NMEA out question (linn Walters)
9. 06:15 PM - Re: Van's newest nose wheel fork (Richard E. Tasker)
10. 06:57 PM - Re: Van's newest nose wheel fork (N67BT@aol.com)
11. 07:11 PM - Re: NMEA out question (Stein Bruch)
12. 08:04 PM - tools for want (Michael B.)
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| Subject: | Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo |
Was just on Ph with sis in Mo and she told me about this, no details
othere than several injured, must have gone into people on ground. kind
of plane unknown. Anybody in the area with some details>? Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo |
Hi List,
Per KC Star, two fatalities. Dentists from Denver CO area in a Piper
Saratoga. Authorities still investigating cause. Names not listed in
version I read.
Ken Arnold
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From: Charles Heathco
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo
Was just on Ph with sis in Mo and she told me about this, no details
othere than several injured, must have gone into people on ground. kind
of plane unknown. Anybody in the area with some details>? Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo |
Hi,
Look at 6/14/2006 Denver Post. The pilot purchased the Saratoga 4
months ago. Apparently, an explosion blew the left wing off just south
of KCI airport.
Ken
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From: Ken Arnold
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo
Hi List,
Per KC Star, two fatalities. Dentists from Denver CO area in a Piper
Saratoga. Authorities still investigating cause. Names not listed in
version I read.
Ken Arnold
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From: Charles Heathco
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo
Was just on Ph with sis in Mo and she told me about this, no details
othere than several injured, must have gone into people on ground. kind
of plane unknown. Anybody in the area with some details>? Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/kmbc/20060624/lo_kmbc/9421340
--- Charles Heathco <cheathco@cox.net> wrote:
> Was just on Ph with sis in Mo and she told me about
> this, no details othere than several injured, must
> have gone into people on ground. kind of plane
> unknown. Anybody in the area with some details>?
> Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Lt plane crash in Lees Sumit Mo |
One fatality. The plane was a Cricri
Cri-Cri, the world's smallest twin-engine plane
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Heathco
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:14 AM
Was just on Ph with sis in Mo and she told me about this, no details
othere than several injured, must have gone into people on ground. kind
of plane unknown. Anybody in the area with some details>? Charlie
Heathco
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| Subject: | NMEA out question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
I've got a Garmin 396 and I'm hooking up my Trio. The
Trio calls for a "signal ground" and the Serial input.
My GPS only has an output but no signal ground.
Is a "signal ground" the same thing as an airframe
ground? The diagram has two types of grounds, but the
way it is drawn assumes the GPS has a ground and a
serial output.
Paul Besing
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| Subject: | Van's newest nose wheel fork |
Tri gear RVers,
I just finished changing out my original nose wheel fork for the smaller
version from Van's. I will be operating off of a somewhat uneven strip so I
wanted more ground clearance. Also, I'm using a heavy engine and this
conversion will be about 3 pounds lighter than the old setup. For my situation,
it
was well worth the expense and effort.
A comparison photo is posted on my web site for you interested nose dragger
types.
http://users.aol.com/n67bt (scroll down to fifth photo)
Bob Trumpfheller
RV7A N67BT Not yet flying
Preparation for paint
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| Subject: | Re: NMEA out question |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Paul Besing wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
>
>I've got a Garmin 396 and I'm hooking up my Trio. The
>Trio calls for a "signal ground" and the Serial input.
> My GPS only has an output but no signal ground.
>
>Is a "signal ground" the same thing as an airframe
>ground? The diagram has two types of grounds, but the
>way it is drawn assumes the GPS has a ground and a
>serial output.
>
>Paul Besing
>
Grounds (and grounding) can really be confusing. Sometimes, chassis
ground (or airframe ground) and signal ground are the same .......
internally to the device. However, some communications pairs are
floating above ground ...... and are usually designated OUT+ and OUT-
(or IN+ and IN- etc.) ...... or something showing some polarity.
That's not to say that out- isn't the same as GND, CHASSIS GROUND, or
SIGNAL GROUND.
Having said all that, if you only have one wire and it's labelled SERIAL
OUT, you can be assured that the airframe ground is the same as SIGNAL
GROUND.
It's the little subtle things like this that make wiring your own panel
something of a nightmare. I'd peruse the Aeroelectric web site and their
lists for electrical stuff.
Linn
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Van's newest nose wheel fork |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
How did you order this?: I looked at Vans web site and see only one
nose fork listed. Is the smaller one the only one they sell now? What
was required to use the new fork? Just machining of the nose gear leg?
Do all the other parts work as is? It looks like all they did is cut an
inch off the bottom of the leg attachment part and re-taper the arms.
I wouldn't mind the extra clearance and three pounds less is always good!
Dick Tasker
N67BT@aol.com wrote:
> Tri gear RVers,
>
> I just finished changing out my original nose wheel fork for the
> smaller version from Van's. I will be operating off of a somewhat
> uneven strip so I wanted more ground clearance. Also, I'm using a
> heavy engine and this conversion will be about 3 pounds lighter than
> the old setup. For my situation, it was well worth the expense and
> effort.
>
> A comparison photo is posted on my web site for you interested nose
> dragger types.
>
> http://users.aol.com/n67bt (scroll down to fifth photo)
>
> Bob Trumpfheller
> RV7A N67BT Not yet flying
> Preparation for paint
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Van's newest nose wheel fork |
I called Van's to order the new style fork as it was not listed on their
parts page. As I recall the number is the same as the old one except for an
added dash something. The price was the same. I'm fairly sure that the new
kits come with the new fork - better check though. The new fork matches up with
everything, including the fairing attachment, except that the nose gear leg
sticks down 1" too far and needs to be hacked off and rethreaded.
Bob Trumpfheller
In a message dated 6/24/2006 7:16:41 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
retasker@optonline.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
How did you order this?: I looked at Vans web site and see only one
nose fork listed. Is the smaller one the only one they sell now? What
was required to use the new fork? Just machining of the nose gear leg?
Do all the other parts work as is? It looks like all they did is cut an
inch off the bottom of the leg attachment part and re-taper the arms.
I wouldn't mind the extra clearance and three pounds less is always good!
Dick Tasker
N67BT@aol.com wrote:
> Tri gear RVers,
>
> I just finished changing out my original nose wheel fork for the
> smaller version from Van's. I will be operating off of a somewhat
> uneven strip so I wanted more ground clearance. Also, I'm using a
> heavy engine and this conversion will be about 3 pounds lighter than
> the old setup. For my situation, it was well worth the expense and
> effort.
>
> A comparison photo is posted on my web site for you interested nose
> dragger types.
>
> http://users.aol.com/n67bt (scroll down to fifth photo)
>
> Bob Trumpfheller
> RV7A N67BT Not yet flying
> Preparation for paint
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| Subject: | NMEA out question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Hi Paul,
In cases like the one below, just ignore it (the ground that is)...it'll
work just fine. Some GPS's run RS-232's in pairs with a ground along each
RS-232 signal, but most handhelds do not. If you're using one of our
plug/play harnesses there should only be one wire for the GPS...just hook
that one up. Just an FYI, but when hooking tranponders to EFIS's like
Dynon's and GRT's you'll likely see the same issue - and use the same
method.
Cheers,
Stein.
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Besing
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:42 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
I've got a Garmin 396 and I'm hooking up my Trio. The
Trio calls for a "signal ground" and the Serial input.
My GPS only has an output but no signal ground.
Is a "signal ground" the same thing as an airframe
ground? The diagram has two types of grounds, but the
way it is drawn assumes the GPS has a ground and a
serial output.
Paul Besing
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael B." <brewtoo@yyhmail.com>
Gentlemen,
I'm looking for a tool set like the Avery or Cleaveland RV sets. Anything available?
Thanks,
Michael
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