---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/29/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:34 AM - Rv 8 Cowls (Trevor Mills) 2. 03:17 AM - Re: N557XW Flies (shirleyh) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: N557XW Flies (Charles Rowbotham) 4. 07:40 AM - sign vinyl (Frazier, Vincent A) 5. 07:47 AM - Re: N557XW Flies (Dave Mader) 6. 08:16 AM - Oshkosh BBQ (Bob Collins) 7. 08:26 AM - Re: N557XW Flies (Tony Marshall) 8. 08:48 AM - Re: Introducing a new builder (Tim Bryan) 9. 08:48 AM - Re: Vinyl Pinstriping (Jim Duckett) 10. 11:06 AM - Re: N557XW Flies (joelrhaynes@aol.com) 11. 02:53 PM - Re: N557XW Flies (Hans Conser) 12. 04:04 PM - Re: Tite-seal (Szantho B. Szantho) 13. 06:58 PM - RV9A Elevator Skin Cracks (Mike Holland) 14. 09:31 PM - EFIS () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:37 AM PST US From: "Trevor Mills" Subject: RV-List: Rv 8 Cowls If anyone in the LA area would like a set of cowls for an RV8/IO360 going cheap !! please let me know. Trevor Mills 80605 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:01 AM PST US From: "shirleyh" Subject: RV-List: Re: N557XW Flies --> RV-List message posted by: "shirleyh" Congratulations, Joel - isn't it a great feeling?! Regarding the cooling - I have an 0-360 in my recently completed RV6 - operating in the warmth of Western Australia. I'm not having any oil cooling problems at the moment - rather the opposite! I installed a larger oil cooler than standard because I expected to be operating in high temps. Now that winter is here I've had to tape over about a third of the cooler to keep temps in the green. What size oil cooler have you installed? Shirley Harding RV6 VH ASF Flying 10 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=43698#43698 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:50 AM PST US From: "Charles Rowbotham" Subject: RE: RV-List: N557XW Flies --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" Joel, CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!! Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: joelrhaynes@aol.com >Subject: RV-List: N557XW Flies >Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:25:19 -0400 > > >This morning I proved the point that large sums of cash can make 1070 lbs. >of aluminum, fiber glass and steel fly under its own power. She handled >well and a small amount of aileron trim allowed her to fly hands-off. >Only 39.5 Phase I hours to go before Oshkosh. > >Joel Haynes >Bozeman, MT >N557XW Flyin' and Grinnin' ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:50 AM PST US From: "Frazier, Vincent A" Subject: RV-List: sign vinyl Tony, I have a small (very small) sign shop. I do mostly church signs, car decals, etc. but I can help with N numbers or other vinyl signage needs for your bird. If you just need pinstriping... automotive paint supply stores have huge selections. Vince Frazier 3965 Caborn Road Mount Vernon, IN 47620 812-464-1839 work 812-985-7309 home F-1H Rocket, N540VF http://vincesrocket.com/airplane%20junk.html ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:21 AM PST US From: "Dave Mader" Subject: RE: RV-List: N557XW Flies Joel, Congratulations on your first flight! Just for your info or anybody else in your area, there is a DAR that lives in Greybull, Wyo. I believe he is the only one in the state of Wyo. But he would be much closer than Colo. His name is Tim Mikus and I'm sure he's in the book;. I had him do my inspection in Jan. and he is a heck of a nice guy and did a good job, I feel. I also have an RV-6 with 0-360 and Sensenich. My only complaint is the fact the I can turn it almost 2900 rpm at wide open throttle. The engine was built up by a guy in Colo. And he "tweaked" it a little bit. Higher comp pistons, etc. I think I will leave it as is so I don't loose my climb performance. Don't know what to tell you as far as temps go, other than 400 is not bad considering a new engine and mineral oil. As far as oil temp., maybe the larger Stewart Warner cooler? They seem to help most guys when they go to it. Kind of pricey though. Anyway, congrats and have fun. Stop in Sheridan sometime and give me a call. Dave Mader 674-7027 davemader@bresnan.net _____ [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of joelrhaynes@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:25 AM AB-DAR George Hanna flew from Colorado to Bozeman in is RV-6 yesterday to do the inspection on my 7A (He is the closest DAR to Montana). Believe it or not the FSDO in Helena needed 3-6 months to do my inspection. After 5 years and 2 months of building, head scratching and the occasional cursing I said, "Forget that!" So I hired George to fly up and do the deed. After two hours of poring over the airplane he finally gave up trying to find something wrong. This morning I proved the point that large sums of cash can make 1070 lbs. of aluminum, fiber glass and steel fly under its own power. She handled well and a small amount of aileron trim allowed her to fly hands-off. I have some high oil temps (235) so I definitely need to work on directing better air flow through the cooler. CHT's stabilized around 400 which is also a little on the high side but it is a new engine running straight mineral oil. The airplane is equiped with an 0-360-A2A from AeroSport Power and an 85 inch pitch Sensenich cruise prop. Despite the warm temps and 5000 ft field elevation, takeoff performance with the cruise prop was no problem. I know I need to run it hard the first few hours to seat the rings but because of the higher temps I had throttled back to 2200 to 2300 and was still showing 140 kts on the GPS without gear leg fairings or wheel pants. After some tweaking under the cowling I'll see if I can run it harder and still keep the temps reasonable. Any advice on CHT and oil temp contro l is welcome. Only 39.5 Phase I hours to go before Oshkosh. Joel Haynes Bozeman, MT N557XW Flyin' and Grinnin' _____ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:49 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RV-List: Oshkosh BBQ --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" Just a final invitation to RVers to the 2006 RV BBQ at Oshkosh. It'll be Wednesday the 26th starting at 6 p.m. in Camp Scholler. If you're interested, please register in advance. We want to get a head count so we can figure out how much food to buy. "Walk ins" are still welcome, but it would be easier if we had a fairly accurate count. Details (especially some important ones for folks not staying in Camp Scholler) available here (http://home.comcast.net/~bcollinsrv7a/eaa/2006bbq.html). Bring chairs! Also it would be great if folks would bring a salad or dessert to share. -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=43750#43750 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:00 AM PST US From: "Tony Marshall" Subject: Re: RV-List: N557XW Flies Congratulations Joel, Great to have another flying RV in Montana. If, when OSH time rolls around, you are ready to go, let me know. It would be fun to have a small gaggle of RVs from the West parade out there together. tony marshall rv6 polson, mt ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Mader To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:45 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: N557XW Flies Joel, Congratulations on your first flight! Just for your info or anybody else in your area, there is a DAR that lives in Greybull, Wyo. I believe he is the only one in the state of Wyo. But he would be much closer than Colo. His name is Tim Mikus and I'm sure he's in the book;. I had him do my inspection in Jan. and he is a heck of a nice guy and did a good job, I feel. I also have an RV-6 with 0-360 and Sensenich. My only complaint is the fact the I can turn it almost 2900 rpm at wide open throttle. The engine was built up by a guy in Colo. And he "tweaked" it a little bit. Higher comp pistons, etc. I think I will leave it as is so I don't loose my climb performance. Don't know what to tell you as far as temps go, other than 400 is not bad considering a new engine and mineral oil. As far as oil temp., maybe the larger Stewart Warner cooler? They seem to help most guys when they go to it. Kind of pricey though. Anyway, congrats and have fun. Stop in Sheridan sometime and give me a call. Dave Mader 674-7027 davemader@bresnan.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of joelrhaynes@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:25 AM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: N557XW Flies AB-DAR George Hanna flew from Colorado to Bozeman in is RV-6 yesterday to do the inspection on my 7A (He is the closest DAR to Montana). Believe it or not the FSDO in Helena needed 3-6 months to do my inspection. After 5 years and 2 months of building, head scratching and the occasional cursing I said, "Forget that!" So I hired George to fly up and do the deed. After two hours of poring over the airplane he finally gave up trying to find something wrong. This morning I proved the point that large sums of cash can make 1070 lbs. of aluminum, fiber glass and steel fly under its own power. She handled well and a small amount of aileron trim allowed her to fly hands-off. I have some high oil temps (235) so I definitely need to work on directing better air flow through the cooler. CHT's stabilized around 400 which is also a little on the high side but it is a new engine running straight mineral oil. The airplane is equiped with an 0-360-A2A from AeroSport Power and an 85 inch pitch Sensenich cruise prop. Despite the warm temps and 5000 ft field elevation, takeoff performance with the cruise prop was no problem. I know I need to run it hard the first few hours to seat the rings but because of the higher temps I had throttled back to 2200 to 2300 and was still showing 140 kts on the GPS without gear leg fairings or wheel pants. After some tweaking under the cowling I'll see if I can run it harder and still keep the temps reasonable. Any advice on CHT and oil temp contro l is welcome. Only 39.5 Phase I hours to go before Oshkosh. Joel Haynes Bozeman, MT N557XW Flyin' and Grinnin' ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:11 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: Re: RV-List: Introducing a new builder Nothing perverted about Gyros, I wish I had one to play with. Have fun building your RV, you will love it. And welcome to the group. Tim RV-6 -------Original Message------- Hello there list folk. I have just started building an RV-9A and have my web site is up. I welcome all comments and cautions. I'm presently work ing on my Horizontal Stabilizer and have built a gyrocopter before this proje ct. Yes, I know that gyros are considered a bit of a perversion but please k now I'm a fixed wing kind of guy with this one oddness... Michael Hudson Portland, Oregon www.N669RV.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:11 AM PST US From: "Jim Duckett" Subject: Re: RV-List: Vinyl Pinstriping Tony, The next time your in Missoula stop down at Carquest Automotive Refinsh Supply on Broadway. They have complete lines of both Prostripe and 3M stripping tapes. Bewteen the two lines you have about 200 colors to choose from. Most come in either 40' or 100' rolls. Jim Duckett RV-7A Sun River ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Marshall To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: RV-List: Vinyl Pinstriping Does anyone have a supply source for small quantities of vinyl pinstriping? By small quantities I mean 100 ft or so. I am looking for Avery colors. Thanks for any help. Tony Marshall RV6 Polson, MT ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:06:14 AM PST US From: joelrhaynes@aol.com Subject: RV-List: RE: N557XW Flies ...much safer for everyone? Not sure what you are implying but I have a complete flight test program mapped out that will be conducted in a SAFE manner. I have time to complete it before Oshkosh and will do so if no major surprises are encountered. Joel Haynes RV-7A 0.5 hours > You still have a lot of testing work to do during the next 39.5 hours > and if you are anything close to average, you will find some small set > backs as you progress through the testing. I hope you do not rush > through the 40 hours just putting on hours to just get r done. Review > the EAA materials and you will find lots of test flight stuff if you > need to take a look at it. Best wishes. ( There is always next year > for flying to O when it will be much safer for everyone.) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:27 PM PST US From: Hans Conser Subject: Re: RV-List: N557XW Flies Congratulations Joel, sorry I couldn't be there. I am available to help with oil cooler changes or any other help you may want. Hans > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > joelrhaynes@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:25 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: N557XW Flies > - > AB-DAR George Hanna flew from Colorado to Bozeman in is RV-6 yesterday > to do the inspection on my 7A (He is the closest DAR to Montana). > Believe it or not the FSDO in Helena needed 3-6-months to do my > inspection.- After 5 years and 2 months of building, head scratching > and the occasional cursing-I said, "Forget that!" So I hired George to > fly up and do the deed. -After two hours of poring over the airplane > he finally gave up trying to find-something wrong.- > - > This morning I proved the point that large sums of cash can make 1070 > lbs. of aluminum, fiber glass-and steel-fly under its own power.- She > handled well and a small amount of aileron trim allowed her to fly > hands-off.- I have some high oil temps-(235)-so I definitely need to > work on directing better air flow through the cooler.- CHT's > stabilized around 400 which is-also a little on the high side but it > is a new engine running straight mineral oil.- The airplane is equiped > with an 0-360-A2A from AeroSport Power and an 85 inch pitch Sensenich > cruise prop. Despite the warm temps and 5000 ft field elevation, > takeoff performance with the cruise prop-was no problem.- I know I > need to run it hard the first few hours to seat the rings-but because > of the higher temps I had throttled back to 2200 to 2300 and was still > showing 140 kts on the GPS without gear leg fairings or wheel pants.- > After some tweaking under the cowling I'll see-if I can run it harder > and still keep the temps reasonable.- Any advice on CHT and oil temp > contro l is welcome. > - > Only 39.5 Phase I hours to go before Oshkosh. > - > Joel Haynes > > Bozeman, MT > > N557XW Flyin' and Grinnin' > - > - > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:13 PM PST US From: "Szantho B. Szantho" Subject: RV-List: Re: Tite-seal Thanks guys for all the help on the titeseal. We sure have a great community. This morning we hung the engine on my RV9-A. Started about 10:30 and by 12:00 we were ready (also ready for the lunch; thanks to my wife it was very tasty). Now it feels like I am 75% done and 50% more to go. Below is a brief description of how we managed to do the job. Install the fittings for the oil pressure and oil cooler hoses. I used the medium weight tightseal. The installation of the oil cooler fitting between the magnetos was a bit tricky, but using a crowfoot wrench and an open end wrench it is manageable. We lifted the engine with the engine hoist and positioned it in front of the engine mount. Taking the advice of an experienced (16X) plane builder friend we started at the bottom two mounts. This was quite easy and I can see why he wanted to do it this way. If you start at the top it would be very difficult to get the bolts in at the bottom. There is not much room at the bottom. Once we put the bolts in we hand tightened the castle nuts and started on the top mounts. Looking toward the cockpit the right bolt went in relatively easy. The left bolt was an other matter. It took us about 15-20 minutes to get this bolt in. We had to move the engine until it finally lined up and we could put in the bolt part ways. For the rest we had to use slight persuasion with a rubber hammer. After this we tightened up the bolts one at a time and a little bit at a time until the mounts bottomed out. Put the cotter pins in and took some pictures. On the bottom bolts the cutter pins are quite tricky. You have to turn the bolts several times to install the pin and spread the legs. We also had to use 3 washers to get the proper cotter pin position under the nuts. Obviously we checked and double checked for the right bolts (the bottom is longer than the top because of the extra large washer). What a day!! This is why we build! John Szantho RV9-A Firewall Forward ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:13 PM PST US From: "Mike Holland" Subject: RV-List: RV9A Elevator Skin Cracks After 78 hours, the right top elevator skin of my RV9A has developed two, 1 - 2" cracks, that run parallel to the trailing edge. The cracks originate and are centered on the last stiffener rivet. Stop drilling appears to prevent extension. The engine is an O-320 with a Sensenich prop. How common is this problem? ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:03 PM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: EFIS Howdy fellow RV dudes and dudettes. My partner Gary and I are working on the fuselage of a RV-8A QB on an airpark called Alta Sierra located about 40nm north of Sacramento, CA. We are trying to come up with a panel design as we hope to buy an EFIS and the non Van's supplied instruments at Oshkosh next month. We have most of the panel sorted out, but are still considering two options for the EFIS - Blue Mountain and Grand Rapids Technology(GRT). We plan to get the engine monitoring feature on whichever EFIS we select. We will use the TruTrak Autopilot if we go with GRT, or the Blue Mountain's autopilot with their system. We have looked at their web sites and have a general understanding how their systems work, but we really need is feedback from folks who have installed and used them. We would appreciate any feedback, positive or negative, on the install and operation of these systems. Do you find them reliable? Does the company back their product? Quality of customer service? Quality and speed of problem resolution to include return to the vendor for repair and/or upgrade? Does the company meet projected dates for service, upgrades and revisions? Are their prices stable? I know, sooo many questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Obviously, we would love to hear real world experiences that you may have had with these new gadgets. Thanks, Jim Barrilleaux jbario@sbcglobal.net