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1. 05:04 AM - The TRUTH about MOGAS (glen matejcek)
2. 05:14 AM - Re: non-swiveling tail wheel (Alan Kritzman)
3. 07:24 AM - mag. check, only for those with EIS (Bert Murillo)
4. 08:03 AM - Re: non-swiveling tail wheel (Tim Bryan)
5. 08:03 AM - Re: non-swiveling tail wheel (Steve Glasgow)
6. 09:08 AM - Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
7. 10:37 AM - IFR Panel Considerations (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
8. 10:37 AM - Major new product announcement from Vans (czechsix@juno.com)
9. 11:00 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Gerry Filby)
10. 11:12 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Steve Eberhart)
11. 11:14 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Ron Lee)
12. 11:25 AM - Re: IFR Panel Considerations (Ron Lee)
13. 11:25 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Terry Watson)
14. 11:26 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Dave Saylor)
15. 11:31 AM - Re: IFR Panel Considerations (Tim Bryan)
16. 11:32 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_MS?=)
17. 12:06 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Dale Ensing)
18. 12:27 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (n223rv@wolflakeairport.net)
19. 12:27 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Jerry Springer)
20. 12:40 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Jim Sears)
21. 12:45 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Brian Kraut)
22. 12:59 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Mickey Coggins)
23. 01:51 PM - Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) (Ron Lee)
24. 01:51 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Rob Prior (rv7))
25. 02:07 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Tim Lewis)
26. 02:12 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (David Burton)
27. 02:15 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Walter Tondu)
28. 02:25 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Tim Lewis)
29. 02:30 PM - Re: IFR Panel Considerations (Paul Besing)
30. 02:57 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Paul Besing)
31. 03:00 PM - Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) (Steve Eberhart)
32. 03:18 PM - Re: IFR Panel Considerations (Ron Lee)
33. 03:25 PM - Re: IFR Panel Considerations (Ron Lee)
34. 03:37 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Greg@itmack)
35. 04:47 PM - Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) (Jim Sears)
36. 04:54 PM - Partnership Agreement (Jim Cimino)
37. 05:15 PM - Re: Partnership Agreement (Dale Ensing)
38. 05:15 PM - tailwheel (Wheeler North)
39. 05:23 PM - Tail wheel (Michael)
40. 05:28 PM - Re: Partnership Agreement (Jim Thorne)
41. 05:30 PM - Re: Jacking up an RV (Bob C.)
42. 05:58 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (JOHN STARN)
43. 06:13 PM - Slide canopy compass mounting (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
44. 06:57 PM - Re: Slide canopy compass mounting (SteinAir, Inc.)
45. 06:58 PM - Re: Jacking up an RV (Ed Holyoke)
46. 07:01 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
47. 07:45 PM - Re: Slide canopy compass mounting (Vanremog@aol.com)
48. 08:21 PM - Re: Tail wheel (Larry Bowen)
49. 09:09 PM - Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) (Steve Eberhart)
50. 09:25 PM - Re: Jacking up an RV (John Danielson)
51. 09:50 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Finn Lassen)
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| Subject: | The TRUTH about MOGAS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
HI Tim-
This is getting interesting and closer to answering my curiosity. What is
the "squish" you referred to?
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: non-swiveling tail wheel |
I has a couple issues with the tail wheel not locking in the first 50 hours on
my plane. When I called and talked to Van's about it they said don't use grease
use oil. So I took it apart, cleaned and polished the burrs and drilled a
small hole in the top washer. I now shoot a little LPS 2 into the hole every
10 hours or so and disassemble it at annual to clean and inspect for burrs. For
the last 300 hours it has been trouble free.
Alan Kritzman
RV-8 N8EM
Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue
On Jul 13, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Tim Bryan wrote:
> Yikes Curt,
>
> This doesn't paint a very pretty picture. Every 10 hours? That
> could be after every trip. My new one is supposed to be delivered
> tomorrow for a weekend install.
>
> Question for all the other tail wheelers. Are any of you using
> something other than Van's swivel tailwheel? Why? Are you happy
> with it?
>
> Thanks
> Tim
I have the standard Van's full swivel tailwheel. Once or maybe
twice, in 800 hours, it has failed to lock into the steering detent.
I think it was a bit of grit fouling it up, in my case.
Every 75 or 100 hours the steering gets a bit stiff and I have to
regrease it.
I admire the simplicity and economy of the device compared to what
Scotts puts out.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | mag. check, only for those with EIS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
HI ;
I have a question, for those with Grand rapid, EIS monitor...only.
When checking the mags, for preflight...I am receiving a -0- indication., when
turning key to L-Or Right mag..
Any ideas as to why this is happening? Yes I turn the small switch
to Left Mag.
(In my case is in the up Position) then I turn the key on the
Ignition switch to L.
then down to the R mag., and the key to R-Mag... in both instances, I
get a Zero
...Engine runs OK on both...
I have checked connection on Ignition switch, it seems all are tight etc..
Any suggestions, as to the next step?
Bert
rv6a
Do Not archive....
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| Subject: | Re: non-swiveling tail wheel |
Alan,
This sounds like a reasonable solution. Grease can tend to collect dust
and
become sticky. Oil would do the same thing but doesn't last as long. Gr
eat
idea.
Tim
-------Original Message-------
I has a couple issues with the tail wheel not locking in the first 50 hou
rs
on my plane. When I called and talked to Van's about it they said don't
use
grease use oil. So I took it apart, cleaned and polished the burrs and
drilled a small hole in the top washer. I now shoot a little LPS 2 into
the
hole every 10 hours or so and disassemble it at annual to clean and inspe
ct
for burrs. For the last 300 hours it has been trouble free.
Alan Kritzman
RV-8 N8EM
Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue
On Jul 13, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Tim Bryan wrote:
> Yikes Curt,
>
> This doesn't paint a very pretty picture. Every 10 hours? That
> could be after every trip. My
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| Subject: | Re: non-swiveling tail wheel |
I agree Curt. I grease mine with every oil change. I have the Bell
tailwheel and love it, but in regards to swivel, it works the same way
as the Van's. Don't know if you are using the one arm device or not,
but I believe the one I was using was exacerbating the problem and have
removed it for the new stainless Van's two arm device. I feel the one
arm seems to bur the pin more than the two arm type. No suppresses in
the last 50 hours.
Steve Glasgow-Cappy
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
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| Subject: | Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS |
uh, yeah, per their instructions the eis can only read the tach timing input from
one source so if you are trying to read both mags (but only one at a time)
you'll need to run both mags timing inputs to a single switch that allows you
to switch between L and R mag. Got my switch at Radio Shack.
so when doing my mag check, i first select which mag's timing signal gets sent
to the EIS via the radio shack switch then turn the Starter switch to operate
off just that mag. When done with the first mag check then move the eis input
switch to the other mag then repeat the single mag selection with the starter
switch.
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo"
>
> HI ;
>
> I have a question, for those with Grand rapid, EIS monitor...only.
>
> When checking the mags, for preflight...I am receiving a -0- indication., when
> turning key to L-Or Right mag..
>
>
> Any ideas as to why this is happening? Yes I turn the small switch
> to Left Mag.
> (In my case is in the up Position) then I turn the key on the
> Ignition switch to L.
>
> then down to the R mag., and the key to R-Mag... in both instances, I
> get a Zero
> ...Engine runs OK on both...
>
> I have checked connection on Ignition switch, it seems all are tight etc..
>
>
> Any suggestions, as to the next step?
>
>
> Bert
>
>
> rv6a
>
>
> Do Not archive....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
<html><body>
<DIV>uh, yeah, per their instructions the eis can only read the tach timing input from
one source so if you are trying to read both mags (but only
one at a time) you'll need to run both mags timing inputs to a single switch
that allows you to switch between L and R mag. Got my switch
at Radio Shack.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>so when doing my mag check, i first select which mag's timing signal gets
sent to the EIS via the radio shack switch then turn the Starter switch
to operate off just that mag. When done with the first mag check then
move the eis input switch to the other mag then repeat the single mag
selection with the starter switch.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Bert Murillo"
<bertrv6@gmail.com> <BR><BR>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert
Murillo" <BERTRV6@GMAIL.COM><BR>> <BR>> HI ; <BR>> <BR>> I have
a question, for those with Grand rapid, EIS monitor...only. <BR>> <BR>>
When checking the mags, for preflight...I am receiving a -0- indication., when
<BR>> turning key to L-Or Right mag.. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Any ideas
as to why this is happening? Yes I turn the small switch <BR>> to Left Mag.
<BR>> (In my case is in the up Position) then I turn the key on the <BR>>
Ignition switch to L. <BR>> <BR>> then down to the R mag., and the
key to R-Mag... in both instances, I <BR>> get a Zero <BR>> ...Engine runs
OK on both... <BR>> <BR>> I have checked connection on Ignition switch,
it seems all are tight etc.. <BR>> <BR>> <B
R>>
your g
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| Subject: | IFR Panel Considerations |
Howdy List!
This message is posted for a friend of mine building a REALLY nice RV-7. He
is instrument rated but it has been quite a few years since he has flown in
the clouds, and now that it's time for him to plan & purchase his panel, he is
pretty overwhelmed at all the stuff available today. Not being
instrument-rated myself, I really can't offer much advice, but many of you have
recently gone
through this process. If anyone would be willing to send me a list of
components you used or just advice on how you arrived at a basic but useful IFR
panel, we'd both appreciate it! Off-list would probably be best because I know
for each suggestion there will be multiple disagreements and I'd really like to
keep the discussion bandwidth as low as possible.
Also, we'd love to hear from folks who have recently had their panels done by
one of the RV specialist panel builders such as SteinAir etc, as this may be
one way to go, just not sure if the additional funds are in the cards at this
point.
One last thing- he'd really like to see if this can be accomplished using new
equipment and keep the cost under $15,000. Possible?
Thanks!
Mark Phillips - do not archive
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| Subject: | Major new product announcement from Vans |
Guys,
I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will
be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expen
ded considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.
Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a tota
lly new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far
:
Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than
"new" product)
Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional
conservatism)
New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tape
red planform or both
The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over no
thing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer h
as the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van
doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
<html><P>Guys,</P>
<P>I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans w
ill be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have ex
pended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12
. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?</P>
<P>I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a t
otally new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water coole
r so far:</P>
<P>Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)<BR>Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be
more of a product improvement than "new" product)<BR>Super RV-8 to comp
lete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)<BR>N
ew wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or taper
ed planform or both</P>
<P>The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over
nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...&nb
sp; : |</P>
<P>Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Sp
ringer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm s
ure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it fr
om!)</P>
<P>--Mark Navratil<BR>Cedar Rapids, Iowa<BR>RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of t
hrills so far...</P></html>
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
Must be a VLJ ... sign me up !!
g
> Guys,
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that
> Vans will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one
> which they have expended considerable effort on over the past
> year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what
> it might be?
> I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would
> be a totally new design. Possibilities thrown out around the
> water cooler so far:
> Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
> Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product
> improvement than "new" product)
> Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans
> traditional conservatism)
> New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new
> airfoil or tapered planform or both
> The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all
> antsy over nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox
> alternate air design... : |
> Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry
> Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't
> worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never
> tell who we heard it from!)
> --Mark Navratil
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
>
--
__g__
==========================================================
Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like the
one they are putting on the RV-12. How better to develop the new gear
than to put it on an RV-7 first. I think we all can agree that the -7A
nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, waiting to order the finish kit as long as I can in hopes that
this speculation is correct.
do not archive
czechsix@juno.com wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans
> will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have
> expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the
> RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
>
[snip]
> Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer
> has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure
> Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
>
> --Mark Navratil
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
A wider cockpit for the 6/7 design for us fat boys.
Ron Lee
Do nor archive
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| Subject: | Re: IFR Panel Considerations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
I will violate your reply rules by posting it here.
I see little use in ADF. A panel mounted GPS with approaches
is probably a must. WAAS functionality should be considered.
Units that fit this are the Garmin GNS 430/530 or equivalent
from other makers (if that exists).
Then it is a matter of whether a Dynon like system is LEGAL
from a artificial horizon point of view. The rest seems simple.
Of course you can add redundant avionics but then you get pricey.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Major new product announcement from Vans |
Mark,
I was going to say Van's big announcement is that they are switching to all
composite construction and then run hide under my desk for a month or two.
But here's my serious guess (no inside information - just a guess.) Van's is
going to open a builder help facility to compete with what Glassair and
maybe a few other kit manufacturer's are doing, so guys like me can finish
their project in 5 years instead of 10 and normal people can finish in a few
months rather than a few years.
Guess #2: They are going to certify and manufacture something, probably the
RV-12 light sport aircraft.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
p.s. Mark, I still want to copy you paint job.
_____
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix@juno.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:35 AM
Guys,
I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be
announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended
considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any
guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally
new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:
Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than
"new" product)
Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional
conservatism)
New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered
planform or both
The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over
nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer has
the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't
read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
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| Subject: | Major new product announcement from Vans |
RV-10D(iesel)?
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix@juno.com
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:35 AM
Guys,
I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be
announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended
considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any
guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally
new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:
Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than
"new" product)
Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional
conservatism)
New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered
planform or both
The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over
nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer has
the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't
read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
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| Subject: | Re: IFR Panel Considerations |
Mark,
My panel is IFR in my -6 and I it can be seen in the Chief aircraft catal
og
for quite some time now. Just inside the front cover. I would love to s
ee
this conversation take place on the list however, as there are newer idea
s
than what I did. Not going to change mine, but still interesting.
VM-1000
SL15M
MX20
GX60
SL30
SL70
Plus the standard 6 pack of flight instruments.
Tim
-------Original Message-------
Howdy List!
This message is posted for a friend of mine building a REALLY nice RV-7.
He
is instrument rated but it has been quite a few years since he has flown
in
the clouds, and now that it's time for him to plan & purchase his panel,
he
is pretty overwhelmed at all the stuff available today. Not being
instrument-rated myself, I really can't offer much advice, but many of yo
u
have recently gone through this process. If anyone would be willing to s
end
me a list of components you used or just advice on how you arrived at a
basic but useful IFR panel, we'd both appreciate it! Off-list would
probably be best because I know for each suggestion there will be multipl
e
disagreements and I'd really like to keep the discussion bandwidth as low
as
possible.
Also, we'd love to hear from folks who have recently had their panels don
e
by one of the RV specialist panel builders such as SteinAir etc, as this
may
be one way to go, just not sure if the additional funds are in the cards
at
this point.
One last thing- he'd really like to see if this can be accomplished using
new equipment and keep the cost under $15,000. Possible?
Thanks!
Mark Phillips - do not archive
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I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
_____
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix@juno.com
Sent: vendredi 14 juillet 2006 19:35
Guys,
I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be
announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended
considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any
guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally
new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:
Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than
"new" product)
Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional
conservatism)
New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered
planform or both
The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over
nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer has
the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't
read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
another personal opinion.........While I would agree that the nose gear on
the A models may be a weak link, I do not think making it steerable would be
an improvement. I would not want to give up the ability to do a tight 180
degree turn while parking which is possible with the current design.
Dale Ensing
>
> My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like the
> one they are putting on the RV-12. How better to develop the new gear
> than to put it on an RV-7 first. I think we all can agree that the -7A
> nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.
>
> Steve Eberhart
do not archieve
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--> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
My guess - a certifed plane..... The kits/designs are nicer than most
aluminum certified planes out there..... Although Van said he'd never do
it....
> Guys,
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will
> be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended
> considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any
> guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
> I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a
> totally new design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so
> far:
> Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
> Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than
> "new" product)
> Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional
> conservatism)
> New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or
> tapered planform or both
> The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over
> nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
> Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer has
> the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van
> doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
> --Mark Navratil
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
czechsix@juno.com wrote:
Me spill the beans, never happen :-) I don't think much goes on this
RV-List that Van does not hear about rather quickly.:)
Jerry
do not archive
> Maybe Jerry Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans
> (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never
> tell who we heard it from!)
>
> --Mark Navratil
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
> My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the
> RV-7 like the one they are putting on the RV-12. How
> better to develop the new gear than to put it on an RV-7
> first. I think we all can agree that the -7A nose gear is
> probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.
>
Steve, I'm hoping your speculation is incorrect, as well.
I've found that the weakest link in Van's -7A is not the
gear. It's the pilot. I've been flying aircraft with castoring
nose gears since 1990 and have had good luck with them.
Since I'm just an average pilot, I assure you it's no big
deal. The proper training will fill in the gaps.
By the way, I've seen as many Cessnas with bent nose
gears as I've seen RV's. In each case, it wasn't the
design of the nose gear. It was the pilot's pilotage that
took it out. Well, one of the RV incidents was actually
a forced landing with a dead engine. Loose nut on a
fuel line. Anyway, I never replaced the nose gear on my
RV-6A when Van offered to replace the weaker nose
gears. I figured if his prototype's nose gear held up as
well as it did, I'd hold off replacing mine. I didn't see
any need to fix what wasn't broken. It's still just fine.
So are my original rudder stirrups. And, I do land on
grass strips.
As long as you take care to land properly, it's a pretty
good set up. It's good enough that I'd prefer that they
don't mess with it; or, worst case, give us a choice. Like,
maybe making the steerable version an option. To be
honest, I'd be surprised if they change what already works.
That won't help you, though. Hey, once you get to making
those tight turns at the tie down, and such, you'll forget
all about wanting that steerable nose gear. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Guess one and I would be willing to bet money on it would be a smaller LSA RV,
possibly O-200 powered.
Guess two would be the glider which I would love to see, but I don't know that
they would consider that major.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>Guys,
>I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be announcing
a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended considerable
effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12. Any guesses or rumors
as to what it might be?
>I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally new
design. Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:
>Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)
>Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than "new"
product)
>Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)
>New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered planform
or both
>The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over nothing
and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design... : |
>Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess? Maybe Jerry Springer has the
inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read
the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)
>--Mark Navratil
>Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...
>
>
________________________________________________________________
Sent via the WebMail system at mail.engalt.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving
enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>>My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like the
>>one they are putting on the RV-12. How better to develop the new gear
>>than to put it on an RV-7 first. I think we all can agree that the -7A
>>nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.
>>
>That won't help you, though. Hey, once you get to making
>those tight turns at the tie down, and such, you'll forget all about
>wanting that steerable nose gear. :-)
I have to agree with Jim. I don't understand how a steerable nose gear
would help
and I have not flown a Cessna 172 in several years so I may just be
ignorant. I know
that I can turn on a Susan B Anthony dollar and taxiing is not a problem.
Ron Lee
Do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
I'll second a vote for a tapered wing. The F1 EVO Rocket looks pretty damn
sweet with that tapered wing to match the tapered tail surfaces.
-Rob
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--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
Primer. Self-cleaning, self-etching, auto-ding-filling primer. Made by
Vans. In a can. Makes pop rivets look like driven rivets. Wonderful
stuff. ;<)
> Guys,
>
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will
> be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have
> expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the
> RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving
>enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.
I like this guess the best!
Maybe it's that they are planning to print enough calendars to actually be
able to fill MY order. I haven't gotten one for years, not from lack of
trying...
I listened to Ken Scott talk at Arlington and he denied anything new in the
works. He said the 12 would not make Osh, but might be flying by the
Homecoming. The glider is Van's personal project and is far from complete.
I intended to kid him about a VLJ but didn't. He said they were working
hard on the 12 and that in addition to shipping parts was more then enough
to keep them busy. I suppose they could "announce" the 12, but since the
specs are not known yet and they haven't built a conforming ship yet it
would be unlike Van to do more then mention it.
I guess we'll see at Osh.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
LSA is my bet.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
Flying!
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--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
Primer. Self-cleaning, self-etching, auto-ding-filling primer. Made by
Vans. In a can. Makes pop rivets look like driven rivets. Wonderful
stuff. ;<)
> Guys,
>
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will
> be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have
> expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the
> RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
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| Subject: | Re: IFR Panel Considerations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Dynon or bluemountain (bluemountain gives you the GPS,
so I'd go that way, personally) $3-$4K
TWO Radios are a must..Garmin SL30, SL40 $5000
VOR/LOC/GS head Garmin MD-200 $1500
Turn coordinator (makes a great backup for keeping the
wings level $500
PS Engineering PM8000B audio panel $1500
Garmin GTX-327 $1800
Autopilot? Trio $1700
Depending on the engine monitor, you could keep it
under $15,000 but it would be tough.
By all means, have John Stark or Stein do the
wiring..I've got products from both, and both are
excellent resources. DO NOT do the wiring yourself
IMHO, for an IFR panel. Not that it can't be done,
but when you've done it yourself on your first plane,
and then you see the quality of work they do, you'll
be glad you did, trust me!
Paul Besing
--- Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> Howdy List!
>
> This message is posted for a friend of mine building
> a REALLY nice RV-7. He
> is instrument rated but it has been quite a few
> years since he has flown in
> the clouds, and now that it's time for him to plan &
> purchase his panel, he is
> pretty overwhelmed at all the stuff available today.
> Not being
> instrument-rated myself, I really can't offer much
> advice, but many of you have recently gone
> through this process. If anyone would be willing to
> send me a list of
> components you used or just advice on how you
> arrived at a basic but useful IFR
> panel, we'd both appreciate it! Off-list would
> probably be best because I know
> for each suggestion there will be multiple
> disagreements and I'd really like to
> keep the discussion bandwidth as low as possible.
>
> Also, we'd love to hear from folks who have recently
> had their panels done by
> one of the RV specialist panel builders such as
> SteinAir etc, as this may be
> one way to go, just not sure if the additional funds
> are in the cards at this
> point.
>
> One last thing- he'd really like to see if this can
> be accomplished using new
> equipment and keep the cost under $15,000.
> Possible?
>
> Thanks!
> Mark Phillips - do not archive
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
This is a great one for the archives...look at all the
keywords below!
DO NOT ARCHIVE!!
--- Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Lewis
> <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
>
> Primer. Self-cleaning, self-etching,
> auto-ding-filling primer. Made by
> Vans. In a can. Makes pop rivets look like driven
> rivets. Wonderful
> stuff. ;<)
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and
> it says that Vans will
> > be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one
> which they have
> > expended considerable effort on over the past year
> and it is NOT the
> > RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might
> be?
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
Ron Lee wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>
>>> My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like
>>> the one they are putting on the RV-12. How better to develop the
>>> new gear than to put it on an RV-7 first. I think we all can agree
>>> that the -7A nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.
>>>
>> That won't help you, though. Hey, once you get to making
>> those tight turns at the tie down, and such, you'll forget all about
>> wanting that steerable nose gear. :-)
>
>
> I have to agree with Jim. I don't understand how a steerable nose
> gear would help
> and I have not flown a Cessna 172 in several years so I may just be
> ignorant. I know
> that I can turn on a Susan B Anthony dollar and taxiing is not a problem.
>
> Ron Lee
I should have referred to it as the oleo nose gear. I don't have a
problem with the castering nose wheel, I just used the term "steerable
nose wheel" to describe the new oleo gear Van has on the RV-12. I do
like the idea of not having the pivot out in front of the wheel where it
can dig into the ground. I fully understand where pilotage comes into
the equation but I have two nephews and a wife who will be taking their
primary flight training in my RV-7A flying off of a moderate length
grass strip. I think the oleo strut gear would be a slightly more
robust nose gear.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, Almost ready for the finishing kit.
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 03:29 PM 7/14/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
>
>Dynon or bluemountain (bluemountain gives you the GPS,
>so I'd go that way, personally) $3-$4K
I just reviewed the Blue Mountain FAQ and EFIS/ONE brochure and did not
see where it offers approached certified GPS capability. If it does not
then add
one for that functionality.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: IFR Panel Considerations |
>Dynon or bluemountain (bluemountain gives you the GPS,
>so I'd go that way, personally) $3-$4K
I just scrolled further down the FAQ and found that the Blue Mountain EFIS
does NOT provide certified GPS approach capability. Thus you would have
add that (unknown cost). Actually VOR and ILS will get you most places
but depending upon Possible phase-down of those systems in favor of
GPS/WAAS you
may find your approach options limited sometime in the future.
Q: Is EFIS/One certified for GPS approaches?
On the advice of our most trusted avionics dealer and partner, we have
decided not to pursue it. For what it will cost to do TSO C129A testing and
certification, we'd have to raise the price of the EFIS by more than the
cost of a high-volume certified unit. We think it's a better deal to have a
reasonably priced glass cockpit, and the interconnect available for those
who want to fly GPS approaches. If you have a certified GPS, you can plug
it in to drive the flight director and autopilot in approach mode.
Ron Lee
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| From: | "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com>
I second that one Mickey. I asked them about this one a while back mainly
so I could get it in colour.
Greg
RV8 in Oz
>
> I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving
> enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 finishing
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
> I fully understand where pilotage comes into the
> equation but I have two nephews and a wife who
> will be taking their primary flight training in my RV-7A
> flying off of a moderate length grass strip. I think the
> oleo strut gear would be a slightly more robust nose gear.
>
Steve, all I can say is you're one brave fella. :-) As for
the gear and primary training, having an instructor who
is good with RVs will lessen the need for concern. I've
bounced my nose gear over some humps in the runway
that made me wonder if I'd bent the gear. It's still fine,
even though it's the weaker one. It's a pretty springy
unit. I've seen a C150 nose gear pushed way back
into the firewall. Hey, one could let the students train
in a C150/152 for a bit to get past that initial learning
curve of reaching for the ground. Less risk on the
-7A, that way. :-)
Jim in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | Partnership Agreement |
Does anyone have draft of a partnership agreement that might work for an
RV?
Jim
Jim Cimino
N7TL
RV-8 S/N 80039
200+ Hours
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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| Subject: | Re: Partnership Agreement |
Check with the EAA office. I used info from them about 15 years ago for
a partnership agreement.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cimino
To: RV-LIST
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Partnership Agreement
Does anyone have draft of a partnership agreement that might work for
an RV?
Jim
Jim Cimino
N7TL
RV-8 S/N 80039
200+ Hours
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
Sounds like your tail wheel isn't set correctly.
It should not be able to disconnect from the rudder with any amount of pedal
movement. One must go another 5 degrees by adding brake and flexing the
springs for it to disengage when it is set up correctly.
My first Van's tail wheel went for 1000 hours with one bearing replacement,
the next one now has about 6 hours on it.
I've also installed a spacer between the bearings so that the bolt can be
properly tightened with some slight preload on the bearings and place a
solid pinch on the bearing inner races.
If I remember correctly the rudder should go 30 deg each way and the
tailwheel unlocks at 35 deg, but it's been a long time since I rigged that.
W
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
Aviation Products Inc.
114 Bryant St.
Ojai, CA 93023
ph/fax 805-646-6042
I think they have a web site if you google the name. I have one of their
full-swivel wheels and have never had to do anything to it except routine
maintenance at conditional inspection. I have had it apart once and finally
may have to replace the body of the thing; after 1000 hours it is getting a
little loose, but only a little. It has never failed to do what it was
designed to do. The tire shows little to no wear at all and the bearings are
still quiet. They have two angles to choose from. I have the taller one (?45
degrees?). Wouldn't have anything else on the tail of Suzie Q.
Tear it apart every 10 hours??? Yikes. Sounds like something from Wichita.
Michael
N232 Suzie Q
OSH-bound in about a week or so!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Partnership Agreement |
If you belong to AOPA they have lots of stuff in the members section for
various agreements you could make work. Do not archive
Jim Thorne
RV-7A CHD
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cimino
To: RV-LIST
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Partnership Agreement
Does anyone have draft of a partnership agreement that might work for
an RV?
Jim
Jim Cimino
N7TL
RV-8 S/N 80039
200+ Hours
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
John,
How do you remove a wheel when it's jacked up like that?
Bob
On 7/11/06, John Danielson <johnd@wlcwyo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>
> I bought a 2 ft piece of 5/8" (I think that's right) steel rod. This
> slips inside the axle. I then use my floor jack used for the car, it
> will fit under the steel rod, and jack the plane up. Works a lot like
> Avery's jack stand, but you really don't need any more than the steel
> rod.
>
> John L. Danielson
> RV-6 sold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Emrath
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:04 PM
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
>
> There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and
> changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear and would like
> to
> know if the Avery RV Jack Stand is the way to go or not. I would like
> to
> hear from some who can extol the benefits of this method of changing
> tires
> or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the
> RV
> and what they did instead.
>
> Marty in Brentwood
> RV-6A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
That's mine too, regardless of what they say. Hey it wouldn't be a
"surprise" at OSH if they announced it NOW. It will at least be a full proto
type, ready to fly but "driven" to OSH in a box van & assembled there. Look
at all the hype they have created by announcing that the BIG advancement is
NOT the RV-12. Yea Right. KABONG
Do Not Archive. Van is dumb like a fox.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:14 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
>
>
> LSA is my bet.
>
> --
> Walter Tondu
> http://www.rv7-a.com
> Flying!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Slide canopy compass mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Quick question on compass mounting:
I have an RV-6 with sliding canopy. Have a bracket to mount the compass on
the roll bar support. Question is: where is the best place on the support
to mount the compass? Toward the top near the roll bar? Halfway down the
support or down at the bottom just above the top skin? Thanks.
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Plodding toward the blissful end.
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| Subject: | Slide canopy compass mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "SteinAir, Inc." <stein@steinair.com>
Hi Dean,
I have mine mounted quite low on the bar and am glad I did. It sits about
1.5" above the glareshield and doesn't get in the way of anything else.
You'll find yourself using that bar for ingress/egress (and something to
hold onto during rolls) so it's nice to leave the upper are of the bar
clear.
You can see a pic of my installation (barely, but it's all I have online at
the moment) at:
http://www.steinair.com/images/store/panels/4SB2.jpg
Just my 2 cents!
Cheers,
Stein.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DEAN PSIROPOULOS
>Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:11 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Slide canopy compass mounting
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
><dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
>Quick question on compass mounting:
>
>I have an RV-6 with sliding canopy. Have a bracket to mount the compass on
>the roll bar support. Question is: where is the best place on the support
>to mount the compass? Toward the top near the roll bar? Halfway down the
>support or down at the bottom just above the top skin? Thanks.
>
>Dean Psiropoulos
>RV-6A N197DM
>Plodding toward the blissful end.
>
>
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| Subject: | Jacking up an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
You slide the wheel out onto the rod and put a block under the axle so
the rod and wheel can be moved away from the plane.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob C.
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:30 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
John,
How do you remove a wheel when it's jacked up like that?
Bob
On 7/11/06, John Danielson <johnd@wlcwyo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>
> I bought a 2 ft piece of 5/8" (I think that's right) steel rod. This
> slips inside the axle. I then use my floor jack used for the car, it
> will fit under the steel rod, and jack the plane up. Works a lot like
> Avery's jack stand, but you really don't need any more than the steel
> rod.
>
> John L. Danielson
> RV-6 sold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Emrath
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:04 PM
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
>
> There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and
> changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear and would
like
> to
> know if the Avery RV Jack Stand is the way to go or not. I would like
> to
> hear from some who can extol the benefits of this method of changing
> tires
> or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the
> RV
> and what they did instead.
>
> Marty in Brentwood
> RV-6A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
In a message dated 07/14/2006 8:00:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
jhstarn@verizon.net writes:
NOT the RV-12. Yea Right.
>>>>>
Yeah, John- just like the -7/7A didn't exist right up to the day my -6A went
from best-seller to "obsolete"! 8-)
Remember when kit parts started showing up with "PP" in the part #? My guess
is that "PD" will be announced (pre-dimpled) or even "PR" (pre-riveted). Or
maybe not- Van's calls that a "Quickbuild"! Looks like a visit to the booth
is in the near future...
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Slide canopy compass mounting |
In a message dated 7/14/2006 6:14:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net writes:
I have an RV-6 with sliding canopy. Have a bracket to mount the compass on
the roll bar support. Question is: where is the best place on the support
to mount the compass? Toward the top near the roll bar? Halfway down the
support or down at the bottom just above the top skin?
=======================================
Just an inch or so up and out from the glare shield.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
More info here:
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/archives/2006/04/tailwheel_upgra.html
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael [mailto:cubflyr@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:21 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Tail wheel
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
>
> Aviation Products Inc.
> 114 Bryant St.
> Ojai, CA 93023
> ph/fax 805-646-6042
>
> I think they have a web site if you google the name. I have
> one of their full-swivel wheels and have never had to do
> anything to it except routine maintenance at conditional
> inspection. I have had it apart once and finally may have to
> replace the body of the thing; after 1000 hours it is getting
> a little loose, but only a little. It has never failed to do
> what it was designed to do. The tire shows little to no wear
> at all and the bearings are still quiet. They have two angles
> to choose from. I have the taller one (?45 degrees?).
> Wouldn't have anything else on the tail of Suzie Q.
>
> Tear it apart every 10 hours??? Yikes. Sounds like something
> from Wichita.
>
> Michael
> N232 Suzie Q
>
> OSH-bound in about a week or so!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steerable nose gear (Was: major announcement) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
Jim Sears wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
>
>
>> I fully understand where pilotage comes into the equation but I have
>> two nephews and a wife who will be taking their primary flight
>> training in my RV-7A flying off of a moderate length grass strip. I
>> think the oleo strut gear would be a slightly more robust nose gear.
>>
>
> Steve, all I can say is you're one brave fella. :-) As for
> the gear and primary training, having an instructor who
> is good with RVs will lessen the need for concern. I've
> bounced my nose gear over some humps in the runway
> that made me wonder if I'd bent the gear. It's still fine, even
> though it's the weaker one. It's a pretty springy
> unit. I've seen a C150 nose gear pushed way back into the firewall.
> Hey, one could let the students train in a C150/152 for a bit to get
> past that initial learning
> curve of reaching for the ground. Less risk on the -7A, that way. :-)
> Jim in KY
Hi Jim,
That is the plan. Get them solo'd in a 152 and transition to the -7A
during the next ten hours or so. I am not that concerned about the
current castering nose wheel as that is what I am building. I just
haven't heard of that many oleo equipped nose gears going over on their
back while I have heard of RV's going over. One of the 152's I took my
primary training in had its nose gear jammed up into the mount by one of
the students. Tore it up pretty good but didn't go over on its back. I
agree with you, if you are trained from the start to keep the weight off
of the nose you shouldn't have any problems.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, Just moved the project to its new hangar and should be mounting
the wings in a month or so.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Jacking up an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
Thanks for answering for me Pax.
John Danielson
RV-6 sold
Harmon Rocket
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:57 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
You slide the wheel out onto the rod and put a block under the axle so
the rod and wheel can be moved away from the plane.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob C.
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:30 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
John,
How do you remove a wheel when it's jacked up like that?
Bob
On 7/11/06, John Danielson <johnd@wlcwyo.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
>
> I bought a 2 ft piece of 5/8" (I think that's right) steel rod. This
> slips inside the axle. I then use my floor jack used for the car, it
> will fit under the steel rod, and jack the plane up. Works a lot like
> Avery's jack stand, but you really don't need any more than the steel
> rod.
>
> John L. Danielson
> RV-6 sold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Emrath
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:04 PM
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
>
> There has been a lot of information shared over the years on tires and
> changing of tires. I'm about to finish installing my gear and would
like
> to
> know if the Avery RV Jack Stand is the way to go or not. I would like
> to
> hear from some who can extol the benefits of this method of changing
> tires
> or from anyone that was not satisfied with this type of jacking up the
> RV
> and what they did instead.
>
> Marty in Brentwood
> RV-6A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
OK, I just can't sit on it.
It's a 180 HP $10,000 firewall forward package from Real World
Solutions, based on the Mazda RX-8 13-B rotary, complete with engine
monitoring and data logging.
Finn
(don't say you heard it from me)
do not archive
czechsix@juno.com wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans
> will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have
> expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the
> RV-12. Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?
>
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