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1. 05:31 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (sportav8r@aol.com)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: MAC servo supplier (Jan)
3. 06:48 AM - Re: Slide canopy compass mounting (Ralph E. Capen)
4. 07:28 AM - Re: Sube challenge (Tracy Crook)
5. 10:07 AM - Re: Clothespins (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
6. 10:33 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
7. 10:45 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Konrad L. Werner)
8. 10:52 AM - Re: Nose gear failures (was new product announcement) (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
9. 11:08 AM - New DVD on Glass Panels (Jon Croke)
10. 11:11 AM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
11. 12:16 PM - Re: Nose gear failures (was new product announcement) (linn Walters)
12. 12:31 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (JOHN STARN)
13. 12:59 PM - Electric trim switch replacement (Louis Willig)
14. 01:05 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
15. 01:05 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Mickey Coggins)
16. 01:22 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Konrad L. Werner)
17. 01:38 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Terry Watson)
18. 01:53 PM - Tire marking material (DAVID REEL)
19. 02:32 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Kevin Horton)
20. 02:55 PM - Re: Tire marking material (Ron Lee)
21. 02:55 PM - Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS (bertrv6@highstream.net)
22. 03:03 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Bob Perkinson)
23. 05:24 PM - Lightspeed Ignition Problem (John Fasching)
24. 05:24 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (Tom Gummo)
25. 05:27 PM - Re: Tire marking material (Tom Gummo)
26. 05:42 PM - Re: The TRUTH about MOGAS (Charlie Kuss)
27. 06:39 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem (Dan Checkoway)
28. 07:19 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
29. 07:28 PM - Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
30. 07:49 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem (dick martin)
31. 08:37 PM - Re: Tire marking material (JOHN STARN)
32. 08:37 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem (Ron Lee)
33. 08:50 PM - Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Sorry, it's a light twin. But if you want a second opinion, I'll say a rigid airship
with prepunched aluminum inner skeleton.
BTW, why are there no homebuilt blimps flying? Can't be that hard with modern
envelope materials, and a single seater would be way cool :-)
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:48 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
OK, I just can't sit on it.
It's a 180 HP $10,000 firewall forward package from Real World Solutions, based
on the Mazda RX-8 13-B rotary, complete with engine monitoring and data logging.
Finn
(don't say you heard it from me)
do not archive
czechsix@juno.com wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans > will be
announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have > expended considerable
effort on over the past year and it is NOT the > RV-12. Any guesses
or rumors as to what it might be?
>
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| Subject: | MAC servo supplier |
Thanks !!
_____
Sent: 13 July 2006 00:05
Jan,
Ray Allan purchased the company. MAC is now RAC. Go to:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/index.html
<http://www.rayallencompany.com/index.html>
Charlie Kuss
Hi,
Can anyone help with the contact details for Menzimer Aircraft Components
Inc... I have a old address for Vista CA....but no reply from the phone
number I got... Have they gone out of business or has the business been
sold..changed owner... ??
Regards
Jan
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| Subject: | Re: Slide canopy compass mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I've got some pictures of mine - its a SIRS compass - I used SSplatenuts
poprivets and screws on the SS roll bar brace.
I did mine just above the skin so as not to make my scan large......right or
wrong......
Contact me direct......
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:10 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
> Quick question on compass mounting:
>
> I have an RV-6 with sliding canopy. Have a bracket to mount the compass
> on
> the roll bar support. Question is: where is the best place on the support
> to mount the compass? Toward the top near the roll bar? Halfway down the
> support or down at the bottom just above the top skin? Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Plodding toward the blissful end.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sube challenge |
Hi Mickey,
There have been RV-4s with Sube installations but not all that many.
Can't remember his last name right now but Bob B. flew his turbocharged
Sube powered RV-4 in the 2002 SUN 100 race at 207 mph and that's what
pushed me into entering the following two years. The installation was
designed by Turbo Tom (RIP, I still miss him) and he and Bob finally
gave up on pushing the Sube that hard after the 4th (or was it 5th ?)
engine grenaded with a thrown rod. For the record, the only part I've
ever broken in a rotary engine has been a rubber O-ring.
But anyway, the performance of any of the two place RVs have always been
very close so an RV-6/A (most Subes seem to be in that model) should be
a valid comparison. I'll even spot you a few MPH and a hundred FPM rate
of climb : ) (my solo w/ 10 gal fuel, standard day ROC is 2600 fpm at
SL)
I'd gladly do the fly-off in my -8 but that would not be a 'fair fight'
with the 300 HP 20B 3 rotor engine on it. (but any of you Rocket
drivers want to go head to head in a time to climb race : )
For the record, I am not anti-Sube. I think it is a fine engine when
operated within it's limits and I'm pulling for Eggenfelner to succeed
in supplying a cost effective alternative to the Lycoming. The rotary
is not the answer for the average builder because of the lack of a
complete FWF package. I will probably not offer one (never say never)
due to the enormous amount of time required to develop all the details
that go into it. You can ruin a perfectly good passion by having it
become a business. I flew more hours before I started RWS. I'll bet
Jan did too.
BTW, the Sube equaled the Lycoming in fuel consumption at the recent
fly-off at Van's (see latest RVator) but it I think it could have done a
lot better if it were equipped with a purpose-built engine controller
instead of the stock Sube ECU which runs richer than necessary at cruise
condition. Want to try one Jan?
Oh yea, Jan responded to my challenge on the Yahoo Egg list by saying
his RV-6A will be flying in 8 weeks.
Don't know which Eggenfelner FWF package he is installing but would
assume it is his flagship model supercharged H6 six cyl. That should be
a hell of a good fight! You're on!
Tracy Crook
----- Original Message -----
From: Mickey Coggins<mailto:mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: How to fly CS / Sube challenge
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins
<mick-matronics@rv8.ch<mailto:mick-matronics@rv8.ch>>
> (Caution!! Brag Alert!)
> BTW, my naturally aspirated 13B rotary has out performed every
EJ-22 or
> 25 Sube RV installation that I've found reliable test results for.
This
> includes the turbo and supercharged ones as well. (like the RVator
test
> subject). 209 mph average in 2003 SUN 100 & 217.5 mph in 2004.
I'd
> love to do a fly-off against one of the newer EGG H6 engines.
Willing
> to travel up to tanks-full range to do this. Any of you Sube
drivers
> out there willing to have a go?
Tracy,
I think you'll get more takers to do a fly-off against your RV8.
Are there even any RV4s with a Subaru? The 4 is going to whomp
all over just about any other RV except the 3.
To the best of my knowledge, there is only one RV8 flying with
a Subaru, and that's Siggi's in Lithuania. I could be wrong.
Mine won't be flying for "a few more months". Once it is, I'm
gonna race anyone I can find! :-)
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/<http://www.rv8.ch/>
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Clothespins sure worked on my 1936 Ford flatty in 1952. Hot summers in The
Dalles, OR, temps 100+, vapor lock. Why did they work? Possibly because wood
is a great insulator?
'nuff said. Do not archive.
Jerry Cochran
In a message dated 7/13/2006 12:05:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rv-list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 07:02:40 PM PST US
I read the link to vapor lock but didn't read that you can clip clothespins
on the fuel line to prevent vapor lock. Have any of you auto fuel fans tri
ed
that? This is humor.
do not archive please
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have. Ken
Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a good idea. I
disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it since then. Maybe it
is a good idea.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/14/2006 2:35:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michele.delsol@microsigma.fr writes:
I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Dan,
Why would an airbag be a bad idea to save your bacon in case you meet
the ground in a unexpected way? Just curious.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major new product announcement from Vans
I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have.
Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a
good idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it
since then. Maybe it is a good idea.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/14/2006 2:35:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michele.delsol@microsigma.fr writes:
I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear failures (was new product announcement) |
Its pretty normal to always think it happens to the other guy. In this case
I'm the other guy!
I tore up my -7A pretty good when the nose gear got into soft dirt and
failed. I slid on wet grass as I was making a turn and went off the side of my
grass strip into some soft mud. I tried to add power to pull it back onto the
runway. As the nose wheel came to a clump of dirt it dug in and stopped the
plane. It almost went clear over. As it was, I needed to replace the prop,
engine mount and gear leg, the firewall and lower skin, and rebuild the
engine. Definitely an expensive mistake.
It was pilot error, but the design of the nose gear does not allow for much
of a mistake. I have always taken good care of the nose gear as I was
trained to do. These things happen quicker than you can think. Or, in this case,
quicker than I could think.
The replacement gear is of the new design, but I imagine that it would have
done the same thing. It was the fairing that caught the mud in this case.
Once it starts plowing it is not coming back up. If it were pavement, the new
design would probably help.
Please don't tell me what I should have done! I have had several weeks to
reflect on all of that. I have the airplane nearly back together now, and am
waiting on engine parts to get it going again. Should be back in the air in
a month or so.
Oh yeah, for you tail dragger pilots: You would probably have just gotten
back on the runway and been out of there. Something to think about.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/15/2006 12:12:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
steve@newtech.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Steve Eberhart <steve@newtech.com>
Jim Sears wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
>
>
>> I fully understand where pilotage comes into the equation but I have
>> two nephews and a wife who will be taking their primary flight
>> training in my RV-7A flying off of a moderate length grass strip. I
>> think the oleo strut gear would be a slightly more robust nose gear.
>>
>
> Steve, all I can say is you're one brave fella. :-) As for
> the gear and primary training, having an instructor who
> is good with RVs will lessen the need for concern. I've
> bounced my nose gear over some humps in the runway
> that made me wonder if I'd bent the gear. It's still fine, even
> though it's the weaker one. It's a pretty springy
> unit. I've seen a C150 nose gear pushed way back into the firewall.
> Hey, one could let the students train in a C150/152 for a bit to get
> past that initial learning
> curve of reaching for the ground. Less risk on the -7A, that way. :-)
> Jim in KY
Hi Jim,
That is the plan. Get them solo'd in a 152 and transition to the -7A
during the next ten hours or so. I am not that concerned about the
current castering nose wheel as that is what I am building. I just
haven't heard of that many oleo equipped nose gears going over on their
back while I have heard of RV's going over. One of the 152's I took my
primary training in had its nose gear jammed up into the mount by one of
the students. Tore it up pretty good but didn't go over on its back. I
agree with you, if you are trained from the start to keep the weight off
of the nose you shouldn't have any problems.
Steve Eberhart
RV-7A, Just moved the project to its new hangar and should be mounting
the wings in a month or so.
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| Subject: | New DVD on Glass Panels |
This is an announcement of interest to the RV community that
www.HomebuiltHELP.com has just released a new DVD video presentation
entitled: " Building a Glass Panel for your Homebuilt Aircraft ".
It is a unique presentation in that it allows first time panel builders
see what is involved with designing and fabricating a modern electronic
display panel for their homebuilt by watching someone do it from start
to finish.
I will leave it at that and those that are interested in this topic can
visit the webpage outline at http://homebuilthelp.com/Glass_Panel.htm
Thanks!
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Hi Konrad,
The first idea that came to my mind when Ken mentioned air bags came from my
Stock Car racing days. A good seat belt and harness performs the same
function in a car without any extra explosives, etc. The trouble with the
airplane is that there is nothing strong enough to anchor the harness to. Even
the
cockpit itself is not all that strong. There was an RV-9 at the Sun-n-Fun
fly mart a year and a half ago that had both longerons broken just behind the
cockpit. This is why I have changed my thinking about air bags in airplanes.
With air bags there is the risk of false deployment. The sensor system is
critical. Its not as easy as it first appears. But, it seems like air bags
could be worthwhile.
As pilots we tend to think that 10 G's is a big number. In a crash you have
to think in terms of 30 or more G's, but for only a short time. Humans can
deal with that with no injury if it is spread over some reasonable area of
the body.
Dan
In a message dated 7/15/2006 1:46:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
klwerner@comcast.net writes:
Dan,
Why would an airbag be a bad idea to save your bacon in case you meet the
ground in a unexpected way? Just curious.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:09 AM
I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have. Ken
Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a good idea. I
disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it since then. Maybe it
is a good idea.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear failures (was new product announcement) |
Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
> Its pretty normal to always think it happens to the other guy. In
> this case I'm the other guy!
snip
> Oh yeah, for you tail dragger pilots: You would probably have just
> gotten back on the runway and been out of there. Something to think
> about.
>
> Dan Hopper
> RV-7A
I'm one of those taildragger pilots (Pitts) ..... and it doesn't take
much for them to end up with the tail in the air. I know of a Pitts S-2
that was doing it's run-up on hard pavement. The airplane started to
move and the pilot applied more pressure to the brakes to stop eth
movement. Even with the stick full back to nail the tail on the ground
..... yup, you guessed right ..... over on it's nose. Prop and teardown
too. As you know, trying to power out of a predicament usually makes
things worse. No, not always, but usually.
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate misfortune ..... it was a learning
experience, I'm sure ..... and if it had ben a certificated airplane,
the costs of repairs would be a lot more.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Is that because there is so much "extra" room for them in the panel ?.
Do Not Archive KABONG (upside down in an RV-6A 3 weeks ago)
----- Original Message -----
From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major new product announcement from Vans
I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have.
Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a
good idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it
since then. Maybe it is a good idea.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/14/2006 2:35:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michele.delsol@microsigma.fr writes:
I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
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| Subject: | Electric trim switch replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
Hi Gang,
I have recently been having trouble with my electric trim switch. It is the
older rocker with the red/green trim position light mounted above. The
switch occasionally does not work, or it sticks in the "forward trim"
setting. Can one purchase the switch from Van's, or do I need another
source? Also can a toggle switch be used as a replacement? What
designation would that be? Thanks in advance.
Louis
-
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop, 500.1 hrs !!
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
In a message dated 7/15/2006 3:32:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhstarn@verizon.net writes:
Is that because there is so much "extra" room for them in the panel ?.
Do Not Archive KABONG (upside down in an RV-6A 3 weeks ago)
I wonder about that aspect of it too!
do not archive
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have.
> Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a good
> idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it since
> then. Maybe it is a good idea.
That would be a great announcement, and I would probably install them.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Don't worry about panel space, as you wear the ABV (Air-Bag-Vest) on
yourself instead of the aeroplane! After all "you" is what it is
supposed to protect in the first place and that way it is always focused
on '"you". And like a handheld radio, it can move with you to different
airplanes too. Clever 'eh?
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major new product announcement from Vans
In a message dated 7/15/2006 3:32:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhstarn@verizon.net writes:
Is that because there is so much "extra" room for them in the panel
?.
Do Not Archive KABONG (upside down in an RV-6A 3 weeks ago)
I wonder about that aspect of it too!
do not archive
Dan
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7/14/2006
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| Subject: | Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
I read somewhere about airbags that are a part of the shoulder harness. The
one I read about was for a single strap shoulder harness, such as in a
Cessna. I think they were to be an option on some certified aircraft.
Terry
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles have.
> Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be a good
> idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it since
> then. Maybe it is a good idea.
That would be a great announcement, and I would probably install them.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
do not archive
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| Subject: | Tire marking material |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Has anyone found a material that will make a permanent mark on a tire
sidewall?
I've sprayed white auto body paint on mine a month ago and it has pretty
completely disappeared by now. My purpose is to easily move the airplane to
a point where the tire can be inflated without removing the wheel pants.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
I hope the air bag would mount up high enough so there was no chance
of it pushing the stick forward if it fired off in the air.
Otherwise a spurious firing could cause structural failure. I'm not
a big fan of electrically commanded systems with single point
failures that cause a catastrophic event.
Kevin Horton
On 15 Jul 2006, at 16:36, Terry Watson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
> I read somewhere about airbags that are a part of the shoulder
> harness. The
> one I read about was for a single strap shoulder harness, such as in a
> Cessna. I think they were to be an option on some certified aircraft.
>
> Terry
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
>> I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles
>> have.
>> Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be
>> a good
>> idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it since
>> then. Maybe it is a good idea.
>
> That would be a great announcement, and I would probably install them.
>
> --
> Mickey Coggins
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire marking material |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 02:53 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
>Has anyone found a material that will make a permanent mark on a tire
>sidewall?
Yellow or white tire marking crayons are good enough.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net>:
> uh, yeah, per their instructions the eis can only read the tach timing input
> from one source so if you are trying to read both mags (but only one at a
> time) you'll need to run both mags timing inputs to a single switch that
> allows you to switch between L and R mag. Got my switch at Radio Shack.
>
> so when doing my mag check, i first select which mag's timing signal gets
> sent to the EIS via the radio shack switch then turn the Starter switch to
> operate off just that mag. When done with the first mag check then move the
> eis input switch to the other mag then repeat the single mag selection with
> the starter switch.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo"
> >
> > HI ;
> >
> > I have a question, for those with Grand rapid, EIS monitor...only.
> >
> > When checking the mags, for preflight...I am receiving a -0- indication.,
> when
> > turning key to L-Or Right mag..
> >
> >
> > Any ideas as to why this is happening? Yes I turn the small switch
> > to Left Mag.
> > (In my case is in the up Position) then I turn the key on the
> > Ignition switch to L.
> >
> > then down to the R mag., and the key to R-Mag... in both instances, I
> > get a Zero
> > ...Engine runs OK on both...
> >
> > I have checked connection on Ignition switch, it seems all are tight etc..
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions, as to the next step?
> >
> >
> > Bert
> >
> >
> > rv6a
> >
> >
> > Do Not archive....
> >
> > Lucky:
If you haves the EIS Unit, you know that it came with the
prewire, Switch, with resistors, for each mag, and one wire (yellow) that
goes to the EIS Unit....Was curious to hear you say, you bought a switch
atRadio Shack...
Yes I have done everything as, call for....still I get a zero
reading, and rogh engine, on either Mag...
Any ideas...
Bert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Don't know about air bags or oleo strut nose gears. What I would want for
OSH is a fully developed slider canopy system that just rivets on and fits.
That would sure make fuselage life much easier.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:26 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
I hope the air bag would mount up high enough so there was no chance
of it pushing the stick forward if it fired off in the air.
Otherwise a spurious firing could cause structural failure. I'm not
a big fan of electrically commanded systems with single point
failures that cause a catastrophic event.
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| Subject: | Lightspeed Ignition Problem |
I have been using two Lightspeed Engineering Hall-effect electronic
ignition systems on my O-320 160HP engine in my RV6A for some time now,
all trouble free.
BUT, today upon returning from a nearby flyin breakfast the plane was
really "making knots" and was making about 180 TAS and 171 GPS ground
speed at 2,350-RPM, with a fuel burn of 6.7 GPH. So I was happy.
On shutdown, I always "kill" one ignition at a time to insure they are
both working (you can turn one off in flight and only see a 10-RPM
engine drop.) Today with the right side on alone it dropped engine rpm
by 400 to 500 and it ran REALLY rough. I put in new plugs, re-timed the
Hall-effect pickup units and got no improvement. Connections/connectors
all securely attached.
While its easy to suspect the electronic unit I do have to recognize
that the plugs are firing, albiet in strange ways, so the electronics
can't be "dead" - also in flight the roughness was not present, or at
least not noticeable.
I asked Klaus for an opinion but probably won't hear from him due to
upcoming OSH, etc. Any Lightspeed users out there have any suggestions?
John
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
Jack you forgot the picture.
do not archive
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: JOHN STARN
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major new product announcement from Vans
Is that because there is so much "extra" room for them in the panel ?.
Do Not Archive KABONG (upside down in an RV-6A 3 weeks ago)
----- Original Message -----
From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major new product announcement from Vans
I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash -- like automobiles
have. Ken Kruger mentioned last year at OSH that he thought it would be
a good idea. I disagreed at the time, but have been thinking about it
since then. Maybe it is a good idea.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/14/2006 2:35:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michele.delsol@microsigma.fr writes:
I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.
Michele
RV8 - Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Tire marking material |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
I found a touch up pen at a auto parts store. It has yellow paint in it.
It seems to stay on my tires with no problems.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:53 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
> Has anyone found a material that will make a permanent mark on a tire
> sidewall?
>
> I've sprayed white auto body paint on mine a month ago and it has pretty
> completely disappeared by now. My purpose is to easily move the airplane
> to
> a point where the tire can be inflated without removing the wheel pants.
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The TRUTH about MOGAS |
Hi Glen
The squish band (aka quench area) is a tapered area on the
periphery of a cylinder head's combustion chamber. It's purpose is to
move the fuel/air mixture near the edges of this area, closer to the
center of the cylinder. It also creates turbulence. This aids in more
complete combustion of the fuel/air mixture. See links below for more
info & photos.
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/squishcalc1.html
http://www.lambretta.net/cylinder-head.htm
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcrob/rt-fuel2.html
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
>
>HI Tim-
>
>This is getting interesting and closer to answering my curiosity. What is
>the "squish" you referred to?
>
>glen matejcek
>aerobubba@earthlink.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem |
Check your coil connections. That is, the fast-on connectors that push
onto the coil terminals. Check the wires & crimps at those connectors.
Make sure there isn't any strain on 'em that has accumulated in form of
poor connection or break in those wires (been there done that).
Phase your coils as per the instructions on www.lsecorp.com. Make sure
both coils are firing properly.
That's about as much as I can tell ya. Let us know what works or
doesn't.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Fasching
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: RV-List: Lightspeed Ignition Problem
I have been using two Lightspeed Engineering Hall-effect electronic
ignition systems on my O-320 160HP engine in my RV6A for some time now,
all trouble free.
BUT, today upon returning from a nearby flyin breakfast the plane was
really "making knots" and was making about 180 TAS and 171 GPS ground
speed at 2,350-RPM, with a fuel burn of 6.7 GPH. So I was happy.
On shutdown, I always "kill" one ignition at a time to insure they are
both working (you can turn one off in flight and only see a 10-RPM
engine drop.) Today with the right side on alone it dropped engine rpm
by 400 to 500 and it ran REALLY rough. I put in new plugs, re-timed the
Hall-effect pickup units and got no improvement. Connections/connectors
all securely attached.
While its easy to suspect the electronic unit I do have to recognize
that the plugs are firing, albiet in strange ways, so the electronics
can't be "dead" - also in flight the roughness was not present, or at
least not noticeable.
I asked Klaus for an opinion but probably won't hear from him due to
upcoming OSH, etc. Any Lightspeed users out there have any suggestions?
John
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| Subject: | Lightspeed Ignition Problem |
If you don't think it's the electronics, I would look at the coils or
the wires. Might be some corrosion on one of the leads or just a wire
going bad.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
Do not archive
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fasching
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:19 PM
I have been using two Lightspeed Engineering Hall-effect electronic
ignition systems on my O-320 160HP engine in my RV6A for some time now,
all trouble free.
BUT, today upon returning from a nearby flyin breakfast the plane was
really "making knots" and was making about 180 TAS and 171 GPS ground
speed at 2,350-RPM, with a fuel burn of 6.7 GPH. So I was happy.
On shutdown, I always "kill" one ignition at a time to insure they are
both working (you can turn one off in flight and only see a 10-RPM
engine drop.) Today with the right side on alone it dropped engine rpm
by 400 to 500 and it ran REALLY rough. I put in new plugs, re-timed the
Hall-effect pickup units and got no improvement. Connections/connectors
all securely attached.
While its easy to suspect the electronic unit I do have to recognize
that the plugs are firing, albiet in strange ways, so the electronics
can't be "dead" - also in flight the roughness was not present, or at
least not noticeable.
I asked Klaus for an opinion but probably won't hear from him due to
upcoming OSH, etc. Any Lightspeed users out there have any suggestions?
John
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| Subject: | Re: mag. check, only for those with EIS |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Nope. I just followed the drawing/instructions on this one but mine didn't come
with a switch. Throw yours away then and get a different one that works. :-)
I don't have my install directions here but go back and double check you wired
up your starter switch correctly. I seem to recall that was a place one could
screw up hooking up the EIS wiring to and then double check that the wires have
continuity through the EIS mag selector switch itself. Finally make sure you
didn't mix up the EIS mag switch resistors with some meant for fuel gauges
or some other component.
Lucky
-------------- Original message ----------------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
> Quoting lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net>:
>
> > uh, yeah, per their instructions the eis can only read the tach timing input
> > from one source so if you are trying to read both mags (but only one at a
> > time) you'll need to run both mags timing inputs to a single switch that
> > allows you to switch between L and R mag. Got my switch at Radio Shack.
> >
> > so when doing my mag check, i first select which mag's timing signal gets
> > sent to the EIS via the radio shack switch then turn the Starter switch to
> > operate off just that mag. When done with the first mag check then move the
> > eis input switch to the other mag then repeat the single mag selection with
> > the starter switch.
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo"
> > >
> > > HI ;
> > >
> > > I have a question, for those with Grand rapid, EIS monitor...only.
> > >
> > > When checking the mags, for preflight...I am receiving a -0- indication.,
> > when
> > > turning key to L-Or Right mag..
> > >
> > >
> > > Any ideas as to why this is happening? Yes I turn the small switch
> > > to Left Mag.
> > > (In my case is in the up Position) then I turn the key on the
> > > Ignition switch to L.
> > >
> > > then down to the R mag., and the key to R-Mag... in both instances, I
> > > get a Zero
> > > ...Engine runs OK on both...
> > >
> > > I have checked connection on Ignition switch, it seems all are tight etc..
> > >
> > >
> > > Any suggestions, as to the next step?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bert
> > >
> > >
> > > rv6a
> > >
> > >
> > > Do Not archive....
> > >
> > > Lucky:
>
> If you haves the EIS Unit, you know that it came with the
> prewire, Switch, with resistors, for each mag, and one wire (yellow) that
> goes to the EIS Unit....Was curious to hear you say, you bought a switch
> atRadio Shack...
>
> Yes I have done everything as, call for....still I get a zero
> reading, and rogh engine, on either Mag...
>
> Any ideas...
>
>
> Bert
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem |
John,
I experienced similar problems several years ago. I determined that it
was failure from heat soaking of the lightweight coils supplied by
Klaus. He suggested I replace them with General Motors coils which I
did. I have had no problems since, 1000 hours ago. Good Luck.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: John Fasching
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: RV-List: Lightspeed Ignition Problem
I have been using two Lightspeed Engineering Hall-effect electronic
ignition systems on my O-320 160HP engine in my RV6A for some time now,
all trouble free.
BUT, today upon returning from a nearby flyin breakfast the plane was
really "making knots" and was making about 180 TAS and 171 GPS ground
speed at 2,350-RPM, with a fuel burn of 6.7 GPH. So I was happy.
On shutdown, I always "kill" one ignition at a time to insure they are
both working (you can turn one off in flight and only see a 10-RPM
engine drop.) Today with the right side on alone it dropped engine rpm
by 400 to 500 and it ran REALLY rough. I put in new plugs, re-timed the
Hall-effect pickup units and got no improvement. Connections/connectors
all securely attached.
While its easy to suspect the electronic unit I do have to recognize
that the plugs are firing, albiet in strange ways, so the electronics
can't be "dead" - also in flight the roughness was not present, or at
least not noticeable.
I asked Klaus for an opinion but probably won't hear from him due to
upcoming OSH, etc. Any Lightspeed users out there have any suggestions?
John
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| Subject: | Re: Tire marking material |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
The pen Tom refers to is the one that Pick A Part, Pick Ur Part ETC. use to
identify items. Ours came from the local NAPA auto parts store, not plain
touch up but more on the line of "Marks a Lot" 'cause it only wears off if
ya'll git on your fingers. It has a ball bearing in it to help with mixing.
Make sure to depress the wick end when you think it's out of paint. I think
the brand name is "Paint Stik". 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:26 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> I found a touch up pen at a auto parts store. It has yellow paint in it.
> It seems to stay on my tires with no problems.
>
> Tom Gummo
> Apple Valley, CA
> Harmon Rocket-II
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition Problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Just remove and reseat all the connections. I had a loss of
one side once that nothing fixed. It finally went away and my
opinion is that some corrosion impacted the connection of one
of the wires to the coils. The multiple reconnecting may have
"cleaned" the corrosion.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Major new product announcement from Vans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Yo Kevin..wonder what would happed to the canopy if the air bag went off in
flight....HMMMMMMMMMMMM JACK Do Not Archive
Why yes, Kevin & I are on a first name basis. I don't drink beer, and he
doesn't drink his cold. 8*)
KABONG
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
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> I hope the air bag would mount up high enough so there was no chance
> Kevin Horton
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