---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/19/06: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:50 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Dana Overall) 2. 05:25 AM - What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. (N395V) 3. 06:29 AM - Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC (Ron Lee) 4. 06:51 AM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (kitfoxmike) 5. 07:00 AM - Re: Landing Gear Bolts (Steve Struyk) 6. 07:21 AM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Delamarter, Jon) 7. 08:32 AM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 8. 09:54 AM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (James Clark) 9. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (wgill10@comcast.net) 10. 11:01 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Sportypilot) 11. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Mickey Coggins) 12. 11:23 AM - Re: Landing Gear Bolts (Mickey Coggins) 13. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Rhonda Bewley) 14. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Ken Howell) 15. 12:56 PM - Re: Connecting Blue Mountain EFIS lite to Pictorial Pilot (Jim Ellis) 16. 12:57 PM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Jim Pleasants) 17. 01:31 PM - RV-10 for sale (Doug Weiler) 18. 02:03 PM - Fw: Government Advocacy Homebuilt Ban Jacksonville, Fl. (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 19. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Connecting Blue Mountain EFIS lite to (Ron Lee) 20. 03:40 PM - Garmin 496 (Terry Watson) 21. 04:20 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (Brian Kraut) 22. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (noel anderson) 23. 05:49 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Eric Ekberg) 24. 06:29 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Ron Lee) 25. 06:46 PM - Re: non-swiveling tail wheel (Curt Reimer) 26. 07:23 PM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Mannan J. Thomason) 27. 07:24 PM - Re: Landing Gear Bolts (low pass) 28. 07:42 PM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Brian Kraut) 29. 07:44 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (Larry Bowen) 30. 08:48 PM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper)) 31. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Chris W) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:44 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" The guy involved in the action has a neighbor from h$ll. The city has a log of complaints from her that is nearly daily on this guy. He is not working with cautic materials, making loud noises or storing junk/trash in the front yard. He has, on occasion, had two airplanes...one in an enclosed garage, at his house. He fought city hall on there terms and won every time. On one occasion he was moving his airplane via trailer and got complained on because the airplane was out of his backyard on the trailer in his driveway awaiting his exit from his front door to drive to the airport. He in essense pissed the city off by beating them at there own game. Case in point, the city charged him with violating a previous order by working on an airplane.......he counter with, it's not an airplane until it has an N number..........won in court after spending a couple thousand. One only needs to look at the final draft.........you will not be able to build your RV in your enclosed garage in this county. BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html do not archive _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:11 AM PST US From: "N395V" Subject: RV-List: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. --> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" Given the space constraints in the planes we fly a comprehensive set of tools/parts is prohibitive. I havve seen many "lists of tools and parts but never a comprehensive list of problems encountered while travelling which seems to me would be a good guide for building a tool/parts kit. In the last 10 years I have had to replace a boost pump and solenoid along with a few screws. Most of the time I obtained unsolicited help from local airport guys and the balance of my tools came from a local auto supply and hardware store. The newly purchased tools I left with the airport. An F1 has absolutely no baggage space to spare. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48504#48504 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:57 AM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee Flat tire (needed tube replacement) Lost fuel cap (failure to verify line boy latching of cap) Note: these are other pilot cases. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:47 AM PST US From: "kitfoxmike" Subject: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" I think if this guy is truely in need the aircaft community should ban together and get both EAA and AOPA involved. Spreading the problem throughout the country with the news media sounds appropriate as well. Letters to our representatives might be in order as well. sounds to me like this is total BS. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48522#48522 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:37 AM PST US From: "Steve Struyk" Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Gear Bolts --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" I had the same problem on my 8. I ended up grinding off one side of a cheap socket so it will fit over the forward nuts in the tower. For the aft nuts I fabricated a spacer form .250 stock that will just fit between the weldment and the flat of the nut keeping it from turning. Then It's torqued form below. I tried various screwdrivers and tools to jam the nut against the weldment but the gap was too big for any tools I tried, and not big enough for a socket to fit. I know, not ideal to torque from the bottom, but the only option I had. The "trick" with the spacer is getting it into position (and out) by brail. My two cents worth. Steve Struyk RV-8 50 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:16 PM > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > If I can't get a wrench/socket on the nut, I've wedged a chisel or wrench > or > whatever in-between a flat on the nut and the weldment to prevent the nut > from turning. Then the bolt is torqued from below. Not ideal, but... > > - > Larry Bowen. RV-8, 201 Hrs. > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Porter [mailto:december29@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:17 PM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Landing Gear Bolts >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Porter" >> >> >> Hi there, >> Going through and finishing up stuff on my -8. Since I >> borrow a torque wrench, tightening the gear bolts had to >> wait. Now the problem! I have the wiring in my gear towers >> as well as the fuel vent line directly over the aft bolt (NAS >> 6206-27/ NAS679A6 nut). Yeah, excellent planning- I know. >> Any ideas on getting those aft nuts- anything at all, strange >> combinations that involve forging my own tools.........I'm stuck. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John >> #80002 >> >> PS If the answer involves MOGAS, AOA, or "my things bigger >> than yours", I'm not listening. Ha, ha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:34 AM PST US From: "Delamarter, Jon" Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Delamarter, Jon" I thought you guys might be interested in the email I sent this morning to the President and Vice President of the Jacksonville City Council. I know it's long, but I hope it will be effective. Gentlemen: Due to the diligence of my fellow aviators, it has come to my attention that the City of Jacksonville, FL has recently enacted Sec. 656.420 amending Chapter 656 of the zoning code. It is my belief that this amendment will limit or eliminate the rights of citizens within the constraints of this code from pursuing activities which are neither commercial in nature nor threatening in anyway to the citizens of Jacksonville. I would encourage the members of your counsel to contact the Experimental Aircraft Association (www.eaa.org ) for an eye-opening overview of the scope and importance of our sport. We have approximately 900 chapters nation-wide, approximately 1000 chapters worldwide, and represent the largest organization of our type in existence. Through our programs, we fund and administer programs which enrich the lives of America and the world. Through our Young Eagles program alone, we have introduced the wonder of flight to well over a million young Americans. These flights were provided at absolutely no cost to the community. Time, equipment, and expenses are paid for by our membership. Oh by the way, you may have heard of the president of our Young Eagles organization. His name is Harrison Ford. When several hundred thousand of us aviation-minded citizens get together next week for our annual gathering in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, our presence will turn this normally average airport into the busiest airport in the world for an entire week. Chuck Yeager, Bud Anderson, and many other veteran heroes are regular attendees. Last year, Spaceship One stopped at our Oshkosh gathering for it's only public appearance on it's way to the Smithsonian. By the way, the folks who designed, built, and flew the Voyager (first non-stop flight around the world), Spaceship One (first civilian space flight), and the Global Flyer (first solo non-stop flight around the world) are all EAA members and active participants in aircraft homebuilding activities. Our ranks include Hollywood movie stars, congressmen, and normal folks from all walks of life. Incidentally, the very first homebuilders were a couple of bicycle mechanics from Dayton, Ohio named Orville and Wilbur Wright. I shudder to think what the outcome would have been if these American heroes had been residents of Jacksonville, FL. The next time you or your counsel members board an aircraft of any type on official business or otherwise, I hope you will remember that you are able to do so only because of the type of entrepreneurial American spirit you are currently trying to regulate out of existence. Aviators in general and homebuilders specifically represent the absolute peak of American ingenuity and citizenship. I believe it would be worth your while to break away from your duties in Jacksonville for a day or two and join us in our annual celebration next week in Oshkosh. Lodging is impossible to get in Oshkosh at this late date, however, if you would like to attend, I will personally assure your accommodation and admission. As a Florida native, it is my sincere hope that you will do the right thing and rethink the county's position in this important matter. Florida is one of the most active homebuilding states in the Union; the majority of these folks are retirees. A large percentage are war veterans. I believe with all my heart that if you and your council members will truly understand the nature of aircraft homebuilding and the integrity of it's participants, you will welcome and encourage it's activity in your city. Sincerely, Jon A. Delamarter Thunderbolt Manager Lycoming Engines I also thought some of you might care to join me in voicing your protest. Here is their contact info. Michael L. Corrigan, Jr., President Jacksonville City Council 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 Jacksonville, FL 32202 (904) 630-1390 Corrigan@coj.net Daniel J. Davis, Vice President Jacksonville City Council 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 Jacksonville, FL 32202 (904) 630-1380 DDavis@coj.net NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:15 AM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida Outstanding Jon. I wish I had your skills. Doug Preston DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:11 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida EXCELLENT! Well put, non-abrasive and thus most effective in getting the message across. I think we could all benefit from copying with your permission, this letter and use it as the basis for such letters in the future if needed in our localities. Is such permitted? James ... from Florida On 7/19/06, Delamarter, Jon wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Delamarter, Jon" < > JDelamarter@lycoming.textron.com> > > I thought you guys might be interested in the email I sent this morning t o > the President and Vice President of the Jacksonville City Council. I kno w > it's long, but I hope it will be effective. > Gentlemen: > Due to the diligence of my fellow aviators, it has come to my attention > that > the City of Jacksonville, FL has recently enacted Sec. 656.420 amending > Chapter 656 of the zoning code. It is my belief that this amendment will > limit or eliminate the rights of citizens within the constraints of this > code from pursuing activities which are neither commercial in nature nor > threatening in anyway to the citizens of Jacksonville. I would encourage > the members of your counsel to contact the Experimental Aircraft > Association > (www.eaa.org ) for an eye-opening overview of the > scope > and importance of our sport. We have approximately 900 chapters > nation-wide, approximately 1000 chapters worldwide, and represent the > largest organization of our type in existence. Through our programs, we > fund and administer programs which enrich the lives of America and the > world. Through our Young Eagles program alone, we have introduced the > wonder of flight to well over a million young Americans. These flights > were > provided at absolutely no cost to the community. Time, equipment, and > expenses are paid for by our membership. Oh by the way, you may have > heard > of the president of our Young Eagles organization. His name is Harrison > Ford. When several hundred thousand of us aviation-minded citizens get > together next week for our annual gathering in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, our > presence will turn this normally average airport into the busiest airport > in > the world for an entire week. Chuck Yeager, Bud Anderson, and many other > veteran heroes are regular attendees. Last year, Spaceship One stopped a t > our Oshkosh gathering for it's only public appearance on it's way to the > Smithsonian. By the way, the folks who designed, built, and flew the > Voyager (first non-stop flight around the world), Spaceship One (first > civilian space flight), and the Global Flyer (first solo non-stop flight > around the world) are all EAA members and active participants in aircraft > homebuilding activities. Our ranks include Hollywood movie stars, > congressmen, and normal folks from all walks of life. Incidentally, the > very first homebuilders were a couple of bicycle mechanics from Dayton, > Ohio > named Orville and Wilbur Wright. I shudder to think what the outcome > would > have been if these American heroes had been residents of Jacksonville, FL .. > The next time you or your counsel members board an aircraft of any type o n > official business or otherwise, I hope you will remember that you are abl e > to do so only because of the type of entrepreneurial American spirit you > are > currently trying to regulate out of existence. > Aviators in general and homebuilders specifically represent the absolute > peak of American ingenuity and citizenship. I believe it would be worth > your while to break away from your duties in Jacksonville for a day or tw o > and join us in our annual celebration next week in Oshkosh. Lodging is > impossible to get in Oshkosh at this late date, however, if you would lik e > to attend, I will personally assure your accommodation and admission. As > a > Florida native, it is my sincere hope that you will do the right thing an d > rethink the county's position in this important matter. Florida is one o f > the most active homebuilding states in the Union; the majority of these > folks are retirees. A large percentage are war veterans. I believe with > all my heart that if you and your council members will truly understand > the > nature of aircraft homebuilding and the integrity of it's participants, > you > will welcome and encourage it's activity in your city. > Sincerely, > Jon A. Delamarter > Thunderbolt Manager > Lycoming Engines > > > I also thought some of you might care to join me in voicing your protest. > Here is their contact info. > > Michael L. Corrigan, Jr., > President > Jacksonville City Council > 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 > Jacksonville, FL 32202 > (904) 630-1390 > Corrigan@coj.net > Daniel J. Davis, > Vice President > Jacksonville City Council > 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 > Jacksonville, FL 32202 > (904) 630-1380 > DDavis@coj.net > > NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. =A7=A7 2510-2521, is confidential and > may > be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or > copying > of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender > that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. > > ========================= =========== ========================= =========== ========================= =========== ========================= =========== > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:05 AM PST US From: wgill10@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida What county? Do they have an email account? Maybe we could share our thoughts with them about their decision! Bill -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > The guy involved in the action has a neighbor from h$ll. The city has a log > of complaints from her that is nearly daily on this guy. He is not working > with cautic materials, making loud noises or storing junk/trash in the front > yard. He has, on occasion, had two airplanes...one in an enclosed garage, > at his house. He fought city hall on there terms and won every time. On > one occasion he was moving his airplane via trailer and got complained on > because the airplane was out of his backyard on the trailer in his driveway > awaiting his exit from his front door to drive to the airport. He in > essense pissed the city off by beating them at there own game. Case in > point, the city charged him with violating a previous order by working on an > airplane.......he counter with, it's not an airplane until it has an N > number..........won in court after spending a couple thousand. One only > needs to look at the final draft.........you will not be able to build your > RV in your enclosed garage in this county. > > BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > >
What county? Do they have an email account? Maybe we could share our thoughts with them about their decision!
 
Bill
 
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From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>

> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall"
>
> The guy involved in the action has a neighbor from h$ll. The city has a log
> of complaints from her that is nearly daily on this guy. He is not working
> with cautic materials, making loud noises or storing junk/trash in the front
> yard. He has, on occasion, had two airplanes...one in an enclosed garage,
> at his house. He fought city hall on there terms and won every time. On
> one occasion he was moving his airplane via trailer and got complained on
> because the airplane was out of his backyard on the trailer in his driveway
> awaiting his exit from his front door to drive to the airport. He in
> essense pissed the city off by beati ng the tures ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:22 AM PST US From: "Sportypilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" I think the AOPA should be doing something too! Aircraft Owners is the 1st part of their Name doesn't say production aircraft owners.. > > BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:43 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > I think if this guy is truely in need the aircaft community should > ban together and get both EAA and AOPA involved. I agree. He has a website - not much up yet. http://www.jaxairplane.com/ A wise fellow once said: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:07 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Gear Bolts --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins I'm not sure where I got the idea, probably here. You can buy metal locking nuts at ACS that go on the RV8 gear legs and have much smaller heads, which allow you to easily get a socket on. I thought I had some pics on my website, but I can't find them. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:21 PM PST US From: "Rhonda Bewley" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" Here is part of an email from Dan Horton. This information was emailed out to the Pitts Model 12 group. "First call received was from Councilman Ray's executive assistant. We had a nice conversation. As suspected, the ordinance is the result of a protracted problem with a single individual, a Mr. Kraut of Mayapple Rd in Jacksonville. I did not debate the wisdom of a sweeping ordinance to address a single idiot. My goal was to gather information and get a handle on the feelings behind the actions. My impression is that Mr. Kraut has handed aircraft builders an uphill battle. Second call was mine, to Randy Hansen at EAA HQ. I've passed along all I know about the problem. Randy was already aware of the issue. A member of EAA's Legal Advisory Council has volunteered to take up the matter with the City Attorney, and will report, in person, at Oshkosh next week. Any action taken will be after the Convention." I agree with Dan that we should, at this point, rely on our member organizations to act on our behalf. Quick wit and tongue might do nothing but exacerbate the situation. Rhonda Barrett-Bewley Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. 2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. Tulsa,OK 74115 (918) 835-1089 phone (918) 835-1754 fax www.barrettprecisionengines.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sportypilot Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:55 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" I think the AOPA should be doing something too! Aircraft Owners is the 1st part of their Name doesn't say production aircraft owners.. > > BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:17 PM PST US From: "Ken Howell" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Howell" I wouldn't rely entirely on our member organizations to do the job for us, although I hope they help in whatever way they can. Respectful individual comments can certainly do no harm, and just might do a whole lot of good. I would encourage every homebuilder to submit a comment to Corrigan@coj.net. The next town could be yours. Following is a copy of my email submitted to Mr. Corrigan, President of the Jacksonville City Council... Dear Sir, The recent amendment 656.420 to the Jacksonville zoning code infringes upon and severely restricts the rights of your citizens, many of whom are aircraft homebuilders. This is the equivalent of forbidding the restoration of a vintage automobile or any other object or conveyance on personal property. Many activities of this nature can be done without impinging on anyone else's rights or causing any nuisance to others. It is apparent that this amendment was poorly thought out with regard to the consequences it has on the rights of your citizens (and future citizens). I would appeal to you to strike this ill-conceived amendment from your zoning code and replace it with one that does not deny fundamental AMERICAN LIBERTY. Respectfully, Kenneth Howell Glenwood Maryland -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Bewley Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:00 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" Here is part of an email from Dan Horton. This information was emailed out to the Pitts Model 12 group. "First call received was from Councilman Ray's executive assistant. We had a nice conversation. As suspected, the ordinance is the result of a protracted problem with a single individual, a Mr. Kraut of Mayapple Rd in Jacksonville. I did not debate the wisdom of a sweeping ordinance to address a single idiot. My goal was to gather information and get a handle on the feelings behind the actions. My impression is that Mr. Kraut has handed aircraft builders an uphill battle. Second call was mine, to Randy Hansen at EAA HQ. I've passed along all I know about the problem. Randy was already aware of the issue. A member of EAA's Legal Advisory Council has volunteered to take up the matter with the City Attorney, and will report, in person, at Oshkosh next week. Any action taken will be after the Convention." I agree with Dan that we should, at this point, rely on our member organizations to act on our behalf. Quick wit and tongue might do nothing but exacerbate the situation. Rhonda Barrett-Bewley Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. 2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. Tulsa,OK 74115 (918) 835-1089 phone (918) 835-1754 fax www.barrettprecisionengines.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sportypilot Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:55 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" I think the AOPA should be doing something too! Aircraft Owners is the 1st part of their Name doesn't say production aircraft owners.. > > BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:37 PM PST US From: "Jim Ellis" Subject: RV-List: Re: Connecting Blue Mountain EFIS lite to Pictorial Pilot --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Ellis" For those of you who may be following this thread (maybe three people in the Western Hemisphere) let me update what I have learned. In a phone conversation today with Larry, BMA Technican, he confirmed that the Serial Port B sends out no data when it is selected/activated. He tried several different units with the same result. He thinks it might be a software problem. This confirms my own observation. When I connected my laptop PC to the G3 Lite serial output cable there was no data stream coming from the G3, therefore there was nothing for the TruTrak autopilot to lock on to. Because all the BMA folks are off to Oshkosh they said they will work on a fix when they return. I feel good that we may be making some progress. Jim Ellis RV9-A, Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48633#48633 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:13 PM PST US From: "Jim Pleasants" Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida FWIW, Unison has a major facility in Jacksonville, and I have seen articles published that indicate that the City government is proud to have them there. Prehaps, if their customers (and potential customers) would encourage Unison, they might be willing to reason with the Mayor and Councilmen. Jim Pleasants ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:31:27 PM PST US From: Doug Weiler Subject: RV-List: RV-10 for sale --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler Fellow Listers: I am posting this note for a friend who has just completed a most beautiful RV-10. I have flown this aircraft about 20 hours and is REALLY nice. Here is the link for more information: http://www.mnwing.org/EldonRV10/index.html Thanks Doug Weiler ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:28 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: RV-List: Fw: Government Advocacy Homebuilt Ban Jacksonville, Fl. List, This is the EAA response on the Jacksonville Homebuilt Ban. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:31 PM Tom, EAA is aware of this issue and will be briefed on it during AirVenture, but nothing will be done until all the facts are in and AirVenture is completed. Randy Randy Hansen EAA Government Relations Director 888-322-4636, extension 6522 Mark your 2006 calendar for the World's Greatest Aviation Celebration ... EAA AirVenture Oshkosh ... Monday, July 24th through Sunday, July 30th. http://www.airventure.org/ -----Original Message----- From: Tom & Cathy Ervin [mailto:tcervin@valkyrie.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:47 AM To: EAA Government Programs Subject: Government Advocacy Homebuilt Ban Jacksonville, Fl. The Jacksonville, Fl. City & County Council has banned Home Building any place including inside your home! The EEA needs to get very aggressive on stopping this intrusion into our hobby. If this ban on Home Building is allowed to stand Ohio will be next! Thomas Ervin # 0602653 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:36 PM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Connecting Blue Mountain EFIS lite to --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee >In a phone conversation today with Larry, BMA Technican, he confirmed >that the Serial Port B sends out no data when it is selected/activated. He >tried several different units with the same result. He thinks it might be >a software problem. > >This confirms my own observation. When I connected my laptop PC to the G3 >Lite serial output cable there was no data stream coming from the G3, >therefore there was nothing for the TruTrak autopilot to lock on to. You probably could have verified this by hooking a voltmeter to the line that should have transmitted the data (ground as appropriate). This was how I verified that I had the right wire out of my Garmin GNS 430 before hooking it to my autopilot. Some of us do not have laptops (or cell phones, or DSL). :) Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:17 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RV-List: Garmin 496 I just received this ad from JA Air Center: JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database, and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS. Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery. Terry ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:28 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 496 I suspected that we would see something like this last month wen the price came down on the 396. Of course I just bought a 396 about 3 months ago. Arrrgh! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry Watson Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: Garmin 496 I just received this ad from JA Air Center: JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database, and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS. Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery. Terry ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:09 PM PST US From: "noel anderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "noel anderson" Hi Guys & Gals. I thourght the USA was the Land of the Free??? It's must be the same every place, don't piss off City Hall, they will smack you in the mouth every time. Hope you people can resolve this problem, those bureaucrats need to remember who pays thier wages!!!. It seems that the Seat Polihsers done your way are the same as ours, more Ego than ability!! Safe Flying & Happy Landings ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:44 PM > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > The guy involved in the action has a neighbor from h$ll. The city has a > log of complaints from her that is nearly daily on this guy. He is not > working with cautic materials, making loud noises or storing junk/trash in > the front yard. He has, on occasion, had two airplanes...one in an > enclosed garage, at his house. He fought city hall on there terms and won > every time. On one occasion he was moving his airplane via trailer and > got complained on because the airplane was out of his backyard on the > trailer in his driveway awaiting his exit from his front door to drive to > the airport. He in essense pissed the city off by beating them at there > own game. Case in point, the city charged him with violating a previous > order by working on an airplane.......he counter with, it's not an > airplane until it has an N number..........won in court after spending a > couple thousand. One only needs to look at the final draft.........you > will not be able to build your RV in your enclosed garage in this county. > > BTW, AOPA says there is nothing they can do. Yet to hear from the EAA > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:10 PM PST US From: "Eric Ekberg" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale That sure is a beautiful plane. Love the paint! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person Eric - Do not archive On 7/19/06, Doug Weiler wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler > > > Fellow Listers: > > I am posting this note for a friend who has just completed a most > beautiful > RV-10. I have flown this aircraft about 20 hours and is REALLY nice. > > Here is the link for more information: > > http://www.mnwing.org/EldonRV10/index.html > > Thanks > > Doug Weiler > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:13 PM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee At 06:43 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote: >That sure is a beautiful plane. Love the paint! I'm looking forward to >seeing it in person > Just shows different tastes. Since this plane was apparently built as a spec plane it amazed me that the first picture looked somewhat gaudy. Then you look at the last one and it is a more reasonable beige. Bad in that there is no blue. Good in that there is no purple. Ron Lee Do not archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:47 PM PST US From: "Curt Reimer" Subject: Re: RV-List: non-swiveling tail wheel To clarify my post, I find the main pivot itself sticks unless I grease it every 10 hours. I can still move it, but it's very stiff, and when I remove it to grease it, it's dry as a bone. The locking key on the other hand has been fine since the first de-burring repair hundreds of hours ago. Perhaps my problems come from flying off grass almost exclusively. It's been pretty wet here the past couple of summers and I thought the water was washing the grease away. I went though a set of front wheel bearings (rusted) after only 140 hours my first year. But this summer has been dry and I still have to grease the tailwheel. I should give the design it's due: it is an elegant, simple and lightweight mechanism for what it does and seems to give trouble-free use for a lot of people. Curt ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:54 PM PST US From: "Mannan J. Thomason" Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida Jon: In the vernacular of Rush fans: DITTO. Mannan Thomason RV-8 N161RL DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida Outstanding Jon. I wish I had your skills. Doug Preston DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:26 PM PST US From: "low pass" Subject: RV-List: Re: Landing Gear Bolts --> RV-List message posted by: "low pass" Don't forget to retorque after about 50 hours flying time. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=48731#48731 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:12 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" Thanks. Very well written. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Delamarter, Jon Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:30 AM --> RV-List message posted by: "Delamarter, Jon" I thought you guys might be interested in the email I sent this morning to the President and Vice President of the Jacksonville City Council. I know it's long, but I hope it will be effective. Gentlemen: Due to the diligence of my fellow aviators, it has come to my attention that the City of Jacksonville, FL has recently enacted Sec. 656.420 amending Chapter 656 of the zoning code. It is my belief that this amendment will limit or eliminate the rights of citizens within the constraints of this code from pursuing activities which are neither commercial in nature nor threatening in anyway to the citizens of Jacksonville. I would encourage the members of your counsel to contact the Experimental Aircraft Association (www.eaa.org ) for an eye-opening overview of the scope and importance of our sport. We have approximately 900 chapters nation-wide, approximately 1000 chapters worldwide, and represent the largest organization of our type in existence. Through our programs, we fund and administer programs which enrich the lives of America and the world. Through our Young Eagles program alone, we have introduced the wonder of flight to well over a million young Americans. These flights were provided at absolutely no cost to the community. Time, equipment, and expenses are paid for by our membership. Oh by the way, you may have heard of the president of our Young Eagles organization. His name is Harrison Ford. When several hundred thousand of us aviation-minded citizens get together next week for our annual gathering in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, our presence will turn this normally average airport into the busiest airport in the world for an entire week. Chuck Yeager, Bud Anderson, and many other veteran heroes are regular attendees. Last year, Spaceship One stopped at our Oshkosh gathering for it's only public appearance on it's way to the Smithsonian. By the way, the folks who designed, built, and flew the Voyager (first non-stop flight around the world), Spaceship One (first civilian space flight), and the Global Flyer (first solo non-stop flight around the world) are all EAA members and active participants in aircraft homebuilding activities. Our ranks include Hollywood movie stars, congressmen, and normal folks from all walks of life. Incidentally, the very first homebuilders were a couple of bicycle mechanics from Dayton, Ohio named Orville and Wilbur Wright. I shudder to think what the outcome would have been if these American heroes had been residents of Jacksonville, FL. The next time you or your counsel members board an aircraft of any type on official business or otherwise, I hope you will remember that you are able to do so only because of the type of entrepreneurial American spirit you are currently trying to regulate out of existence. Aviators in general and homebuilders specifically represent the absolute peak of American ingenuity and citizenship. I believe it would be worth your while to break away from your duties in Jacksonville for a day or two and join us in our annual celebration next week in Oshkosh. Lodging is impossible to get in Oshkosh at this late date, however, if you would like to attend, I will personally assure your accommodation and admission. As a Florida native, it is my sincere hope that you will do the right thing and rethink the county's position in this important matter. Florida is one of the most active homebuilding states in the Union; the majority of these folks are retirees. A large percentage are war veterans. I believe with all my heart that if you and your council members will truly understand the nature of aircraft homebuilding and the integrity of it's participants, you will welcome and encourage it's activity in your city. Sincerely, Jon A. Delamarter Thunderbolt Manager Lycoming Engines I also thought some of you might care to join me in voicing your protest. Here is their contact info. Michael L. Corrigan, Jr., President Jacksonville City Council 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 Jacksonville, FL 32202 (904) 630-1390 Corrigan@coj.net Daniel J. Davis, Vice President Jacksonville City Council 117 West Duval St., Suite 425 Jacksonville, FL 32202 (904) 630-1380 DDavis@coj.net NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 496 http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/ _____ Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM I just received this ad from JA Air Center: JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database, and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS. Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery. Terry ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:29 PM PST US From: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) Subject: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) >"We should hear both sides of the story..." Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property rights, I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the driveway set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of paint fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and now over 8 years into the project. It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a county board of supervisors. Pete Cowper RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage) Hanger B-5 Visalia Municipal Airport ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:47 PM PST US From: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> Pete Cowper wrote: >Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property rights, >I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe . . . > You really should read the whole thread before you post. From what has been posted, your mental picture and reality couldn't be further apart. do not archive. -- Chris W KE5GIX