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1. 04:23 AM - Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (glen matejcek)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
3. 06:26 AM - O-320 E2D For Sale (Gary Childers)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Mark Grieve)
5. 07:52 AM - Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount (Doug Gray)
6. 10:35 AM - black screws for instruments (sarg314)
7. 11:19 AM - Re: black screws for instruments (Jeff Orear)
8. 12:23 PM - Re: black screws for instruments (Gerry Filby)
9. 12:23 PM - Re: black screws for instruments (Dwight Frye)
10. 12:24 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Joseph Larson)
11. 01:53 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (aeroncadoc@comcast.net)
12. 02:27 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (James Clark)
13. 03:13 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (Terry Watson)
14. 04:01 PM - XM WX (Paul Besing)
15. 04:01 PM - Re: black screws for instruments (Paul Besing)
16. 04:18 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (Larry Bowen)
17. 04:18 PM - Re: Garmin 496 (Ed Holyoke)
18. 04:39 PM - Re: XM WX (Larry Pardue)
19. 05:06 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Eric Ekberg)
20. 06:15 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Evan and Megan Johnson)
21. 06:17 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (Dale Walter)
22. 06:47 PM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Bob Collins)
23. 07:04 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate ()
24. 07:12 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (Larry Pardue)
25. 07:24 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (Jeffery J. Morgan)
26. 07:27 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (Ron Lee)
27. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Brian Kraut)
28. 08:54 PM - Re: black screws for instruments (Brian Kraut)
29. 09:28 PM - Nifty scale engines on display at DIA (BillDube@killacycle.com)
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| Subject: | Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
--> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hey Brian-
In my limited experience with neighborhood busybodies it seems that as much
as they try to exert their influence on others, they themselves are not in
compliance with the body of rules they are trying to enforce. Also, it
sure seems like you have grounds for a harassment suit.
I'll zip JAX a short comment in a moment, as well as stop by the Unison
booth (and flag down T.P.) if we cross paths at OSH. I would respectfully
an sincerely request that you all do the same. If 30, 100, or 1,000 folks
grab Tom by the ear next week it might rearrange his priorities a little.
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I am going to send the ordinance to the Today show in New York, because
as it is effectively written, it is illegal to build model rockets, RC
planes and kites for the kids, this is really going way across the line,
and we all need to stand up for this, regardless of the cause, the end
results penalizes all.
Dan Lloyd
40269 (N289DT)
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mickey Coggins
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:06 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I think if this guy is truely in need the aircaft community should
> ban together and get both EAA and AOPA involved.
I agree. He has a website - not much up yet.
http://www.jaxairplane.com/
A wise fellow once said:
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
do not archive
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| Subject: | O-320 E2D For Sale |
$10,000 outright
recently removed from my 68 Cessna Cardinal for HP
upgrade. 3,000 TTSN, 1056 SMOH, 560 STOH, new Cam and bearings and oil pump gears
150 hrs ago for oil pump AD. includes Mags (Slick), vacuume pump, starter
and alternator. Compressions were all 80/80 when removed. This is a dry strong
running engine. Used 1qt in 13-18 hrs. Price is outright NO core. Have
all logs. Contact
cowboy286@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Wouldn't the ordinance also prohibit hot air balloon pilots from
transporting their craft to and from launch sites. There must be a
balloon pilot or two in the county who would be troubled by this.
Do not archive
Mark
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
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> I am going to send the ordinance to the Today show in New York, because
> as it is effectively written, it is illegal to build model rockets, RC
> planes and kites for the kids, this is really going way across the line,
> and we all need to stand up for this, regardless of the cause, the end
> results penalizes all.
> Dan Lloyd
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
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| Subject: | Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
Folks,
I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear
socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have
experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.
My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear
direction how they are positioned. Can someone point me to a clear
photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are
fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.
Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the
welder.
Thanks,
Doug Gray
Sydney, Australia
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| Subject: | black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I need a few 8-32 and 4-40 black, round head screws for mounting
instruments. Does any one know where I can get these? I can't find any
in the Spruce catalog.
--
Tom Sargent
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Tom:
Try Wicks. I had no problems finding them there.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P
Peshtigo, WI
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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:30 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
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> Tom Sargent
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| Subject: | Re: black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
You can't get to the part number online at Spruce (went through
this just recently). Someone helped me out on this list - try
searching the archive. If that doesn't work - let me know I
have the part number on an invoice at home which I can get for
you tomorrow.
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> I need a few 8-32 and 4-40 black, round head screws for mounting
> instruments. Does any one know where I can get these? I can't
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
Try http://www.mcmaster.com/
In the "Fastening and Sealing" section on the main page click on "Machine
Screws". Under the "Material" section of that page you'll see a link for
"Black-Oxide". From there you have the option of selecting a pan-head screw
and they do have them in 8-43 and 4-40 and various lengths.
I just love McMaster-Carr. These folks have one of the best websites I
have encountered for finding what they do and do not have in stock. IMHO.
-- Dwight (do not archive)
On Thu Jul 20 14:17:23 2006, Jeff Orear wrote :
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>Regards,
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>Jeff Orear
>RV6A N782P
>Peshtigo, WI
>----- Original Message -----
>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:30 PM
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
The first photo is clearly shot as the sun is setting (or possibly
rising), which offers some dramatic lighting. As an amateur
photographer, I liked the effect.
-J
On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Ron Lee wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
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> At 06:43 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote:
>> That sure is a beautiful plane. Love the paint! I'm looking
>> forward to seeing it in person
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> Just shows different tastes. Since this plane was apparently built as
> a spec plane it amazed me that the first picture looked somewhat
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 for sale |
Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're getting up into
new SR20 range there.
Henry H.
<html><body>
<DIV>Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're getting
up into new SR20 range there.</DIV>
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So what is your plan??? Or did you purchase a 396 already?
James
On 7/19/06, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
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> http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Terry Watson [mailto:terry@tcwatson.com]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Garmin 496
>
> I just received this ad from JA Air Center:
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> JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin
> GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database,
> and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS.
>
> Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery.
>
>
> Terry
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--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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I think you were asking Larry -not me- but my plan is to wait awhile. I have
a 196 which I like a lot, but I always want the latest and greatest.
Aviation Consumer says they are going to do a complete review of the 496 in
their September issue. I also see that there are two levels of XM weather
subscriptions now, one at $30 a month and another at $50. The $50 one seems
to be for higher altitudes than we would typically be interested in.
See: http://www.xmradio.com/weather/aviation.html
Someone at one of the avionics booths at the Arlington fly-in told me that
my wiring for the 196 won't work for the 396 or likely the 496. He said it
was a different plug entirely.
Terry
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:25 PM
So what is your plan??? Or did you purchase a 396 already?
James
On 7/19/06, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com <mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com> >
wrote:
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/
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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM
I just received this ad from JA Air Center:
JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin
GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database,
and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS.
Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery.
Terry
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
I have the $30 subscription for XM weather right now.
It's fine, but the $50 one would be nice mainly for
the winds aloft information. It is available on the
396, it's not just a 496 new item.
Paul Besing
--- Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> wrote:
> I think you were asking Larry -not me- but my plan
> is to wait awhile. I have
> a 196 which I like a lot, but I always want the
> latest and greatest.
> Aviation Consumer says they are going to do a
> complete review of the 496 in
> their September issue. I also see that there are two
> levels of XM weather
> subscriptions now, one at $30 a month and another at
> $50. The $50 one seems
> to be for higher altitudes than we would typically
> be interested in.
>
>
>
> See: http://www.xmradio.com/weather/aviation.html
>
>
>
> Someone at one of the avionics booths at the
> Arlington fly-in told me that
> my wiring for the 196 won't work for the 396 or
> likely the 496. He said it
> was a different plug entirely.
>
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> Terry
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> _____
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> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of James Clark
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:25 PM
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> So what is your plan??? Or did you purchase a 396
> already?
>
> James
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> On 7/19/06, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com
> <mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com> >
> wrote:
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> http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM
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> I just received this ad from JA Air Center:
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> JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to
> announce the new Garmin
> GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport
> Guide, Taxiway Database,
> and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS.
>
> Limited quantities are in stock and available for
> immediate delivery.
>
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> Terry
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>
> --
> This is an alternate email. Please continue to email
> me at
> james@nextupventures.com .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Home Depot, ACE, etc. Unless you have to worry about
ferrous metals, of course. I used SS ones and had no
issues with magnetic interference. The brass ones are
very soft too, and the paint comes off easily..
Paul Besing
--- sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314
> <sarg314@comcast.net>
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> I need a few 8-32 and 4-40 black, round head screws
> for mounting
> instruments. Does any one know where I can get
> these? I can't find any
> in the Spruce catalog.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A
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> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I recently upgraded from the 196 to 396. The wiring is different, but not
a big deal. I'm real happy with the change -- even with the recent news
of the 496. We sorta knew something was on the horizon when the price
dropped. The 196 is now used in the back seat.
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/archives/2006/06/gps_update.html
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Terry Watson wrote:
> I think you were asking Larry -not me- but my plan is to wait awhile. I
> have
> a 196 which I like a lot, but I always want the latest and greatest.
> Aviation Consumer says they are going to do a complete review of the 496
> in
> their September issue. I also see that there are two levels of XM weather
> subscriptions now, one at $30 a month and another at $50. The $50 one
> seems
> to be for higher altitudes than we would typically be interested in.
>
>
> See: http://www.xmradio.com/weather/aviation.html
>
>
> Someone at one of the avionics booths at the Arlington fly-in told me that
> my wiring for the 196 won't work for the 396 or likely the 496. He said it
> was a different plug entirely.
>
>
> Terry
>
>
> _____
>
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:25 PM
>
>
> So what is your plan??? Or did you purchase a 396 already?
>
> James
>
>
> On 7/19/06, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com <mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com>
> >
> wrote:
>
> http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/
>
>
> _____
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM
>
>
> I just received this ad from JA Air Center:
>
>
> JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin
> GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway Database,
> and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS.
>
> Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery.
>
>
> Terry
>
>
> --
> This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> james@nextupventures.com .
>
>
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The 196 and 296 have slightly different plugs. The 296 has 2 serial
ports and the 196 only 1. I haven't looked at a 3 or 496.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:10 PM
I think you were asking Larry -not me- but my plan is to wait awhile. I
have a 196 which I like a lot, but I always want the latest and
greatest. Aviation Consumer says they are going to do a complete review
of the 496 in their September issue. I also see that there are two
levels of XM weather subscriptions now, one at $30 a month and another
at $50. The $50 one seems to be for higher altitudes than we would
typically be interested in.
See: http://www.xmradio.com/weather/aviation.html
Someone at one of the avionics booths at the Arlington fly-in told me
that my wiring for the 196 won't work for the 396 or likely the 496. He
said it was a different plug entirely.
Terry
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:25 PM
So what is your plan??? Or did you purchase a 396 already?
James
On 7/19/06, Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com
<mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com> > wrote:
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap496/
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<mailto:terry@tcwatson.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:37 PM
I just received this ad from JA Air Center:
JA Air Center, your Garmin source, is pleased to announce the new Garmin
GPSmap 496 with XM Weather, Terrain, AOPA Airport Guide, Taxiway
Database, and built in StreetPilot Automotive GPS.
Limited quantities are in stock and available for immediate delivery.
Terry
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Paul Besing wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
>
> I have the $30 subscription for XM weather right now.
> It's fine, but the $50 one would be nice mainly for
> the winds aloft information. It is available on the
> 396, it's not just a 496 new item.
>
I think the $50 subscription is also real nice for the lightning
data. I have seen times, like over the Guadalupe Mountains, that no
echos at all showed up on my 396, but I could see a thunderstorm
visually and by the lightning data. Makes me wonder about the source
of the radar data because I know precip shows up here on NOAA sites.
It is a difficult area for radar coverage though.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 for sale |
I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I doubt he
will. Someone in the know needs to let the list know how much it goes for
when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool
Eric
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On 7/20/06, aeroncadoc@comcast.net <aeroncadoc@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're getting
> up into new SR20 range there.
>
> Henry H.
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 for sale |
Its a lot better airplane than the SR20....compare the stats. It is much
closer to the SR22 which is a lot more cash than that. I doubt very much
I would sell mine for any less, there just aren't any better options for
the money.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: aeroncadoc@comcast.net
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale
Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're
getting up into new SR20 range there.
Henry H.
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| Subject: | Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked everything
on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from correct. Estimate it
was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far off it was of no value). Used
altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl.
Dale Walter
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:38 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Paul Besing wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
>>
>> I have the $30 subscription for XM weather right now.
>> It's fine, but the $50 one would be nice mainly for
>> the winds aloft information. It is available on the
>> 396, it's not just a 496 new item.
>>
> I think the $50 subscription is also real nice for the lightning data. I
> have seen times, like over the Guadalupe Mountains, that no echos at all
> showed up on my 396, but I could see a thunderstorm visually and by the
> lightning data. Makes me wonder about the source of the radar data
> because I know precip shows up here on NOAA sites. It is a difficult
> area for radar coverage though.
>
> Larry Pardue
> Carlsbad, NM
>
> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> http://n5lp.net
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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I'll bet there's $80-$90,000 worth of work just in the panel. And if the
builder was Paul Irlbeck, and I think it was, you couldn't have a better
builder. That man knows what he's doing.
_____
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and Megan
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:15 PM
Its a lot better airplane than the SR20....compare the stats. It is much
closer to the SR22 which is a lot more cash than that. I doubt very much I
would sell mine for any less, there just aren't any better options for the
money.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:50 PM
Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're getting up
into new SR20 range there.
Henry H.
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| Subject: | Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate |
--> RV-List message posted by: <bud27@bellsouth.net>
For what it is worth, I've been flying the 396 for a year now (I was one of
the first to get one) and I've been on the "$50" subscription ever since. I
have found the winds aloft data to be as accurate, and in most cases more
accurate than what Flight Service and Enroute Advisory Service will give
you, from all altitudes from surface to 16,000 feet (most of my flying tends
to be long cross country in excess of 500 miles one way between 4500-9500
feet).
The only problem I had (as had most all of the early purchasers) was that
the unit would not update as fast as it should sometimes...a downloaded
(free) patch from Garmin fixed that problem.
I heartedly endorse this unit...in my opinion it is the greatest single
piece of equipment ever developed...a great GPS, and a weather display that
is the next best thing to a weather radar, without the drag penalty or cost
(and if you have weather radar, it gives you the ultimate weather picture).
Bud Williams
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:16 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>
> I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked
everything
> on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from correct. Estimate
it
> was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far off it was of no value). Used
> altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl.
> Dale Walter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:38 PM
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> >
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Paul Besing wrote:
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> I have the $30 subscription for XM weather right now.
> >> It's fine, but the $50 one would be nice mainly for
> >> the winds aloft information. It is available on the
> >> 396, it's not just a 496 new item.
> >>
> > I think the $50 subscription is also real nice for the lightning data.
I
> > have seen times, like over the Guadalupe Mountains, that no echos at
all
> > showed up on my 396, but I could see a thunderstorm visually and by the
> > lightning data. Makes me wonder about the source of the radar data
> > because I know precip shows up here on NOAA sites. It is a difficult
> > area for radar coverage though.
> >
> > Larry Pardue
> > Carlsbad, NM
> >
> > RV-6 N441LP Flying
> > http://n5lp.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> > http://wiki.matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Dale Walter wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>
> I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked
> everything on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from
> correct. Estimate it was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far
> off it was of no value). Used altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl.
> Dale Walter
>
Forecasts have never been reliable and never will be, and that is
what those winds are, they are forecasts. I think the strength of
the XM weather is the observed stuff, just like in the rest of aviation.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | XM WX winds aloft not accurate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeffery J. Morgan" <jmorgan@compnetconcepts.com>
And you filed a pirep so that they could get better at it, right?
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Pardue
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:07 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Dale Walter wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>
> I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked
> everything on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from
> correct. Estimate it was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far off
> it was of no value). Used altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl.
> Dale Walter
>
Forecasts have never been reliable and never will be, and that is what
those winds are, they are forecasts. I think the strength of the XM
weather is the observed stuff, just like in the rest of aviation.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate |
>I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked
>everything on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from correct.
>Estimate it was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far off it was of no
>value). Used altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl.
>Dale Walter
You flew too low.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
No. What it took was one neighbor with nothing better to do than complain.
See more of the story at www.jaxairplane.com.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Cowper
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:43 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper)
>"We should hear both sides of the story..."
Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property rights,
I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue
plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the driveway
set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air
compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of paint
fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and now
over 8 years into the project.
It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a
county board of supervisors.
Pete Cowper
RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage)
Hanger B-5
Visalia Municipal Airport
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| Subject: | black screws for instruments |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
The brass instrument screws at
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/brassinstrscrew.php are black.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Filby
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:22 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
You can't get to the part number online at Spruce (went through
this just recently). Someone helped me out on this list - try
searching the archive. If that doesn't work - let me know I
have the part number on an invoice at home which I can get for
you tomorrow.
g
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I need a few 8-32 and 4-40 black, round head screws for mounting
> instruments. Does any one know where I can get these? I can't
> find any
> in the Spruce catalog.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A
>
>
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Nifty scale engines on display at DIA |
--> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com" <billdube@killacycle.com>
If you have the time at DIA (Denver International Airport) take a
stroll along the bridge between the main terminal and concourse A.
(Most folks take the train, and don't even realize the bridge
exists.) There is a display of about 50 (maybe 100) fully-operational
scale engines, mostly aircraft engines, some exact scale replicas,
even one Wankel! The scale Continental 85 was particularly interesting.
If you are just there for a connection, keep in mind that you will
have to pass though security to get back to the concourses. (Ugh) Be
sure you have enough time to marvel over these engines AND go back
through security.
They will be on display until September 10th.
Bill Dube'
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