---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/21/06: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:02 AM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (Richard Reynolds) 2. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Patrick Kelley) 3. 06:31 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Joseph Larson) 4. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Joseph Larson) 5. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Dana Overall) 6. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Brian Kraut) 7. 08:28 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Eric Ekberg) 8. 08:53 AM - Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (kitfoxmike) 9. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Chris W) 10. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida (Joseph Larson) 11. 09:22 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Tim Olson) 12. 09:40 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (aeroncadoc@comcast.net) 13. 09:54 AM - tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order (Mickey Coggins) 14. 10:31 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Jerry Springer) 15. 10:42 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (aeroncadoc@comcast.net) 16. 10:50 AM - Re: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order (dsvs@comcast.net) 17. 11:03 AM - Re: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order () 18. 11:27 AM - Re: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order (Richard Tasker) 19. 12:08 PM - Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. (zilik) 20. 12:11 PM - useless archive information (Jerry Springer) 21. 12:15 PM - Re: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order (Mickey Coggins) 22. 12:19 PM - Re: Fuel tank vent (zilik) 23. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? (FLYaDIVE@aol.com) 24. 01:03 PM - Re: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order (n223rv@wolflakeairport.net) 25. 03:34 PM - Re: XM WX winds aloft not accurate (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 26. 04:07 PM - Re: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. (David Burton) 27. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Major new product announcement from Vans (sportav8r@aol.com) 28. 06:21 PM - Hey Stormy, take a look (was: Major new product announcement from (Charlie England) 29. 07:30 PM - Re: Nifty scale engines on display at DIA (Brian Kraut) 30. 11:09 PM - Re: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. (Ed Holyoke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:09 AM PST US From: Richard Reynolds Subject: Re: RV-List: XM WX winds aloft not accurate I know this is going to be like the "primer war". Winds aloft forecast based on observations taken on the 20th at 8:00pm EDT (0000Z). Forecast valid on the 21st at 8:00am EDT (1200Z), for use from 5:00am EDT (0900Z) to 2:00pm EDT (1800Z). Temperatures are negative above 24,000 feet. In the last issue of IFR magazine they discussed this. Note the forecast is only valid at 1200Z. The rest is a WAG. I do not think WX Weather makes its own independent forecast. Richard Reynolds Norfolk VA RV-6A, N841RV On Jul 20, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Dale Walter wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Walter" > > I just flew from Florida to Denver, Ohio, back to Florida. Liked > everything on XM weather except the winds aloft info was far from > correct. Estimate it was significantly wrong 75 % of time (so far > off it was of no value). Used altitudes from 3,000 to 11,500 msl. > Dale Walter > > ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:38 PM > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:46 AM PST US From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" Sorry, Brian, you are not an unbiased reporter. Much as we are pre-disposed to agree with your side of things, to get the other side of the story we'd have to hear from the city council. By the way, your link to the ordinance is colored so that it is somewhat difficult to see; personally, I'd make it as contrasting as possible. Red, perhaps, or black on a red background. Pat Kelley -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:33 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" No. What it took was one neighbor with nothing better to do than complain. See more of the story at www.jaxairplane.com. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Cowper Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:43 PM --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) >"We should hear both sides of the story..." Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property rights, I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the driveway set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of paint fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and now over 8 years into the project. It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a county board of supervisors. Pete Cowper RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage) Hanger B-5 Visalia Municipal Airport ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:39 AM PST US From: Joseph Larson Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale Well, if you can buy an airplane that's better than an SR20 for less money than one, I think it might be a good deal in many ways. I suspect many (most?) of us on the list are struggling to pay for projects we're building ourselves for a lot less money than this. I know I'm wondering whether I'll be able to do the things I want to do firewall forward, just due to cost. For us, that number seems like a lot of money. But someone who would buy a new SR20 might find this a very attractive alternative. The RV-10 compares very favorably to the Cirrus, and this is a beautiful airplane with an impressive panel -- everything you might want in an airplane. And asking price isn't always selling price -- there's room to negotiate. -Joe On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ekberg wrote: > I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I doubt > he will. Someone in the know needs to let the list know how much > it goes for when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool > > Eric > do not archive > > > On 7/20/06, aeroncadoc@comcast.net wrote: > Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're > getting up into new SR20 range there. > > Henry H. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:27 AM PST US From: Joseph Larson Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson The whole thing seems fishy. We're not getting all the details. Think about it. You're a member of the city council, and you've got someone whining to you constantly, about absolutely everything. Are you going to bend over backwards to help that person? I know I'm not! If she had a history of whining about things that were really problems, I'd take her seriously. But if she whines about everything under the sun, then there's no way I'll take her seriously. Nor would I ever abuse my power and oppress everyone else in the city just to get her off my back. The most I'd do is look into the issue. There's something else going on here that we don't know about. But if I were the guy in question, I'd be soliciting ideas from folks on how to legally make this woman's life miserable -- stuff like parking clunkers in the street in front of her house or painting my house some horrible color. -Joe On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Patrick Kelley wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" > > Sorry, Brian, you are not an unbiased reporter. Much as we are pre- > disposed > to agree with your side of things, to get the other side of the > story we'd > have to hear from the city council. By the way, your link to the > ordinance > is colored so that it is somewhat difficult to see; personally, I'd > make it > as contrasting as possible. Red, perhaps, or black on a red > background. > > Pat Kelley > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:33 PM > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" > > No. What it took was one neighbor with nothing better to do than > complain. > See more of the story at www.jaxairplane.com. > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Cowper > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:43 PM > > > --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) > >> "We should hear both sides of the story..." > > Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property > rights, > I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue > plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the > driveway > set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air > compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of > paint > fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and now > over 8 years into the project. > > It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a > county board of supervisors. > > Pete Cowper > RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage) > Hanger B-5 > Visalia Municipal Airport > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:56 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" >From: "Patrick Kelley" >Sorry, Brian, you are not an unbiased reporter. Much as we are >pre-disposed >to agree with your side of things, to get the other side of the story we'd >have to hear from the city council. Patrick, as much as I would like to agree with you I have posted my experience with Brian when I camped with him at SNF last year. The two previous citations he received were both dismissed by a judge. When it gets to the point a neighbor doesn't like the color of your fence, it is time for her to get a life. Sorry to be direct but no matter how you feel about the situation Brian is in, the "fathers", using the 10 day no mayor signature bill comes into affect clause, far outreached what many consider reasonable. You certainly have your right of opinion, as do I. Brian, and other builders in the affected area, are getting screwed. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:56 AM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" You are correct. I am not an unbiased reporter, never claimed to be. I believe 100% that this is a bogus law that was passed to quiet one squeeky wheel. I also believe that two judges orders confirm that I was not doing anything wrong, but these are my biased opinion also. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" > >Sorry, Brian, you are not an unbiased reporter. Much as we are pre-disposed >to agree with your side of things, to get the other side of the story we'd >have to hear from the city council. By the way, your link to the ordinance >is colored so that it is somewhat difficult to see; personally, I'd make it >as contrasting as possible. Red, perhaps, or black on a red background. > >Pat Kelley > >-----Original Message----- >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut >Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:33 PM > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" > >No. What it took was one neighbor with nothing better to do than complain. >See more of the story at www.jaxairplane.com. > >-----Original Message----- >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Cowper >Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:43 PM > > >--> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) > >>"We should hear both sides of the story..." > >Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property rights, >I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue >plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the driveway >set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air >compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of paint >fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and now >over 8 years into the project. > >It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a >county board of supervisors. > >Pete Cowper >RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage) >Hanger B-5 >Visalia Municipal Airport > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.engalt.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:41 AM PST US From: "Eric Ekberg" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale That's a good point, but you are only considering acquisition cost, and failing to consider cost of ownership. The SR20's price 5 years down the road is somewhat predictable. What's this RV-10 going to be worth 5 years from now? It's a big risk for a business minded individual, which I assume most people with money to purchase a new cirrus are. eric - do not archive On 7/21/06, Joseph Larson wrote: > > Well, if you can buy an airplane that's better than an SR20 for less > money than one, I think it might be a good deal in many ways. I suspect > many (most?) of us on the list are struggling to pay for projects we're > building ourselves for a lot less money than this. I know I'm wondering > whether I'll be able to do the things I want to do firewall forward, just > due to cost. For us, that number seems like a lot of money. > > > But someone who would buy a new SR20 might find this a very attractive > alternative. The RV-10 compares very favorably to the Cirrus, and this is a > beautiful airplane with an impressive panel -- everything you might want in > an airplane. And asking price isn't always selling price -- there's room to > negotiate. > > > -Joe > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ekberg wrote: > > I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I doubt he > will. Someone in the know needs to let the list know how much it goes for > when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool > > Eric > do not archive > > > On 7/20/06, aeroncadoc@comcast.net wrote: > > > Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? We're > > getting up into new SR20 range there. > > > > Henry H. > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:41 AM PST US From: "kitfoxmike" Subject: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike" Cool Brian, Your on the list. Tell us more. Give us some pics of your place and your projects. Any and all info will help. -------- kitfoxmike kitfox4 1200 912ul speedster http://www.frappr.com/kitfoxmike rv7 wingkit reserved 287RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49040#49040 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:03 AM PST US From: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> Patrick Kelley wrote: > link to the ordinance >is colored so that it is somewhat difficult to see; personally, I'd make it >as contrasting as possible. Red, perhaps, or black on a red background. > > Someone in the print marketing business once told me that if you are going to have text on anything other than a white background you should use a font like Arial, and not use a font like Times New Roman. The Arial font uses fixed width lines which are easier to read where the Times New Roman font uses lines that taper and get very thin which makes them fade into that background. I have my web browser set to use Arial by default just for that reason. Making it bold is even better. do not archive. -- Chris W KE5GIX ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:59 AM PST US From: Joseph Larson Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida --> RV-List message posted by: Joseph Larson Brian, I bet everyone on this list agrees with you that this is a bogus regulation. But I think there were probably complaints from other people about things like airboats, or they wouldn't have been included in all this. You should be able to petition the city council and demand to be heard and to receive an explanation. You can also ask all your neighbors to come and publicly state they have no problems with your airplanes. I bet you could also get a lot of builders within driving distance of your home to stand in solidarity. With Unison in your area, you might be able to get a factory representative to also come. You could also run for city government yourself in order to make a difference. You could run on a campaign that starts out, "The current council has made it illegal to build model airplanes and kites in your garage. Is that the sort of city council you want?" You could get a petition campaign at Oshkosh. I bet you could get thousands of signatures on whatever petition you wanted. -Joe On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Brian Kraut wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" > > You are correct. I am not an unbiased reporter, never claimed to > be. I believe 100% that this is a bogus law that was passed to > quiet one squeeky wheel. I also believe that two judges orders > confirm that I was not doing anything wrong, but these are my > biased opinion also. > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" >> >> Sorry, Brian, you are not an unbiased reporter. Much as we are >> pre-disposed >> to agree with your side of things, to get the other side of the >> story we'd >> have to hear from the city council. By the way, your link to the >> ordinance >> is colored so that it is somewhat difficult to see; personally, >> I'd make it >> as contrasting as possible. Red, perhaps, or black on a red >> background. >> >> Pat Kelley >> >> -----Original Message----- >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:33 PM >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" >> >> No. What it took was one neighbor with nothing better to do than >> complain. >> See more of the story at www.jaxairplane.com. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete Cowper >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:43 PM >> >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) >> >>> "We should hear both sides of the story..." >> >> Much as I detest governmental inferference with private property >> rights, >> I can just picture it: Carport made from pvc sprinkler pipe and blue >> plastic Harbor Freight tarps, plywood work table alongside the >> driveway >> set up on two rusty 55 gallon oil drums, cheap noisy oil-less air >> compressor running all day and night, rivet gun ringing, stench of >> paint >> fumes sucked into the whole neighborhood's swamp coolers . . . and >> now >> over 8 years into the project. >> >> It takes a real nuisance to get a city council involved let alone a >> county board of supervisors. >> >> Pete Cowper >> RV8 #81139 (working on fuselage) >> Hanger B-5 >> Visalia Municipal Airport >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.engalt.com > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:55 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson I've thought about this one too. Yes, performance wise we're probably closer to the SR22, but realistically, even a beautifully crafted homebuilt will probably still not be on par with a factory Cirrus from a luxury and interior point of view. So they'll never compete head to head on price. Honestly, the RV-10 is a poor man's cirrus. Those who are in the market for an SR-22 probably wouldn't want a -10. Those looking for a 182 might just give a testicle or two for a 10. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Eric Ekberg wrote: > That's a good point, but you are only considering acquisition cost, and > failing to consider cost of ownership. The SR20's price 5 years down > the road is somewhat predictable. What's this RV-10 going to be worth 5 > years from now? It's a big risk for a business minded individual, which > I assume most people with money to purchase a new cirrus are. > eric - do not archive > > On 7/21/06, *Joseph Larson* > > wrote: > > Well, if you can buy an airplane that's better than an SR20 for less > money than one, I think it might be a good deal in many ways. I > suspect many (most?) of us on the list are struggling to pay for > projects we're building ourselves for a lot less money than this. I > know I'm wondering whether I'll be able to do the things I want to > do firewall forward, just due to cost. For us, that number seems > like a lot of money. > > > But someone who would buy a new SR20 might find this a very > attractive alternative. The RV-10 compares very favorably to the > Cirrus, and this is a beautiful airplane with an impressive panel -- > everything you might want in an airplane. And asking price isn't > always selling price -- there's room to negotiate. > > > -Joe > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ekberg wrote: > > I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I doubt > he will. Someone in the know needs to let the list know how much it > goes for when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool > > Eric > do not archive > > > On 7/20/06, * aeroncadoc@comcast.net > * > wrote: > > Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price? > We're getting up into new SR20 range there. > > Henry H. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:48 AM PST US From: aeroncadoc@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 for sale -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson > >. Those looking for a > 182 might just give a testicle or two for a 10. > ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN!
 
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________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:52 AM PST US From: dsvs@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order --> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net Mickey, Snapon Tools has an online store and sells snap ring pliers down to 0.039 in diameter. I'm not sure that that is small enough for what you need, but, if it is give them a try. Their stuff is the best quality in tools available. Don -------------- Original message ---------------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > Hi, > > Anyone know where I can get some really small tip > circlip pliers for the matco parking brake and > the master cylinders? I can't seem to source > them locally, so I need a mail order source. > > Thanks, > Mickey > -- > Mickey Coggins > http://www.rv8.ch/ > #82007 finishing > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:18 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Don has good advice here. I used my Blue Point (Snap On's budget or vendor made brand) Model PR-327 reversible snap ring pliers to remove and install that snap ring on the Matco parking brake valve. This is a set of straight nosed pliers. The corresponding 90 degree angle pliers are Model PR-129 These pliers can be used for both internal AND external snap rings. Similar units are sold by Mac Tools, Matco Tools and Cornwell Tools. Odds are, you can borrow a pair from a friend who is a professional auto mechanic. I can't imagine anyone doing this professionally without these tools. Charlie Kuss C&E Automotive owner Pompano Beach, Florida ---- dsvs@comcast.net wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net > > Mickey, > Snapon Tools has an online store and sells snap ring pliers down to 0.039 in diameter. I'm not sure that that is small enough for what you need, but, if it is give them a try. Their stuff is the best quality in tools available. Don > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > > > Hi, > > > > Anyone know where I can get some really small tip > > circlip pliers for the matco parking brake and > > the master cylinders? I can't seem to source > > them locally, so I need a mail order source. > > > > Thanks, > > Mickey > > -- > > Mickey Coggins > > http://www.rv8.ch/ > > #82007 finishing ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:26 AM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV-List: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker McMaster Carr has a selection of pliers. I think I offered before, but if they cannot ship to you easily, I would be willing to get them and ship to you. We order from McMaster frequently and they are just a few miles down the road. Dick Tasker Mickey Coggins wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > Hi, > > Anyone know where I can get some really small tip > circlip pliers for the matco parking brake and > the master cylinders? I can't seem to source > them locally, so I need a mail order source. > > Thanks, > Mickey ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:40 PM PST US From: "zilik" Subject: RV-List: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. --> RV-List message posted by: "zilik" My trip stopping events. ElectroAir Ignition Sense Wire broke, fixed in Fort Pierce, FL. Alternator failed and had it rebuilt in Dothan, Al. Slick Ignition lead failed, replace in Souix City, IA Flat nose tire, replace tube in Greely, CO. Failures that I have help fix on other peoples planes. Flat Tires, Greely, CO Brake caliper seal replacement, Boise, ID. Slick Lasar Mags, Replaced in Stella Maris, Long Island, Bahamas Gary Zilik Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49100#49100 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:16 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: RV-List: useless archive information --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer I really don't care what you write, it is just that this list has deteriorated so much from what its original intentions were. Most of the stuff written here is good information and should be talked about but a good share of it does not belong in the archive as it is useless for using as builders help and tips. A couple of years from now someone will see what was written below and not have a clue as to what it was about. So that puts it in the useless archive information. Yes my response will show up in the archive also as I put a space in archive, SHAME ON ME but at least I tried. Jerry do not archive aeroncadoc@comcast.net wrote: > Another sourpuss. > > Do not archive > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Jerry Springer > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer > > > > aeroncadoc@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. Those looking for a > > > > 182 might just give a testicle or two for a 10. > > > > > > > ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN! > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is great information to have in the archive's thanks > > > > > > > > do not arc hive < ====== ================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:26 PM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: Re: RV-List: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins You guys are great - thanks for the info. I couldn't think of another term for the circlip pliers, but once I searched on snap ring pliers, the world opened up. I've got my sister sending me a "care package" in the next couple of days, so I'll add this on. Thanks again, Mickey Richard Tasker wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker > > McMaster Carr has a selection of pliers. I think I offered before, but > if they cannot ship to you easily, I would be willing to get them and > ship to you. We order from McMaster frequently and they are just a few > miles down the road. > > Dick Tasker > > Mickey Coggins wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins >> >> Hi, >> >> Anyone know where I can get some really small tip >> circlip pliers for the matco parking brake and >> the master cylinders? I can't seem to source >> them locally, so I need a mail order source. >> >> Thanks, >> Mickey > -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:44 PM PST US From: "zilik" Subject: RV-List: Re: Fuel tank vent --> RV-List message posted by: "zilik" We had a local builder that forgot to tighten the B nut on the vent line inside the tank. The full tank caught the afternoon sun while sitting in the hanger and started to drip just like they all do when the tanks are full. This one did not stop, just a steady stream started coming out and flooding the hangar floor. I pulled the cap and stuck my finger over the vent but that did not stop it. Since the owner was not there we put a five gallon bucket under the drain and closed the hangar door. About 2 gallons of fuel drained out before it stopped. Removing the tank and tightening the B nut fixed the problem. Gary Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49107#49107 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:07 PM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? --> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com My Plane: Impulse coupler - Slick Mag Dead Battery Detonation - BAD FUEL - Lousy AvGas! - New Engine - Thank you! Other people's planes: Flaps - Failure to retract Flaps - out of rig Dead Battery Battery - Broken cap (sealed battery) Battery - Corrosion Position lights - NAV Alternator Field CB - Burnt - By passed with inline fuse Alternator Housing - Loose Alternator Belt - Broke Alternator B+ - Broke wire MAG Switch - Internal Ground - Grounded both Mags (P leads) Boost Pump - Clogged with debris - added auto filter Nose Strut - Low Vacuum Pump - Failure - replaced Strobe Noise - Shielded wire and Radio Shack filter Master Switch - High internal resistance - replaced Radio Problems (many) - CLEANED CONTACTS and GROUNDS I carry a 45 pound tool box --- 'Have tools - Will Travel' Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:19 PM PST US From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net Subject: Re: RV-List: tiny circlip pliers needed via mail order --> RV-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net Bought mine at the autoparts store, came with interchangeable tips and on set was tiny. -Mike > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > Hi, > > Anyone know where I can get some really small tip > circlip pliers for the matco parking brake and > the master cylinders? I can't seem to source > them locally, so I need a mail order source. > > Thanks, > Mickey > -- > Mickey Coggins > http://www.rv8.ch/ > #82007 finishing > > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:39 PM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: XM WX winds aloft not accurate I have had my 396 almost a year and use it in the RV7 and the company Citation. Have not noticed any significant errors in winds. The best part for my use is the WX. Prefer it to the radar. My BIGGEST problem is the XM antenna is intermittent and appears to be in the plug. I can wiggle the wire and make it connect sometimes. Have used someone else's antenna and it works fine.I hope to get this resolved with Garmin at OSH. Anyone else with this problem? Doug Preston DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:40 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" I've had two alternator failures and a total electrical failure caused by a broken wire to the ignition switch. Flaps failed full down caused by a broken fuse holder. That came close to an off field landing since I was practicing slow flight and was away from the airport. I've had a couple of failed spark plugs. I don't carry one, but I have the tools to clean and change them. I was unable to repair (and did not need to do anything) about two different cracked cylinders, one on a 540, one on an 0-320. Both diagnosed and repaired back home. The symptom both times was power loss and change in EGT. When I notice a change in engine performance I try and get on the ground and diagnose the problem. I'm OK flying with a known issue once I'm sure of the reason. I don't want a minor problem turning into a big one just because I was too lazy to land. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:27 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Major new product announcement from Vans Lawyer: the best possible landing is one you can walk away from, but your neck hurts. -Stormy /not a lawyer/ -----Original Message----- Sent: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:51 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" My instructor told me if I walk away its a good landing...if I can fly the plane again, that's a great landing. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:12 PM > --> RV-List message posted by: pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper) > > >"I'll guess its air bags to deploy in a crash" > > So how will it tell the difference between a crash and one of my normal > crappy landings?!! > > Pete Cowper > RV-8 #81139 > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:16 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: RV-List: Hey Stormy, take a look (was: Major new product announcement from --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, it's a light twin. But if you want a second opinion, I'll say > a rigid airship with prepunched aluminum inner skeleton. > > BTW, why are there no homebuilt blimps flying? Can't be that hard > with modern envelope materials, and a single seater would be way cool :-) > > -Stormy http://www.personalblimp.com/ See rec.aviation.homebuilt for some posts from the builder. Charlie @ Slobovia Outernational ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:38 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: RV-List: Nifty scale engines on display at DIA --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" Thanks for the tip. I would love to see them, but I don't get to Denver. I looked them up and found some information here http://www.flydenver.com/guide/art/exhibits.asp They come from a museum in Tempe, AZ who has a site here http://www.engine-museum.com/ I have been wanting to build some model radial engines for years, but don't have the time. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of BillDube@killacycle.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:26 AM --> RV-List message posted by: "BillDube@killacycle.com" If you have the time at DIA (Denver International Airport) take a stroll along the bridge between the main terminal and concourse A. (Most folks take the train, and don't even realize the bridge exists.) There is a display of about 50 (maybe 100) fully-operational scale engines, mostly aircraft engines, some exact scale replicas, even one Wankel! The scale Continental 85 was particularly interesting. If you are just there for a connection, keep in mind that you will have to pass though security to get back to the concourses. (Ugh) Be sure you have enough time to marvel over these engines AND go back through security. They will be on display until September 10th. Bill Dube' ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:09:14 PM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: What have you had to fix on the road? Was XC toolkit. --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Had an exhaust gasket fail and pipe fall off 1500 miles from the house. Now I've got an extra gasket and exhaust nuts in the tool kit. In addition to a combination wrench set, 1/4" drive socket set, screwdrivers and pliers and such, I carry cardboard mixing cups for removed hardware control, a garbage bag, electrical and duct tape, zip ties and a selection of screws, nuts and washers and a couple of spark plugs. I also have hand cleaner and shop towels. When the airplane is heavy with baggage, I secure the kit just aft of the battery box on the floor (RV-6a) to help with CG. Pax, Ed Holyoke