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1. 03:36 AM - New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - Long (alan@reichertech.com)
2. 03:53 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - L... (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
3. 05:42 AM - Re: Fossil energy fuel to produce ethanol (Bob 1)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (sportav8r@aol.com)
5. 07:31 AM - garmin GMA 340 installation manual (sportav8r@aol.com)
6. 07:51 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (Don Hall)
7. 07:52 AM - Re: garmin GMA 340 installation manual (dsvs@comcast.net)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (Bob Perkinson)
9. 08:48 AM - Re: WTB - RV-6A or RV-7A (John Danielson)
10. 08:57 AM - Re: garmin GMA 340 installation manual (sportav8r@aol.com)
11. 09:25 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in (JOHN STARN)
12. 09:30 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (sportav8r@aol.com)
13. 09:38 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (sportav8r@aol.com)
14. 09:42 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in (sportav8r@aol.com)
15. 09:46 AM - Question on the EIS monitor (bertrv6@highstream.net)
16. 09:52 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 10:06 AM - Re: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount (bertrv6@highstream.net)
18. 10:14 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
19. 10:24 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Chuck Jensen)
20. 10:45 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill (Ron Lee)
21. 10:45 AM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - (Don Hall)
22. 12:31 PM - Morse Code (Tom Gummo)
23. 12:42 PM - Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 (JOHN STARN)
24. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 (Terry Watson)
25. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 (sportav8r@aol.com)
26. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 (JOHN STARN)
27. 02:56 PM - Fw: Van's RV-12 (Dale Ensing)
28. 03:54 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (JOHN STARN)
29. 04:46 PM - RV-10 Versus Cirrus (Morocketman@aol.com)
30. 05:12 PM - Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in (Ed Bundy)
31. 06:32 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (Mark Grieve)
32. 06:55 PM - Lycoming pre-oiling ()
33. 06:55 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (Kyle Boatright)
34. 06:55 PM - Anti Aviation Bill in Jacksonville (Brian Kraut)
35. 07:09 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (David Burton)
36. 07:21 PM - Re: Lycoming pre-oiling (Kyle Boatright)
37. 08:52 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (Paul Besing)
38. 10:34 PM - Re: Anti Aviation Bill in Jacksonville (Ed Holyoke)
39. 11:27 PM - Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
- Long
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:19:32 PM PST US
> From: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - Long
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
>
> [alone and crickets chirping]
> Eh, er, well, I don't think I'd want a neighbor like Brian. As far as the
> legal aspect, I sympathize with him. I generally don't like more and more
> laws for all aspects of life. Aside from that, Brian seems to perpetually
> have two planes under construction somewhere on his property. That's
> doesn't seem like a typical homebuilder unless he's trying to build his
> own
> personal invasion fleet for a war against Amelia Island. I'd hate it if
> the guy next to me always had two cars under restoration in his yard and
> garage. Whether legal or not, it's not neighborhood friendly, and it
> sounds
> like Brian met his Bizarro with that neighbor.
>
> Brian,
>
> I have some suggestions for you. Remove the planes to offsite storage and
> invest your money in becoming the ultimate bad neighbor:
> 1) Erect a 50 foot ham radio tower in the back yard.
> 2) Start to build a new front porch and quit part way through the project.
> 3) Plant weeds in your yard.
> 4) Christmas lights all year long.
> 5) Use some old tires somewhere in your landscaping plans.
> 6) Make a weathervane out of a vert stab!
> 7) Find out the political persuasion of your neighbor and post support
> signs
> for the other party politicians. The guy sounds smart and crabby, so
> probably a republican (like me 'cept for the smart part).
> 8) A flock of rusty pink flamingos sounds about right for a true
> Floridian.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 fuselage
> http://rv7.donka.net
> ******************************************
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
- L...
--> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
What! Only a 50 foot tower?
Mine is 91 feet.
And I need some pink flamingos ... send them up to NJ
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
"Show them the first time, correct them the second time, kick them the third
time."
Yamashiada
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| Subject: | Re: Fossil energy fuel to produce ethanol |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
I just love the morons that push electric
vehicles as a zero emissions vehicle. Just because they don't have a
tail pipe doesn't mean they create no emissions. The emissions are just
displaced to where ever the electricity is generated to charge their
batteries.
do not archive
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Chris W
KE5GIX
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Dear Chris,
Think....
SOLAR PANELS. ;-)
- No moron Bob -
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
-
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:19:32 PM PST US
> From: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - Long
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
>
> [alone and crickets chirping]
> Eh, er, well, I don't think I'd want a neighbor like Brian. As far as the
> legal aspect, I sympathize with him. I generally don't like more and more
> laws for all aspects of life. Aside from that, Brian seems to perpetually
> have two planes under construction somewhere on his property. That's
> doesn't seem like a typical homebuilder unless he's trying to build his
> own
> personal invasion fleet for a war against Amelia Island. I'd hate it if
> the guy next to me always had two cars under restoration in his yard and
> garage. Whether legal or not, it's not neighborhood friendly, and it
> sounds
> like Brian met his Bizarro with that neighbor.
>
> Brian,
>
> I have some suggestions for you. Remove the planes to offsite storage and
> invest your money in becoming the ultimate bad neighbor:
> 1) Erect a 50 foot ham radio tower in the back yard.
> 2) Start to build a new front porch and quit part way through the project.
> 3) Plant weeds in your yard.
> 4) Christmas lights all year long.
> 5) Use some old tires somewhere in your landscaping plans.
> 6) Make a weathervane out of a vert stab!
> 7) Find out the political persuasion of your neighbor and post support
> signs
> for the other party politicians. The guy sounds smart and crabby, so
> probably a republican (like me 'cept for the smart part).
> 8) A flock of rusty pink flamingos sounds about right for a true
> Floridian.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 fuselage
> http://rv7.donka.net
> ******************************************
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | garmin GMA 340 installation manual |
Anyone have a lead on finding the GMA 340 audio panel installation manual online?
I found the Pilot's Guide but can't locate a URL for the install manual pdf
file. Not sure it even exits in that form. I can order one for 20 bucks but
thought I'd ask here first.
Thanks.
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
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Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net <http://rv7.donka.net/>
******************************************
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportav8r@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:32 AM
Florida -
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
<mailto:alan%40reichertech.com>
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:19:32 PM PST US
> From: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net <mailto:dhall%40donka.net> >
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - Long
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net
<mailto:dhall%40donka.net> >
>
>
> [alone and crickets chirping]
> Eh, er, well, I don't think I'd want a neighbor like Brian. As far as the
> legal aspect, I sympathize with him. I generally don't like more and more
> laws for all aspects of life. Aside from that, Brian seems to perpetually
> have two planes under construction somewhere on his property. That's
> doesn't seem like a typical homebuilder unless he's trying to build his
> own
> personal invasion fleet for a war against Amelia Island. I'd hate it if
> the guy next to me always had two cars under restoration in his yard and
> garage. Whether legal or not, it's not neighborhood friendly, and it
> sounds
> like Brian met his Bizarro with that neighbor.
>
> Brian,
>
> I have some suggestions for you. Remove the planes to offsite storage and
> invest your money in becoming the ultimate bad neighbor:
> 1) Erect a 50 foot ham radio tower in the back yard.
> 2) Start to build a new front porch and quit part way through the project.
> 3) Plant weeds in your yard.
> 4) Christmas lights all year long.
> 5) Use some old tires somewhere in your landscaping plans.
> 6) Make a weathervane out of a vert stab!
> 7) Find out the political persuasion of your neighbor and post support
> signs
> for the other party politicians. The guy sounds smart and crabby, so
> probably a republican (like me 'cept for the smart part).
> 8) A flock of rusty pink flamingos sounds about right for a true
> Floridian.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 fuselage
> http://rv7.donka.net
> ******************************************
_____
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| Subject: | Re: garmin GMA 340 installation manual |
Stormy,
I have it on PDF. I'll send you a copy tonight when I get home from work. Send
me an off line message to remind me. Don VS
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> Anyone have a lead on finding the GMA 340 audio panel installation manual
> online? I found the Pilot's Guide but can't locate a URL for the install manual
> pdf file. Not sure it even exits in that form. I can order one for 20 bucks
> but thought I'd ask here first.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Stormy
> ________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
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c q n e a h a m f r i e n d
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Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
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Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net
******************************************
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportav8r@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:32 AM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in
Florida -
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
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| Subject: | WTB - RV-6A or RV-7A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
Check out Barnstormers.com
John L. Danielson
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:58 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
This is for another individual. We have looked at Trade-A-Plane.
If there are other good web sources please email the link.
Preferences as best known at this time
1) IO-360 preferred [O-360 may be ok]. Engine must be low time new
2) CS prop preferred
3) Blue Mountain type avionics preferred
4) Slider preferred
Ron Lee
ronlee@pcisys.net
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| Subject: | Re: garmin GMA 340 installation manual |
Frank G. came to my rescue already. Thanks for the offer.
This is why I love the RV list. Even when all of us should be at Oshkosh, I can
still get help 24/7 ;-)
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:52 AM
Stormy,
I have it on PDF. I'll send you a copy tonight when I get home from work. Send
me an off line message to remind me. Don VS
-------------- Original message ----------------------
> Anyone have a lead on finding the GMA 340 audio panel installation manual
> online? I found the Pilot's Guide but can't locate a URL for the install
manual
> pdf file. Not sure it even exits in that form. I can order one for 20 bucks
> but thought I'd ask here first.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Stormy
> ________________________________________________________________________
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Anyone have a lead on finding the GMA 340 audio panel installation manual online?
I found the Pilot's Guide but can't locate a URL for the install manual pdf
file. Not sure it even exits in that form. I can order one for 20 bucks but
thought I'd ask here first.
Thanks.
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in |
Think that message was for somebody named Morris.
BUT also the more things change, the more they remain the same.
Do Not Archive. KABONG 8*)
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Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
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Stormy
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Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
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Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net
******************************************
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:32 AM
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
-
FYI, there is a Flying Hams group at Yahoo. I've been a member for a few weeks;
definitely not much happening there, but maybe it's the start of something.
If the hams in this thread sign up, membership will nearly double :-)
-Stormy
N4DLN
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Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:50 AM
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N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net
******************************************
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:32 AM
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
do not archive
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:19:32 PM PST US
> From: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida - Long
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
>
> [alone and crickets chirping]
> Eh, er, well, I don't think I'd want a neighbor like Brian. As far as the
> legal aspect, I sympathize with him. I generally don't like more and more
> laws for all aspects of life. Aside from that, Brian seems to perpetually
> have two planes under construction somewhere on his property. That's
> doesn't seem like a typical homebuilder unless he's trying to build his
> own
> personal invasion fleet for a war against Amelia Island. I'd hate it if
> the guy next to me always had two cars under restoration in his yard and
> garage. Whether legal or not, it's not neighborhood friendly, and it
> sounds
> like Brian met his Bizarro with that neighbor.
>
> Brian,
>
> I have some suggestions for you. Remove the planes to offsite storage and
> invest your money in becoming the ultimate bad neighbor:
> 1) Erect a 50 foot ham radio tower in the back yard.
> 2) Start to build a new front porch and quit part way through the project.
> 3) Plant weeds in your yard.
> 4) Christmas lights all year long.
> 5) Use some old tires somewhere in your landscaping plans.
> 6) Make a weathervane out of a vert stab!
> 7) Find out the political persuasion of your neighbor and post support
> signs
> for the other party politicians. The guy sounds smart and crabby, so
> probably a republican (like me 'cept for the smart part).
> 8) A flock of rusty pink flamingos sounds about right for a true
> Floridian.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 fuselage
> http://rv7.donka.net
> ******************************************
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in |
Yup, Morris code.
Named for Samuel F. B. ("fine business") Morris.
We all had to learn it to ID the VOR stations, right? Now they print the dits
and dahs on the sectional, allowing "no-code" technicians (airplane drivers) to
fly without having to do all that memorization. That's someone's idea of progress,
no doubt.
-Stormy
bored, at work and not at OSH...
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:24 PM
Think that message was for somebody named Morris.
BUT also the more things change, the more they remain the same.
Do Not Archive. KABONG 8*)
-.. --- / -. --- - / .- .-. -.-. .... .. ...- .
do not archive
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
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| Subject: | Question on the EIS monitor |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hello:
Would like to communicate with some one that has installed and is using
the Grand Rapid's Engine monitor EIS 4000.
Have some questions, on procedure for programing some items...
and also, a question or two, on connection to mags...
Thanks
Bert
rv6aFlying
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Ya, I was giggling at the new asking price listed for the 182 at OSH.
Something like $355k. Makes me want to pull up along side one and ask
if they want to race and they could have their choice of climb, cruise,
or useful load. :-)
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:21 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I've thought about this one too. Yes, performance wise we're probably
closer to the SR22, but realistically, even a beautifully crafted
homebuilt will probably still not be on par with a factory Cirrus from a
luxury and interior point of view. So they'll never compete head to
head on price. Honestly, the RV-10 is a poor man's cirrus. Those who
are in the market for an SR-22 probably wouldn't want a -10. Those
looking for a
182 might just give a testicle or two for a 10.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Eric Ekberg wrote:
> That's a good point, but you are only considering acquisition cost,
> and failing to consider cost of ownership. The SR20's price 5 years
> down the road is somewhat predictable. What's this RV-10 going to be
> worth 5 years from now? It's a big risk for a business minded
> individual, which I assume most people with money to purchase a new
cirrus are.
> eric - do not archive
>
> On 7/21/06, *Joseph Larson* <jpl@showpage.org
> <mailto:jpl@showpage.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Well, if you can buy an airplane that's better than an SR20 for
less
> money than one, I think it might be a good deal in many ways. I
> suspect many (most?) of us on the list are struggling to pay for
> projects we're building ourselves for a lot less money than this.
I
> know I'm wondering whether I'll be able to do the things I want to
> do firewall forward, just due to cost. For us, that number seems
> like a lot of money.
>
>
> But someone who would buy a new SR20 might find this a very
> attractive alternative. The RV-10 compares very favorably to the
> Cirrus, and this is a beautiful airplane with an impressive panel
--
> everything you might want in an airplane. And asking price isn't
> always selling price -- there's room to negotiate.
>
>
> -Joe
>
> On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ekberg wrote:
>
> I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I
doubt
> he will. Someone in the know needs to let the list know how much
it
> goes for when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool
>
> Eric
> do not archive
>
>
> On 7/20/06, * aeroncadoc@comcast.net
> <mailto:aeroncadoc@comcast.net>* <aeroncadoc@comcast.net
> <mailto:aeroncadoc@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price?
> We're getting up into new SR20 range there.
>
> Henry H.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
>
> My 1989 mount does ot have any reenforcement and I have not heard of a
> problem with -6 mounts cracking but like Dave my memory may have
> gone south with everything else. :-)
>
>
> Jerry
>
> D.Bristol wrote:
>
> > Maybe it's because no one wants to admit that they don't know what
> > you're talking about. My kit was a '96 and I've never heard of this
> > problem, of course with my memory, that doesn't mean much! But I
> > couldn't find any mention of it in the archives or on Van's website. I
> > also looked at an index of early 90's RVators and found nothing, so I
> > wouldn't know just what to take a picture of.
> > Maybe you could give us a little more information, like the year and
> > some reference to information on the problem?
> >
> > Dave B. -6 So Cal
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Doug Gray wrote:
> >
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
> >>
> >>Would someone be kind enough to send me a photo of the re-enforcement
> >>around the lower end of the gear leg socket on a recent engine mount.
> >>
> >>I'm beginning to wonder if this list has been abandoned by actual RV
> >>builders.
> >>
> >>Doug
> >>
> >>On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:47 +1000, Doug Gray wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
> >>>
> >>>Folks,
> >>>I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear
> >>>socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have
> >>>experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.
> >>>
> >>>My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear
> >>>direction how they are positioned. Can someone point me to a clear
> >>>photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are
> >>>fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.
> >>>
> >>>Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the
> >>>welder.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Doug Gray
> >>>Sydney, Australia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Doug:
Like any one else, I am pussled by you commnents. I have an rv6a, of yr.
99 or so... of course, I bought the Engine mount from Vans, with everything
else...If you are talking about, that you built, or are building your own
Engine mount, that is a different thing...
The engine mount, that comes with the kit from Vans, is ready to install.
Nothing else has to be added, welded, it comes painted,,,rust proffed...
Would like to know what are you talking about...OH my Engine es a Lycoming
0320ed in case...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>bert
do not archive
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in |
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-.. . - . - - - - - . - . . - . . . . .
notice my slower code speed .....
Phil in Illinois driving to Osh Tomorrow
Do not archive
> FYI, there is a Flying Hams group at Yahoo. I've been a member for a
> few weeks; definitely not much happening there, but maybe it's the
> start of something.
>
> If the hams in this thread sign up, membership will nearly double :-)
>
> -Stormy
> N4DLN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:50 AM
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
I can understand the $355K for a C182...what I can understand is anyone
paying it.
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV
> Builder (Michael Sausen)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:51 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 for sale
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
> --> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Ya, I was giggling at the new asking price listed for the 182
> at OSH. Something like $355k. Makes me want to pull up along
> side one and ask if they want to race and they could have
> their choice of climb, cruise, or useful load. :-)
>
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:21 AM
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I've thought about this one too. Yes, performance wise we're
> probably closer to the SR22, but realistically, even a
> beautifully crafted homebuilt will probably still not be on
> par with a factory Cirrus from a luxury and interior point of
> view. So they'll never compete head to head on price.
> Honestly, the RV-10 is a poor man's cirrus. Those who are in
> the market for an SR-22 probably wouldn't want a -10. Those
> looking for a 182 might just give a testicle or two for a 10.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Eric Ekberg wrote:
> > That's a good point, but you are only considering acquisition cost,
> > and failing to consider cost of ownership. The SR20's
> price 5 years
> > down the road is somewhat predictable. What's this RV-10
> going to be
> > worth 5 years from now? It's a big risk for a business minded
> > individual, which I assume most people with money to purchase a new
> cirrus are.
> > eric - do not archive
> >
> > On 7/21/06, *Joseph Larson* <jpl@showpage.org
> > <mailto:jpl@showpage.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you can buy an airplane that's better than an SR20 for
> less
> > money than one, I think it might be a good deal in many ways. I
> > suspect many (most?) of us on the list are struggling to pay for
> > projects we're building ourselves for a lot less money
> than this.
> I
> > know I'm wondering whether I'll be able to do the
> things I want to
> > do firewall forward, just due to cost. For us, that
> number seems
> > like a lot of money.
> >
> >
> > But someone who would buy a new SR20 might find this a very
> > attractive alternative. The RV-10 compares very
> favorably to the
> > Cirrus, and this is a beautiful airplane with an
> impressive panel
> --
> > everything you might want in an airplane. And asking
> price isn't
> > always selling price -- there's room to negotiate.
> >
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > I hope he gets what he's asking ...for obvious reasons, but I
> doubt
> > he will. Someone in the know needs to let the list
> know how much
> it
> > goes for when it sells... maybe we can start a betting pool
> >
> > Eric
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > On 7/20/06, * aeroncadoc@comcast.net
> > <mailto:aeroncadoc@comcast.net>* <aeroncadoc@comcast.net
> > <mailto:aeroncadoc@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, how realistic is that asking price?
> > We're getting up into new SR20 range there.
> >
> > Henry H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>We all had to learn it to ID the VOR stations, right? Now they print the
>dits and dahs on the sectional, allowing "no-code" technicians (airplane
>drivers) to fly without having to do all that memorization. That's
>someone's idea of progress, no doubt.
Even better is that modern technology should allow a VOICE ID
instead of verifying antiquated morse code .
Ron Lee
do not archive
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| Subject: | New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in Florida |
-
oops, darn spell checker didn't catch that .
-.-. --.- -.. . .- .... .- -- ..-. .-. .. . -. -..
c q d e a h a m f r i e n d
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******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net <http://rv7.donka.net/>
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Perkinson
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:32 AM
Florida -
-.-. --.- -. . .- .... .- -- ..-. .-. .. . -. -..
c q n e a h a m f r i e n d
-.. --- / -. --- - / .- .-. -.-. .... .. ...- .
do not archive
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 fuselage
http://rv7.donka.net <http://rv7.donka.net/>
******************************************
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportav8r@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:32 AM
Florida -
Yeah, what Alan said.
I can think of worse things to do when the wx is lousy.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 6:08 AM
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
<mailto:alan%40reichertech.com>
What do you have against ham radio operators, Mr Hall?
- Alan
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> ____________________________________
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Personally, as a slightly dyslexic student pilot in UPT class 73-05
(USAF Undergraduate Pilot Training - 1973), I was very happy to be in
the first class that didn't have to learn Morse code at 5 words per
minute.
Now with GPS, there is no need to listen to identifiers. :-)
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1573
USAF, Major Retired
F-4G Instructor Pilot (All flyable F-4Gs have been shot down as drones -
It still hurts)
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II, N561FS, 280 hours and still a big smile on my face.
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill
in
Yup, Morris code.
Named for Samuel F. B. ("fine business") Morris.
We all had to learn it to ID the VOR stations, right? Now they print
the dits and dahs on the sectional, allowing "no-code" technicians
(airplane drivers) to fly without having to do all that memorization.
That's someone's idea of progress, no doubt.
-Stormy
bored, at work and not at OSH...
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:24 PM
Think that message was for somebody named Morris.
BUT also the more things change, the more they remain the same.
Do Not Archive. KABONG 8*)
-.. --- / -. --- - / .- .-. -.-. .... .. ...- .
do not archive
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> Announcement is that the RV-8 fuselage is now completely prepunched along
> with an update to the plans.
> Bob
YGBSM, as my Wild Weasel partner would say. Below is a direct reprint copy
from the Van's site.
Wonder how many people at OSH are looking, asking question about the
"new" -8 prepunched format compared to those drooling over the prototype
RV-12. Prepunched RV-4...maybe...but that would screw up all the HRII
builder sales Van's does. Where are photos of the RV-12 ? ? Somebody has to
have taken some. Are they taking "escrow" orders for the RV-12 yet ? ? Can
you get/fax/e-mail me an RV-12 order form ? ?
Now that would be a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. KABONG HRII waiting for the
RV-12.
"In RV-7/8/9/10 kits, rivet and bolt holes are pre-punched into all the
parts. It is hard to overstate just how much labor and difficulty
matched-hole pre-punching saves. All part alignments, fastener spacings and
measurements are set at the factory. When the builder aligns the holes, the
parts must be in the correct position. An RV builder is assembling an
airplane, not building one from scratch."
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Go to vansaircraft.net (Doug Reeve's Vans Air Force website) and scroll down
a bit and you will see a tiny picture of the RV-12. Click on that and it
will answer a couple of your questions.
Terry
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:40 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> Announcement is that the RV-8 fuselage is now completely prepunched along
> with an update to the plans.
> Bob
YGBSM, as my Wild Weasel partner would say. Below is a direct reprint copy
from the Van's site.
Wonder how many people at OSH are looking, asking question about the
"new" -8 prepunched format compared to those drooling over the prototype
RV-12. Prepunched RV-4...maybe...but that would screw up all the HRII
builder sales Van's does. Where are photos of the RV-12 ? ? Somebody has to
have taken some. Are they taking "escrow" orders for the RV-12 yet ? ? Can
you get/fax/e-mail me an RV-12 order form ? ?
Now that would be a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. KABONG HRII waiting for the
RV-12.
"In RV-7/8/9/10 kits, rivet and bolt holes are pre-punched into all the
parts. It is hard to overstate just how much labor and difficulty
matched-hole pre-punching saves. All part alignments, fastener spacings and
measurements are set at the factory. When the builder aligns the holes, the
parts must be in the correct position. An RV builder is assembling an
airplane, not building one from scratch."
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 |
Doug Reeves has lots of -12 pix on his site today.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 3:39 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> Announcement is that the RV-8 fuselage is now completely prepunched along > with
an update to the plans.
> Bob
YGBSM, as my Wild Weasel partner would say. Below is a direct reprint copy from
the Van's site.
Wonder how many people at OSH are looking, asking question about the "new" -8 prepunched
format compared to those drooling over the prototype RV-12. Prepunched
RV-4...maybe...but that would screw up all the HRII builder sales Van's does.
Where are photos of the RV-12 ? ? Somebody has to have taken some. Are they
taking "escrow" orders for the RV-12 yet ? ? Can you get/fax/e-mail me an RV-12
order form ? ?
Now that would be a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. KABONG HRII waiting for the RV-12.
"In RV-7/8/9/10 kits, rivet and bolt holes are pre-punched into all the parts.
It is hard to overstate just how much labor and difficulty matched-hole pre-punching
saves. All part alignments, fastener spacings and measurements are set
at the factory. When the builder aligns the holes, the parts must be in the correct
position. An RV builder is assembling an airplane, not building one from
scratch."
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/23/06 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Thanks, went there and also scrolled down to "Pic's of RV-12 by Mdoyle" and
found 22 pictures. There is a data sheet on the right wing BUT the photo
cuts off the bottom where it says "when" the -12 might be available. Mostly
held together by clecos and no opening in the cowl but very interesting.
KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:32 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>
> Go to vansaircraft.net (Doug Reeve's Vans Air Force website) and scroll
> down
> a bit and you will see a tiny picture of the RV-12. Click on that and it
> will answer a couple of your questions.
>
> Terry
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MessageA nice picture of the 12 before the crowd arrived.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 |
MessageCROWD ? ? , what crowd ? ?...., There was a crowd ? ? Oh, yes
the overflow from the one gathered around the RV-8 with the all "new"
pre-punched holes. YAWN..........
Thank You...Very nice picture of a very nice airplane. KABONG Do Not
Archive 8*) (I just love to banter)
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Ensing
To: rvlist
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RV-List: Fw: Van's RV-12
A nice picture of the 12 before the crowd arrived.
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| Subject: | RV-10 Versus Cirrus |
Hey listers, did you catch the line after Tom Olsen's
name...............RV-10 "Flying".........? He has absolutely made the point!
The -10 is, as he
says, "a poor man's Cirrus." And it will never compete with a certified
airplane on a level pricing field. That is what we all love about EXPERIMENTAL
AIRPLANES.
Tom was criticized for mentioning some anatomical items from the lower
extremes, so I won't mention what I was "laughing off" when I read the current
issues of magazines espousing the Mooney Acclaim to be the fastest piston powered
single-engined airplane in the world. They claimed 236 knots on one trip at
flight level 250. That was at 94% power and 22 gph. And bless you Gretchen,
(Jahn) with only two people on board.
My Harmon Rocket II with 30 less horsepower will blow the doors off the
Acclaim. It will fly it at 206 knots at 75% power at 12.8 gph, but I fly it at
65%
power burning only 9.3gph and 186 knots at 10,000 feet MSL. Do you want a
piece of that? The very best part is that I only invested one fifth of the
$495,000 price of the Mooney. (Yes! It is glass cockpit, with traffic alert,
coupled autopilot, and IFR redundancy.)
Having flown both the RV-10, and an SR-20, I would love to express my opinion
of which is a much better handling airplane, but I have too many friends in
Duluth.
Want to worry about something? Advocate to your Congressman not to eliminate
Experiment Aviation from our vocabulary.
I just love it! Signed, "Cheap... Pilot"
Les Featherston Harmon Rocket II "Airgasm" has 278 hrs and is not the
fastest P-P-S in the world.
And please DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | New Target - Ham Radio WAS: Anti-Aviation bill in |
Piffle. All this high tech VOR/morse code nonsense - If we were *real*
pilots we'd go back to the A/N range.
Ed Bundy
do not archive
We all had to learn it to ID the VOR stations, right? Now they print the
dits and dahs on the sectional, allowing "no-code" technicians (airplane
drivers) to fly without having to do all that memorization. That's
someone's idea of progress, no doubt.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Gee, take the VS off and put some elephant ears on the ends of the HS
and it would look even more like an Eurcoupe.
MG
Do not archive
Dale Ensing wrote:
> A nice picture of the 12 before the crowd arrived.
>
>
>
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> No virus found in this incoming message.
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| Subject: | Lycoming pre-oiling |
For those of you who have installed a new lycoming engine, drained the
preservative oil, and filled the oil sump; how did you go about filling
the oil cooler?
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 |
Mooney made the last production versions of what started life as the
Ercoupe. The Mooney version was called the Cadet, and had both rudder
pedals and a single vertical tail.
Here's a pic:
Do not archive.
KB
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:28 PM
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> Gee, take the VS off and put some elephant ears on the ends of the HS and
> it would look even more like an Eurcoupe.
> MG
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>> A nice picture of the 12 before the crowd arrived.
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| Subject: | Anti Aviation Bill in Jacksonville |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Lots of people have asked me to put up some pictures on my web site so they
could get an idea on what my house looks like compared to the other houses
in my neighbohood. Some people are assuming that I live in a beautiful
neighborhood and I have an airplane junkyard on my front lawn. Looking at
the pictres should give everyone a sense of what the truth really is. I
have also added to the questions section. Look at www.jaxairplane.com.
I really want to thank all of the people that have sent emails of support on
this. I wish tat I could reply to each one individually, but I have
literally hundreds and hundreds of emails and I can't reply to all of them.
I also want to thank a lot of the people that have voiced their opinion and
sided against me. With few exceptions, those giving an opinion different
than mine have been courteous and not started an email flame war. It takes
courage to express your opinion even when it goes against the general flow.
In my fight against the city I am the one swimming upstream and I know how
important it is to not just sit back and listen and to express your own
opinion. We all share a love of aviation and homebuilding, but we all do
not necessarily need to agree all the time.
Brian Kraut
brian@jaxairplane.com
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I can understand Van's wanting to save the announcements for Oshkosh. I'm
not impressed by Ken Scott telling us at the Arlington Fly-in that Van would
never offer a prepunched RV-8, and that the RV-12 would not be at Oshkosh.
If he wanted to make "no comments" on the speculation of what the
announcments were going to be that's fine with me, but to lie about it was
not. I've attended my last Van's seminar.
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| Subject: | Re: Lycoming pre-oiling |
Not a big worry, because gravity and syphon action cause the oil cooler
to drain every time you shut down the engine.
If you did want to fill it (hypothetically just before first start), you
could pull the top oil cooler hose loose and fill the cooler through the
hose.
Most folks simply pull the plugs and spin the engine for a few seconds
with the starter to bring the oil pressure up.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:53 PM
Subject: RV-List: Lycoming pre-oiling
For those of you who have installed a new lycoming engine, drained the
preservative oil, and filled the oil sump; how did you go about filling
the oil cooler?
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
LOL!!! Too funny...I thought it was kind of "non-rv"
ish, myself.
Paul Besing
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--- Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> wrote:
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> Gee, take the VS off and put some elephant ears on
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> and it would look even more like an Eurcoupe.
> MG
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| Subject: | Anti Aviation Bill in Jacksonville |
Why Brian, that's atrocious! An airplane neatly parked on a trailer for
a few weeks. The neighbors must have had a hard time seeing it past all
the boats they've got parked in their yards. I'm guessing that the
complainer lady doesn't have a boat in her drive though.
When I was fitting my wings, I propped open the garage door and built a
temporary wall and tarp covered roof to make room. It stayed that way
for most of a year until the building inspector wrote it up as being an
un-permitted addition. It was gross and ugly and the neighbors never
once complained about it.
Since I took it down, we painted the house orange and nobody complained
about that either.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:54 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Lots of people have asked me to put up some pictures on my web site so
they
could get an idea on what my house looks like compared to the other
houses
in my neighbohood. Some people are assuming that I live in a beautiful
neighborhood and I have an airplane junkyard on my front lawn. Looking
at
the pictres should give everyone a sense of what the truth really is. I
have also added to the questions section. Look at www.jaxairplane.com.
I really want to thank all of the people that have sent emails of
support on
this. I wish tat I could reply to each one individually, but I have
literally hundreds and hundreds of emails and I can't reply to all of
them.
I also want to thank a lot of the people that have voiced their opinion
and
sided against me. With few exceptions, those giving an opinion
different
than mine have been courteous and not started an email flame war. It
takes
courage to express your opinion even when it goes against the general
flow.
In my fight against the city I am the one swimming upstream and I know
how
important it is to not just sit back and listen and to express your own
opinion. We all share a love of aviation and homebuilding, but we all
do
not necessarily need to agree all the time.
Brian Kraut
brian@jaxairplane.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Van's RV-12 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
BUT it would be a 138 MPH Ercoupe. (120kts LSA max = 138.2 MPH) Kinda like
the Mooney Cadet only with the VS on the right way. See photos of the data
sheet on the wing.
Guess we'll have to wait until I get mine built to compare.
KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:48 PM
> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
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> LOL!!! Too funny...I thought it was kind of "non-rv"
> ish, myself.
>> Gee, take the VS off and put some elephant ears on
>> the ends of the HS
>> and it would look even more like an Eurcoupe.
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