---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/28/06: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:51 AM - Re: off-topic lawn tractor question () 2. 05:18 AM - Re: off-topic lawn tractor question (sportav8r@aol.com) 3. 05:22 AM - Re: [Team RV] Back from Osh (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 4. 06:06 AM - Re: High speed internet (N395V) 5. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: High speed internet (sportav8r@aol.com) 6. 06:54 AM - Elevator TE Problem (Folbrecht, Paul) 7. 07:07 AM - Re: RV Builders Family Reunion BBQ at Oshkosh -- (long!) (Bob Collins) 8. 07:46 AM - Re: Elevator TE Problem (Jerry Springer) 9. 07:55 AM - Re: Elevator TE Problem (Glaeser, Dennis A) 10. 08:13 AM - Re: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount (Kevin Horton) 11. 08:23 AM - Re: Elevator TE Problem (Evan and Megan Johnson) 12. 10:21 AM - Rear Prop Gov. Questions (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 13. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: High speed internet (Chris W) 14. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: High speed internet (Chuck Jensen) 15. 12:58 PM - Re: off-topic lawn tractor question (Morocketman@aol.com) 16. 01:15 PM - Re: off-topic lawn tractor question (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 17. 04:50 PM - N710RV First Flight (Russell Daves) 18. 04:59 PM - Gary Sobek (Mark Sletten) 19. 06:03 PM - Re: Gary Sobek (Bob Collins) 20. 06:28 PM - Re: Gary Sobek (Tim Bryan) 21. 07:16 PM - Re: Gary Sobek (RV6 Flyer) 22. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: off-topic lawn tractor question (Bob J.) 23. 07:34 PM - Re: Gary Sobek (James Clark) 24. 07:40 PM - Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: [Team RV] Back from Osh (James Clark) 25. 08:00 PM - test (Hopperdhh@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:28 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: off-topic lawn tractor question Stormy, Speaking from personal experience I'd like to make a suggestion. I belong to a club that has a private 2500x150 grass runway. We first started mowing it with a John Deere mower.....I believe it may hae been a 42" cut. That lasted a number of years and then wore out. Since it was an older used tractor the club decided to purchase a new tractor and we selected a Bolans. I believe it was the same width. That mower lasted about 3 years before it started to require maintenance on a frequent basis. Maintence vaired from worn blades, worn bushings, etc... Also I don't believe that the tractor was designed to run as hard as we were running it. The feild was mowed approx 2-3 times a week depending on season and how much rain. It took aprox 2hrs or so to mow. We like to keep the feild looking good and the runway looks similar to a golf course. Oh..let me mention that I live in upstate NY. I point this out because in the winter the mowers obviously don't get used so they are not run all year. We soon came to the conclusion that we should look into other options for mowing the field. So we got to thinking...what type of mower should we look at that can mow a field of this size. We were thinking industrial mowers....noway were we going to use a brushhog...We considered a big tractor with a PTO and Deck mower also...All this seemed expensive. Finally one of te members decided to go down to the golf course 5 miles up the road and talk to the greens keeper. Surely they would know..they mow golf courses everyday so they must use decent equipment. After talking to the greens keeper he convinced us to look into a used Fairway mower. These things are designed to mow fairways all day every day, and for our use, would probably last a long time. He gave us the name of their maintence company and we gave them a call. They had a used Toro Reelmaster that came form a golf course. This thing had 5 reels and mowed 11ft wide. It was powered by a 4 cylinder engine and everything was driven by hydraulics. He gave us an option on purchase. The mower needed some repair. Needed tune-up, but did seem to run fine, reels sharpened and some of the seals in the hydraulic rams that raise and lower the reels. He would sell it to us for $5000. fixed or $2500 as is. Since there were a few in our club with an extensive mechanical background, including myself, we decided to purchase it as is. I fixed the hydraulics for around 300.00 in parts and the reels were sharpened and adjusted by the seller for around $250.00 I think and then new hydraulic oil and a tuneup. Total was around 3200.00. We even installed an old car radio that came from a flea market ($5.00 with speakers) This mower is amazing and we can now mow the feild in about 1hr. It looks great and we have had the mower for approx 10yrs. We purchased the maintence book from Toro and do most of the work ourselves with the exception of sharpening the reels. The only odd thing that went was a starter(85.00). Oh...and this thing has a hobbs meter too... :) not sure on the hours though. We joked ...hmm hobbs meter...it must be designed for mowing airfields. :) Sorry that this got long winded...but I guess my suggestion is to try and see if there are any decent used fairway mowers in your area. You may get lucky and find something that will last longer than a conventional lawn tractor. Plus mowing 11ft wide in one pass really cuts down on time and gas. Pat Lennon RV-7 empenage Time: 07:58:56 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: off-topic lawn tractor question Unrelated to RV's except that mowing the runway at Hop-Along for the last 8 years has undoubtedly played a major role in wearing out my Husqvarna ;-) Bottom line: my tired old 42"/15 hp tractor is fast becoming a basket case, with stuff falling off and no longer cuts cleanly - we've renamed it the lawn-chewer. I need a new mower and I need it soon. While I'm at it, an upgrade to 48" or 54" cut seems like an affordable luxury at my age; I've got quite a few acres to groom. What I'm asking the List for is any strong recommendations, good or bad, about the various models and brands of yard tractors out there. If you've been very happy with yours and would never give it up, or if you've made an impulse buy on a brand you swear you'll never buy again, I'd like to hear about it before I hit the big city tonight for my shopping adventure. If you know of any chain stores running great sales on a model you like, I'd appreciate knowing that, too. Thanks, guys. I hope in my own small way I've given us something to talk about besides how much we wish we were in Wisconsin this week, being rained on in our tents, and wondering how we were going to pick our way home through the occluded frontal systems, etc. -Stormy certainly do not archive --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:38 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: off-topic lawn tractor question Thanks, Pat. Your reply is not the first time that idea has crossed my mind (I've stayed in condos near golf courses and watched those machines work.) But I always wrote them off as too expensive. I love the new 48" Deere mower; even with the trail mower towed behind , it steers with authority (and not as the scribes and pharisees ;-) Goes where you point it with no detectable slip/skid while pulling that cantilevered load, and mows very cleanly. I now have that golf-course-quality finish to the runway again. That's nice. I pull a 42" Swisher trail mower behind the riding mower, for a combined cut of some 84", which gets the job done fast. I mow about as often as your airstrip group does. Funny thing: the Husqvarna riding mower still has the original drive belt, but I replace deck belts on it at least once a season; the Swisher has but one belt (not self-propelled) which has lasted about 7 years or more and never been changed once. Not sure why the difference, but maybe the floating deck on the riding mower is harder on them than having everything bolted solidly to one deck like the Swisher has. Those 88" power belts get expensive, and it's never convenient to change one ( they only break while mowing, never after ;-) At this point, I'll see how long the Deere holds up. What I really need to do is patch up the Husqvarna for down on the runway and keep the Deere up here at the house strictly for the yard. As anyone who's been here can attest, it's quite a pull up a steep hill to get from runway to house. The Husq won't do it without a long detour, but the Deere will crawl straight up the hillside through 18" pasture grass. -Stormy "Hey, don't they include a green and yellow ball cap with this thing ?!" -----Original Message----- Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 7:44 AM Stormy, Speaking from personal experience I'd like to make a suggestion. I belong to a club that has a private 2500x150 grass runway. We first started mowing it with a John Deere mower.....I believe it may hae been a 42" cut. That lasted a number of years and then wore out. Since it was an older used tractor the club decided to purchase a new tractor and we selected a Bolans. I believe it was the same width. That mower lasted about 3 years before it started to require maintenance on a frequent basis. Maintence vaired from worn blades, worn bushings, etc... Also I don't believe that the tractor was designed to run as hard as we were running it. The feild was mowed approx 2-3 times a week depending on season and how much rain. It took aprox 2hrs or so to mow. We like to keep the feild looking good and the runway looks similar to a golf course. Oh..let me mention that I live in upstate NY. I point this out because in the winter the mowers obviously don't get used so they are not run al l year. We soon came to the conclusion that we should look into other options for mowing the field. So we got to thinking...what type of mower should we look at that can mow a field of this size. We were thinking industrial mowers....noway were we going to use a brushhog...We considered a big tractor with a PTO and Deck mower also...All this seemed expensive. Finally one of te members decided to go down to the golf course 5 miles up the road and talk to the greens keeper. Surely they would know..they mow golf courses everyday so they must use decent equipment. After talking to the greens keeper he convinced us to look into a used Fairway mower. These things are designed to mow fairways all day every day, and for our use, would probably last a long time. He gave us the name of their maintence company and we gave them a call. They had a used Toro Reelmaster that came form a golf course. This thing had 5 reels and mowed 11ft wide. It was powered by a 4 cylinder engine and everything was driven by hydraulics. He gave us an option on purchase. The mower needed some repair. Needed tune-up, but did seem to run fine, reels sharpened and some of the seals in the hydraulic rams that raise and lower the reels. He would sell it to us for $5000. fixed or $2500 as is. Since there were a few in our club with an extensive mechanical background, including myself, we decided to purchase it as is. I fixed the hydraulics for around 300.00 in parts and the reels were sharpened and adjusted by the seller for around $250.00 I think and then new hydraulic oil and a tuneup. Total was around 3200.00. We even installed an old car radio that came from a flea market ($5.00 with speakers) This mower is amazing and we can now mow the feild in about 1hr. It looks great and we have had the mower for approx 10yrs. We purchased the maintence book from Toro and do most of the work ourselves with the exception of sharpening the reels. The only odd thing that went was a starter(85.00). Oh...and this thing has a hobbs meter too... :) not sure on the hours though. We joked ...hmm hobbs meter...it must be designed for mowing airfields. :) Sorry that this got long winded...but I guess my suggestion is to try and see if there are any decent used fairway mowers in your area. You may get lucky and find something that will last longer than a conventional lawn tractor. Plus mowing 11ft wide in one pass really cuts down on time and gas. Pat Lennon RV-7 empenage Time: 07:58:56 AM PST US Unrelated to RV's except that mowing the runway at Hop-Along for the last 8 years has undoubtedly played a major role in wearing out my Husqvarna ;-) Bottom line: my tired old 42"/15 hp tractor is fast becoming a basket case, with stuff falling off and no longer cuts cleanly - we've renamed it the lawn-chewer. I need a new mower and I need it soon. While I'm at it, an upgrade to 48" or 54" cut seems like an affordable luxury at my age; I've got quite a few acres to groom. What I'm asking the List for is any strong recommendations, good or bad, about the various models and brands of yard tractors out there. If you've been very happy with yours and would never give it up, or if you've made an impulse buy on a brand you swear you'll never buy again, I'd like to hear about it before I hit the big city tonight for my shopping adventure. If you know of any chain stores running great sales on a model you like, I'd appreciate knowing that, too. Thanks, guys. I hope in my own small way I've given us something to talk about besides how much we wish we were in Wisconsin this week, being rained on in our tents, and wondering how we were going to pick our way home through the occluded frontal systems, etc. -Stormy certainly do not archive See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:18 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: [Team RV] Back from Osh Quick note to congratulate Falcon Flight/Team RV/Palmetto/SoCal and all else participating for the excellent formations Tuesday- you guys really raised the bar and stood out from the rest of the formations as an example of "how it's done"! If evidence is needed, I did get some fair fotos from show center and can fwd to Kahuna as testimony for a job well done! Sure looks like I need to practice, practice, practice... Mark Phillips do not archive for Matronics ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:25 AM PST US From: "N395V" Subject: RV-List: Re: High speed internet --> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" The term High speed relative to Sattelite is a partial misnomer. I live on the wrong side of the interstate and cannot get cable. Dial up is unnacceptably slow and my only real option is sattelite. I have hughes.net (formerly direcway) and while it is significantly faster in the download(most of the time) it is no faster in the upload (no matter what the redhead on TV says) it ain't lightning fast. After 5 years I still am not used to the lag after clicking the mouse. During busy periods it slows to the speed of dialup and if there is rain to the South go take a coffee break cause you ain't gonna surf. On balance it is far better than dialup but when you converse with others it isn't in what I would call the high speed category. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50280#50280 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:41 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: High speed internet As a fellow Hughes customer out in the boonies, I can say "amen" to all your observations and laments. After growing accustomed to the slow speed of DirecWay at home, the office DSL connection seems really nice, and my daughter's college library connection is almost mystical, as in "I haven't even hit "enter" yet and the page is already loaded!" Well, not really, but it's blink-of-an-eye fast. -Stormy -----Original Message----- Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 9:03 AM --> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" The term High speed relative to Sattelite is a partial misnomer. I live on the wrong side of the interstate and cannot get cable. Dial up is unnacceptably slow and my only real option is sattelite. I have hughes.net (formerly direcway) and while it is significantly faster in the download(most of the time) it is no faster in the upload (no matter what the redhead on TV says) it ain't lightning fast. After 5 years I still am not used to the lag after clicking the mouse. During busy periods it slows to the speed of dialup and if there is rain to the South go take a coffee break cause you ain't gonna surf. On balance it is far better than dialup but when you converse with others it isn't in what I would call the high speed category. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50280#50280 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:24 AM PST US From: "Folbrecht, Paul" Subject: RV-List: Elevator TE Problem I sent this to Van's yesterday and then realized that they, along with everyone else in the world and everyone else's brother, is up at OSH this week. Hello, 9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners prevent the TE from going in all the way - it sticks out about 1/16" past the skins. Options: 1) Trim the stiffeners. Since they're (obviously) installed, I can't see how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin. 2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16" and leave it like that. There would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for structural soundness. 3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/trim it afterwards. None of these options is terribly inviting. Which is the best? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:21 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV Builders Family Reunion BBQ at Oshkosh -- (long!) --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" One important notation, I identified the wrong Bill -- or at least left out a very important Bill. Bill Swaim was a key component of this smooth-as-silk (g) operation. No slight was intended and I've got a bucketload of appreciation for Bill's help. Bob Do Not ARchive -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:38 PM --> RV-List message posted by: "John Jessen" What an incredible write-up of an incredible get together. I'm planning to be there next year! Hope someone took pictures. John Jessen RV-10 Tailcone ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:31 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator TE Problem --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Folbrecht, Paul wrote: > I sent this to Vans yesterday and then realized that they, along with > everyone else in the world and everyone elses brother, is up at OSH > this week. > > Hello, > > 9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners > prevent the TE from going in all the way it sticks out about 1/16 > past the skins. Options: > > 1) Trim the stiffeners. Since theyre (obviously) installed, I cant > see how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin. > > 2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16 and leave it like that. > There would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for > structural soundness. > > 3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/trim it afterwards. > > None of these options is terribly inviting. Which is the best? > I don't know how close to the end of the stiffeners the rivets are, but in some cases you can slip a thin strip of alum. between the stiffener and the skin to protect the skin and use a die grinder or dremel tool to cut the ends of the stiffeners off. Jerry do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:22 AM PST US From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" Subject: RV-List: Re: Elevator TE Problem --> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" I had a similar problem on my 7A rudder, only at the other end (stiffeners interfered with the spar). I slipped a thin piece of aluminum between the skin and the stiffener and used my dremel tool with a cutoff wheel - very carefully!! A fourth option is to trim the TE wedge locally to clear the stiffeners - mark the locations and 'deburr' away the TE wedge with your scotchbright wheel to clear the stiffeners. Dennis Glaeser 7A - Finishing Kit ------------------------------------------------------------------- 9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners prevent the TE from going in all the way - it sticks out about 1/16" past the skins. Options: 1) Trim the stiffeners. Since they're (obviously) installed, I can't see how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin. 2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16" and leave it like that. There would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for structural soundness. 3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/trim it afterwards. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:50 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton A local RV-6, operated from a mix of hard surface and grass strips, has had cracks around the gear sockets. The mount has been welded twice, and now it looks like it is cracking again. Kevin Horton Ottawa, Canada On 26 Jul 2006, at 14:13, Wentz, Don wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" > > The ONE that I know about, seemed isolated to a taildragger that > spent a > lot of time on bumpy unpaved runways. > RVs that don't fly as much and don't get hard landings and stay on > pavement aren't likely to experience it. > My RV-6 hasn't, with an engine mount from 1993 and 1000 hrs. > Dw > > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Gray > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:15 AM > > --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray > >> Doug: >> >> Like any one else, I am puzzled by you comments. I have an rv6a, of > yr. >> 99 or so... of course, I bought the Engine mount from Vans, with >> everything else...If you are talking about, that you built, or are >> building your own Engine mount, that is a different thing... >> >> The engine mount, that comes with the kit from Vans, is ready to > install. >> >> Nothing else has to be added, welded, it comes painted,,,rust > proofed... >> >> Would like to know what are you talking about...OH my Engine es a >> Lycoming 0320ed in case... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bert >> do not archive >>>>>> > > Problem relates only to the RV-6. Cracking has been discovered by > various owners in Aust. and NZ at the lower end of the the gear > sockets > in earlier mounts (standard) supplied by Vans. Later supplied mounts > have an additional gusset welded around the gear socket. This > gusset is > present on RV-7 mounts. > > I had wrongly assumed the problem was seen in the US as well. > > Doug > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:29 AM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator TE Problem its been a while since I did mine but I am pretty sure they all stick out a bit.... Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Folbrecht, Paul To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:51 AM Subject: RV-List: Elevator TE Problem I sent this to Van's yesterday and then realized that they, along with everyone else in the world and everyone else's brother, is up at OSH this week. Hello, 9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners prevent the TE from going in all the way - it sticks out about 1/16" past the skins. Options: 1) Trim the stiffeners. Since they're (obviously) installed, I can't see how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin. 2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16" and leave it like that. There would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for structural soundness. 3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/trim it afterwards. None of these options is terribly inviting. Which is the best? ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:21 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Rear Prop Gov. Questions I searched the archives, but couldn't find answers to these questions. I am thinking of putting an IO-360-A1A engine in my RV-7A. It has been flying with an IO-360-A1D6 which has a front mounted governor. Could someone on the list please tell me approximately what the thickness of the rear mounted prop governor adapter pad is on an IO-360-A1A? I have an old one that measures about 2 1/16 inches. Is there a thinner one available? The dimension I need is from the accessory case to the prop governor itself. Also, will the McCauley governor off the left front of my IO-360-A1D6 work on the rear of the -A1A? As far as I can tell there is about 3 percent difference in the drive ratio -- 0.866 vs 0.895. I would assume that the governor could be adjusted for this difference. Is there some other reason why it won't work? Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:27:45 PM PST US From: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: High speed internet --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> N395V wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" > >The term High speed relative to Sattelite is a partial misnomer. > >I live on the wrong side of the interstate and cannot get cable. > > If you are that close to where you can get cable or DSL, see if you can find a near by friend in the Cable/DSL area that is willing to put a small antenna on their roof with a wireless access point tied into their cable line. A good antenna at both locations can easily get you 10 to 20 miles or maybe even more. Just be sure there is nothing in the line of site between the 2 antennas. The 2.4Ghz of most wireless networks is blocked even by a tree. If the distance is only a mile or 2 you might get away with a tree between the 2 antennas but don't count on it. As for the antenna, a parabolic grid antenna is probably the best way to go. They are only about $50 these days. Just be sure to keep the wireless access point very close to the antenna, and use very high quality antenna feed line (LMR 400 or bigger). In some places there are ISPs that provide a wireless service. While it generally isn't as fast as cable, it is probably tons better than satellite. do not archive. -- Chris W KE5GIX ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:39 PM PST US From: "Chuck Jensen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: High speed internet --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" Not a bad idea to turn on encryption also, unless your want to share your world with the world. Chuck Do Not Archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris W > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 3:24 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: High speed internet > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6@cox.net> > > N395V wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "N395V" > > > >The term High speed relative to Sattelite is a partial misnomer. > > > >I live on the wrong side of the interstate and cannot get cable. > > > > > > If you are that close to where you can get cable or DSL, see > if you can > find a near by friend in the Cable/DSL area that is willing to put a > small antenna on their roof with a wireless access point tied > into their > cable line. A good antenna at both locations can easily get > you 10 to > 20 miles or maybe even more. Just be sure there is nothing > in the line > of site between the 2 antennas. The 2.4Ghz of most wireless > networks is > blocked even by a tree. If the distance is only a mile or 2 > you might > get away with a tree between the 2 antennas but don't count > on it. As > for the antenna, a parabolic grid antenna is probably the best way to > go. They are only about $50 these days. Just be sure to keep the > wireless access point very close to the antenna, and use very high > quality antenna feed line (LMR 400 or bigger). In some > places there are > ISPs that provide a wireless service. While it generally > isn't as fast > as cable, it is probably tons better than satellite. > > do not archive. > > -- > Chris W > KE5GIX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:59 PM PST US From: Morocketman@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: off-topic lawn tractor question I didn't think this would get so much attention. Especially with everyone off at OSH. Rebel's Bluff Airstrip is 90' wide and 2,200' long, and another two acres or so around the hangar, and picnic area. Here is Southwest Missouri I "have to" mow twice a week from April till about now in July. Then once a week except for Jan/Feb. A 10 year old 72" Kabota riding mower came with the house, and I pretty much used it up in about 5 years, and 3 hours per mow. The local implement dealer had a very slightly used Woods 9144 Bat-wing (three deck) mower for sale for about 60% of new. It cuts a 12' swath, and knock on wood, it appears as though it will live a lot longer than I will. Now takes 1:45. In mowing your airstrip, "size does matter," and you'll never regret getting a wider cut mower. I pull the Bat-wing with a 36 hp Kabota L3600. I cannot tell you how much enjoyment I get riding back and forth on the runway. Good luck on your choice, Les Featherston Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:15:09 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: off-topic lawn tractor question I want to build a laser guided lawn mower to do my runway with. I got all excited about it and was telling my wife. She said that mowing was about the only pleasure she got out of living out here in the sticks! By the way did you see the article about 8 or 10 years ago about the 90-some year old pilot that rigged up his mower to make circular paths automatically down the runway? The diameter of the circle was the width of the runway, and it went down the runway one mower width with each circle. The mower followed a wire, I think, and reeled itself down his runway. If you are on the list give us some more details. do not archive Dan ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:15 PM PST US From: "Russell Daves" Subject: RV-List: N710RV First Flight First flight went off without a hitch today. Felt great. Plans are to fly every day for the next two weeks, either before or after work on the real job. Russ Daves ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:09 PM PST US From: "Mark Sletten" Subject: RV-List: Gary Sobek Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Sobek (other than email)? I'm the guy who attended the BBQ at OSH for ANN and I've got pictures from Gary's wife of the 15-ship formation that I can't use unless I get permission. If anyone has a phone number that would be great. If you know how to contact him or his wife and would rather not give me a number, please give him mine 618 791-3939, or just tell him to check his email! Mark Sletten www.aero-news.net DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:05 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gary Sobek Mark: I'll post this on the SoCal RV group. Someone there will know. Do not archive Bob _____ [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sletten Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:58 PM Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Sobek (other than email)? I'm the guy who attended the BBQ at OSH for ANN and I've got pictures from Gary's wife of the 15-ship formation that I can't use unless I get permission. If anyone has a phone number that would be great. If you know how to contact him or his wife and would rather not give me a number, please give him mine 618 791-3939, or just tell him to check his email! Mark Sletten www.aero-news.net DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:31 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gary Sobek Hi Mark, Gary monitors this list reguraly. I know he was gone and don't know how big a hurry you were in. Tim do not archive -------Original Message------- Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Sobek (other than email)? I=92m th e guy who attended the BBQ at OSH for ANN and I=92ve got pictures from Gary=92s wife of the 15-ship formation that I can=92t use unless I get permission. If a nyone has a phone number that would be great. If you know how to contact him or his wife and would rather not give me a number, please give him mine 618 791-3939, or just tell him to check his email! Mark Sletten www.aero-news.net DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:11 PM PST US From: "RV6 Flyer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gary Sobek --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" Mark: Spoke with you on the phone already. Robin sent you an email saying you have her permission from her email account. She also sent you her cell phone number and my cell phone: 310-403-6197 Am using a prepaid 800 dial up access on the road. Only checking in about once a day. DO NOT ARCHIVE Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,914 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://www.rvdar.com ----Original Message Follows---- Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Sobek (other than email)? I'm the guy who attended the BBQ at OSH for ANN and I've got pictures from Gary's wife of the 15-ship formation that I can't use unless I get permission. If anyone has a phone number that would be great. If you know how to contact him or his wife and would rather not give me a number, please give him mine 618 791-3939, or just tell him to check his email! Mark Sletten www.aero-news.net DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:06 PM PST US From: "Bob J." Subject: Re: RV-List: re: off-topic lawn tractor question Art Evans (owner of Dixie Chopper) is a bona-fide airplane nut and mad scientist. He has powered parachutes, ultralights, a RV-6A, a Citation, a Diamond aircraft dealership, hotel on the airport, FBO, on and on... At one point a few years ago he was developing an aircraft engine. He's a very unique individual, and is a down-to-earth good guy. Its rare to fly in to Putnam Co. airport and not find him there hanging out on the evenings and weekends. The restaurant has the best breakfast buffet around. In the non-summer months its not uncommon to find 15+ RV's there for breakfast on a Saturday morning. If I didn't already have a Woods zero-turn mower that doesn't seem to want to wear out I'd definitely go for a Dixie Chopper. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. > Funny you should ask! On the way to Oshkosh we stopped at a nice little > airport near Indianappolis. The "Dixie Chopper" lawn mowers are made there > and they were all over the place. One chasis was serving as the FBO's start > cart! They claim is is the fastest mower in the world and they look > positively tank-like. One has a 72-inch cut and twin engines with 54 > horsepower! That would probably mow the hump clean out of Hop-Along > airport! I didn't even ask how much, but I'm not in the market. Check out > the web site: http://www.dixiechopper.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:18 PM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gary Sobek Gary I just tried to call you. Ignore that. As I saw your message. James On 7/28/06, RV6 Flyer wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" > > Mark: > > Spoke with you on the phone already. Robin sent you an email saying you > have > her permission from her email account. She also sent you her cell phone > number and my cell phone: 310-403-6197 > > Am using a prepaid 800 dial up access on the road. Only checking in about > once a day. > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > Gary A. Sobek > "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, > 1,914 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA > http://www.rvdar.com > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > Does anyone have a way to contact Gary Sobek (other than email)? I'm the > guy > who attended the BBQ at OSH for ANN and I've got pictures from Gary's wife > of the 15-ship formation that I can't use unless I get permission. If > anyone > has a phone number that would be great. If you know how to contact him or > his wife and would rather not give me a number, please give him mine 618 > 791-3939, or just tell him to check his email! > > > Mark Sletten > > www.aero-news.net > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:47 PM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: RV-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: [Team RV] Back from Osh Thanks Mark. It was nice to look over and see you waving as we sat waiting to take to the runway. Also nice to see you "fly by" at SQI in the race! James On 7/28/06, Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: > > Quick note to congratulate Falcon Flight/Team RV/Palmetto/SoCal and all > else participating for the excellent formations Tuesday- you guys really > raised the bar and stood out from the rest of the formations as an example > of "how it's done"! If evidence is needed, I did get some fair fotos from > show center and can fwd to Kahuna as testimony for a job well done! > > Sure looks like I need to practice, practice, practice... > > Mark Phillips > do not archive for Matronics > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:41 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: RV-List: test do not archive