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1. 12:37 AM - Lightspeed Ignition (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
2. 05:39 AM - Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Dean Pichon)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (linn Walters)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Doug Weiler)
5. 07:18 AM - Re: PPG Paint Code (Tom Gesele)
6. 07:21 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Dan Checkoway)
7. 08:45 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Mickey Coggins)
8. 09:24 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Vanremog@aol.com)
9. 09:24 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Vanremog@aol.com)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: exhaust bolt torque (James H Nelson)
11. 09:50 AM - Re: exhaust bolt torque (az_gila)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (az_gila)
13. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: exhaust bolt torque (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
14. 10:13 AM - Air Oil Separators (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
15. 10:19 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Paul Besing)
16. 10:25 AM - Re: Air Oil Separators (linn Walters)
17. 10:45 AM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Dan Checkoway)
18. 11:02 AM - Re: Air Oil Separators (JOHN STARN)
19. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: exhaust bolt torque (Ed Holyoke)
20. 11:58 AM - Re: Cooling Blast tubes - Lycoming (do it right) ()
21. 12:44 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Paul Besing)
22. 01:17 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (az_gila)
23. 02:52 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Doug Weiler)
24. 02:52 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Dan Checkoway)
25. 03:27 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (az_gila)
26. 04:01 PM - Re: PPG Paint Code (Charlie Kuss)
27. 04:01 PM - Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) (Michael D. Cencula)
28. 04:29 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Vanremog@aol.com)
29. 04:31 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (Vanremog@aol.com)
30. 04:45 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
31. 05:11 PM - Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) (Frank Stringham)
32. 05:11 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (Vanremog@aol.com)
33. 05:17 PM - Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) (Vanremog@aol.com)
34. 05:32 PM - Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) (Bob J.)
35. 07:17 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
36. 07:28 PM - Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
37. 08:38 PM - AirVenture 2006 Award Winning RVs (Kenyon Brooks)
38. 08:58 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (Paul Besing)
39. 09:39 PM - Re: AirVenture 2006 Award Winning RVs (Bob Collins)
40. 11:05 PM - TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH (Mark E Navratil)
41. 11:19 PM - Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH (Cory Emberson)
42. 11:39 PM - Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH (Jerry Springer)
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| Subject: | Lightspeed Ignition |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Quick question on LSE:
I've got the version with the sensor board that mounts behind the flywheel.
Bad part of this setup is routing the sensor cable back to the controller
box. I've tentatively routed this wire under the crankcase with and an adel
clamp under one of the baffle bracket screws secures the wire up front. The
wire runs under the engine at the base of the cylinders to the firewall.
Problem is I don't really have any way to secure it down there. Those who
have this setup, could you email me with some description or better yet,
photos of what you did here? I need to resolve this somehow. Thanks.
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Wiring, wiring and....wiring!
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| Subject: | Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less suseptable
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new set Champions,
or perhaps Iridiium plugs or another type. Any recommendation from Listers
would be most appreciated. I'm flying a -4 with an IO-360 with Lasar
ingnition.
Thanks,
Dean
Bolton, MA
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
This is sure to start another mogas war, but here goes anyway. I use
mogas in my Pitts (O-360-A4-A) so don't have the fouling problem. The
cure on lesser engines is the REM 37BY, but I don't know if they'll fit
in the O-360. They were designed specifically to target the lead
fouling problem in the O-235s. I'm assuming that your fouling problem
is lead, and not oil! :-)
The other cure is to lean the crap out of the engine at all times .....
from startup to shutdown. At any altitude. I know, that's not what
Lycoming recommends, so don't waste the bandwidth busting my chops.
Leaning agressively, like mogas, has worked for me and has for years.
Linn
do not archive
Dean Pichon wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
>
> I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less
> suseptable to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a
> new set Champions, or perhaps Iridiium plugs or another type. Any
> recommendation from Listers would be most appreciated. I'm flying a
> -4 with an IO-360 with Lasar ingnition.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean
> Bolton, MA
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
Dean,
I have lots of detailed photos of my LSE installation. I have to run at the
moment but I'll get you some photos later today.
Doug Weiler
N722DW, RV-4
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:33 AM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
> Quick question on LSE:
>
> I've got the version with the sensor board that mounts behind the
> flywheel.
> Bad part of this setup is routing the sensor cable back to the controller
> box. I've tentatively routed this wire under the crankcase with and an
> adel
> clamp under one of the baffle bracket screws secures the wire up front.
> The
> wire runs under the engine at the base of the cylinders to the firewall.
> Problem is I don't really have any way to secure it down there. Those who
> have this setup, could you email me with some description or better yet,
> photos of what you did here? I need to resolve this somehow. Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Wiring, wiring and....wiring!
>
>
>
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Randy,
I had the powder coat color matched - number is DCC92783RQ for the PPG
Concept paint according to my receipt. The color was an exact match for
Van's parts..
Hope this helps.
Tom Gesele RV-10 #40473
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy Hooper
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:49 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: PPG Paint Code
Hi List, I am trying to match colors in cockpit. Does anyone have the
PPG Paint Code to match the powder coat finished steel parts? Thanks in
advance.
Randy Hooper
RV-8
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I did just like you, with an adel clamp on the baffle screw. I also put
another adel clamp on the case/sump bolts in one or two spots as the wire
runs aft.
Presumably you have a fat starter wire running in that vicinity as well.
You could also run the LSE wire along that wire.
Whatever works!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1021 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:33 AM
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
> Quick question on LSE:
>
> I've got the version with the sensor board that mounts behind the
> flywheel.
> Bad part of this setup is routing the sensor cable back to the controller
> box. I've tentatively routed this wire under the crankcase with and an
> adel
> clamp under one of the baffle bracket screws secures the wire up front.
> The
> wire runs under the engine at the base of the cylinders to the firewall.
> Problem is I don't really have any way to secure it down there. Those who
> have this setup, could you email me with some description or better yet,
> photos of what you did here? I need to resolve this somehow. Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Wiring, wiring and....wiring!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> The other cure is to lean the crap out of the engine at all times .....
> from startup to shutdown. At any altitude. I know, that's not what
> Lycoming recommends, so don't waste the bandwidth busting my chops.
> Leaning agressively, like mogas, has worked for me and has for years.
Excellent suggestions assuming the cause is lead fouling. Another
one that has worked for a lot of people is to use a lead scavenger
like Decalin TCP Plus.
http://www.decalinchemicals.com/
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:41:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deanpichon@msn.com writes:
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less
susceptible
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new set Champions,
or perhaps Iridium plugs or another type.
Just switch to the REM37BY.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:58:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes:
The
cure on lesser engines is the REM 37BY, but I don't know if they'll fit
in the O-360.
================================
I can tell you they work fine in my O-360.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust bolt torque |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Gil,
I don't have the overhaul manual but I need the size of the bolts
that go into the machined boss that was origionally used for the
generator on the lycoming o-360. This is an area that has three tapped
holes just on the generator side of the case. It is bigger than a 1/4"
but not 5/16". I want to support the starter cable as it leaves the
starter and heads back to the start solenoid. With an adel clamp in that
position, it will releive strain where the start cable attaches to the
starter.
Jim Nelson
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust bolt torque |
--> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Jim... I don't have my parts manual here - a different book from the overhaul manual
- but Lycoming only uses US coarse thread screws.
If it's not 1/4, then I bet it's a 5/16-18
Buy a cheap 5/16 bolt from the hw store and see if it threads in. It should not
be an odd size.
gil in Tucson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50740#50740
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
The REM37BY are approved.
If you want more plug details, Lycoming has their approved spark plug list on the
web at
http://www.lycoming.textron.com/support/publications/maintenancePublications/serviceInstructions/SI1042X.pdf
gil in Tucson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50741#50741
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust bolt torque |
I'm pretty sure its a 1/4-20. It is on my IO-360.
do not archive
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/30/2006 12:52:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Jim... I don't have my parts manual here - a different book from the
overhaul manual - but Lycoming only uses US coarse thread screws.
If it's not 1/4, then I bet it's a 5/16-18
Buy a cheap 5/16 bolt from the hw store and see if it threads in. It
should not be an odd size.
gil in Tucson
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| Subject: | Air Oil Separators |
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such a wide
range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who is actally using
one so this one goes out to the list.
Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay for airplanes.
I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.
For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you modifying the
dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
thx,
lucky
do not archive
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<DIV>Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such
a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who
is actally using one so this one goes out to the list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay
for airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you modifying
the dip stick housing to accept a return hose?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>thx,</DIV>
<DIV>lucky</DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
Gary, any idea how these would work with a magneto ignition? My IO-360 on my -4
fouls the bottom plugs really easily, and have to be cleaned every oil change
in order keep them running well.
Paul Besing
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:41:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, deanpichon@msn.com
writes:
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less susceptible
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new set Champions,
or perhaps Iridium plugs or another type.
Just switch to the REM37BY.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
lucky wrote:
> Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see
> such a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know
> anyone who is actally using one so this one goes out to the list.
>
> Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay
> for airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.
>
> For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you
> modifying the dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
>
> thx,
> lucky
> do not archive
Lucky, IMHO the oil separators cover up a more pressing problem .....
blowby. From what I've heard, almost all separators work ..... kinda.
They'll keep the belly cleaner if that's your goal. However, instead
of returning the crud back to your engine, you can drain it into some
kind of removeable cup ...... or even a long loop of clear hose that you
can see and drain at your convenience. One look at the stuff that's
been siphoned off will make you glad you didn't route it back to the engine.
The problem is that the acid that is produced naturally by combustion
doesn't get vented overboard as well as it should.
Linn
Check the archives.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
They ought to work just fine with mags. I run UREM37BY plugs with my
Slick mag on my IO-360-A1B6. Bottom plugs. I have yet to experience a
fouled plug in more than 1000 hours.
Granted, I have a Lightspeed Plasma II firing the top plugs, which must
help...but at least the UREM37BY plugs on the bottom haven't had any
issues.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1021 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Recommendations for Iridium plugs?
Gary, any idea how these would work with a magneto ignition? My
IO-360 on my -4 fouls the bottom plugs really easily, and have to be
cleaned every oil change in order keep them running well.
Paul Besing
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:41:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deanpichon@msn.com writes:
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less
susceptible
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new set
Champions,
or perhaps Iridium plugs or another type.
Just switch to the REM37BY.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
I'll keep this short. There are lots of suggestions in the Archives. We
tried four different type/styles/sizes, bottom line: DONT.
IF you collect ANYTHING,` IF you install one, the very last thing
you want is to dump the "goop" back into the engine.
ANYTHING that restricts the vents air flow causes "backpressure" inside
the case & that causes leaks at covers, cylinders, case joints etc etc.
Run the line FULL size to an area where anything that MIGHT drip hits
the exhaust pipe. IO-540 J4A5 HRII almost 300 hrs
KABONG Do Not Archive (its in there)
----- Original Message -----
From: lucky
To: RV-List ; lycoming
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: RV-List: Air Oil Separators
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see
such a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone
who is actally using one so this one goes out to the list.
Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay
for airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.
For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you
modifying the dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
thx,
lucky
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust bolt torque |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Watch out for those crush type exhaust gaskets. I had one of those burn
through allowing the nuts to loosen and fall off. The pipe was found
hanging (barely) on the end of the stud. I replaced it with a solid
"blow proof" gasket. I checked the other 3 gaskets when we got home and
they all showed signs of damage and some leakage. Replaced all. 700
hours on engine at the time.
Ed Holyoke
>Lycoming also has another set of instructions for crush type
copper/asbestos gaskets - which I believe the exhaust gaskets would fall
under.
>In this case, for a 18 threads to the inch bolt/stud, tighten until
surfaces are in contact and then tighten another 135 degrees.
>This is only if the exhaust gaskets fall under the description of a
"crush type" gasket
Perhaps a A&P can help out here... I'm only an airframe mechanic...
[Wink] ... but I got the Lycoming book...
>gil in Tucson
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling Blast tubes - Lycoming (do it right) |
Suggest you get a REAL fuel pump cooling shroud. select products
and sroll down to bottom.
http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm
here is a picture.
http://showplanes.com/images/prod_thumbnail(shroud).jpg
You want to shield from radiant heat as well as shroud in cool air.
Cheers George
>posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve & Denise" <sjhdcl@kingston.net>
>
> RV7A - IO360
> I'm planning to install 5/8" blast tubes from baffling to fuel pump,
1
> mag,
> and alternator.
>
> Routing and securing to baffling is easy but any tricks on securing
the
> end
> where the component is so the cooling
> blast actually hits the fuel pump? Adel clamps stategically placed?
> Pics?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> RV7A flying soon!
>
((((((((()))))))))
I found a good bit of use for safety wire when securing the blast tubes
to
keep them aimed where wanted. Simple to use.
Indiana Larry with one trip to OSH completed.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
Best place to get them? Anything special that needs to be done for the gap?
Paul Besing
Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com> wrote:
They ought to work just fine with mags. I run UREM37BY plugs with my
Slick mag on my IO-360-A1B6. Bottom plugs. I have yet to experience a fouled
plug in more than 1000 hours.
Granted, I have a Lightspeed Plasma II firing the top plugs, which must help...but
at least the UREM37BY plugs on the bottom haven't had any issues.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1021 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Recommendations for Iridium plugs?
Gary, any idea how these would work with a magneto ignition? My IO-360 on my
-4 fouls the bottom plugs really easily, and have to be cleaned every oil change
in order keep them running well.
Paul Besing
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:41:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, deanpichon@msn.com
writes:
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is less susceptible
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new set Champions,
or perhaps Iridium plugs or another type.
Just switch to the REM37BY.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
[quote="pbesing(at)yahoo.com"]Best place to get them?? Anything special that needs
to be done for the gap?
?
Paul Besing
Vans sells them.... keep him in business.... :D
His prices are good too..
gil in Tucson
PS the Unison ones are shorter than the Champions, and allow a shorter socket...
making easier removal on #3 and #4 were the side baffles are close.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50786#50786
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
I added some more photos to my Flickr page showing my LSE installation.
Take a look:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/n722dw/sets/72157594147109903/
Doug
N722DW, 200 hours
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:08 AM
> Dean,
>
> I have lots of detailed photos of my LSE installation. I have to run at
> the moment but I'll get you some photos later today.
>
> Doug Weiler
> N722DW, RV-4
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:33 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Lightspeed Ignition
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
>> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>>
>> Quick question on LSE:
>>
>> I've got the version with the sensor board that mounts behind the
>> flywheel.
>> Bad part of this setup is routing the sensor cable back to the controller
>> box. I've tentatively routed this wire under the crankcase with and an
>> adel
>> clamp under one of the baffle bracket screws secures the wire up front.
>> The
>> wire runs under the engine at the base of the cylinders to the firewall.
>> Problem is I don't really have any way to secure it down there. Those
>> who
>> have this setup, could you email me with some description or better yet,
>> photos of what you did here? I need to resolve this somehow. Thanks.
>>
>> Dean Psiropoulos
>> RV-6A N197DM
>> Wiring, wiring and....wiring!
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
Sky Geek was cheapest last I checked.
http://www.rvproject.com/pricewatch.html
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Recommendations for Iridium plugs?
Best place to get them? Anything special that needs to be done for
the gap?
Paul Besing
Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com> wrote:
They ought to work just fine with mags. I run UREM37BY plugs with
my Slick mag on my IO-360-A1B6. Bottom plugs. I have yet to experience
a fouled plug in more than 1000 hours.
Granted, I have a Lightspeed Plasma II firing the top plugs, which
must help...but at least the UREM37BY plugs on the bottom haven't had
any issues.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1021 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Recommendations for Iridium plugs?
Gary, any idea how these would work with a magneto ignition? My
IO-360 on my -4 fouls the bottom plugs really easily, and have to be
cleaned every oil change in order keep them running well.
Paul Besing
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:41:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
deanpichon@msn.com writes:
I'd like to replace my Champion plugs with something that is
less susceptible
to fouling. I don't know whether I should go with just a new
set Champions,
or perhaps Iridium plugs or another type.
Just switch to the REM37BY.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley,
CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "az_gila" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Yeah... Dan... but.....
Sky Geek is only 5 cents less than Vans....
I'd rather keep Vans in long term business than Sky Geek.... :D
gil in Tucson ... trying to keep my $$$ where they do good....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50820#50820
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| Subject: | Re: PPG Paint Code |
Randy,
The gray that Vans uses is a standard PPG color. It's called Pearl
Gray. Paint code is 92783. This color code can be used for any PPG
product. Most folks use their Concept or Delta products. I'm using
the Delta (next step up from Concept) and I love it. The stuff is
easy to spray, has great coverage and is tough as nails.
Charlie Kuss
> Hi List, I am trying to match colors in cockpit. Does anyone have
> the PPG Paint Code to match the powder coat finished steel parts?
> Thanks in advance.
>
>Randy Hooper
>RV-8
>
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| Subject: | Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com>
Greetings,
I'm building the jig to bend the trailing edges of the elevators on my RV-7A.
Does anyone know the correct bend radius for these trailing edges?
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 10:20:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pbesing@yahoo.com writes:
Gary, any idea how these would work with a magneto ignition? My IO-360 on
my -4 fouls the bottom plugs really easily, and have to be cleaned every oil
change in order keep them running well.
========================================
Paul-
I am running the REM37BY plugs with standard Slick Mags. Just gap them for
.019" and they still won't foul like the old REM38E or REM40E massives.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 10:14:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
luckymacy@comcast.net writes:
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such a
wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who is
actually using one so this one goes out to the list.
===========================
Get the 3/4" dia port one from Wicks (P/N OIL-BS3/4) for around $50 and do
the pot scrubber mod defined in the archives. It's a no brainer.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
Thanks, it's more like $87.50 now and looks suspiciously like the $50 one in ACS!
lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
In a message dated 7/30/2006 10:14:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, luckymacy@comcast.net
writes:
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such a wide
range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who is actually using
one so this one goes out to the list.
===========================
Get the 3/4" dia port one from Wicks (P/N OIL-BS3/4) for around $50 and do the
pot scrubber mod defined in the archives. It's a no brainer.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
<html><body>
<DIV>Thanks, it's more like <STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>$87.50 now and looks
suspiciously like the $50 one in ACS!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>lucky</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Vanremog@aol.com
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<DIV>In a message dated 7/30/2006 10:14:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, luckymacy@comcast.net
writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Any
make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such
a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who
is actually using one so this one goes out to the list.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>Get the 3/4" dia port one from Wicks (P/N OIL-BS3/4) for around $50 and do
the pot scrubber mod defined in the archives. It's a no brainer.
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">GV (RV-6A N1GV
O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 801hrs, Silicon Valley, CA) </FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
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| Subject: | Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Mike
I used an 1/8 inch wood dowel. I did tape the dowel in so it wood remain in
position. and I also taped the bottom edge of the elevator to the bending
break. I also couldn't believe how much force)it took to get the edge to be
straight/true/and the correct radius.
Frank @ SGU and SLC finish................
>From: "Michael D. Cencula" <matr onics@cencula.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A)
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:58:48 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com>
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm building the jig to bend the trailing edges of the elevators on my
>RV-7A.
>Does anyone know the correct bend radius for these trailing edges?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 4:47:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
luckymacy@comcast.net writes:
Thanks, it's more like $87.50 now and looks suspiciously like the $50 one in
ACS!
lucky
-------------- Original message --------------
In a message dated 7/30/2006 10:14:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
luckymacy@comcast.net writes:
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such a
wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who is
actually using one so this one goes out to the list.
===========================
Get the 3/4" dia port one from Wicks (P/N OIL-BS3/4) for around $50 and do
the pot scrubber mod defined in the archives. It's a no brainer.
Ask ACS why they don't sell the 3/4" port version. They are made by the
same company.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) |
In a message dated 7/30/2006 5:14:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
fstringham@hotmail.com writes:
I did tape the dowel in so it wood remain in
position.
No pun intended? Got wood? Do not archive.
-GV
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) |
Mike, if you want a nice flying airplane in pitch feel use a 1/4" dowel.
The tighter the radius, the heavier the airplane will be in pitch.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 7/30/06, Michael D. Cencula <matronics@cencula.com> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com
> >
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm building the jig to bend the trailing edges of the elevators on my
> RV-7A.
> Does anyone know the correct bend radius for these trailing edges?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
In a message dated 07/30/2006 12:14:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
luckymacy@comcast.net writes:
Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay for
airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.
>>>>
See: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5172
and click >>Next Entry>> at top of page for more info on my prosecution of
this "problem". Also, do NOT dump crap from separators back into your expen$ive
engine- if the engine wanted this crap in there in the first place, it
wouldn't have puked it out!
Mark Phillips do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trailing edge bend radius (RV-7A) |
Mike,
On Drawing 4pp it shows 3/32 as the minimum bend radius. This was for .020
skins when I built mine about 5 years ago. Actually, I didn't put anything
in to maintain that radius. But I did have a little trouble with the
stiffeners limiting the travel. As a result the skins are not as smooth as they
could be. I made my "brake" out of some old door jambs and hinges. It seems
like it would be hard to keep a dowel in position. Let us know how it works
out, please.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
In a message dated 7/30/2006 7:03:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
matronics@cencula.com writes:
I'm building the jig to bend the trailing edges of the elevators on my
RV-7A.
Does anyone know the correct bend radius for these trailing edges?
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | AirVenture 2006 Award Winning RVs |
Once again, the RV's were well represented among those earning awards
at AirVenture. Congratulations to all, from one who appreciates
anyone's project that is finished and flying!
Ken Brooks
N1903P
RV-8 Finishing
Roscoe, IL
P.S. We had just started breaking camp this morning at Camp Scholler
when we got clobbered by a storm that snapped the tent poles on one
of our tents and tipped over 3 port-a-potties, one of which my wife
had just been visiting minutes earlier! Worth the price of admission!!
------------------------------------
OUTSTANDING WORKMANSHIP
Michael Quatacker, Porterville CA
Q-8 N8MQ, N8MQ
Dennis McCright, Montgomery TX
RV-6, N16DD
Gregory Johnson, Tucson AZ
RV-6, N72AT
Julian Smith, Hernando MS
RV-8, N858JD
Robert Watson, Phelan CA
RV-9A, N194BN
BRONZE LINDY
James Miller, Sun Prairie WI
RV-8, N312JM
Alan Carroll, Madison WI
RV-8, N12AC
Mark Robinson, Vista CA
RV-9A, N249GM
Will Mensink
RV-8, N361WM
Richard McBride, Centerville VA
RV-8, N523RJ
Mark Navratil, Marion IA
RV-8A, N2D
Phillip Thompson, Lakeway, TX
RV-7, N267RV
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
I'm not convinced on these things...not sure if the one on my purchased RV-4 is
clogged or what, but the belly get's just as dirty in 4 flights than it would
without one. I've got a return going into the crank case, and and exit going
out by the exaust, and am getting ALOT of oil on the belly after 8-10 hours if
I don't clean it regularly.
Again, it may be clogged or something, but unfortunately there is no way to take
it apart and see.
Paul Besing
lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net> wrote:
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see such a wide
range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone who is actally
using one so this one goes out to the list.
Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on ebay for airplanes.
I thought this would be an easy salvage item to find.
For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you modifying the
dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
thx,
lucky
do not archive
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| Subject: | AirVenture 2006 Award Winning RVs |
That reminds me. Until I started building RVs, I didn't much pay attention
to the riveting that puts the Porta-Potties together. But you can really do
some nice things with those pulled rivets.
(g)
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenyon Brooks
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:36 PM
Once again, the RV's were well represented among those earning awards at
AirVenture. Congratulations to all, from one who appreciates anyone's
project that is finished and flying!
Ken Brooks
N1903P
RV-8 Finishing
Roscoe, IL
P.S. We had just started breaking camp this morning at Camp Scholler when
we got clobbered by a storm that snapped the tent poles on one of our tents
and tipped over 3 port-a-potties, one of which my wife had just been
visiting minutes earlier! Worth the price of admission!!
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| Subject: | TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
Hey guys,
I'm reluctant to post this but feel like I need to share it in hopes it
never happens again. I was at OSH this morning (Sunday) and due to the
rain showers my 5-year old son Skyler and I decided to hang out at the
flightline for a while until the wx improved for our flight home. There
was a whole line of aircraft coming down the taxiway right in front of us
to depart OSH. I noticed a white RV-6 with blue striped trim waiting in
line a couple hundred feet from us, coming towards us, and right behind
him was a huge TBM Avenger. The thought passed through my mind that
somebody out working the flightline should be standing off to the side of
the TBM to give him signals for taxiing, since it was virtually
impossible for him to see the RV over his nose even with S-turns. My
thoughts were interrupted by the roar of jet engines as a couple L-39's
took off in formation followed by a couple Pitts Model 12's and other
interesting aircraft.
I looked back down the taxiway just in time to see the RV-6, now less
than a hundred feet from us, coming to a stop with the TBM still right
behind it. We watched in shock as the TBM continued right into the tail
of the RV. At that moment I was only thinking about how bad it would be
to have your tail chewed up by somebody's propeller, but that thought
turned to horror as the TBM continued to move, wacking through the
fuselage and sending strips of metal flying. When it got to the baggage
compartment, clothing and other gear was being strewn into the air and
across the grass. I should have closed my eyes before it got to the
cockpit. I'll spare you the details but suffice it to say it was
horrific. The prop on the TBM finally stopped somewhere in the vicinity
of the rollbar / panel but of course by that time it was too late....the
fire truck and other rescue personnel were there in moments by I knew
there was nothing they could do but pull out the white sheet and drape it
over the mess.
I don't know who the unfortunate RV pilot was (and by the way, I'm not
sure he was solo, but I think he was). Regardless, I've been feeling
physically ill all day and the scene just keeps replaying in my mind. It
seems like such a preventable accident....I know the poor guy in the
Avenger will get the blame (and I sure feel sorry for him too!) but it
was really a failure of the system when a spotter along side the TBM
would have prevented this tragic loss of life. Even though there's
probably nothing I could have done, I still feel sick about it, because I
noticed the situation and regret that I didn't at least try to point it
out to one of the busy flightline volunteers...
I hope the folks at EAA make it standard policy from now on to have
spotters available to help out any taildragger pilot who needs a second
set of eyes for taxiing. And it's a good reminder to be extra vigilant
not only at Oshkosh but at any airport to pay attention to who's behind
you. We're used to looking right/left/forward when moving about the
airport but if you're like me you don't worry too much about what's
behind you. Well, when we left OSH this afternoon in the -8A, there was
a T-6 behind us and I can guarantee you we were nervously checking our
six about every 10 seconds to make sure he wasn't getting too close.
My heartfelt condolences and deepest sympathies go out to the family of
the unfortunate RV-6 pilot we lost today.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D with 70+ hours of cheating death so far...
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| Subject: | Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH |
--> RV-List message posted by: Cory Emberson <bootless@earthlink.net>
Dear Mark,
What an incredibly difficult thing to witness and write about. Thank you
for keeping our safety in mind, and I share your condolences to all
involved in this very tragic accident.
best, Cory
do not archive
Mark E Navratil wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
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>Hey guys,
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>I'm reluctant to post this but feel like I need to share it in hopes it
>never happens again. I was at OSH this morning (Sunday) and due to the
>rain showers my 5-year old son Skyler and I decided to hang out at the
>flightline for a while until the wx improved for our flight home. There
>was a whole line of aircraft coming down the taxiway right in front of us
>to depart OSH. I noticed a white RV-6 with blue striped trim waiting in
>line a couple hundred feet from us, coming towards us, and right behind
>him was a huge TBM Avenger. The thought passed through my mind that
>somebody out working the flightline should be standing off to the side of
>the TBM to give him signals for taxiing, since it was virtually
>impossible for him to see the RV over his nose even with S-turns. My
>thoughts were interrupted by the roar of jet engines as a couple L-39's
>took off in formation followed by a couple Pitts Model 12's and other
>interesting aircraft.
>
>I looked back down the taxiway just in time to see the RV-6, now less
>than a hundred feet from us, coming to a stop with the TBM still right
>behind it. We watched in shock as the TBM continued right into the tail
>of the RV. At that moment I was only thinking about how bad it would be
>to have your tail chewed up by somebody's propeller, but that thought
>turned to horror as the TBM continued to move, wacking through the
>fuselage and sending strips of metal flying. When it got to the baggage
>compartment, clothing and other gear was being strewn into the air and
>across the grass. I should have closed my eyes before it got to the
>cockpit. I'll spare you the details but suffice it to say it was
>horrific. The prop on the TBM finally stopped somewhere in the vicinity
>of the rollbar / panel but of course by that time it was too late....the
>fire truck and other rescue personnel were there in moments by I knew
>there was nothing they could do but pull out the white sheet and drape it
>over the mess.
>
>I don't know who the unfortunate RV pilot was (and by the way, I'm not
>sure he was solo, but I think he was). Regardless, I've been feeling
>physically ill all day and the scene just keeps replaying in my mind. It
>seems like such a preventable accident....I know the poor guy in the
>Avenger will get the blame (and I sure feel sorry for him too!) but it
>was really a failure of the system when a spotter along side the TBM
>would have prevented this tragic loss of life. Even though there's
>probably nothing I could have done, I still feel sick about it, because I
>noticed the situation and regret that I didn't at least try to point it
>out to one of the busy flightline volunteers...
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>I hope the folks at EAA make it standard policy from now on to have
>spotters available to help out any taildragger pilot who needs a second
>set of eyes for taxiing. And it's a good reminder to be extra vigilant
>not only at Oshkosh but at any airport to pay attention to who's behind
>you. We're used to looking right/left/forward when moving about the
>airport but if you're like me you don't worry too much about what's
>behind you. Well, when we left OSH this afternoon in the -8A, there was
>a T-6 behind us and I can guarantee you we were nervously checking our
>six about every 10 seconds to make sure he wasn't getting too close.
>
>My heartfelt condolences and deepest sympathies go out to the family of
>the unfortunate RV-6 pilot we lost today.
>
>--Mark Navratil
>Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>RV-8A N2D with 70+ hours of cheating death so far...
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
Mark E Navratil wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Mark E Navratil <czechsix@juno.com>
>
>Hey guys,
>
>I'm reluctant to post this but feel like I need to share it in hopes it
>never happens again.
>
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