Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:03 AM - Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH (Mitchell Faatz)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: Elevator TE Problem (Folbrecht, Paul)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH (czechsix@juno.com)
4. 07:19 AM - Re: Air Oil Separators (rveighta)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: Air Oil Separators (D.Bristol)
6. 09:24 AM - Oil temp limits (Charles Heathco)
7. 09:33 AM - Further thread on airborne weather services! (Morocketman@aol.com)
8. 09:48 AM - Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! (sportav8r@aol.com)
9. 09:49 AM - Who from MT was at OSH (Ralph E. Capen)
10. 10:22 AM - Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! (Ed Anderson)
11. 10:39 AM - Re: Oil temp limits (RVer273sb@aol.com)
12. 11:23 AM - Mid time 0-235 for sale (Moore, Warren)
13. 11:31 AM - Rear Prop Gov. Questions (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
14. 11:58 AM - RV 10 Mike Seager training at (1m5) (John McMahon)
15. 12:01 PM - TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH and other OSH stuff (Michael)
16. 12:19 PM - oil cooler and vernatherm (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com)
17. 12:22 PM - Re: Oil temp limits (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
18. 12:27 PM - Re: Oil temp limits (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
19. 01:38 PM - Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! (Morocketman@aol.com)
20. 01:38 PM - Re: Oil temp limits (Kevin Horton)
21. 01:55 PM - Re: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH and other OSH stuff (Rob Prior (rv7))
22. 03:49 PM - Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? (Charles Heathco)
23. 04:32 PM - Re: oil cooler and vernatherm (Mike Kraus)
24. 04:39 PM - Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! (Mike Kraus)
25. 05:15 PM - Re: Rear Prop Gov. Questions (Dale Ensing)
26. 05:15 PM - Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... (Matt Dralle)
27. 05:48 PM - Re: oil cooler and vernatherm (D.Bristol)
28. 05:58 PM - Looking for Reports on new David Clark X-11 Headset (tcolson)
29. 05:58 PM - Small mirrow (John McMahon)
30. 06:19 PM - Re: Small mirrow (James Freeman)
31. 06:49 PM - Re: Landing Gear (MLWynn@aol.com)
32. 06:53 PM - Re: Small mirrow (RV6 Flyer)
33. 07:05 PM - Re: Stuff For Sale (Mike Kraus)
34. 07:08 PM - Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! (Larry Bowen)
35. 07:47 PM - Re: Air Oil Separators (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | Re: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mitchell Faatz <mitch@skybound.com>
Amazingly, one report said the pilot was unharmed but the passenger (a
63 year old man from Canada) was killed.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Airshow_Fatality.html?source=mypi
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator TE Problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
Jerry & Dennis,
I did make it to OSH on Saturday (I'm in Milwaukee and would have gone
the whole week if I could have), and talked to Van's, who recommended
leaving it as is. I looked at the 9A demonstrator... and sure enuf the
TE wedge on the elevators protrudes 1/16" or so just like mine.
So that's what I did.
Time: 07:46:31 AM PST US
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
Folbrecht, Paul wrote:
> I sent this to Vans yesterday and then realized that they, along with
> everyone else in the world and everyone elses brother, is up at OSH
> this week.
>
> Hello,
>
> 9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners
> prevent the TE from going in all the way it sticks out about 1/16
> past the skins. Options:
>
> 1) Trim the stiffeners. Since theyre (obviously) installed, I cant see
> how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin.
>
> 2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16 and leave it like that.
> There would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for
> structural soundness.
>
> 3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/trim it afterwards.
>
> None of these options is terribly inviting. Which is the best?
>
I don't know how close to the end of the stiffeners the rivets are, but
in some cases you can slip a thin strip of alum. between the stiffener
and the skin to protect the skin and use a die grinder or dremel tool to
cut the ends of the stiffeners off.
Jerry
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________________________________ Message 9
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Time: 07:55:22 AM PST US
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A"
--> <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
I had a similar problem on my 7A rudder, only at the other end
(stiffeners interfered with the spar). I slipped a thin piece of
aluminum between the skin and the stiffener and used my dremel tool with
a cutoff wheel - very carefully!!
A fourth option is to trim the TE wedge locally to clear the stiffeners
- mark the locations and 'deburr' away the TE wedge with your
scotchbright wheel to clear the stiffeners.
Dennis Glaeser
7A - Finishing Kit
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9A builder #1176 here. Starting TE on right elevator. The stiffeners
prevent the TE from going in all the way - it sticks out about 1/16"
past the skins. Options:
1) Trim the stiffeners. Since they're (obviously) installed, I can't see
how I can realistically do this without damaging the skin.
2) Install the TE wedge sticking out 1/16" and leave it like that. There
would be enough room from the rivets to the LE of the wedge for
structural soundness.
3) Install the TE wedge as-is and file/
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| Subject: | RE: TBM Avenger / RV-6 accident at OSH |
Ok, I see the news story that the pax was killed and the pilot survived.
I hate spreading misinformation so I apologize for not getting the fact
s straight....I'm also amazed that anyone in that cockpit could have sur
vived the accident! We were watching from the passenger's side of the R
V at a slight angle when it happened, after the loud noises stopped the
prop was in the cockpit area and the canopy was gone....and I couldn't s
ee anybody at all in the cockpit. We watched for a few minutes and I did
n't see anybody get out. When the rescue crew arrived, they took a look
inside and then backed everybody away and appeared to be covering it up
with white sheets when we left the scene (remember I had a 5 year old wi
th me so we didn't stick around for a long time...). So what I saw seeme
d to confirm that there was no possibility of survivors.
Anyway, very glad the pilot miraculously escaped and next time I'll chec
k the news before posting something of serious nature like this...
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D
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<P>Ok, I see the news story that the pax was killed and the pilot surviv
ed. I hate spreading misinformation so I apologize for not getting the f
acts straight....I'm also amazed that anyone in that cockpit could have
survived the accident! We were watching from the passenger's side
of the RV at a slight angle when it happened, after the loud noises stop
ped the prop was in the cockpit area and the canopy was gone....and I co
uldn't see anybody at all in the cockpit. We watched for a few minutes a
nd I didn't see anybody get out. When the rescue crew arrived, they took
a look inside and then backed everybody away and appeared to be&nb
sp;covering it up with white sheets when we left the scene (remember I h
ad a 5 year old with me so we didn't stick around for a long time...). S
o what I saw seemed to confirm that there was no possibility of survivor
s.</P>
<P>Anyway, very glad the pilot miraculously escaped and next time I'll c
heck the news before posting something of serious nature like this...</P
>
<P>--Mark Navratil<BR>Cedar Rapids, Iowa<BR>RV-8A N2D</P></FONT></html>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
The oil might not be coming from the vent. It doesn't take a very big
leak to make a real mess.
Dave
Paul Besing wrote:
> I'm not convinced on these things...not sure if the one on my
> purchased RV-4 is clogged or what, but the belly get's just as dirty
> in 4 flights than it would without one. I've got a return going into
> the crank case, and and exit going out by the exaust, and am getting
> ALOT of oil on the belly after 8-10 hours if I don't clean it regularly.
>
> Again, it may be clogged or something, but unfortunately there is no
> way to take it apart and see.
>
> Paul Besing
>
>
> lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see
> such a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know
> anyone who is actally using one so this one goes out to the list.
>
> Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on
> ebay for airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item
> to find.
>
> For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you
> modifying the dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
>
> thx,
> lucky
> do not archive
>
>
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I have noticed my newer engine is running hotter oil temp than the older
one. Used to be 190-200 max. now its going up to 220-230.
Anyone can say for sure what max norm opr and also max safe temp should
be? Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Further thread on airborne weather services! |
Has anyone tried a CELL PHONE weather system with success or failure?
Primarily due to limited cockpit space, I am considering buying a new cell phone
with a larger than average screen and using Velcro to attach it to the panel.
Do you like/dislike your weather on the cell phone?
Whose service do you have/have tried in the past?
What problems does anyone see with it? i.e. Is it illegal to use cell phone
in an airplane?
What were the costs involved? Connection fee? Monthly service? Additional
minutes, etc?
Thanks listers, you are a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, Les Featherston
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| Subject: | Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! |
Les, first try using your cell phone for voice or text from the plane. It can
be a frustrating excercise unless you're down low. You'll want to experiment
before spending the bucks, unless getting wx only before departure is what you're
after.
That said, I was able to make several phone calls from the air this weekend, checking
out the aux feature of my new LightSpeed Mach one headset (worked beautifully)
but I was only at about 1500' AGL at the time.
As to cellular or in-cockpit wx services, never used them yet so cannot comment
intelligently. Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:32 PM
Has anyone tried a CELL PHONE weather system with success or failure? Primarily
due to limited cockpit space, I am considering buying a new cell phone with
a larger than average screen and using Velcro to attach it to the panel.
Do you like/dislike your weather on the cell phone?
Whose service do you have/have tried in the past?
What problems does anyone see with it? i.e. Is it illegal to use cell phone in
an airplane?
What were the costs involved? Connection fee? Monthly service? Additional minutes,
etc?
Thanks listers, you are a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, Les Featherston
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| Subject: | Who from MT was at OSH |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Just lookig to find out who from MT was there.
I'm expecting my prop back from MT in FL - getting the correct length hub/spinner
to fit my SamJames cowl.
Ralph Capen
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| Subject: | Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! |
I have used Ram-Page Cell phone weather service
http://avwx.net/home.php. It only cost around $7.00/month at the time,
I think for the price it was a great service. Having said that, it
could be frustratingly slow in downloading radar/satellite photos. I
tried to use it once airborne, but was at 7500 ft over west central
Texas where cell towers are not plentiful. I did use it to check
weather when landing at air patches with no computer connections.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
----- Original Message -----
From: Morocketman@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: RV-List: Further thread on airborne weather services!
Has anyone tried a CELL PHONE weather system with success or failure?
Primarily due to limited cockpit space, I am considering buying a new
cell phone with a larger than average screen and using Velcro to attach
it to the panel.
Do you like/dislike your weather on the cell phone?
Whose service do you have/have tried in the past?
What problems does anyone see with it? i.e. Is it illegal to use cell
phone in an airplane?
What were the costs involved? Connection fee? Monthly service?
Additional minutes, etc?
Thanks listers, you are a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, Les
Featherston
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp limits |
Lycoming says 240 degrees max..
Lee RV 4
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| Subject: | Mid time 0-235 for sale |
My hanger buddy is parting out a varieze and will be looking to sell a mid
time Lycoming 0-235, 1200 since new, and he has all the log books. Located
at Cable airport, Upland California. If interested contact me off the list
via email or 310-251-2743. Do not archive
thanks, Warren Moore, RV4 223WM.
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| Subject: | Rear Prop Gov. Questions |
I posted this last week, but didn't get answers.
Maybe someone on the list could point me to a picture of a rear mounted prop
governor so I could get a feel for how much room there is. Probably an
O-360 would be the same.
Thanks,
Dan
I searched the archives, but couldn't find answers to these questions.
I am thinking of putting an IO-360-A1A engine in my RV-7A. It has been
flying with an IO-360-A1D6 which has a front mounted governor.
Could someone on the list please tell me approximately what the thickness of
the rear mounted prop governor adapter pad is on an IO-360-A1A? I have an
old one that measures about 2 1/16 inches. Is there a thinner one available?
The dimension I need is from the accessory case to the prop governor itself.
Also, will the McCauley governor off the left front of my IO-360-A1D6 work
on the rear of the -A1A? There is about 3 percent difference in the drive
ratio -- 0.866 vs 0.895. I would assume that the governor could be adjusted for
this difference. Is there some other reason why it won't work?
Thanks,
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | RV 10 Mike Seager training at (1m5) |
Mike Saeger will be in Portland,Tn (1M5) 50 miles north of Nashville,Tn
Sept 13,14,15..He will be giving
flight training in the factory RV-10..The cost is $155.00 per Hr.If you
are interested in flying with Mike,
please E-Mail me at (rv6@earthlink.net) or call me at 615-452-8742..When
I get a feel for who is interested
I will set up a schedule to accommodate you..First come first serve!!
There is a Motel in Franklin,Ky $98.00 nite,270-598-8001 Hampton Inn..
John McMahon (RV6
180/CS) Flying
Gallatin,Tn
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| Subject: | TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH and other OSH stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
>I'm reluctant to post this but feel like I need to share it in hopes it
never happens again...........
Man, this was definitely in the "could have happened to me" category, from
the cockpit of BOTH aircraft. I had a T-18 homebuilt behind me. Red with
orange stripes. Ask me how I know (see below).
Now: what do we learn from this. Yes, be vigilant, but you can't see and
predict everything. Who would have thought the TBM pilot would not have been
REALLY vigilant when taxiing around with smaller airplanes everywhere (you
can't see squat from the front seat of a TBM). The RV pilot should have been
vigilant as to where the huge aircraft behind him was (you can see squat
from an RV, however). NOT to place blame on ANYONE; you just can't see
everything all the time. S-turning helps you see most everything, but
obviously, not everything. Spacing while taxiing can be variable at any
airport. Some who saw this happen said there were three RV's in a row and
the TBM pilot may have lost count of how many there were. Who knows; I was
not there.
Lord knows I have had some stupid close calls while taxiing. (Young stud J-3
pilot, pulls up in front of the open hanger and powers the tail around only
to slam the wingtip into the hanger door frame. Still have the piece with
the two shallow grooves in it to remind myself what a hotshot I was.)
I have a mirror for seeing behind me and use it every time I fly. I use it
to check rudder movement on preflight control check, check passengers to see
how much they are enjoying the flight, check six for aircraft, both in the
air and on the ground, especially when I do a mag check. Nothing like
blasting the airplanes behind you because you didn't look. When I was in
line yesterday at OSH, I was looking in the mirror to see six traffic. That
was the T-18. I also used it as I departed to make sure someone wasn't
running up my tail. Should it be standard equipment? No; it's just my
preference. One mirror would not work as well in a -6/7 as there is another
side of the airplane you can't see behind.
>I hope the folks at EAA make it standard policy from now on to have
spotters >available to help out any tail dragger pilot who needs a second
set of eyes for> taxiing.
Being one of those EAA folks that "works the line", I can comment on that.
There is not the personnel available to "spot" every large airplane that
gets in the mix with smaller airplanes on an 8,000 foot-long taxiway.
Especially on the last day, a lot of those volunteers (me) are in their
airplanes leaving, too. But even when the convention is in full tilt boogie,
there aren't enough people; impossible task. We try to see events like the
above before they get to the destructive phase, but you just can't see
everything. You would be amazed how many "events" we do stop at an early
phase. Example: this year, I only saw two aircraft attempting to land on the
(very active) taxi way. Both diverted and used the runway, thanks to some
sharp-eyed tower controllers. The fewest attempts in years. And no actually
landings on the taxi way, either. Maybe a first. You can't fly the airplane
for them, and you can't taxi it for them. When you get 10-13,000 airplanes
in the same area all at the same time, things can happen. As EAA volunteers,
we do everything we can to help avoid situations as happened Sunday. But you
can't see and intervene in all of them. Ah, that we could.
Another note: I was appalled this year at the radio chatter as I sat in the
departure line between storms yesterday at OSH, a wait of about 20 minutes.
There was PLENTY mouthy chatter (way too much; any mouthy chatter at ALL is
too much) with people complaining to the controllers (why them?) on the
TOWER FREQUENCY about the A-10 departure delay, the AeroShell T-6 departure
delay, sitting in line too long and cylinder head temperatures, threatening
to shut down on the runway to just prove to someone how unhappy he was, etc.
You get the occasional quip on the tower frequency but yesterday was a study
in anger, meanness, immaturity, and "all about ME"-ness. It was NOT the
controllers that scheduled the A-10 departure while we were waiting in line
in the rain. It wasn't the EAA that scheduled the rain while we were waiting
in line for the A-10s. So who do you blame? Why didn't the complainers leave
Saturday when the weather was better? Maybe it was the complainers fault for
not planning ahead. I have taxied at OSH for 45 minutes, including a change
in runways that took forever for everyone to line up again. Even with that
there was little complaining. Yesterday, with a VICIOUS storm having just
moved through and who-knows-what-else about to descend on us again, tempers
were short. Getting in a hurry, being angry and frustrated are not conducive
to intelligent decisions while flying (or taxiing). This is NOT to say this
was a contributing factor in the accident, just an observation of our
increasingly angry world. Too bad aviation can't be exempt from such.
I am sad for the pilot of the TBM, the people who had to witness that event,
the pilot next to his passenger that died and the passenger. It reinforces
that all we have is now and not much else and something totally
unpredictable can sneak up and bite you when you least expect it. A good
friend of mine died in his -4 when another airplane landed on his as he
landed at a TOWER-CONTROLLED AIRPORT. Yikes. The closest encounter I had
yesterday was 20 miles from my home field in Colorado (flying home from OSH)
when a CAP C-182 passed overhead from my 8 o'clock, but 100 feet higher.
Would I have seen him if he wasn't just a little higher? I don't know. It
would have been a collision course. He didn't see me, even when I rocked my
wings. It was an eye-opener.
Stay safe; keep looking, including in the rear-view mirror.
Michael
N232 Suzie Q
Great time at OSH; good to be home. Dryer, anyway.......
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| Subject: | oil cooler and vernatherm |
--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I am considering purchasing the oil cooler shutter that Vans offers, but
dont exactly understand the need for this product. Shouldnt a correctly
operating vernatherm, which most of our engines come with, do the same
job, or am I missing something?
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp limits |
--> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
In a message dated 7/31/06 12:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cheathco@cox.net writes:
> I have noticed my newer engine is running hotter oil temp than the older
one.
> Used to be 190-200 max. now its going up to 220-230.
> Anyone can say for sure what max norm opr and also max safe temp should
be?
> Charlie Heathco
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Charlie:
You did not mention which engine you have? Most engine manufactures
recommend 245 - 250 Deg F as the Max point. This is also the accepted point by
oil
manufactures as well.
You are correct you will be seeing higher oil and CHT's with a new engine, it
is breaking in. Keep your climbs shallow, air speed high and the RPMs high
also. Don't baby the engine, oil consumption should stabilize in 50 hours or a
little less. Change your oil after the first 10 hours and then at 20 hour
intervals until oil consumption is stabilized
Your 220 - 230 Deg F is quite normal especially for this time of year.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
"Show them the first time, correct them the second time, kick them the third
time."
Yamashiada
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp limits |
--> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
In a message dated 7/31/06 12:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cheathco@cox.net writes:
> I have noticed my newer engine is running hotter oil temp than the older
one.
> Used to be 190-200 max. now its going up to 220-230.
> Anyone can say for sure what max norm opr and also max safe temp should
be?
> Charlie Heathco
=============================
Charlie:
A PS to my previous post...
You did not mention what the CHT were. If yo have a gage keep them LOW ...
Lycoming use to say 500 Deg F, they recently went down to 450 Deg F, I have my
limit of No Higher than 435 Deg F.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
"Show them the first time, correct them the second time, kick them the third
time."
Yamashiada
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| Subject: | Re: Further thread on airborne weather services! |
Thank you Ed! The website you mentioned avwx.net/home.php was just the
answer I wanted. They stated that airborne reception was "spotty, at best", and
that the FAA doesn't consider them an approved preflight source. The other
little hidden cost was also a surprise............your cell phone has to be
web-enabled by your provider at an additional cost.
O.K. We have got cell phones covered. What are the best devices to receive
airborne weather services?
Good work Ed, Les Featherston
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp limits |
On 31 Jul 2006, at 12:21, Charles Heathco wrote:
> I have noticed my newer engine is running hotter oil temp than the
> older one. Used to be 190-200 max. now its going up to 220-230.
> Anyone can say for sure what max norm opr and also max safe temp
> should be? Charlie Heathco
>
Is this with the same oil temp sender and indicator as the old
engine? Has the oil temp indication system been calibrated so you
are sure it is telling you the truth?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH and other OSH stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
Having seen almost the same scenario played out at Reno a number of years
ago, with a Sea Fury taxiing up the back end of a Lancair, I can see how it
happens. It's a large plane, with (I would guess) a high workload during
taxi and run-up. Losing track of just how many small planes are in front
of you would be very easy. In the incident I witnessed, the Lancair was
pushed ahead enough by the impact that by the time the Sea Fury shut down
he was still a foot from the cockpit. But the Lancair was still running,
and as I recall it taxiied itself further ahead before shutting down to get
out and inspect the damage.
Still, my condolences to all involved, if anyone here knows any of them.
As someone pointed out, it was a relatively incident-free year at Oshkosh
this year, it's unfortunate that this had to be one of the incidents.
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for Iridium plugs? |
May have all info you need. I have Irridiums I put in year ago, I burn
mostly mogas, so cant say much about lead exept that when I do burn some
out of my left "takeoff" tank I have no fouling. They stay clean as a
whislte all the time. They are expensive. Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | oil cooler and vernatherm |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Contrary to what I have read on some of the posts, the vernitherm always
lets a bit of oil through to the oil cooler. I know because I tested
it.
By blocking the airflow to the oil cooler, you will be able to raise the
oil temp. My concern with Van's set-up is that when their shutter is
open, it is also blocking 1/2 of the air to the oil cooler..... So when
your engine is running hot and you need to cool the oil real bad, you
are losing airflow. I know you could remove it in the summer, but that
would defeat the purpose.
-Mike Kraus
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:18 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
I am considering purchasing the oil cooler shutter that Vans offers,
but dont exactly understand the need for this product. Shouldnt a
correctly operating vernatherm, which most of our engines come with, do
the same job, or am I missing something?
Erich Weaver
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| Subject: | Further thread on airborne weather services! |
The biggest obstacle would be getting the phone to work at anything over
2,000' agl. Mine works close to the ground, but it never works at the
altitudes I fly.
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Morocketman@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:32 PM
Has anyone tried a CELL PHONE weather system with success or failure?
Primarily due to limited cockpit space, I am considering buying a new
cell phone with a larger than average screen and using Velcro to attach
it to the panel.
Do you like/dislike your weather on the cell phone?
Whose service do you have/have tried in the past?
What problems does anyone see with it? i.e. Is it illegal to use cell
phone in an airplane?
What were the costs involved? Connection fee? Monthly service?
Additional minutes, etc?
Thanks listers, you are a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, Les
Featherston
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| Subject: | Re: Rear Prop Gov. Questions |
Dan,
I'll try to get a decent picture tomorrow of my rear mounted govenor.
However, my set up is a Woodward govenor on a O-360 in a 6A. But, if you
think it well help I'll send the picture.
Dale Ensing
Maybe someone on the list could point me to a picture of a rear
mounted prop governor so I could get a feel for how much room there is.
Probably an O-360 would be the same.
Thanks,
Dan
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| Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler and vernatherm |
The vernatherm only bypasses the oil cooler, it does not restrict the
flow to it, so you will always have some oil going to the cooler.
Dave
Mike Kraus wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
>Contrary to what I have read on some of the posts, the vernitherm always
>lets a bit of oil through to the oil cooler. I know because I tested
>it.
>
>By blocking the airflow to the oil cooler, you will be able to raise the
>oil temp. My concern with Van's set-up is that when their shutter is
>open, it is also blocking 1/2 of the air to the oil cooler..... So when
>your engine is running hot and you need to cool the oil real bad, you
>are losing airflow. I know you could remove it in the summer, but that
>would defeat the purpose.
>
>-Mike Kraus
>
>-----Original Message-----
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:18 PM
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com
>
>
>I am considering purchasing the oil cooler shutter that Vans offers,
>but dont exactly understand the need for this product. Shouldnt a
>correctly operating vernatherm, which most of our engines come with, do
>the same job, or am I missing something?
>
>Erich Weaver
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Looking for Reports on new David Clark X-11 Headset |
Are there any RV pilots out there that can provide an objective report
on this new headset released at Oshkosh?
I am particularly interested in an evaluation in the noise environment
of a typical RV and how well the active noise cancellation works. The
rest looked pretty good at Oshkosh.
Thanks
Tom Olson
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Does any one have on their roll bar a small mirror,like about 1" wide
and about 3 or 4 inches long?? I have looked, and no luck!!
Where did you get it???
Thanks
John M (RV6 180/CS)
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| Subject: | Re: Small mirrow |
Try "baby mirrors" from a store that sells baby/infant supplies.
They are designed so parents can see their offspring in the back
seat. This is what's working for me in the RV-8
On Jul 31, 2006, at 7:57 PM, John McMahon wrote:
> Does any one have on their roll bar a small mirror,like about 1" wide
> and about 3 or 4 inches long?? I have looked, and no luck!!
> Where did you get it???
> Thanks
> John M (RV6 180/CS)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear |
This is really interesting stuff for a newbie like myself. Could not really
comment without some study but would really like to know what others think.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Wings
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
John:
Mine came from Pep Boys. I needed to add a small film of RTV over the clamp
so that it would stay in positon on the roll bar brace.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,917 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
Does any one have on their roll bar a small mirror,like about 1" wide
and about 3 or 4 inches long?? I have looked, and no luck!!
Where did you get it???
Thanks
John M (RV6 180/CS)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Do you still have the AOA for sale?
Please advise, thanks!
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rveighta
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:17 PM
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
I have the following items for sale:
ITEM CONDITION
PRICE
Angle of Attack (vans p/n IF AOA PRO) new $1,000
Microair 760 VHF Transciever slightly used
$575
Rose Electroair electronic ignition used
$400
RV-8(A) fiberglass wingtip light fairings new
$10
Westach CHT gauge (p/n 2C1) new
$15
Westach EGT gauge (p/n 2C2) new
$15
If you need additional info, email me direct or give me a call at (423)
257-6566.
Walt Shipley
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| Subject: | Further thread on airborne weather services! |
http://mobile.wunderground.com provides decent info for free if you can surf
the web via your phone. That was my plan before I invested in the 396. I
mostly used it on the ground, not in flight. I have a Treo 650 and verizon
service.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/>
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:38 PM
The biggest obstacle would be getting the phone to work at anything over
2,000' agl. Mine works close to the ground, but it never works at the
altitudes I fly.
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Morocketman@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:32 PM
Has anyone tried a CELL PHONE weather system with success or failure?
Primarily due to limited cockpit space, I am considering buying a new cell
phone with a larger than average screen and using Velcro to attach it to the
panel.
Do you like/dislike your weather on the cell phone?
Whose service do you have/have tried in the past?
What problems does anyone see with it? i.e. Is it illegal to use cell phone
in an airplane?
What were the costs involved? Connection fee? Monthly service? Additional
minutes, etc?
Thanks listers, you are a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, Les
Featherston
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| Subject: | Re: Air Oil Separators |
OK, I'll add a little to our story. We installed three separators (one
at a time), put in reducers to make them fit, 3/4" ID down to the sizes
on the separator, looped in a high point, put a relief hole in the top
of the loop and tried everything anyone could recommend to make them
work & not soil the belly. Blow-by did not seem to be a problem (newly
rebuilt) BUT too much oil in the sump and ANY restriction of the vent
line resulted in oil leaks. Two of the case/cover leaks disappeared &
have stayed gone as soon as we ran the vent full line size without
restriction. Two other leaks area were lessened but we loosened the
bolts holding them, added RTV & retorked them.
If we overfill by a cup, we get a cup of oil on the belly. We did
reinstall the full sized rubber line with a high loop and that solved
our problem. Your invited out & can stick your finger up in the vent
line and you'll get it dirty but not enough oil to form a single drop.
I realize that this is anecdotal and your mileage may differ BUT you
would have to talk long & loud to get us to put any separator back on
N561FS. HRII IO-540 J4A5 Do Not Archive. KABONG (GBA & GWB)
----- Original Message -----
From: D.Bristol
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Air Oil Separators
The oil might not be coming from the vent. It doesn't take a very big
leak to make a real mess.
Dave
Paul Besing wrote:
I'm not convinced on these things...not sure if the one on my
purchased RV-4 is clogged or what, but the belly get's just as dirty in
4 flights than it would without one. I've got a return going into the
crank case, and and exit going out by the exaust, and am getting ALOT of
oil on the belly after 8-10 hours if I don't clean it regularly.
Again, it may be clogged or something, but unfortunately there is no
way to take it apart and see.
Paul Besing
lucky <luckymacy@comcast.net> wrote:
Any make/model preference on these things? I was surprised to see
such a wide range of options in the ACS catalogue. I don't know anyone
who is actally using one so this one goes out to the list.
Anyone using the "experimental" $45 round one? I found none on
ebay for airplanes. I thought this would be an easy salvage item to
find.
For those that are routing the oil back into the engine, are you
modifying the dip stick housing to accept a return hose?
thx,
lucky
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