---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/07/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:06 AM - Re: Baggage Compartment Temperatures (DAVID REEL) 2. 05:03 AM - Re: Bose versus Lightspeed headset comparison (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 3. 06:03 AM - decorative prop (Frazier, Vincent A) 4. 07:03 AM - Re: Visionmicro Systems Moved or sold? (John Loretz) 5. 08:07 AM - Emergency! Planes & pilots needed for Young Eagles event in Westcliffe Colorado (C08) (Doc Custer) 6. 02:55 PM - Re: Visionmicro Systems Moved or sold? (John Loretz) 7. 05:43 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce terrible Service? (danbergeronham@aol.com) 8. 07:18 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce terrible Service? (Bob Collins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:01 AM PST US From: "DAVID REEL" Subject: Re: RV-List: Baggage Compartment Temperatures --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" 3M lists several metal foil vibration damping tapes. 2552 tape is for 40 to 140 degrees F which would be OK for the 110 degree F I measured on my firewall. 434, 435, and 436 tapes are for -76 to 68 degrees F. Too low to dampen vibration on the firewall at 110 degrees F. However, I'm more interested in temperature reduction than vibration damping & 3M is quiet concerning this property. Perhaps there is an insulating tape or ??? Dave Reel - RV8A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:18 AM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Bose versus Lightspeed headset comparison I believe it was the 20 series......I have the 30 series now. Not a great difference from 20 to 30. Doug DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:27 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: decorative prop From: "Frazier, Vincent A" My apologies for the spam. Delete if not interested. Here's a nice Hartzell 2 blade unairworthy prop to put on your wall. Similar, but slightly smaller to the Hartzells found on many Rockets and RV's. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hartzell-constant-speed-prop-propeller_W0 QQitemZ290026847977QQihZ019QQcategoryZ26439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem Vince ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:04 AM PST US From: John Loretz Subject: Re: RV-List: Visionmicro Systems Moved or sold? --> RV-List message posted by: John Loretz I too talk to VM on Thursday of last week and they said they would have to research my question and that they would get back to me last Friday or Monday... Well, almost a week gone by now and they haven't contacted me or returned my phone calls or emails... I'm getting a little aggravated to say the least! There website now says: "Dear Valued VMS Customer: Due to circumstances beyond our control, Vision Microsystems is being moved to Texas. The new location for VMS will be: 28120 Boerne Stage Airport Hanger 302 Boerne, TX 78006 Phone 830-755-6330 We are trying to make this a seamless transition and will try to ship small items during the transition. VMS is expecting to be fully operational by the end of November. Thank you for your cooperation. " I hope we don't have to wait until the end of November to get our questions answered and products shipped.... John Loretz RV8 - Denver, Colorado On Sep 5, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Roger Crandell wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Roger Crandell" > > I spoke with VM only a week ago. Friday and today when I called I > heard a recording stating VM has moved. The new number given in > the recording is 830-755-6330. I called the new number and > received another recording. I left a message at the new number on > Friday and have heard nothing back. The new number is in Boerne, > Texas near San Antonio. I have unfinished work to be done on my > system and need to contact them. I guess I will wait and hope > someome calls. > > Late this afternoon I called JP Instruments and asked what was > happening with VM. I could tell the person knew, but was unwilling > to tell me. They said the Company Controller, Scott, would call > me. Scott has not called. > > > Roger Crandell > > _________________________________________________________________ > Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE http://imagine-msn.com/ > messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:51 AM PST US From: "Doc Custer" Subject: RV-List: Emergency! Planes & pilots needed for Young Eagles event in Westcliffe Colorado (C08) do not archive Silverwest airport (C08) near Westcliffe Colorado is having an open house Saturday Sept. 9, 2006 from 7 AM until sometime in the afternoon. As part of the festivities EAA chapter 1422 is doing the Young Eagles thing. We have received lots of interest, much more than expected. And now one of our planes is down with a mechanical problem. If you are nearby and could help out, we would really appreciate it. A free lunch will be provided. Westcliffe is west of Pueblo CO in a high mountain valley, ~ 50 miles by road. Field elevation is about 8,000 ft. Runway is 7,000 ft. There is 100LL available. For mogas users I will personally truck it in for you in 5 gallon cans from a local gas station. We don't want to disappoint any youngster. If you can participate, please email or call me. Doc Custer email: ddcuster at wmv-co.us land line: 719-783-0245 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:42 PM PST US From: John Loretz Subject: Re: RV-List: Visionmicro Systems Moved or sold? --> RV-List message posted by: John Loretz All, I just spoke to Vision Micro... They freturned my call. They said they are alive and well, but they are having to relocate their facilities to Texas. He said that they are returning phone calls, just bear with them. Blue Skies, John On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:02 AM, John Loretz wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: John Loretz > > I too talk to VM on Thursday of last week and they said they would > have to research my question and that they would get back to me > last Friday or Monday... Well, almost a week gone by now and they > haven't contacted me or returned my phone calls or emails... > > I'm getting a little aggravated to say the least! There website > now says: > > > "Dear Valued VMS Customer: > Due to circumstances beyond our control, Vision Microsystems is > being moved to Texas. The new location for VMS will be: > > 28120 Boerne Stage Airport > Hanger 302 > Boerne, TX 78006 > > Phone 830-755-6330 > > We are trying to make this a seamless transition and will try to > ship small items during the transition. VMS is expecting to be > fully operational by the end of November. > > Thank you for your cooperation. " > > > I hope we don't have to wait until the end of November to get our > questions answered and products shipped.... > > John Loretz > RV8 - Denver, Colorado > > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Roger Crandell wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Roger Crandell" >> >> I spoke with VM only a week ago. Friday and today when I called I >> heard a recording stating VM has moved. The new number given in >> the recording is 830-755-6330. I called the new number and >> received another recording. I left a message at the new number on >> Friday and have heard nothing back. The new number is in Boerne, >> Texas near San Antonio. I have unfinished work to be done on my >> system and need to contact them. I guess I will wait and hope >> someome calls. >> >> Late this afternoon I called JP Instruments and asked what was >> happening with VM. I could tell the person knew, but was >> unwilling to tell me. They said the Company Controller, Scott, >> would call me. Scott has not called. >> >> >> >> Roger Crandell >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE http://imagine- >> msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- >> us&source=wlmailtagline >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:51 PM PST US From: danbergeronham@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce terrible Service? Re service from Aircraft Spruce: FWIW, I'm well into the fuse construction on an RV-7A, just finished up the flap actuator mechanism and moving on to the landing gear brackets. I haven't done a whole lot of business with ACS, probably three orders so far, but I've found them to be efficient and fast, one order went from GA to Chicopee, MA in two days, the longest having been three. All items ordered were in stock and arrived in good condition. I've no complaints and will do business with them again. I've ordered from Vans probably eight times and I've no complaints wth them either, it just takes a bit longer, but it's also a lot further. Part of it may simply be that USPS, UPS and FEDEX service out of Aurora, OR isn't as good as out of Atlanta, GA. Do not archive. Dan Bergeron RV-7A N307TB (Reseved) (Fuse w/ fewer & fewer unattached parts laying around) -----Original Message----- From: pbesing@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 1:53 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce terrible Service? Good points, Linn...basic supply chain issues here, and the scenario about all four people taking off for the summer is so true...lots of small businesses sell to ACS (including myself). Fortunately, making CD's for shipment isn't a big deal for me. Paul Besing linn Walters wrote: It's been a long time since I was in the parts ordering phase, but from the muttering, threats, and proposed dire consequences of those watching their bank account slowly dry up ..... there ain't nobody out there perfect. If you have a bad experience, maybe it's just your turn! In this age of instant gratification, picture this scenario ......... Vendor X (pick your favorite one) finds a really neat widget, and stocks 20 of them, and puts them in the online catalog and database. Joe 'big time' builder sees the widget, and has to have it. He installs the widget, loves it and then rants on the X list (again, pick your favorite one or many!) about how it reallyb works and saves ya big buck down the road. 700 listers read the email, and only 200 go online to the link provided and see there are still 19 widgets left. Hit the purchase button, enter your credit card info and sit back with much anticipation. Gotta have that widget!!!! Now pan to stage right where Vendor X s tarts filling that mountain of orders, and in one hour, the stock goes from 19 to zippo. There are now 181 backorders and purchasing is notified. Well, the backorder ed part goes into the que along with the other 264,789 items that are on 'bin low' status (remember that Vendor X has a 3" thick catalog of stuff ..... it's the reason you do business with them) ...... and they slog through the paperwork to order new stock. Your widget takes two weeks to make it to the top of the queue ..... and purchasing can't get hold of the MFGR because they're shut down for summer vacation and all four people are enjoying their time off. Meanwhile, Joe 'big time' builder has been calling everyday, along with the other 180 builders on the widget backorder list (by some stroke of luck, all the other orders have been filled ;-) ) and customer service is trying hard to answer the phone while listening to 180 different reasons why their project is most important and should bubble to the top of the backorder list immediately ........ and the phone keeps ringing, and the phone queue keeps getting longer ...... Well, so much for the scenario ..... one really neat widget has managed to p..s off 181 builders who rant on the list about the poor service of Vendor X .... which creates an exponential amount of emails extolling the virtues or failures of Vendor X. Solly Cholly! Crap happens in the real world. Me??? I'm just damn thankful I have two companies (mainly Wicks and ACS&S) that I can go to and get parts. Oh yeah, the order for 200 widgets made enough profit for the widget makers that they decided to retire and bail out of the ratrace ...... nad now Vendor X is looking for another supplier! Sorry for the creativity and loss of bandwidth, but I was on a roll!!! Linn do not archive Soapbox available now! Jim Sears wrote: I guess we can get bad service from anyone we deal with. I had a similar situation with ACS. It took over two months to get in an order that should have come in the first pass. The parts I really needed just dribbled in. I've not encountered that with Wicks. Around here, I talked with several others who had the same kinds of problems with ACS; so, I figured it was a company to not do business with. Later on, I helped another build a RV-9A. I had warned him of my problems with ACS; but, he tried them anyway. By the time he got his oil and fuel hoses, he was totally fed up with them. We can probably find poor service from any source we talk about; but, it's been my experience, and that of others, that Wicks has done a better job. Unfortunately, they don't have the same level of offerings as ACS. Like I said, I gave the company a second chance, as suggested. I was not satisfied. Jim in KY do not archive ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:16 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce terrible Service? // Re service from Aircraft Spruce: FWIW, I'm well into the fuse construction on an RV-7A, just finished up the flap actuator mechanism and moving on to the landing gear brackets. At the risk of breaking protocol by talking about building RVs (g), consider combining your fuel line run with the landing gear bracket installation. You might -- well, I'm guessing you WILL -- find it easier to route the lines properly by running them through the landing gear weldment BEFORE you install them for good. Now back to our bashing-of-the-week subject... Do not archive