---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/08/06: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:42 AM - Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 2. 08:00 AM - Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 3. 10:02 AM - ACS (Richard Seiders) 4. 11:19 AM - Looking for Dann Parks (HCRV6@comcast.net) 5. 12:38 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (Chuck) 6. 01:55 PM - Curious (Chuck) 7. 01:57 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 8. 02:06 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL (FLYaDIVE@aol.com) 9. 02:13 PM - Re: Looking for Dann Parks (Dave Cordner) 10. 03:29 PM - Re: RV6 down in Petaluma (passpat@aol.com) 11. 03:53 PM - Re: Curious (Sportypilot) 12. 03:57 PM - For Sale -- RV-7 () 13. 05:58 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 14. 06:02 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 15. 06:35 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL (FLYaDIVE@aol.com) 16. 07:15 PM - looking for Reno Tix (russ@wernerworld.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:02 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) Howdy Listers- Just to add fuel to the Primer Wars, please take a look here if you are interested in using self-etching primers on your project: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4863 Please reply OFF-LIST if any ?s... >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips - RV-6A "Mojo" 350 hrs since January, '04 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:38 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service Sorry for changing the subject line. I think that we should keep them separate! After calling customer service and getting nowhere, I posted what I thought was a legitimate complaint about ACS a couple of years ago on this list. Within a day I got a response from Jim Irwin saying that was not how ACS did business, and corrected the problem in a very professional manner. I am glad that Aircraft Spruce is in business, and I count myself among their many satisfied customers. Just placed another order a few minutes ago, in fact. Dan Hopper RV-7A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:03 AM PST US From: Richard Seiders Subject: RV-List: ACS --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Seiders I have ordered from Spruce I would guess at least 100 times over last 8 years. Never had a problem with service. The difference between catalog prices and what is quoted over phone is however almost always greater. (no, I am not using an 8 yr old catalog). I don't consider the price thing a problem either. Things change- especially in aviation products. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:56 AM PST US From: HCRV6@comcast.net Subject: RV-List: Looking for Dann Parks If Dann Parks, RV-6A N786DB, is on this list or if any body knows him I would like to talk to him about his tilt up slider canopy as seen at Van's Homecoming this past weekend. It is the neatest design I have seen for this mod. Please contact me off line at HCRV6@comcast.net. Do not archive -- Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 262 hours

If Dann Parks, RV-6A N786DB, is on this list or if any body knows him I would like to talk to him about his tilt up slider canopy as seen at Van's Homecoming this past weekend. It is the neatest design I have seen for this mod. Please contact me off line at HCRV6@comcast.net.

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Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 262 hours

________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:19 PM PST US From: Chuck Subject: Re: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) Aww come on Mark... enquiring minds want to know; What's your opinion ? Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: Howdy Listers- Just to add fuel to the Primer Wars, please take a look here if you are interested in using self-etching primers on your project: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4863 Please reply OFF-LIST if any ?s... From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips - RV-6A "Mojo" 350 hrs since January, '04 --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:22 PM PST US From: Chuck Subject: RV-List: Curious Just curious.... I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. Seeking thoughts & recommendations: 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend the $$$ on girls & surfin' 5. Your suggestions........... Thanks. Chuck --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:56 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) In a message dated 09/08/2006 2:40:28 PM Central Daylight Time, chuck515tigger@yahoo.com writes: What's your opinion ? >>> The 2 cent version? I like flying a lot more than priming! For a nickle, I think that hassling with unresponsive "representatives" of big corporations who apparently couldn't care less about losing a customer (or many!) is a waste of my time when I could be flying... 8-) I'm sticking with the 988 & do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:08 PM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL --> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/06 11:15:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hopperdhh@aol.com writes: > Sorry for changing the subject line. I think that we should keep them > separate! > > After calling customer service and getting nowhere, I posted what I thought > > was a legitimate complaint about ACS a couple of years ago on this list. > Within a day I got a response from Jim Irwin saying that was not how ACS > did > business, and corrected the problem in a very professional manner. I am > glad > that Aircraft Spruce is in business, and I count myself among their many > satisfied customers. Just placed another order a few minutes ago, in fact. > > Dan Hopper > RV-7A ======================== Dan: I am in a $1066 dispute with ACS right now. So far I have been given all the rhetoric that can flow from Jim Irwin's underlings. Today alone I have been put on hold for 28 minutes waiting for a call back since 1800 Z ... The time now is 2200 Z. Dan, would you happen to have Jim Irwin's phone number or direct email? Truly great service is determined not when everything goes smooth but how well they smooth out the bumps. Barry PS I'm sick of hearing Jim talk about ACS as a FAMILY. I would not treat my FAMILY the way ACS treats their customers. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:20 PM PST US From: "Dave Cordner" Subject: RE: RV-List: Looking for Dann Parks google's your friend. Put in his N number got several hits. The one you probably want is on vansairforce.net. Here's what you're looking for I bet: Dann Parks, Parkside Airpark, WA dparks at spiritone.com Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of HCRV6@comcast.net Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:19 PM To: RV-List Subject: RV-List: Looking for Dann Parks If Dann Parks, RV-6A N786DB, is on this list or if any body knows him I would like to talk to him about his tilt up slider canopy as seen at Van's Homecoming this past weekend. It is the neatest design I have seen for this mod. Please contact me off line at HCRV6@comcast.net. Do not archive -- Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 262 hours ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:10 PM PST US From: passpat@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RV6 down in Petaluma NTSB Identification: LAX06LA275 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Sunday, August 27, 2006 in Novato, CA Aircraft: Terry Tevis RV-6A, registration: N312RV Injuries: 2 Fatal. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On August 27, 2006, about 2200 Pacific daylight time, an experimental amateur-built Tevis RV-6A airplane, N312RV, impacted terrain about 2 miles north of the Gnoss Field Airport near Novato, California. The private pilot and passenger sustained fatal injuries. The airplane was substantially damaged. The airplane was built and operated by the pilot under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91 as a personal flight. The flight originated from the Lincoln Regional Airport, Lincoln, California, around 2100, and was destined for Petaluma, California. Dark night conditions prevailed and a flight plan was not filed for the flight. According to the pilot's family, he had flown the airplane from Petaluma to Lincoln earlier in the day. The family took the pilot and passenger to the Lincoln airport around 2030, and they believe they departed around 2100. The pilot's hangar and car were located at Petaluma. According to the Federal Aviation Administrator (FAA) inspector who responded to the accident site, the airplane impacted a hill leaving prop strikes in the ground. The wreckage was scattered along a debris path that stretched approximately 250 feet. -----Original Message----- From: me@parkerthomas.com Sent: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 9:20 PM Subject: RV-List: RV6 down in Petaluma Sad news about a couple guys in a RV-6 up in Petaluma today. Anybody know anything? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/28/BAGR8KQNVS4.DTL Parker Thomas RV-6A 421PT ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:53:18 PM PST US From: "Sportypilot" Subject: Re: RV-List: Curious My vote goes to the girls and surfing.. but they cost alot more than the new fuel pump.. the airplane does what you say... how many women do that ? plus if you have an airplane, maybe you can do all three :) on 2nd thought, get the new duke and getover it.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: RV-List: Curious Just curious.... I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. Seeking thoughts & recommendations: 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend the $$$ on girls & surfin' 5. Your suggestions........... Thanks. Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. --> http://forums.matronics.com http://wiki.matronics.com =========== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:57:36 PM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: For Sale -- RV-7 Posting this message makes my stomach hurt ........................... Due to personal (any male will understand this means "divorce") reasons I a m forced to sell my RV7 kit. The specifics are listed below. I will gladly answer any questions anyone may have (even build questions). I bought this kit a few years ago and hav e almost completed it. While I am required to sell this kit, this is NOT a fire sale. Any real RV'er will quickly realize there is over $60K in part s alone listed with no compensation for build time. A month ago I placed t his kit on a trailer in a secured storage unit located in northern Indiana. I am currently working in Washington DC, but will gladly meet with a SERI OUS buyer to show the plane. Please, if you really want to buy an exceptio nal kit at a reasonable price then fine, contact me. If you just want to l ook at an RV then please go to your local airport. There are many exceptio nal RVs and the owners are all great people who will let you bend their ear . My point is .... please don't waste my time. Interested persons may con tact me directly at the following email: jrlewismail-rv@yahoo.com For now I will not set a price, but will rather solicit reasonable offers. I will know a lot about you by the questions you ask and the offer you sug gest. If your comments are ridiculous then it is unlikely you will succeed in convincing me to fly to Indiana to show you my plane. Sorry, just bein g honest. For the serious RV'ers, please feel free to pass this info to anyone you kn ow who is not on this board but who you think might be interested. Info on my plane: RV-7 w/ slider =93 QB complete with kit parts Build Status: Ready for engine / panel / canopy install Equipment / Accessories: - Fuel tank flop tubes for inverted flight - Strobes - 2 axis Auto-Pilot W/ Vertical Speed Hold & GPS Track (servos installed) - Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS - RMI Monitor - RMI Encoder w/independent compass system - Dynon EFIS - Dual Pitot static systems - Landing light - Taxi Light - Electric Aileron and Elevator Trim - Custom stick grips enable trim, auto-pilot, and nav control - Electric Flaps - EMI Fuel Monitor System - Wingtip comm./nav antennas - Sitting on a custom built 20 ft flatbed trailer - Top aviation grade wiring installed Over $60K invested (not including any build time) - If it looks like I have made a typo then ask.. I will clarify what I have written. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:41 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:09:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, FLYaDIVE@aol.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/06 11:15:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hopperdhh@aol.com writes: > Sorry for changing the subject line. I think that we should keep them > separate! > > After calling customer service and getting nowhere, I posted what I thought > > was a legitimate complaint about ACS a couple of years ago on this list. > Within a day I got a response from Jim Irwin saying that was not how ACS > did > business, and corrected the problem in a very professional manner. I am > glad > that Aircraft Spruce is in business, and I count myself among their many > satisfied customers. Just placed another order a few minutes ago, in fact. > > Dan Hopper > RV-7A ======================== Dan: I am in a $1066 dispute with ACS right now. So far I have been given all the rhetoric that can flow from Jim Irwin's underlings. Today alone I have been put on hold for 28 minutes waiting for a call back since 1800 Z ... The time now is 2200 Z. Dan, would you happen to have Jim Irwin's phone number or direct email? Truly great service is determined not when everything goes smooth but how well they smooth out the bumps. Barry PS I'm sick of hearing Jim talk about ACS as a FAMILY. I would not treat my FAMILY the way ACS treats their customers. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:12 PM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL Barry, Go in to some detail here on the list and I'm sure Jim will get in touch with you and get it settled real soon! No, it has been about 2 years ago. I had the same experience with "customer service." Dan In a message dated 9/8/2006 5:09:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, FLYaDIVE@aol.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/06 11:15:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hopperdhh@aol.com writes: > Sorry for changing the subject line. I think that we should keep them > separate! > > After calling customer service and getting nowhere, I posted what I thought > > was a legitimate complaint about ACS a couple of years ago on this list. > Within a day I got a response from Jim Irwin saying that was not how ACS > did > business, and corrected the problem in a very professional manner. I am > glad > that Aircraft Spruce is in business, and I count myself among their many > satisfied customers. Just placed another order a few minutes ago, in fact. > > Dan Hopper > RV-7A ======================== Dan: I am in a $1066 dispute with ACS right now. So far I have been given all the rhetoric that can flow from Jim Irwin's underlings. Today alone I have been put on hold for 28 minutes waiting for a call back since 1800 Z ... The time now is 2200 Z. Dan, would you happen to have Jim Irwin's phone number or direct email? Truly great service is determined not when everything goes smooth but how well they smooth out the bumps. Barry PS I'm sick of hearing Jim talk about ACS as a FAMILY. I would not treat my FAMILY the way ACS treats their customers. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:27 PM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL --> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 9/8/06 9:04:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Hopperdhh@aol.com writes: > Barry, > > Go in to some detail here on the list and I'm sure Jim will get in touch > with you and get it settled real soon! > > No, it has been about 2 years ago. I had the same experience with " > customer service." > > Dan ========================== Dan: I'm going to wait just a little bit longer and see if the person I talked to will follow through and offer a proper solution. Then if nothing happens I will peruse a different path. I'm only the mechanic on the plane with the problem. I don't want to air dirty laundry for no reason. Bad publicity is hard to correct. Barry ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:44 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: looking for Reno Tix From: russ@wernerworld.com --> RV-List message posted by: russ@wernerworld.com I'm looking for 2 admissions and 2 Reno Chairmans Club tickets for either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Russ