---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/09/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:34 AM - Re: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL (Chuck Jensen) 2. 11:12 AM - Re: Curious (BPA) 3. 01:06 PM - Re: Curious (Bob J.) 4. 04:16 PM - Re: Curious (Chuck) 5. 05:27 PM - Re: Curious (Bob J.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:26 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Aircraft Spruce -- Great Service ... LOL From: "Chuck Jensen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" The difference between dealing with ACS Customer Service and dealing with Jim....Customer Service is hired and trained to 'protect the fort', Jim owns the fort and can dispense favors and blessings as he sees fit. It's actually an efficient and effective setup. If Customer Service acceded to every request and demand (and there are plenty of unreasonable ones out there), ACS might be a bit more highly thought of--but probably broke. By Jim dispensing absolution in metered amounts, the reputation for making things happen accrues to him (which it should--after all, the reputation of a small business is inexorably linked with that of the owner/manager) while he is able to regulate the drain on the company. Whether Irwin did this by design or happenstance, it's obvious he's no dummy....that title is reserved for those of us that decide to build a plane and allot half the time and half the money that it's really going to take. Thanks, Chuck Jensen Do Not Archive >FLYaDIVE@aol.com writes: > > > Barry, > > > > Go in to some detail here on the list and I'm sure Jim will get in > > touch > > with you and get it settled real soon! > > > > No, it has been about 2 years ago. I had the same > experience with " > > customer service." > > > > Dan > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Curious From: "BPA" The Airflow Performance boost pump is around 500.00 bucks. Lighweight, simple in design and works. Everybody I know has problems with Duke pumps and end up chucking them in the trash. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sportypilot Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Curious My vote goes to the girls and surfing.. but they cost alot more than the new fuel pump.. the airplane does what you say... how many women do that ? plus if you have an airplane, maybe you can do all three :) on 2nd thought, get the new duke and getover it.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: RV-List: Curious Just curious.... I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. Seeking thoughts & recommendations: 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend the $$$ on girls & surfin' 5. Your suggestions........... Thanks. Chuck ________________________________ Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. the Web --> =========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:07 PM PST US From: "Bob J." Subject: Re: RV-List: Curious A friend of mine rebuilt his Dukes pump, and I got to look at the innards when he had it apart. They're pretty simple inside, its just a vane pump with a check valve/bypass. The vanes were made of teflon IIRC. I think he paid $160 for the rebuild kit. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On 9/8/06, Chuck wrote: > > Just curious.... > > I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel > pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump > (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 > plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I > got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too > and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. > > Seeking thoughts & recommendations: > > 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. > 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a > spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). > 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... > 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend the > $$$ on girls & surfin' > 5. Your suggestions........... > > Thanks. > > Chuck > > ------------------------------ > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:22 PM PST US From: Chuck Subject: Re: RV-List: Curious Bob, Thanks for telling me that. Can you get the contact info for the rebuild kit. So far my research has yielded negative results. I was afraid Duke's parts were somehow proprietary and classified next to unobtainium on the Elements chart. I will crack her seals tomorrow morning and report back. Like what's his name said "... why not open her up, you've got nothing to lose." You know, ocassionally I do enjoy this list for actual RV related stuff (not just to laugh my a$$ off at ALL the pissin' & moanin' & flame wars :-) Chuck "Bob J." wrote: A friend of mine rebuilt his Dukes pump, and I got to look at the innards when he had it apart. They're pretty simple inside, its just a vane pump with a check valve/bypass. The vanes were made of teflon IIRC. I think he paid $160 for the rebuild kit. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On 9/8/06, Chuck < chuck515tigger@yahoo.com > wrote: Just curious.... I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. Seeking thoughts & recommendations: 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend the $$$ on girls & surfin' 5. Your suggestions........... Thanks. Chuck --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:31 PM PST US From: "Bob J." Subject: Re: RV-List: Curious If I had to guess it sounds like a check valve seal. They'll sell you the individual seals, according to my buddy. http://www.dukesinc.com/contact.html Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const On 9/9/06, Chuck wrote: > > Bob, > > Thanks for telling me that. Can you get the contact info for the rebuild > kit. So far my research has yielded negative results. I was afraid > Duke's parts were somehow proprietary and classified next to unobtainium on > the Elements chart. > > I will crack her seals tomorrow morning and report back. Like what's his > name said "... why not open her up, you've got nothing to lose." You > know, ocassionally I do enjoy this list for actual RV related stuff (not > just to laugh my a$$ off at ALL the pissin' & moanin' & flame wars :-) > > Chuck > > > *"Bob J." * wrote: > > A friend of mine rebuilt his Dukes pump, and I got to look at the innards > when he had it apart. They're pretty simple inside, its just a vane pump > with a check valve/bypass. The vanes were made of teflon IIRC. I think he > paid $160 for the rebuild kit. > > Regards, > Bob Japundza > RV-6 flying F1 under const. > > On 9/8/06, Chuck < chuck515tigger@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > > Just curious.... > > > > I'm running an IO-320 (Ly-con) with Bendix injections, mechanical fuel > > pump and an electric "Dukes Inc." boost-pump. The Duke takes a dump > > (spins but won't pressure up). I find out the replacement Duke is $600 > > plus core, shipping and tax ($900 area). I went with the Duke because I > > got it in trade; I use to use Performance Air (?) but their price sucks too > > and I hated the added weight & complexity of their recommended fuel filter. > > > > Seeking thoughts & recommendations: > > > > 1. Cough-up the bucks and get the replacement Duke. > > 2. Crack-open the Duke's seals ans see if I can repair (might be just a > > spun nut/cotter-key/or sumpin' like the nylatron pump vane). > > 3. Skip the boost pump 'cuz I never use it anyway... > > 4. Forget this ever increasin' overly-expensive flyin' sh!t and spend > > the $$$ on girls & surfin' > > 5. Your suggestions........... > > > > Thanks. > > > > Chuck > > ------------------------------ > > * > > >