---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/15/06: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:02 AM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 2. 04:35 AM - Re: T-3A Firefly Aircraft Destroyed (Dana Overall) 3. 06:35 AM - Re: Denver area RV'rs (Ron Lee) 4. 06:57 AM - Re: Denver area RV'rs (Phil Birkelbach) 5. 07:15 AM - Re: Denver area RV'rs (Dave Johnson) 6. 09:25 AM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (linn Walters) 7. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Denver area RV'rs (Ron Lee) 8. 11:37 AM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (smitty@smittysrv.com) 9. 11:37 AM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? () 10. 12:35 PM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (John Porter) 11. 12:40 PM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (linn Walters) 12. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Iridite Wanted to Buy (Doug Gray) 13. 03:52 PM - Re: Did you paint your own airplane? (Kyle Boatright) 14. 05:20 PM - Re: Denver area RV'rs (John Loretz) 15. 05:30 PM - aerobatics and constant speed prop (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 16. 05:32 PM - Re: Denver area RV'rs (Denis Walsh) 17. 06:37 PM - Re: aerobatics and constant speed prop (Dan Checkoway) 18. 07:14 PM - Using Alodine on an assembled aircraft was Re: Re: Iridite Wanted to Buy (Charlie Kuss) 19. 07:33 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps (Charlie Kuss) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:15 AM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: Did you paint your own airplane? Thanks for reminding me why I won't personally paint mine and when the time comes will happily write that check to a pro! :-) They fly great unpainted. It's hangared. I suppose it'll get painted when I stop smiling every time I look at it and I'm glad I was flying instead of painting these past 6 months. Question I do have is what's the short/long term affects on the fiberglass parts that aren't painted? I have some primer on some fiberglass parts but not all of them. Spinner comes to mind as something that's not primed at the moment. -------------- Original message -------------- From: JhnstnIII@aol.com I will chime in. I painted our RV-6 at my house. I believe it took about six months of steady night and weekend work plus some vacation days. People tell me it looks very good and I think so, too. Paint was Dupont Imron over Variprime, three colors. Surface was etched but not alodined. It was a big and difficult job, but then nothing about these projects is easy in my opinion. This was my first airplane. I would do it again Talk to painters with experience first. They will have many good tips. I painted parts in a room in my house and later in the garage when the weather got warm. In both places we rigged a powerful squirrel cage fan (from a buddy--it was like what is in your furnace) to exhaust the fumes to the outside. We built a wooden exhaust plenum with three round outlets to split the exhaust into three flexible 6 inch dia. ducts about eight feet long that lay on the ground spread apart with bricks in them to hold them down. The idea was to diffuse the exhaust so as not to paint the outside of the house. For the inlet to the room/garage, we built a plywood door panel with two large furnace filters in it and a latch mechanism to alow ingress and egress. In a separate room away from the fumes we had a Hobbyair respirator and the hose went through a hole in the wall to the paint room. When painting I wore a Tyvek paint suit, painter's stretchy hood (like a balaclava) and gloves plus the respirator mask. I always had fresh air flowing into the mask and could not smell the paint. My understanding was this paint will kill you and you should take no chances on fumes. We have a large air compressor. We bought a $400 system that goes in the line to dry the air, remove all oil drops, and remove all debris. The cannister with silica that dries the air lasted the whole job without needing to be replaced. I used a Devilbiss HVLP gun. We filled all the rivets, not to go faster (unlikely), but to make the paint easier to flow out. This is a lot of work but it sure is pretty later and it is easier to paint especially on the unavoidable vertical surfaces like the fuselage sides. Still looking for a filler that goes on easy, sands easy, and is smooth. We tried various. Because we essentially sanded it all off, weight gain was negligible. I'm remembering now what a pain the filling of pinholes in the fiberglass parts was. I hate them pinholes. Not sure what a professional painter would do about them. I'm not sure of our exact costs. I'm guessing paint, equipment, endless paper towels and gloves, sandpaper, etc, probably came to $3,000. I did a lot of things over as I learned, Imron can be sanded and I did plenty of that. The difficult part is the art of paint application--too little and you have orange peel, too much and it runs. The distance between the two is narrow. Here's the thing. When it's over, you forget the misery and the time. You fly and you're happy. LeRoy Johnston and David White in Ohio. RV-6 Esperanza--flying.
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From: JhnstnIII@aol.com
I will chime in. I painted our RV-6 at my house. I believe it took about six months of steady night and weekend work plus some vacation days. People tell me it looks very good and I think so, too. Paint was Dupont Imron over Variprime, three colors. Surface was etched but not alodined.It was a big and difficult job, but then nothing about these projects is easy in my opinion. This was my first airplane. I would do it againTalk to painters with experience first. They will have many good tips.I painted parts in a room in my house and later in the garage when the weather got warm. In both places we rigged a powerful squirrel cage fan (from a buddy--it was like what is in your furnace) to exhaust the fumes to the outside. We built a wooden exhaust plenum with three round outlets to split the exhaust into three flexible 6 inch dia. ducts about eight feet long that lay on the ground spread apart with bricks in them to hold them down. The idea was to diffuse the exhaust so as not to paint the outside of the house. For the inlet to the room/garage, we built a plywood door panel with two large furnace filters in it and a latch mechanism to alow ingress and egress.In a separate room away from the fumes we had a Hobbyair respirator and the hose went through a hole in the wall to the paint room.When painting I wore a Tyvek paint suit, painter's stretchy hood (like a balaclava) and gloves plus the respirator mask. I always had fresh air flowing into the mask and could not smell the paint. My understanding was this paint will kill you and you should take no chances on fumes.We have a large air compressor. We bought a $400 system that goes in the line to dry the air, remove all oil drops, and remove all debris. The cannister with silica that dries the air lasted the whole job without needing to be replaced. I used a Devilbiss HVLP gun.We filled all the rivets, not to go faster (unlikely), but to make the paint easier to flow out. This is a lot of work but it sure is pretty later and it is easier to paint especially on the unavoidable vertical surfaces like the fuselage sides. Still looking for a filler that goes on easy, sands easy, and is smooth. We tried various. Because we essentially sanded it all off, weight gain was negligible.I'm remembering now what a pain the filling of pinholes in the fiberglass parts was. I hate them pinholes. Not sure what a professional painter would do about them.I'm not sure of our exact costs. I'm guessing paint, equipment, endless paper towels and gloves, sandpaper, etc, probably came to $3,000. I did a lot of things over as I learned, Imron can be sanded and I did plenty of that.The difficult part is the art of paint application--too little and you have orange peel, too much and it runs. The distance between the two is narrow.Here's the thing. When it's over, you forget the misery and the time. You fly and you're happy.LeRoy Johnston and David White in Ohio. RV-6 Esperanza--flying.
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