RV-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/20/06


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:40 AM - Re: EGT Probe position (Doug Gray)
     2. 03:14 AM - Re: Transponder (Charles Reiche)
     3. 05:45 AM - Re: xPanel feedback (Larry Rosen)
     4. 08:25 AM - Re: Superior Engine Discount (John Furey)
     5. 09:33 AM - Switched power (Dennis Jones)
     6. 09:40 AM - Re: Transponder (Dennis Jones)
     7. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Transponder (Charles Reiche)
     8. 07:36 PM - Re: Switched power (Charles Reiche)
     9. 08:28 PM - Approach FastStack (dmaib@mac.com)
    10. 10:29 PM - Wing cracks (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:27 AM PST US
    Subject: EGT Probe position
    From: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au> Hey, folks... Why go off list? I am soon to install engine and would like to see representative photos. Doug Gray On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 21:47 -0400, Dana Overall wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> > > Thanks gang, got lots of emails off list with pics and some showed exactly > what I needed. > > As always..........great gang, Thanks. > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip > > > > >


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    Time: 03:14:28 AM PST US
    From: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Transponder
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net> Apply a ground to this pin to have the encoder output on all the time. This is required to be on all the time with every modern transponder. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:46 AM Subject: RV-List: Transponder > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> > > What is a strobe input/output for a transponder/encoder? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62693#62693 > > >


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    Time: 05:45:12 AM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: xPanel feedback
    --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> I have been using xPanel and I like it. In my opinion it is much better than the online versions since you can easily add instruments that it does not have in the data base. Also you get side and top views. It is a good product for laying out panel design concepts. However, there is no measuring tool or easy way to move instruments into an exact location. You would need to use some other tool to actually cut the panel. They do have a free web based product. You can try XPanel 5000 in trial mode to see if you like it. XPanel software is here <http://www.xpanelsoftware.com/Index.htm> Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 N205EN (reserved) Larry E. James wrote: > Is there any more feedback on xPanel ?? Is this a viable product to > design an instrument panel in ?? > > Larry E. James > Bellevue, WA > Super Decathlon > HR2 - under construction - fuselage > > >


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    Time: 08:25:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
    Subject: Superior Engine Discount
    --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com> I spoke to Superior at the RENO air races this weekend and was surprised to find that they reduced their price several thousand dollars AND have a special this month of $500 off and free shipping if delivered before 12-31-06. I Originally planned on a TMX but I will have to look at all the options now. John Furey RV7


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    Time: 09:33:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Switched power
    From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> For the encoder I plan on using a seperate fuse to the POWER IN pin (8) supplied from the a/c power to reduce warm up time and then use pin (14) SWITCHED POWER IN as indicated by the schematic for the switched power back to the transponder. Now for the question. The transponder schematic shows two pins together (8,20) used for SWITCHED POWER OUT. Do both of these get wired to the switched pin number 14 or bacause I'm powering the encoder pin 8 with its own power is one of these pins left empty? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62786#62786


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    Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Transponder
    From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> The transponder schematic shows a suppression OUT pin 1and a EXT. DME suppression IN pin 6. Because I do not have a DME I understand that both of these pins would be empty. Would this be what the encoder schematic is showing as the strobe input? If so then this pin would not be used and would be pigtailed to the fround pin. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62788#62788


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    Time: 07:29:19 PM PST US
    From: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Transponder
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net> Dennis, What Transponder and what encoder are you using? Supression I/O is only used for other L band devices like active traffic (tcas) and DME.... They all work around 1030-1090 MHZ and the suppression lines are only used so only one device is active for a split second. Strobe input at the encoder should be tied to ground, I run my gray code wires A1, A2, A4, B1...etc and power and ground to the encoder. some transponders supply switched power out to simplify the wiring to the encoder. If your transponder has switched power out, thats what I would use to power the encoder. It does not need its own circuit breaker in general. I would supply ground to the endcoder by splitting the ground to the transponder (at the transponder rack) and sending one leg to the encoder. Then I would take that ground and split it into two at the encoder, one hooked to the ground pin and the other hooked to the strobe pin. Like I said before, most all transponders want to see the Gray Code (altitude) input at all times, and the strobe pin being tied to ground means that the encoder will always be sending out gray code info. If Im too confusing or you need more info just let me know. Charlie your avionics guru. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: RV-List: Re: Transponder > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> > > The transponder schematic shows a suppression OUT pin 1and a EXT. DME > suppression IN pin 6. Because I do not have a DME I understand that both > of these pins would be empty. Would this be what the encoder schematic is > showing as the strobe input? If so then this pin would not be used and > would be pigtailed to the fround pin. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62788#62788 > > >


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    Time: 07:36:11 PM PST US
    From: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Switched power
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net> Dennis, If you are powering your encoder right from a fuse from the bus (to reduce warm up time) the switched power pin out of the transponder will be left empty. 8 and 14 are tied together on multi voltage encoders.... the old convention was 28 volts on pin 8 and 14 on pin 14.... Run your fused encoder power to pin 14 and leave pin 8 empty, run no other power wires from the transponder swithced power. I just read this message after i sent the previous. I still want to know exactly shich encoder and transponder you are using. I could draw you up a schematic and fax it to you. Let me know. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: RV-List: Switched power > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> > > For the encoder I plan on using a seperate fuse to the POWER IN pin (8) > supplied from the a/c power to reduce warm up time and then use pin (14) > SWITCHED POWER IN as indicated by the schematic for the switched power > back to the transponder. Now for the question. The transponder schematic > shows two pins together (8,20) used for SWITCHED POWER OUT. Do both of > these get wired to the switched pin number 14 or bacause I'm powering the > encoder pin 8 with its own power is one of these pins left empty? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62786#62786 > > >


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    Time: 08:28:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Approach FastStack
    From: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com> Looking for information from anybody who has used Approach FastStack for avionics and panel wiring. David Maib RV-10 40559 Tailcone -------- David Maib Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62924#62924


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    Time: 10:29:30 PM PST US
    From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
    Subject: Wing cracks
    --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net> Several years ago Gary Hansen had a crack propagate along the inboard top wing skin along his rear spar. By the time he discovered the problem it had propagated along several aft spar to skin rivets (paint hid some of the problem for a while). Only solution was to remove the wing and replace the entire inboard skin. This is not an easy or fun job on the RV-6A as the wing cannot be removed without removing the main gear mounts, you RV-7/8/9 guys have it sooooo easy. I think the problem is more common than we hear about, guys who have cracks in benign areas just stop drill them and don't give it a second thought! Unfortunately Gary and his RV are no longer with us so I can't ask him what he believed caused the problem. Dean Psiropoulos RV-6A N197DM Working on the last of the wiring. __________________________Original Message_______________________________ Subject: Re: RV-List: Wing skin crack --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> ...........This is the first report I can recall of a crack in any of the wing skins. I think there was something unique about this situation....




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