RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/21/06


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:45 AM - Re: Approach FastStack (Dana Overall)
     2. 07:20 AM - Re: Wing skin crack (Jim Peoples)
     3. 08:39 AM - RV Kit Wanted (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     4. 08:43 AM - Re: Wing skin crack (John Jessen)
     5. 11:11 AM - Re: RV Kit Wanted (Steve Dwyer)
     6. 11:50 AM - Re: RV Kit Wanted (John Jessen)
     7. 01:52 PM - Re: RV Kit Wanted (Scott Kuebler)
     8. 02:33 PM - EGT Span (Steve Glasgow)
     9. 02:47 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (John Jessen)
    10. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Transponder (djones@northboone.net)
    11. 03:15 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (John Jessen)
    12. 04:04 PM - Re: EGT Span (Ed Holyoke)
    13. 04:44 PM - Pitot Hunt (Chuck Jensen)
    14. 05:01 PM - Re: Pitot Hunt (Bruce Gray)
    15. 06:57 PM - RV-8A For Sale (Becki)
    16. 08:50 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
    17. 08:53 PM - Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:45:55 AM PST US
    From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Approach FastStack
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com> I know this does not answer your question but my experience points towards Steinair for your harness and John Stark Avionics for your avionics. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html do not archive >From: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com> >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Approach FastStack >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:26:52 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com> > >Looking for information from anybody who has used Approach FastStack for >avionics and panel wiring. > > >David Maib >RV-10 40559 >Tailcone > >-------- >David Maib > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62924#62924 > > _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip


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    Time: 07:20:36 AM PST US
    From: Jim Peoples <jp_rv2001@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Wing skin crack
    Search the archives on 'match drill' and you will find there have been several lengthy discussions about this (March '04 and April '02, etc.)... in my mind there is a connection, in the mind of others there may not be. I will use my judgement, you will use yours... Perhaps this is why i am committed to building my own RV rather than buying one from somebody else. jp ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:39:46 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: RV Kit Wanted
    Hello RV Thread, anyone know of a RV 4 thru 9 kit that might be for sale? Less completed the better and only in the lower 48. With or without engine. Please respond off thread, Thanks, Bill Phillips


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    Time: 08:43:36 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Wing skin crack
    I've matched drilled and deburred and dimpled and I still don't see a smoothness around the hole. I often see little nibbles or some such thing. Not cracks, but it does make me wonder if I'm doing things correctly. Should be smooth, should it not? John Jessen #40328 _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Peoples Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Wing skin crack Search the archives on 'match drill' and you will find there have been several lengthy discussions about this (March '04 and April '02, etc.)... in my mind there is a connection, in the mind of others there may not be. I will use my judgement, you will use yours... Perhaps this is why i am committed to building my own RV rather than buying one from somebody else. jp


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    Time: 11:11:00 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Dwyer" <steve@cleanbrite.com>
    Subject: Re: RV Kit Wanted
    Bill, We have a RV-6 tail and wing kit available with very little completed. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: RV-List: RV Kit Wanted Hello RV Thread, anyone know of a RV 4 thru 9 kit that might be for sale? Less completed the better and only in the lower 48. With or without engine. Please respond off thread, Thanks, Bill Phillips


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    Time: 11:50:44 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: RV Kit Wanted
    I have a RV-7 empennage kit, as well, with very little completed. I'm sure there are lots out there. I switched to a -10. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dwyer Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV Kit Wanted Bill, We have a RV-6 tail and wing kit available with very little completed. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: RV-List: RV Kit Wanted Hello RV Thread, anyone know of a RV 4 thru 9 kit that might be for sale? Less completed the better and only in the lower 48. With or without engine. Please respond off thread, Thanks, Bill Phillips com/Navigator?RV-List


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    Time: 01:52:55 PM PST US
    From: Scott Kuebler <scottkuebler@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV Kit Wanted
    Bill, See my message that I posted a few weeks ago, below: RV-6 / 6a kit for sale. Empennage: Complete except for fiberglass tips. Includes electric elevator trim kit. All parts are alodined and primed with Marhyde primer. Wings & Phlogiston Spar: Main wings are complete, bottom skins ready for final riveting. Both tanks are complete and sealed. Flaps and ailerons complete, but not installed. Includes electric aileron trim kit. All parts are alodined and primed with Deft epoxy primer (Mil-P-23377G). Both kits are the pre-punched versions purchased in 1997 & 1998 by myself. Construction is excellent. Preview plans and Orndorff videos are included for both kits. Price: $3900 If all items were purchased separately the price would be more than $6500 for unassembled kits. Scott Kuebler Buffalo , NY 716-695-1987 home 716-510-0318 cell scottkuebler@yahoo.com JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: Hello RV Thread, anyone know of a RV 4 thru 9 kit that might be for sale? Less completed the better and only in the lower 48. With or without engine. Please respond off thread, Thanks, Bill Phillips --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.


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    Time: 02:33:37 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: EGT Span
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com> I have my EIS system set to 150 Max EGT Span. Sometimes at high power settings the warning light comes on indicating a span of greater than 150 F. When I look at the actual EGTs the span is between #1 and #4 cylinders and is sometimes as great as 170. A reduction in power extinguishes the warning light. Shortly there after, all EGTs are closer together and run somewhere between 50 25 of each other. At cruise and leaned out sometimes they are within 15 of each other. Is it normal for a 0-360 carburated engine to have more than 150 Span at high power settings? I have tightened the rubber intake connectors and changed plugs. Is it possible to have a sticking valve? Should I do a compression check? If this is normal, what is the highest span recommended? Thanks for any input you may have. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 360 Hours


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    Time: 02:47:15 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update)
    Mark, I used two pictures off your web site and stuck them into a page on mine. Let me know if you object and I'll take them out. My best, John Jessen http://www.soundingsresearch.com/RV-10/Thoughts/Thoughts.htm _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:41 AM Subject: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) Howdy Listers- Just to add fuel to the Primer Wars, please take a look here if you are interested in using self-etching primers on your project: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry <http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4863> &log_id=4863 Please reply OFF-LIST if any ?s... >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips - RV-6A "Mojo" 350 hrs since January, '04


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    Time: 03:06:51 PM PST US
    From: djones@northboone.net
    Subject: Re: Transponder
    --> RV-List message posted by: djones@northboone.net Charles On the transponder the schematic shows two remote ground pins. What would they be used for? Dennis Quoting Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net>: > --> RV-List message posted by: Charles Reiche <charlieray@optonline.net> > > Dennis, > > > What Transponder and what encoder are you using? Supression I/O is > only used for other L band devices like active traffic (tcas) and > DME.... They all work around 1030-1090 MHZ and the suppression lines > are only used so only one device is active for a split second. > > Strobe input at the encoder should be tied to ground, I run my gray > code wires A1, A2, A4, B1...etc and power and ground to the encoder. > some transponders supply switched power out to simplify the wiring to > the encoder. If your transponder has switched power out, thats what > I would use to power the encoder. It does not need its own circuit > breaker in general. I would supply ground to the endcoder by > splitting the ground to the transponder (at the transponder rack) and > sending one leg to the encoder. Then I would take that ground and > split it into two at the encoder, one hooked to the ground pin and > the other hooked to the strobe pin. Like I said before, most all > transponders want to see the Gray Code (altitude) input at all times, > and the strobe pin being tied to ground means that the encoder will > always be sending out gray code info. > > If Im too confusing or you need more info just let me know. > > Charlie > your avionics guru. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:40 PM > Subject: RV-List: Re: Transponder > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Jones" <djones@northboone.net> >> >> The transponder schematic shows a suppression OUT pin 1and a EXT. >> DME suppression IN pin 6. Because I do not have a DME I understand >> that both of these pins would be empty. Would this be what the >> encoder schematic is showing as the strobe input? If so then this >> pin would not be used and would be pigtailed to the fround pin. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62788#62788 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 03:15:44 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update)
    Sorry folks, that last one was supposed to be to Mark offline. do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) Mark, I used two pictures off your web site and stuck them into a page on mine. Let me know if you object and I'll take them out. My best, John Jessen http://www.soundingsresearch.com/RV-10/Thoughts/Thoughts.htm _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:41 AM Subject: RV-List: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update) Howdy Listers- Just to add fuel to the Primer Wars, please take a look here if you are interested in using self-etching primers on your project: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry <http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4863> &log_id=4863 Please reply OFF-LIST if any ?s... >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips - RV-6A "Mojo" 350 hrs since January, '04 com/Navigator?RV-List


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    Time: 04:04:46 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
    Subject: EGT Span
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net> Steve, Carbureted Lycomings have lousy fuel/air distribution and the EGTs are gonna be all over the place. I've found that pulling off about a tenth of an inch of manifold pressure helps even out the fuel distribution and brings the EGTs closer together on our O-320. The slightly deflected throttle causes turbulence and better mixing. You can experiment with a touch of carb heat too which has a similar effect. If you use carb heat, you may need to re-lean a little to account for the extra richness. All that said, the EGT spread doesn't mean too much. Absolute EGT values aren't very important and could be off because of probe errors anyway. What you really want to watch for is changes in temperatures from the normal way it runs that might tell you something has happened. A rise in EGT in one cylinder might mean a fouled plug or a bad valve. A rise in all of them could be a bad mag. If your 170 degree spread is normal for your engine, you could always set the alarm for 180 and quit worrying or just keep punching the acknowledge button when the alarm goes off. Pax, Ed Holyoke -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: RV-List: EGT Span --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com> I have my EIS system set to 150 Max EGT Span. Sometimes at high power settings the warning light comes on indicating a span of greater than 150 F. When I look at the actual EGTs the span is between #1 and #4 cylinders and is sometimes as great as 170. A reduction in power extinguishes the warning light. Shortly there after, all EGTs are closer together and run somewhere between 50 25 of each other. At cruise and leaned out sometimes they are within 15 of each other. Is it normal for a 0-360 carburated engine to have more than 150 Span at high power settings? I have tightened the rubber intake connectors and changed plugs. Is it possible to have a sticking valve? Should I do a compression check? If this is normal, what is the highest span recommended? Thanks for any input you may have. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 360 Hours


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    Time: 04:44:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Pitot Hunt
    From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> I'm looking for a 12v heated pitot that fits on the pointy-nose of an airplane....not a right angle type. Just a straight bayonet that mounts in the nose. I know they make 'em because I have one that's only about 3 years old (but now inoperable for reasons I'll not go into). I checked AS&S, Wicks and the usual suspects, but they don't seem to have what I'm looking for--all right angle jobs. Any leads or ideas? Chuck Jensen


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    Time: 05:01:21 PM PST US
    From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
    Subject: Pitot Hunt
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org> Try Ebay. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: RV-List: Pitot Hunt --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> I'm looking for a 12v heated pitot that fits on the pointy-nose of an airplane....not a right angle type. Just a straight bayonet that mounts in the nose. I know they make 'em because I have one that's only about 3 years old (but now inoperable for reasons I'll not go into). I checked AS&S, Wicks and the usual suspects, but they don't seem to have what I'm looking for--all right angle jobs. Any leads or ideas? Chuck Jensen


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    Time: 06:57:31 PM PST US
    From: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
    Subject: RV-8A For Sale
    A friend has asked us to sell his RV-8A for him. It was built in our shop and is a beautiful plane. Here's a link to more information and photos: www.fly-gbi.com/RV-8Aforsale.htm Please give us a call if you are interested. Thanks! Becki Orndorff (940) 648-0841


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    Time: 08:50:48 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update)
    No problem- we're here to share! Just hope nobody chokes on seeing my mugly ug- you DID happen to grab the "trick foto". Didja notice the reflection on the belly? (the one on the AIRPLANE, not under the bibs!) 8-) Another lister with long experience in the auto coatings business chimed in off-list that he really likes one I didn't test- DuPont 4115s, which comes in gray and green and is available at from any automotive paint shop that carries DuPont Auto Refinish products- he says he's familiar with most of these products and this is his favorite self-etch... (thanks, Bill!) >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark archive for the DuPont info, and dare I add "primer"? <g>


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    Time: 08:53:23 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Man I hate to do this... (Marhyde update)
    No problem, John- good way to get out the DuPont info and a reminder I need to update the website as time permits! Mark do not archive




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