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1. 05:11 AM - Re: aircraftpaintschemes.com (Tim Bryan)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: aircraftpaintschemes.com (linn Walters)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: home paint booth ventilation (Richard Dudley)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Timing Lightspeed (N122RL@aol.com)
5. 07:32 AM - Re: Timing Lightspeed (Ron Lee)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: Timing Lightspeed (N122RL@aol.com)
7. 09:02 AM - Re: Timing Lightspeed (John Huft)
8. 04:23 PM - Re: aircraftpaintschemes.com (sportypilot)
9. 05:59 PM - Re: home paint booth ventilation (Dale Ensing)
10. 06:12 PM - Re: home paint booth ventilation (linn Walters)
11. 07:00 PM - Re: home paint booth ventilation (Sherman Butler)
12. 11:49 PM - Re: FAA seat belt requirement (RV6 Flyer)
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| Subject: | aircraftpaintschemes.com |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
Danny,
Are you confusing this with SchemeDesigners.com? I used them and it did
cost a lot more but for a custom design based on my input.
Aircraftpaintschemes.com appears to be existing designs you can pick from.
Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportypilot
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
>
> It will cost alot more than 39.00 more like 500.00 I think to start..
>
> Danny..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:55 PM
> Subject: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
>
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> > --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
> >
> > Has any one found aircraftpaintschemes.com to be useful? Is it worth
> > the $39 fee?
> > --
> > Tom Sargent, RV-6A
> >
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| Subject: | Re: aircraftpaintschemes.com |
My solution on four airplanes was to get a 3-view drawing into a paint
program and have at it. A good paint program will allow you to roughly
add curves and it'll smooth them out. One guy wanted a pattern on the
belly so I just copied the plan view, removed all the excess lines
(mostly cockpit and windshield etc.) and used that. You'll probably
have 64 colors to choose from. It's really that simple. And you don't
have to worry about the charges piling up as you make changes and make
changes ........
Best of luck!
Linn
Tim Bryan wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
>
>Danny,
>
>Are you confusing this with SchemeDesigners.com? I used them and it did
>cost a lot more but for a custom design based on my input.
>Aircraftpaintschemes.com appears to be existing designs you can pick from.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
>>server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportypilot
>>Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
>>
>>It will cost alot more than 39.00 more like 500.00 I think to start..
>>
>>Danny..
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net>
>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:55 PM
>>Subject: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
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>>>--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
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>>>Has any one found aircraftpaintschemes.com to be useful? Is it worth
>>>the $39 fee?
>>>--
>>>Tom Sargent, RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: home paint booth ventilation |
Tom,
FWIW
[second attempt: first attempt one photo was too large for the system
and was rejected]
I, too, built a 2x2 covered with plastic paint booth in one-half of my
2-car garage. Though I did a seat-of-the-pants design and did not have
CFM ratings of my fans, I used 7 $10 box fans and furnace filters at
both input and output. The input filters to reduce dust and output
filters to avoid painting the neighbor's cars. To get positive pressure,
I used 4 input fans at the rear and 3 output at the front. At the
output, I used doubled furnace filters which required changing several
times. I am attaching a photo of the input end before completing the booth.
I consider that the booth was a success because the paint job turned out
well with no signs of particles in the paint, no paint on the neighbor's
cars and no real sign of paint exiting the output filters. Any flaws in
the paint were due to operator incompetence rather than inadequate air
flow.
I've addressed this directly to you as well as to RV-list because I'm
not sure if attachments are being filtered out now. I've also attached
a picture of the finished plane.
Good luck!!!
Regards,
Richard Dudley
-6A flying
sarg314 wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I am contemplating making the typical homebuilder's paint booth (2x2
> frame covered with plastic). I've read Ron Alexander's book and seen
> sam james video. No one seems to specify a CFM rating for the vent
> fan. The total volume of the booth in its largest configuration will
> be about 1300 cu ft. (it will taper towards the back because of space
> constraints). I note that the commonly available attic vent fan
> (that's something homes often have here in the arizona desert) is
> about 1350cfm for about $50. That would turn over the air
> once/minute. Actually it would probably be about half that in the
> real world. Is that adequate, or is a larger gale necessary?
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Timing Lightspeed |
I have had a plasma lll system on my RV6A Lyc. 0320 for two years now. I
have set the timing on both the mag., which is on the left and plasma on the
right. with a strobe light. the system has worked great. But I have had one
problem with the engine since I installed the plasma III. The CHT runs quite a
bit higher when running on both mag & plasma system. Before I installed the
plasma my CHTs would never get over 400 in a climb, now if I run with both on,
my CHTs will go well over 425. By switching off the mag. and using only the
plasma the CHTs stay well below 400. Does anyone else have this happen?
Bob
RV6A 850 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Timing Lightspeed |
At 07:29 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote:
>I have had a plasma lll system on my RV6A Lyc. 0320 for two years now. I
>have set the timing on both the mag., which is on the left and plasma on
>the right. with a strobe light. the system has worked great. But I have
>had one problem with the engine since I installed the plasma III. The CHT
>runs quite a bit higher when running on both mag & plasma system. Before I
>installed the plasma my CHTs would never get over 400 in a climb, now if I
>run with both on, my CHTs will go well over 425. By switching off the mag.
>and using only the plasma the CHTs stay well below 400. Does anyone else
>have this happen?
>
>Bob
>RV6A 850 hrs
That is to be expected. The EI burns mo better so the CHT goes up.
Increase the cowl exit area so you get better cooling.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Timing Lightspeed |
Well that seems to make very good since, but the CHTs go down when I run
with EI only.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Timing Lightspeed |
When you run on only one spark plug, it slows the rate of burning,
having the same effect as retarding the timing. This causes the CHT to
be lower, and the EGT to be higher (the latter because some of the fuel
is still burning when the exhaust valve opens).
You should see approximately the same effect if you run on either one,
especially at lower altitudes (before the Lightspeed unit starts
advancing the timing). If not, you should check the timing on both.
When you have dual Lightspeeds, they are connected together. If one
fails, or is switched off, the other will advance the timing to
compensate for the change in the rate of burn.
You can get the same effect by changing the timing on both. That is, if
the timing is over advanced (you haven't given us all the parameters of
your engine and settings), if you retard both, your CHTs will run a
little cooler, and your EGTs a little higher.
John
N122RL@aol.com wrote:
> I have had a plasma lll system on my RV6A Lyc. 0320 for two years now.
> I have set the timing on both the mag., which is on the left and
> plasma on the right. with a strobe light. the system has worked great.
> But I have had one problem with the engine since I installed the
> plasma III. The CHT runs quite a bit higher when running on both mag &
> plasma system. Before I installed the plasma my CHTs would never get
> over 400 in a climb, now if I run with both on, my CHTs will go well
> over 425. By switching off the mag. and using only the plasma the CHTs
> stay well below 400. Does anyone else have this happen?
>
> Bob
> RV6A 850 hrs
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: aircraftpaintschemes.com |
--> RV-List message posted by: "sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
My mistake.. I think your correct..
I was working on a custom design..
Danny..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
>
> Danny,
>
> Are you confusing this with SchemeDesigners.com? I used them and it did
> cost a lot more but for a custom design based on my input.
> Aircraftpaintschemes.com appears to be existing designs you can pick from.
>
> Tim
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
>> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportypilot
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
>>
>> It will cost alot more than 39.00 more like 500.00 I think to start..
>>
>> Danny..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net>
>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:55 PM
>> Subject: RV-List: aircraftpaintschemes.com
>>
>>
>> > --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>> >
>> > Has any one found aircraftpaintschemes.com to be useful? Is it worth
>> > the $39 fee?
>> > --
>> > Tom Sargent, RV-6A
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: home paint booth ventilation |
Tom and others getting ready to paint.On a related painting
issue...........I was told by another experienced builder/painter not to
use plastic to cover a temporary paint booth but to use house wrap, like
Tyvik, (sp) as it does not hold the dust like plastic film.
Makes sense to me.
Dale Ensing I am contemplating making the typical homebuilder's
paint booth (2x2
frame covered with plastic). I've read Ron Alexander's book and
seen
Sam James video. No one seems to specify a CFM rating for the
vent
fan. The total volume of the booth in its largest configuration
will be
about 1300 cu ft. (it will taper towards the back because of space
constraints). I note that the commonly available attic vent fan
(that's
something homes often have here in the Arizona desert) is about
1350cfm
for about $50. That would turn over the air once/minute.
Actually it
would probably be about half that in the real world. Is that
adequate,
or is a larger gale necessary?
--
Tom Sarg
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| Subject: | Re: home paint booth ventilation |
Dale Ensing wrote:
> Tom and others getting ready to paint.
>
>On a related painting issue...........
>
> I was told by another experienced builder/painter not to use plastic
> to cover a temporary paint booth but to use house wrap, like Tyvik,
> (sp) as it does not hold the dust like plastic film.
>
> Makes sense to me.
>
>Dale Ensing
>
Hmmm, never thought about the static cling thingy. Seems like that
would keep the dust off the new paint, though.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: home paint booth ventilation |
This bucking bar worked well when back riveting the top wiing skin.
71024 Bucking Bar $10.00 5.0 lbs
http://www.yardstore.com/index.cfm?action=ViewDetails&ItemID=463&Category=160
Sherman Butler
RV-7a Wings
Idaho Falls
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| Subject: | FAA seat belt requirement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Ken:
Read AC 20-27E section 7 d (2). (its on page 4)
http://members.eaa.org/home/govt/rules/ac20-27e.pdf
or
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/0ca2845e2aafffbb86256dbf00640cb2/$FILE/AC20-27F.pdf
it says:
"d. Designing the Cockpit/Cabin. When you design the cockpit or cabin, you
should do the
following:"
-------- snip ---------
"(2) Install FAA TSO-approved seatbelts and shoulder harnesses. ..."
Note that it says "...you should..." not that you must.
I am trying to find in the regulations and FAA orders where it says that you
MUST have seatbelts in an amateur built experimental aircraft . I do not
know any DARs or FAA inspectors that will put their name on the Special
Airworthiness Certificate pink slip (FAA Form 8130-7) on any amateur bult
aircraft that does not have seat belts.
If you find the FAA REQUIREMENT that says you MUST have seatbelts in an
amateur built experimental, please post it to the list.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,962 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://www.rvdar.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "kenneth hill" <khill5@indy.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: FAA seat belt requirement
The FAA inspected my RV-9A yesterday and all went well, thank you very much.
I now have a legal airplane and am preparing for the phase 1 flyoff.
However, the inspector said my seat belts, the 4 point style from Van's,
were not TSO'd and therefore not legal for me to use. He said I would have
to change them to a TSO'd brand before I could fly the plane. Has anyone
else run into this? I talked to Van's and their opinion was "it is an
experimental and therefore the non-FAA PMA seatbelts are acceptable." Do I
make the government happy and maybe avoid problems down the road by changing
them or continue with what I have installed?
Ken Hill
Plainfield, IN.
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