---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/25/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:34 AM - Re: test (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 2. 05:08 AM - Intersection fairings (glen matejcek) 3. 05:38 AM - Re: Intersection fairings (13brv3) 4. 09:07 AM - Re: Intersection fairings (mark phipps) 5. 12:08 PM - RV specific search engine (Bob Collins) 6. 02:54 PM - DRE 244e Intercom (D Paul Deits) 7. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: Ignition & FI (Morocketman@aol.com) 8. 04:04 PM - Re: RV specific search engine (Dan) 9. 04:04 PM - Re: RV specific search engine (Dan) 10. 04:53 PM - Re: 1st time engine start (Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com) 11. 09:01 PM - Re: Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump (Chuck) 12. 09:15 PM - Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump (Chuck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:16 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: test Thanks! (Great service, eh?) do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:27 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: Intersection fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" Hi All- Does anyone have any feedback on commercially available upper intersection fairings for my RV-8? I'm just about fiberglass happy at this point, and would buy a set if they are good / will actually reduce the time I'll spend on them. TIA- glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:03 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Intersection fairings From: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> --> RV-List message posted by: "13brv3" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net> I got a set from http://www.fairings-etc.com/home.htm They aren't cheap, and you won't get them too quickly, but they are really nice. Cheers, Rusty Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70101#70101 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:15 AM PST US From: mark phipps Subject: Re: RV-List: Intersection fairings Contact Bob Snedeker at www.Fairingsetc.com. glen matejcek wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" Hi All- Does anyone have any feedback on commercially available upper intersection fairings for my RV-8? I'm just about fiberglass happy at this point, and would buy a set if they are good / will actually reduce the time I'll spend on them. TIA- glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:17 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV specific search engine From: "Bob Collins" --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" Hi there: I'm in the process of moving the RV Builder's Hotline over to the Expercraft server, and today I started playing with the Google custom search engine. I've set up a RV-specific Google search here (http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html) ( http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html ), that currently searches the Hotline archives, VAF, VAF forums, Matronics, myrv10.com, rvproject.com, Rivetbangers and a few others. Still some bugs to work out, but I'd like to add other sites, and the page allows for collaborators to add their sites. And the code is also provided there if folks want to use it on their own sites. If you'd like to collaborate, go here: http://tinyurl.com/y7frdy I think this could be a good and useful tool to continue aggregating RV information across the far-flung universe. Apologies for cross postings. Do not archive -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. RV Builder's Hotline (free!) http://home.comcast.net/~rvnewsletter/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70179#70179 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:23 PM PST US From: "D Paul Deits" Subject: RV-List: DRE 244e Intercom --> RV-List message posted by: "D Paul Deits" Interested in locating a DRE-244e intercom. Very impressed in their performance. If unable to locate, any suggestions? Thank you ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:39 PM PST US From: Morocketman@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Ignition & FI Could you explain the reasons you are willing to spend several thousand dollars for a FADEC system on your XP-360? I am at a loss why new technology is so appealing to people "before" it is even realistically proven reliable in a critical area such as the powerplant. It ain't broke, so don't fix it. I had my Lycoming IO-540 "gami-fied" by Don Rivera and it is absolutely running perfectly, and at less fuel flow than anyone ever thought. I use 9.3 gph, at 21" and 2050 rpm, which is about 52%, and cruise my Harmon Rocket at 188 knots for efficiency. Push it up to 23"/ 2250rpm, and burn 10.1 at 196 knots. All validated by Vision Microsystems 1000, and good ole G.P.S. Can you in your widest dreams, ever save fuel over these numbers, or engine life span, or anything that will pay you back Three Grand? Les Featherston ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:00 PM PST US From: Dan Subject: Re: RV-List: RV specific search engine Awsome tool thanks for all your hard work Bob Dan 8- wings Snohomish Bob Collins wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" Hi there: I'm in the process of moving the RV Builder's Hotline over to the Expercraft server, and today I started playing with the Google custom search engine. I've set up a RV-specific Google search here (http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html) ( http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html ), that currently searches the Hotline archives, VAF, VAF forums, Matronics, myrv10.com, rvproject.com, Rivetbangers and a few others. Still some bugs to work out, but I'd like to add other sites, and the page allows for collaborators to add their sites. And the code is also provided there if folks want to use it on their own sites. If you'd like to collaborate, go here: http://tinyurl.com/y7frdy I think this could be a good and useful tool to continue aggregating RV information across the far-flung universe. Apologies for cross postings. Do not archive -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. RV Builder's Hotline (free!) http://home.comcast.net/~rvnewsletter/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70179#70179 --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:00 PM PST US From: Dan Subject: Re: RV-List: RV specific search engine Awsome tool thanks for all your hard work Bob Dan 8- wings Snohomish Bob Collins wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" Hi there: I'm in the process of moving the RV Builder's Hotline over to the Expercraft server, and today I started playing with the Google custom search engine. I've set up a RV-specific Google search here (http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html) ( http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/search.html ), that currently searches the Hotline archives, VAF, VAF forums, Matronics, myrv10.com, rvproject.com, Rivetbangers and a few others. Still some bugs to work out, but I'd like to add other sites, and the page allows for collaborators to add their sites. And the code is also provided there if folks want to use it on their own sites. If you'd like to collaborate, go here: http://tinyurl.com/y7frdy I think this could be a good and useful tool to continue aggregating RV information across the far-flung universe. Apologies for cross postings. Do not archive -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. RV Builder's Hotline (free!) http://home.comcast.net/~rvnewsletter/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70179#70179 --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:07 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: re: 1st time engine start From: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com --> RV-List message posted by: Erich_Weaver@URSCorp.com Walter wrote: "air was flowing out the front center of the baffles and running through the inlet ramp and out into the lower pressure area outside the baffles". I want to understand this better, as I am currently 'getting baffled' on my -7A. Why was air flowing out the front center of the baffles? Do you mean that it just pushes right through the seal material and there is really nothing that could easily fix the problem at that location (instead of the documented fix at the ramps)? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:45 PM PST US From: Chuck Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump Okay Guys & Gals, Just to give "closure" to this issue, I wussied-out and took the path of least resistance (and the most $$$). I just sent my Dukes pump back to Dukes Inc. The cost was $440 for a complete overhaul and it took 10 calendar days total door-to-door. It works great and I probably won't regret it unless it fails in the next four years. If it does fail, I'll wish I would have built up my own system. And I still might, for my "in-the-works" 3-pete offender RV-4 project (wings & tail done, fuselage out-of jig, engine awaits tear-down). Sheeeett... Now I remember why I coughed-up the $$$, I don't have any time and I want to fly my 4 !!! Chuck Charlie Kuss wrote: Dan, I wrote that post and I can't find it either. I've saved some of this info on my hard drive. FYI, I wasn't the first one to figure out you could buy this stuff. I am including some of the stuff I saved on this subject below. Charlie Kuss I bought the same pump (API) from NAPA this morning. I will have to use the plumbing and parts off of my API pump, but not a problem. The cost was $134. Carter P/N is P74015. The box it came in reads Supplied to NAPA by Carter Fuel Systems Federal Mogul Southfield, MI. Kevin Ebsen Listers, I checked with my local auto parts supplier. The part number supplied by Kevin is the actual Carter part number. These pumps are used on the following vehicles. 1983-86 Ford & Mercury 4 cylinder engines 1971-82 Volvo 4 cylinder engines 1976-82 " 6 " " 1975-77 BMW 6 cylinder engines 1975-80 Cadillac 8 cylinder engines I was quoted $137 (wholesale) Even if this is not a savings over API's price, it's valuable information to have. At least if your pump fails, you know you can get one at an auto parts store, rather than Fed Ex ing one from API. Charlie Kuss The filter is from "Flow Ezy". www.flowezy.com I have a model 4ILA with 3/8 pipe thread, 74 micron screen, viton O-ring, black color. PN- 4ILA-03-74-F3-BL Be careful when modifying your fuel system. Unexpected things can happen. George Meketa RV8, ACGM@GVTC.COM N444TX, 261.3 hours FYI, This is a slightly smaller version of the 6 ILA model Airflow Performance sells. Pegasus Auto Racing carries this item now, with Viton seals (resists auto fuels, gasahol, etc) and a 25 micron screen. I convinced RV-9A builder Chris Heitman (the owner) to stock these by arranging a "group purchase" several years ago. I am using 2 of these units, one in each wing root area. See http://flowezy.freeyellow.com/racingMODEL_4ILA.html http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecId=3469 For those who have the stock 6ILA filter sold by Airflow Performance and Vans, you can get the Viton seals and better screen filter elements from Flow Ezy or one of their distributors. It's harder to find the model 6 ILA filter on Flow Ezy's web site, as they consider it a "high pressure filter". See the 8th item from the top of the page below. http://198.170.245.162/flowezypagehydraulicfilters.html#HIGHPRESSUREIN-LINEFILTER I hope this helps Charlie Kuss Hi Mike, I tried to find message "121131" in the archives, but apparently it won't let me search on the message number. There are 1573 hits on "fuel pump". Any suggestions on how to find messages relevant to this pump? do not archive Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A IO-360-A1A In a message dated 9/12/2006 6:42:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mstewart@iss.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" A direct fuel pump replacement for the AFP electric fuel pump is the Carter fuel pump part number P74015 I have replaced mine on the road before readily available from Napa or autozone ~$120 A search of the archives will help. Message 121131 It was Charlie Kuss that had all the G2 on the pumps and filters. I had 2 pumps maybe 3 die on my rv-6 in 1500 hours. I had to run my pump above 7k' for vapor lock so mine ran a lot. A change in the filter element to a finer filter solved the problem and I used that same smaller micron filter for my 8. Enjoy, Mike --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:27 PM PST US From: Chuck Subject: RV-List: Fuel Pump, Boost Pump, Electric Pump I've included this email exchange for others who may want Dukes info and or the archives. Greg Lewin wrote: Subject: RE: Fuel-Boost pump rebuild kit From: "Greg Lewin" Chuck, The 12 volt equivalent to the 4140-00-15 is 4140-00-17. The repair kit is 2140-220 or the overhaul kit is 2140-224. The repair kit cost is $260.00 and the overhaul kit is $295.00. The overhaul kit contains all of the same parts as the repair kit plus bearings and brushes for the motor. Please be aware that the pump will require recalibration on a fuel bench after the parts are installed ! The pump can be returned to Dukes for overhaul, cost is $440.00. Regards Greg Lewin Dukes Inc. Product Support --------------------------------- From: Chuck [mailto:chuck515tigger@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: RE: Fuel-Boost pump rebuild kit Greg, The pump looks like your part number 4140-00-15, except it's 12 volt and puts out about 18 psi. It has thr "Dukes Inc" standard red metal label, but there's no part number, no serial number, or any info fill out in the blanks on the label. On the pump part of it (not the electric motor part) I can read "DBL IMP AMC" but I haven't a clue what that means. The pumps spins, when current is applied, but won't pressurize. I took it apart and found the shaft pin is sheared-off in the shaft. I figure I should just replace the vanes, seals, etc... I have this on my RV-4 (I built from scratch; as well as I have earned my FAA Repairman's certificate to go with it.) Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated. Sincerely, Chuck Greg Lewin wrote: Chuck, Kits can be ordered direct from Dukes but we will need to know the part number of the pump to verify which kit you need. Regards Greg Lewin Dukes Inc Product Support ---------------------------------