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Thu 10/26/06


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:13 AM - Re: Intersection fairings (glen matejcek)
     2. 07:39 AM - FADEC controlled engine problem (Ron Lee)
     3. 11:40 AM - Headphone jacks (Paul Rice)
     4. 11:50 AM - Re: FADEC controlled engine problem (Skylor Piper)
     5. 01:05 PM - Re: Headphone jacks (Dale Walter)
     6. 02:44 PM - Re: FADEC controlled engine problem (Ron Lee)
     7. 03:21 PM - control sticks (bertrv6@highstream.net)
     8. 05:09 PM - Re: control sticks (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     9. 05:36 PM - Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
    10. 06:04 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Sam Buchanan)
    11. 06:32 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (David Maib)
    12. 06:39 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Ron Lee)
    13. 06:49 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Kyle Boatright)
    14. 07:41 PM - Re: control sticks (William Gill)
    15. 07:50 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (William Gill)
    16. 09:23 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Sam Buchanan)
    17. 09:57 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (David Leonard)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:13:13 AM PST US
    From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RE: Intersection fairings
    --> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net> Rusty / Mark- Thanks for the feedback - I'll order some today! glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:39:34 AM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: FADEC controlled engine problem
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> Background: New RV-7A, XP-360 engine, Aerosance FADEC system. On the second flight the engine was surging at times. The pilot reported a significant CHT drop on the #4 cylinder. On the first flight that same cylinder had very high CHT but that data point may be misleading. Aerosance suggested moving the fuel injector to the number 2 cylinder to see if the problem moves. Certainly a valid way to isolate a problem but since the problem was not duplicated on a ground run it may not be best to try in again in flight. Ignoring for now that the FADEC controller may be a problem I am assuming three possible problems. 1) Inadequate fuel flow 2) Intermittent clog in the injector 3) Solenoid problem ( Apparently the solenoid on each injector somehow controls the fuel injected in to the cylinder). Fuel flow could be verified by disconnecting the fuel lines at the injector and running the boost pump to verify fuel flow and eliminating a clog in the line as a possible problem. As far as the injector, I am assuming that there is a way to check for blockage. The owner should be checking documentation for additional info as well as calling the manufacturer but if anyone has helpful advice it would be appreciated. Ron Lee


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    Time: 11:40:00 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
    Subject: Headphone jacks
    Hey all, I am about to install my electronics. I plan to purchase sterio headsets I have an intercom that in not sterio capable, will I have any proble ms with this, do I need to install sterio jacks or will the jacks supplie d with the intercom unit do fine? Thanks, Paul Rice RV-8 Finish Kit, Engine intalled


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    Time: 11:50:03 AM PST US
    From: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: FADEC controlled engine problem
    --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> What did the EGT's do during the surging? --- Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee > <ronlee@pcisys.net> > > Background: New RV-7A, XP-360 engine, Aerosance > FADEC system. > > On the second flight the engine was surging at > times. The pilot > reported a significant CHT drop on the #4 cylinder. > On the first > flight that same cylinder had very high CHT but that > data point > may be misleading. > > Aerosance suggested moving the fuel injector to the > number 2 > cylinder to see if the problem moves. Certainly a > valid way to > isolate a problem but since the problem was not > duplicated on > a ground run it may not be best to try in again in > flight. > > Ignoring for now that the FADEC controller may be a > problem > I am assuming three possible problems. > > 1) Inadequate fuel flow > > 2) Intermittent clog in the injector > > 3) Solenoid problem ( Apparently the solenoid on > each injector > somehow controls the fuel injected in to the > cylinder). > > Fuel flow could be verified by disconnecting the > fuel lines at the > injector and running the boost pump to verify fuel > flow and eliminating > a clog in the line as a possible problem. > > As far as the injector, I am assuming that there is > a way to check > for blockage. > > The owner should be checking documentation for > additional info as well > as calling the manufacturer but if anyone has > helpful advice it would > be appreciated. > > Ron Lee > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Web Forums! > > > Admin. > > > > > __________________________________________________


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    Time: 01:05:30 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
    Subject: Headphone jacks
    Hi Paul, Those jacks will work. Dale _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rice Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: RV-List: Headphone jacks Hey all, I am about to install my electronics. I plan to purchase sterio headsets. I have an intercom that in not sterio capable, will I have any problems with this, do I need to install sterio jacks or will the jacks supplied with the intercom unit do fine? Thanks, Paul Rice RV-8 Finish Kit, Engine intalled


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    Time: 02:44:16 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: FADEC controlled engine problem
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> At 12:49 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> > >What did the EGT's do during the surging? I don't have that info. With the blizzard today I may not have it until Friday...if it is known. Ron Lee Do not archive


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    Time: 03:21:18 PM PST US
    From: bertrv6@highstream.net
    Subject: control sticks
    --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Hi: I have tried to contact the company Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but the phone is not working. Is this company now, Ray Allen? if so any one has the PHone number, or Email Adress? I want to buy one of the G5 sticks.... Would like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other suppliers.. Thanks Bert rv6a do nopt archive


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    Time: 05:09:08 PM PST US
    Subject: control sticks
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> I believe Ray Allen bought all of MAC's assets. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bertrv6@highstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: RV-List: control sticks --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Hi: I have tried to contact the company Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but the phone is not working. Is this company now, Ray Allen? if so any one has the PHone number, or Email Adress? I want to buy one of the G5 sticks.... Would like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other suppliers.. Thanks Bert rv6a do nopt archive


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    Time: 05:36:07 PM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    I came across this battery deal: http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-6 80.asp This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs. The price is $28.53. Even after adding shipping that's a good price. The specs look good. I found more specs somewhere else on the web site. Can't find it right now. I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere. I may just try one. Dan Hopper RV-7A


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    Time: 06:04:35 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: > I came across this battery deal: > > http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-6 > 80.asp > > This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs. The price is > $28.53. Even after adding shipping that's a good price. The specs look good. I > found more specs somewhere else on the web site. Can't find it right now. > > I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that > this place has the best battery deals anywhere. Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with the low-priced batteries: http://thejournal.com/battery.htm Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 06:32:50 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com> Sam, That link does not work. I would be interested in your battery experiences. David Maib RV-10 40559 tailcone On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Sam Buchanan wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: > I came across this battery deal: > http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/ > cutsheets/58-PC-6 > 80.asp > This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs. The > price is $28.53. Even after adding shipping that's a good price. > The specs look good. I found more specs somewhere else on the web > site. Can't find it right now. > I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine > says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere. Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with the low-priced batteries: http://thejournal.com/battery.htm Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 06:39:12 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> > > >Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a >few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with >the low-priced batteries: > >http://thejournal.com/battery.htm The link did not work for me. Ron Lee do not archive please


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    Time: 06:49:56 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> Try: http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Maib" <dmaib@mac.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:28 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Odyssey style battery -- low cost > --> RV-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com> > > Sam, > > That link does not work. I would be interested in your battery > experiences. > > David Maib > RV-10 > 40559 > tailcone > > On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Sam Buchanan wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: >> I came across this battery deal: >> http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/ >> cutsheets/58-PC-6 >> 80.asp >> This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs. The >> price is $28.53. Even after adding shipping that's a good price. >> The specs look good. I found more specs somewhere else on the web >> site. Can't find it right now. >> I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine >> says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere. > > > Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 > for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my > experiences with the low-priced batteries: > > http://thejournal.com/battery.htm > > Sam Buchanan > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US
    From: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
    Subject: control sticks
    --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net> Here's a link to their site: http://www.rayallencompany.com/ do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bertrv6@highstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: RV-List: control sticks --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Hi: I have tried to contact the company Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but the phone is not working. Is this company now, Ray Allen? if so any one has the PHone number, or Email Adress? I want to buy one of the G5 sticks.... Would like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other suppliers.. Thanks Bert rv6a do nopt archive


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    Time: 07:50:53 PM PST US
    From: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
    Subject: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net> Try: http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Odyssey style battery -- low cost --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> > > >Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a >few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with >the low-priced batteries: > >http://thejournal.com/battery.htm The link did not work for me. Ron Lee do not archive please


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    Time: 09:23:17 PM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Kyle Boatright wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> > > Try: > > http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm > > KB Thanks, Kyle; I failed to use the idiot checker before I sent the email. ;-) Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 09:57:20 PM PST US
    From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
    Dan, Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries. Those are typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an improved gel cell. That battery weighs less and has more total energy (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680). That battery also costs less. So why get the odyssey? Cranking Amps is the main issue. Odysseys have huge cranking ability when fully charged. Odysseys also are unspillable and can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box. They can tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at least twice as long. \ It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming their battery the PC-680. But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery.. You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably. David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY My websites at: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com Dan Harper wrote: I came across this battery deal: http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs. The price is $28.53. Even after adding shipping that's a good price. The specs look good. I found more specs somewhere else on the web site. Can't find it right now. I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere. I may just try one. Dan Hopper RV-7A




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