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     1. 06:13 AM - Re: Intersection fairings (glen matejcek)
     2. 07:39 AM - FADEC controlled engine problem (Ron Lee)
     3. 11:40 AM - Headphone jacks (Paul Rice)
     4. 11:50 AM - Re: FADEC controlled engine problem (Skylor Piper)
     5. 01:05 PM - Re: Headphone jacks (Dale Walter)
     6. 02:44 PM - Re: FADEC controlled engine problem (Ron Lee)
     7. 03:21 PM - control sticks (bertrv6@highstream.net)
     8. 05:09 PM - Re: control sticks (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     9. 05:36 PM - Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
    10. 06:04 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Sam Buchanan)
    11. 06:32 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (David Maib)
    12. 06:39 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Ron Lee)
    13. 06:49 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Kyle Boatright)
    14. 07:41 PM - Re: control sticks (William Gill)
    15. 07:50 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (William Gill)
    16. 09:23 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (Sam Buchanan)
    17. 09:57 PM - Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost (David Leonard)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | RE: Intersection fairings | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
      
      Rusty / Mark-
      
      Thanks for the feedback - I'll order some today!
      
      glen matejcek
      aerobubba@earthlink.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | FADEC controlled engine problem | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
      
      Background:  New RV-7A, XP-360 engine, Aerosance FADEC system.
      
      On the second flight the engine was surging at times.  The pilot
      reported a significant CHT drop on the #4 cylinder.  On the first
      flight that same cylinder had very high CHT but that data point
      may be misleading.
      
      Aerosance suggested moving the fuel injector to the number 2
      cylinder to see if the problem moves.  Certainly a valid way to
      isolate a problem but since the problem was not duplicated on
      a ground run it may not be best to try in again in flight.
      
      Ignoring for now that the FADEC controller may be a problem
      I am assuming three possible problems.
      
      1)  Inadequate fuel flow
      
      2)  Intermittent clog in the injector
      
      3)  Solenoid problem ( Apparently the solenoid on each injector
      somehow controls the fuel injected in to the cylinder).
      
      Fuel flow could be verified by disconnecting the fuel lines at the
      injector and running the boost pump to verify fuel flow and eliminating
      a clog in the line as a possible problem.
      
      As far as the injector, I am assuming that there is a way to check
      for blockage.
      
      The owner should be checking documentation for additional info as well
      as calling the manufacturer but if anyone has helpful advice it would
      be appreciated.
      
      Ron Lee
      
      
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      Hey all,
      
      I am about to install my electronics.  I plan to purchase sterio headsets
        I have an  intercom that in not sterio capable, will I have any proble
      ms with this, do I need to install sterio jacks or will the jacks supplie
      d with the intercom unit do fine?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Paul Rice
      RV-8
      Finish Kit,
      Engine intalled
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FADEC controlled engine problem | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
      
      What did the EGT's do during the surging?
      
      --- Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote:
      
      > --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee
      > <ronlee@pcisys.net>
      > 
      > Background:  New RV-7A, XP-360 engine, Aerosance
      > FADEC system.
      > 
      > On the second flight the engine was surging at
      > times.  The pilot
      > reported a significant CHT drop on the #4 cylinder. 
      > On the first
      > flight that same cylinder had very high CHT but that
      > data point
      > may be misleading.
      > 
      > Aerosance suggested moving the fuel injector to the
      > number 2
      > cylinder to see if the problem moves.  Certainly a
      > valid way to
      > isolate a problem but since the problem was not
      > duplicated on
      > a ground run it may not be best to try in again in
      > flight.
      > 
      > Ignoring for now that the FADEC controller may be a
      > problem
      > I am assuming three possible problems.
      > 
      > 1)  Inadequate fuel flow
      > 
      > 2)  Intermittent clog in the injector
      > 
      > 3)  Solenoid problem ( Apparently the solenoid on
      > each injector
      > somehow controls the fuel injected in to the
      > cylinder).
      > 
      > Fuel flow could be verified by disconnecting the
      > fuel lines at the
      > injector and running the boost pump to verify fuel
      > flow and eliminating
      > a clog in the line as a possible problem.
      > 
      > As far as the injector, I am assuming that there is
      > a way to check
      > for blockage.
      > 
      > The owner should be checking documentation for
      > additional info as well
      > as calling the manufacturer but if anyone has
      > helpful advice it would
      > be appreciated.
      > 
      > Ron Lee
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      > browse
      > Subscriptions page,
      > FAQ,
      >
      > Web Forums!
      >
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      > Admin.
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      Hi Paul,
      
      Those jacks will work.
      
      Dale
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rice
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:39 PM
      Subject: RV-List: Headphone jacks
      
      
      Hey all,
      
      
      I am about to install my electronics.  I plan to purchase sterio headsets.
      I have an  intercom that in not sterio capable, will I have any problems
      with this, do I need to install sterio jacks or will the jacks supplied with
      the intercom unit do fine?
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      
      Paul Rice
      
      RV-8
      
      Finish Kit,
      
      Engine intalled
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FADEC controlled engine problem | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
      
      At 12:49 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:
      >--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
      >
      >What did the EGT's do during the surging?
      
      I don't have that info.  With the blizzard today I may not have
      it until Friday...if it is known.
      
      Ron Lee
      
      Do not archive 
      
      
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      --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
      
      
      Hi:
      
      
      I have tried to contact the company  Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but
      the phone is not working.
      
         Is this company now, Ray Allen?  if so any one has the PHone number,
      or  Email Adress?
      
         I want to buy one of the G5 sticks....
      
      
      Would  like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other suppliers..
      
      
      Thanks
      
      Bert
      
      rv6a
      
      do nopt archive
      
      
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      --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
      
      I believe Ray Allen bought all of MAC's assets.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      bertrv6@highstream.net
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:21 PM
      Subject: RV-List: control sticks
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
      
      
      Hi:
      
      
      I have tried to contact the company  Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but the
      phone is not working.
      
         Is this company now, Ray Allen?  if so any one has the PHone number,
      or  Email Adress?
      
         I want to buy one of the G5 sticks....
      
      
      Would  like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other
      suppliers..
      
      
      Thanks
      
      Bert
      
      rv6a
      
      do nopt archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      I came across this battery deal:
      
      http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-6
      80.asp
      
      This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is 
      $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.
      I 
      found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now.
      
      I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that 
      this place has the best battery deals anywhere.
      
      I may just try one.
      
      Dan Hopper
      RV-7A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
      
      Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
      > I came across this battery deal:
      > 
      > http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-6
      > 80.asp
      > 
      > This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is 
      > $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look good.
      I 
      > found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it right now.
      > 
      > I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that 
      > this place has the best battery deals anywhere.
      
      
      Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for 
      a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences 
      with the low-priced batteries:
      
      http://thejournal.com/battery.htm
      
      Sam Buchanan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
      
      Sam,
      
      That link does not work. I would be interested in your battery  
      experiences.
      
      David Maib
      RV-10
      40559
      tailcone
      
      On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Sam Buchanan wrote:
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
      
      Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
      > I came across this battery deal:
      > http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/ 
      > cutsheets/58-PC-6
      > 80.asp
      > This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The  
      > price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.   
      > The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web  
      > site.  Can't find it right now.
      > I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine  
      > says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.
      
      
      Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6  
      for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my  
      experiences with the low-priced batteries:
      
      http://thejournal.com/battery.htm
      
      Sam Buchanan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
      
      
      >
      >
      >Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6 for a 
      >few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences with 
      >the low-priced batteries:
      >
      >http://thejournal.com/battery.htm
      
      The link did not work for me.
      
      Ron Lee
      
      do not archive please 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
      
      Try:
      
       http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm
      
      KB
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "David Maib" <dmaib@mac.com>
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:28 PM
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
      
      
      > --> RV-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
      > 
      > Sam,
      > 
      > That link does not work. I would be interested in your battery  
      > experiences.
      > 
      > David Maib
      > RV-10
      > 40559
      > tailcone
      > 
      > On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Sam Buchanan wrote:
      > 
      > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
      > 
      > Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:
      >> I came across this battery deal:
      >> http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/ 
      >> cutsheets/58-PC-6
      >> 80.asp
      >> This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The  
      >> price is $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.   
      >> The specs look good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web  
      >> site.  Can't find it right now.
      >> I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine  
      >> says that this place has the best battery deals anywhere.
      > 
      > 
      > Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6  
      > for a few years. Here are details and recommendations about my  
      > experiences with the low-priced batteries:
      > 
      > http://thejournal.com/battery.htm
      > 
      > Sam Buchanan
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
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      --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
      
      Here's a link to their site:
      
      http://www.rayallencompany.com/
      
      
      do not archive
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      bertrv6@highstream.net
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:21 PM
      Subject: RV-List: control sticks
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
      
      
      Hi:
      
      
      I have tried to contact the company  Menzimer Aircraft (Mac) but
      the phone is not working.
      
         Is this company now, Ray Allen?  if so any one has the PHone number,
      or  Email Adress?
      
         I want to buy one of the G5 sticks....
      
      
      Would  like to compare prices, with them directly and thru other
      suppliers..
      
      
      Thanks
      
      Bert
      
      rv6a
      
      do nopt archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
      
      Try:
      
      http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm
      
      
      do not archive
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:39 PM
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Odyssey style battery -- low cost
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
      
      
      >
      >
      >Looks very, very similar to the Panasonic batteries I ran in my RV-6
      for a 
      >few years. Here are details and recommendations about my experiences
      with 
      >the low-priced batteries:
      >
      >http://thejournal.com/battery.htm
      
      The link did not work for me.
      
      Ron Lee
      
      do not archive please 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
      
      Kyle Boatright wrote:
      > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
      > 
      > Try:
      > 
      > http://thervjournal.com/battery.htm
      > 
      > KB
      
      
      Thanks, Kyle; I failed to use the idiot checker before I sent the email. 
        ;-)
      
      Sam Buchanan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Odyssey style battery -- low cost | 
      
      Dan,
      
      Note that those are not that similar to the odyssey batteries.  Those are
      typical sealed lead acid while the odyssey batteries are more like an
      improved gel cell.  That battery weighs less and has more total energy
      (22a/h vs 16 a/h) than the Odyssey of the same number/size (PC-680).  That
      battery also costs less.
      
      So why get the odyssey?  Cranking Amps is the main issue.  Odysseys have
      huge cranking ability when fully charged.  Odysseys also are unspillable and
      can be mounted in any position and don't need a battery box.  They can
      tolerated repeated deep cycling much better, and they will probably last at
      least twice as long.  \
      
      It does seem like they are trying to appear as an odyssey clone by naming
      their battery the PC-680.
      
      But still, that seems like a good price for a sealed lead acid battery..
      You will probably want 2 of them to be able to crank your engine reliably.
      
      
      David Leonard
      
      Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
      My websites at:
      http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
      http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
      http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com
      
      Dan Harper wrote:
       I came across this battery deal:
      
      http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/58-PC-680.asp
      
      This looks like a replacement for the battery used in RVs.  The price is
      $28.53.  Even after adding shipping that's a good price.  The specs look
      good.  I found more specs somewhere else on the web site.  Can't find it
      right now.
      
      I can't specifically endorse this battery, but a friend of mine says that
      this place has the best battery deals anywhere.
      
      I may just try one.
      
      Dan Hopper
      RV-7A
      
 
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