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0. 06:35 AM - Grease Seals - Soak or not ? (Bill Schlatterer)
2. 06:39 AM - Test (Richard Dudley)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: Grease Seals - Soak or not ? (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
4. 07:31 AM - Palm Springs, CA Airports... (Bill VonDane)
5. 07:44 AM - Airflow Performance fuel servo set-up (RV-7 w/IO-390) (William Gill)
6. 08:28 AM - Re: Electronics International gages (John Danielson)
7. 09:37 AM - Re: Airflow Performance fuel servo set-up (RV-7 w/IO-390) (Dan Checkoway)
8. 10:12 AM - Re: Grease Seals - Soak or not ? (Peter Mather)
9. 10:28 AM - Re: Spark Plugs & Repairman (Dave Bristol)
10. 10:46 AM - Re: Spark Plugs & Repairman (Charlie England)
11. 02:28 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (Tim Bryan)
12. 04:53 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (Ron Lee)
13. 05:30 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (David Leonard)
14. 06:59 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (Tim Bryan)
15. 07:45 PM - RV-6 elevators needed (Brian Kraut)
16. 09:02 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (RV6 Flyer)
17. 10:57 PM - Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... (Phyrcooler)
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| Subject: | Grease Seals - Soak or not ? |
Just assembled my wheels to gear and thought I went by Vans instructions
pretty well. Later I looked at the instructions that came with the
Cleveland wheels and they indicated that if you were using the felt wheel
seals, which we do,. that you should soak the felt in 10 w motor oil before
assembly. Re-read Vans instructions a couple of times and they never
mention it.
I was wondering if most folks did or did not soak the felt? Looks like it
will become grease soaked anyway.
Thanks Bill S
7a ark
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley1@bellsouth.net>
Test
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RHDudley
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| Subject: | Re: Grease Seals - Soak or not ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
In a message dated 11/5/06 9:43:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net writes:
> I was wondering if most folks did or did not soak the felt? Looks like it
> will become grease soaked anyway.
>
> Thanks Bill S
> 7a ark
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Well, grease soaked! I doubt it but grease coated SURE. You definitely want
then coated or soaked somehow.
If you put them together without any oil or grease; I would just squirt some
oil on them. It will work its way in.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
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| Subject: | Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
Hey all...
We are going to be flying to the AOPA Expo tomorrow and planning on
going to KTRM, but are open to other airports in the area if anyone has
any suggestions... If anyone have any room in a hanger for my -8A that
would be awesome too!
Thanks!
-Bill
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance fuel servo set-up (RV-7 w/IO-390) |
Hello All,
If anyone has any pictures of the throttle and mixture cable connections
to the fuel servo, please send them my way. I am also trying to find a
source for the cable end B-nuts that will fit through the linkage arms
on the fuel servo or similar hardware for this purpose (Aircraft Spruce
doesn't have). I have rotated the fuel servo 90 degrees that allows both
the mixture and throttle arm linkages to be positioned slightly lower
than the sump. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Best regards,
Bill Gill
Lee's Summit, MO
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| Subject: | Electronics International gages |
I'll agree with Paul, their service is superb. I ordered a UBG 16 from
Aircraft Spruce. The gauge they sent didn't have the same connectors for
the probes as the instrument. After many calls and packages sent, I
finally called EI and spoke with a women there who knew exactly what I
wanted. She said send the probes back and she would send the probes with
the correct connector. The probes arrived the next day. Couldn't be
better.
John Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Electronics International gages
The dimming is kind of weird with their instruments in that they require
multiple dimmers. I have the UBG 16 and the fuel flow meter as well.
My panel rheostat for the LED/LCD is probably the wrong type, because
it's kind of a all dark or all brite setting. The rheostat the came
with the UBG16 works fine as advertised. I just wish there was a way to
uniformly dim the entire panel.
Other than that, the instruments are great. And you REALLY can't beat
their customer service. First class.
Paul Besing
Paul Story <PStory@mn.rr.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Story
On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Emrath wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath"
>
> I would like to hear from folks using any of the Electronic
> International
> Gages. The backlighting for the digital read out portion may be
> connected
> to a panel rheostat to dim the backlighting. The instructions say to
> permanently power up the backlight control line which is what I have
> installed. However, I'm wondering about the merits of changing this
> and run
> the power lines thru a panel rheostat to be able to dim them. The LED
> lights are on a separate dimmer, as per instructions.
> Anyone have flying experience behind one or more of these gages to
> provide
> some user advice? Thanks.
>
> Marty in Brentwood TN {Wiring panel}
Marty,
I had the clock, UBG 16 and the fuel flow in my 172. The
backlighting was never too bright even in the darkest of cockpit
lighting. I hooked up the dimmer (for the LEDs and the
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| Subject: | Re: Airflow Performance fuel servo set-up (RV-7 w/IO-390) |
Doubt it would be any different than my IO-360-A* installation.
http://www.rvproject.com/construction_log.html
Granted the front-mounted gov'r and baffles are slightly different, but
the AFP servo + horizontal sump should be identical.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1127 hours)
www.rvproject.com / www.weathermeister.com
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From: William Gill
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: RV-List: Airflow Performance fuel servo set-up (RV-7
w/IO-390)
Hello All,
If anyone has any pictures of the throttle and mixture cable
connections to the fuel servo, please send them my way. I am also trying
to find a source for the cable end B-nuts that will fit through the
linkage arms on the fuel servo or similar hardware for this purpose
(Aircraft Spruce doesn't have). I have rotated the fuel servo 90 degrees
that allows both the mixture and throttle arm linkages to be positioned
slightly lower than the sump. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Best regards,
Bill Gill
Lee's Summit, MO
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| Subject: | Re: Grease Seals - Soak or not ? |
Grease Seals - Soak or not ?Bill
You should smear a thin layer of grease on the wheel seal holders and
then I was taught to paint oil onto the felt disk itself using a small
brush, bolt it all up and you should get a good seal
Best regards
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Schlatterer
To: rv-list@matronics.com ; RV7A@yahoogroups.com ;
rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: RV-List: Grease Seals - Soak or not ?
Just assembled my wheels to gear and thought I went by Vans
instructions pretty well. Later I looked at the instructions that came
with the Cleveland wheels and they indicated that if you were using the
felt wheel seals, which we do,. that you should soak the felt in 10 w
motor oil before assembly. Re-read Vans instructions a couple of times
and they never mention it.
I was wondering if most folks did or did not soak the felt? Looks
like it will become grease soaked anyway.
Thanks Bill S
7a ark
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs & Repairman |
The only privilege that the Repairman's Certificate gives you is signing
off the condition inspection. How can you responsibly write in your
logbook that: "this engine has been inspected in accordance with the
scope and detail of appendix D to part 43 and found to be in a condition
for safe operation", if you haven't checked the plugs?
Dave Bristol
EAA Technical Counselor
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Skylor Piper wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
>
>List,
>
>One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding
>checking of spark plug gaps:
>
>You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally
>clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug
>gap.
>
>This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,
>supbart C, paragraph 20.
>
>Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive
>maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes
>"Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of
>spark plug gap clearance."
>
>I bring this up, because much of the discussion
>related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered
>around "holders of repairman certificates". A
>repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do
>with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most
>believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate
>should know how!
>
>Skylor
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs & Repairman |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I suspect that his point
goes in the other direction (I'd go further): you don't need *any*
authorization of any sort to change plugs (or anything else on a
homebuilt), so the discussion of the Repairman's Cert. is all moot.
I'm not talking about what makes sense; just what's *required*.
Never, ever, encourage more regulation & further restrictions on your
freedom.
Charlie
no titles, but legal repairs/changes to 4 different homebuilts, so far
(none that I have held Repair. Certs on)
Dave Bristol wrote:
> The only privilege that the Repairman's Certificate gives you is
> signing off the condition inspection. How can you responsibly write in
> your logbook that: "this engine has been inspected in accordance
> with the scope and detail of appendix D to part 43 and found to be in
> a condition for safe operation", if you haven't checked the plugs?
>
> Dave Bristol
> EAA Technical Counselor
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Skylor Piper wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
>>
>>List,
>>
>>One thing that seems to be lost in the noise regarding
>>checking of spark plug gaps:
>>
>>You don't even need a repairman certifcate to legally
>>clean or replace spark plugs and set the spark plug
>>gap.
>>
>>This is clearly defined in Part 43, Appendix A,
>>supbart C, paragraph 20.
>>
>>Any owner licensed pilot/owner may perform preventive
>>maintenance of Part 91 aircraft, which includes
>>"Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of
>>spark plug gap clearance."
>>
>>I bring this up, because much of the discussion
>>related to spark plug gapping seems to be centered
>>around "holders of repairman certificates". A
>>repairman certificate has absolutely nothing to do
>>with legally gapping spark plugs, though I assume most
>>believe that the holder of a repairman's certificate
>>should know how!
>>
>>Skylor
>>
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| Subject: | Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
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Bill, isn't that Thermal? That is a ways from Palm Springs, about 45
minutes by car. There are a couple of airparks more toward Palm Desert that
have commercial operations on them. Did you check those out? Can't tell
you what they are any more, but have been to them.
Tim
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill VonDane
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: RV-List: Palm Springs, CA Airports...
Hey all...
We are going to be flying to the AOPA Expo tomorrow and planning on going to
KTRM, but are open to other airports in the area if anyone has any
suggestions... If anyone have any room in a hanger for my -8A that would be
awesome too!
Thanks!
-Bill
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| Subject: | Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
At 03:26 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote:
>Bill, isn't that Thermal? That is a ways from Palm Springs, about 45
>minutes by car. There are a couple of airparks more toward Palm Desert
>that have commercial operations on them. Did you check those out? Can't
>tell you what they are any more, but have been to them.
>
This is a start. Or use a sectional.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTRM
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
Bill,
We fly into Bermuda Dunes (UDD). It is about 10 miles away. I am flying up
with a couple friend in a Lance so we can fit 3 bikes as well....
Another option is twentynine palms. TNP. It is pretty far away, but I
think they are going to have a shuttle service. You can get all the info at
the palm springs airport site:
http://www.palmspringsairport.com/
Dave Leonard
On 11/5/06, Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote:
>
> At 03:26 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote:
>
> Bill, isn't that Thermal? That is a ways from Palm Springs, about 45
> minutes by car. There are a couple of airparks more toward Palm Desert that
> have commercial operations on them. Did you check those out? Can't tell
> you what they are any more, but have been to them.
>
>
> This is a start. Or use a sectional.
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTRM
>
> Ron Lee
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
Yea, that was one of them. I did my commercial checkride from Bermuda
Dunes.
Tim
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Palm Springs, CA Airports...
Bill,
We fly into Bermuda Dunes (UDD). It is about 10 miles away. I am flying up
with a couple friend in a Lance so we can fit 3 bikes as well....
Another option is twentynine palms. TNP. It is pretty far away, but I
think they are going to have a shuttle service. You can get all the info at
the palm springs airport site:
http://www.palmspringsairport.com/
Dave Leonard
On 11/5/06, Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote:
At 03:26 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote:
Bill, isn't that Thermal? That is a ways from Palm Springs, about 45
minutes by car. There are a couple of airparks more toward Palm Desert that
have commercial operations on them. Did you check those out? Can't tell
you what they are any more, but have been to them.
This is a start. Or use a sectional.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KTRM
Ron Lee
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Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
My websites at:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com
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| Subject: | RV-6 elevators needed |
I just bought an RV-6 project and both elevators are smashed. Anyone happen
to have any spares or parts? Anyone with a tail kit they are not going any
further with for a great price?
Contact me at brian@engalt.com.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
Why not fly right into Palm Springs? The last time I went to AOPA at Palm
Springs, that is what I did. Parked my RV-6 between two high wing Cessnas.
They did not have RAMP fees back then. Not sure what they charge now.
It says that there is reduced fuel and tiedown rates and FREE shuttle from
TRM but there is NO shuttle from DDU.
http://www.aopa.org/expo/2006/procedures.pdf
Sound like you are going early. It does not start till 9th.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,964 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Subject: RV-List: Palm Springs, CA Airports...
Hey all...
We are going to be flying to the AOPA Expo tomorrow and planning on going to
KTRM, but are open to other airports in the area if anyone has any
suggestions... If anyone have any room in a hanger for my -8A that would be
awesome too!
Thanks!
-Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Palm Springs, CA Airports... |
KTRM is only about 30 - 35 minutes from PS... but definitely further away than
KPSP or KUDD. From KTRM - exit the airport and turn right on "Airport Blvd" and
go to the Hwy. 86 expressway. Turn left (North) and take the expressway to
I-10. Go west on I-10 to the Ramon Rd. exit and then west again and on into
Palm Springs. They (KTRM) have a lot of new hangers - many still empty. Don't
know what kind of deal they may work for you to park in one for a few days.
Weather is chamber of commerce nice this time of year... so may not be worth
the hassle unless you really want your baby inside.
UDD is a nice little airport (and I can hit it with a rock from my house). They
do have rental cars available, but I don't know if any type of shuttle will
be running to PS. VERY doubtful you could find hanger space.
I only do touch and go's at PSP - and can't attest to any tie-down costs or services.
But you ARE right there in town that way.
dj
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