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1. 02:27 AM - Re: Microair 760 VHF Transceiver (RAS)
2. 04:56 AM - Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide (Russ & Marilyn)
3. 05:13 AM - Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide (RV6 Flyer)
4. 05:18 AM - Re: Removing white plastic covering from aluminum (Chuck Jensen)
5. 05:19 AM - Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
6. 05:32 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (JACK LOCKAMY)
7. 06:33 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Ron Lee)
8. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) ()
9. 07:16 AM - Filter airbox missing part. (Tom Lutgring)
10. 07:52 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Randy Lervold)
11. 08:02 AM - Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide (David Leonard)
12. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: RV7-List: Flush Latch Source ? (Bill Schlatterer)
13. 08:45 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
14. 09:13 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (John Jessen)
15. 10:03 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Bob 1)
16. 11:33 AM - Re: Filter airbox missing part. (Rick Gray)
17. 12:08 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Jerry Springer)
18. 12:28 PM - [ Matthew M. Jurotich ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
19. 12:54 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Terry Watson)
20. 04:44 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Frank Stringham)
21. 04:44 PM - Re: Drain holes (DAVID REEL)
22. 04:53 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Frank Stringham)
23. 06:07 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Jerry Springer)
24. 07:55 PM - Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) (RV6 Flyer)
25. 08:46 PM - Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) (JOHN STARN)
26. 10:52 PM - Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) (Jerry Springer)
27. 10:57 PM - Re: Removing white plastic covering from aluminum (Chris W)
28. 11:17 PM - ADS-B (Ed Holyoke)
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760 VHF Transceiver |
Hi,
It sounds like your problem is with the microair and not your intercom.
Microair radio's are notorious for unusual problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams Hildred" <WilliamsJrHildred@JohnDeere.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: RV-List: Microair 760 VHF Transceiver
> <WilliamsJrHildred@JohnDeere.com>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> NOT RV RELATED.
>
> Anyone out there with experience related to the Microair 760 comm radio
> connected to a Sigtronics intercom?
>
> Last week, for some reason, I lost the ability to transmit clearly on
> any channels below 122.00.
> Everything above 122.0 appears to work correctly.
>
> Any suggestions or trouble shooting tips would be of great help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Hildred Williams
> WilliamsHildred@JohnDeere.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide |
You could install a drain hole cover like tie ones found on fabric covered
float planes. The cover should produce a vacuum when the AC is in motion.
Russ Keith
RV9A
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: RV-List: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide
>
> I just drilled a 1/8" hole just outboard of the fuselage in the lowest
> part
> of
> F826 and F827, the fuselage bottom skins that are attached the inboard
> bottom wing skin. Their purpose is to drain water that collects there
> when
> the RV8A sits outside
> in the rain. I keep it outside on tie down all the time. It just occured
> to me that I may have provided a path for exhaust products to be sucked
> into
> the cockpit. Could you comment on the likelyhood of this possibility?
> The
> holes are located 23 inches forward from the trailing edge of the flap
> when
> it is fully raised.
>
> Come to think of it, why don't exhaust products get sucked into the
> cockpit
> through the aileron pushrod and flap pushrod holes? Is it the draftyness
> of
> our cockpits that saves us?
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide |
Ask anyone that has a SMOKE system how much smoke gets in the cockpit if you
pull Gs and have the air vents closed.
There is a lot of leakage IN to the cockpit of an RV-6. Close all the
vents, pull 2 or more Gs, and the cockpit will fill with smoke. In straight
and level, you also will get smoke in the cockpit IF all the vents are
closed but it takes a lot longer and there is a LOT less. With all the vents
open, there is no problem.
I know, more POLUTION. Smoke oil is nothing but Concrete form release oil.
The EPA recommendation on disposal is VAPORIZATION. That is what people
with smoke systems are going and it is the best test there is to find out
how much carbon monoxide is getting into your airplane.
The amount of smoke that gets in without any drain holes is large compaired
to what you will get in through the addition of drain holes.
Please do not ask me how I know this.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,964 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Subject: RV-List: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide
I just drilled a 1/8" hole just outboard of the fuselage in the lowest part
of
F826 and F827, the fuselage bottom skins that are attached the inboard
bottom wing skin. Their purpose is to drain water that collects there when
the RV8A sits outside
in the rain. I keep it outside on tie down all the time. It just occured
to me that I may have provided a path for exhaust products to be sucked into
the cockpit. Could you comment on the likelyhood of this possibility? The
holes are located 23 inches forward from the trailing edge of the flap when
it is fully raised.
Come to think of it, why don't exhaust products get sucked into the cockpit
through the aileron pushrod and flap pushrod holes? Is it the draftyness of
our cockpits that saves us?
Dave Reel - RV8A
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Removing white plastic covering from aluminum |
The mayo is a great idea. Even if its wrong, it's not so bad when you
have to eat your mistakes.
Chuck Jensen
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Removing white plastic covering from aluminum
Ahh Yes. Guess the mayo would also not evaporate over night like most
"petroleum products" would. It would remain and soften the glue
sloowllly. This would allow it to be removed without scrubbing it with
scotchbrite. KABONG Do Not Archive 8*)
Subject: Re: RV-List: Removing white plastic covering from
aluminum
Someone on line suggested coating the glue with
mayonnaise (kinda heavy) & covering with a cloth, let stand overnight.
The next day 90% came right off, reapplied and removed the rest the next
day. I have no idea why it worked but it did.
Mayonaise is oil mixed with eggs. The oil was the solvent, and
the eggs made it thick so it didn't just run off. Almost any petroleum
product will work though!
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide |
In a message dated 11/11/2006 7:58:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rmkeith@gwi.net writes:
You could install a drain hole cover like tie ones found on fabric covered
float planes. The cover should produce a vacuum when the AC is in motion.
Russ Keith
RV9A
===========================
Guys:
There are SCUPPER vents that can be purchased at your local chandlery (Ship's
Store) that are easy to mount. BUT! They don't work either. I spent two
years hunting down CO leaks in an RV-6. And the cure was to install automotive
curved exhaust extensions. The cost was about $10 each which includes the
hardware clamps. The results are ZERO (0) CO showing up on the monitor. I tried
everything ... you name it ... I'd bet I tried it.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Bob (and others),
I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com' as
SPAM. It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an
advertisement for the site or Dan Checkoway.
I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities and
thought I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site to
others who may not be aware of it.
In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself and
STAY in the lurker mode....
Cheers,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
>
>I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com' as
>SPAM. It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an
>advertisement for the site or Dan Checkoway.
>
>I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities and
>thought I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site to
>others who may not be aware of it.
>
>In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself and
>STAY in the lurker mode....
I see nothing wrong with pilot input on good and bad products.
Personally I am not happy that the winds/weather info provided
by Dan's website is now a fee-based service but such is life.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Jack,
I for one am glad you posted the message about Weathermeister.com. And because
you did, I also became aware of the Golden Eagle & Cirrus software for DUATS
as well as FlightAware.com. I did not know any of these existed... So please
do not become a "lurker". It is through the experienced insight that you
guys have, and are willing to share, that ignorant newbies like me can learn.
I sincerely appreciate everyone's contributions.
Bill Settle
Winston-Salem, NC
RV-8 Rudder
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>
> From: "JACK LOCKAMY" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
> Date: 2006/11/11 Sat AM 08:31:40 EST
> To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>
> Bob (and others),
>
> I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com' as SPAM.
It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an advertisement for the site
or Dan Checkoway.
>
> I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities and thought
I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site to others who
may not be aware of it.
>
> In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself and STAY
in the lurker mode....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jack Lockamy
> Camarillo, CA
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Filter airbox missing part. |
Hello,
I am looking for some help identifying a part.
In the filter airbox kit there are 5 filter retainer clips part number
VA-131-D. These clips hold the filter to the oval shape inside the
airbox. Looking at the drawing and directions I believe these parts are
fabricated from a piece of supplied angle. My paperwork shows that I
inventoried this part last year, but I cannot locate it now.
Does anyone know what type of angle Vans supplied for this?
Thankyou,
Tom,
RV-9A, getting close. Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Jack,
You should never apologize for bringing what you believe to be a great
aviation product and value to the attention of other builders/pilots...
that's the purpose of these lists -- to share information about what's
good and what's bad. There is a vocal minority out there with the
twisted notion that "if it costs money it's bad". I suspect they don't
work for free and question why they expect others to. Money and/or
profit is not a dirty word, it's all about VALUE, in other words what do
we receive for a given amount of money.
Dan - Thanks for bringing another cost-effective weather option to the
aviation community.
Jack - Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Dan didn't want to for
fear of the same misguided attitude noted above and we need to know
about it.
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: JACK LOCKAMY
To: RV List
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
Bob (and others),
I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com' as
SPAM. It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an
advertisement for the site or Dan Checkoway.
I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities
and thought I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site
to others who may not be aware of it.
In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself
and STAY in the lurker mode....
Cheers,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Drain holes & Carbon Monoxide |
On 11/10/06, DAVID REEL <dreel@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> I just drilled a 1/8" hole just outboard of the fuselage in the lowest
> part
> of
> F826 and F827, the fuselage bottom skins that are attached the inboard
> bottom wing skin. Their purpose is to drain water that collects there
> when
> the RV8A sits outside
> in the rain. I keep it outside on tie down all the time. It just occured
> to me that I may have provided a path for exhaust products to be sucked
> into
> the cockpit. Could you comment on the likelyhood of this
> possibility? The
> holes are located 23 inches forward from the trailing edge of the flap
> when
> it is fully raised.
>
> Come to think of it, why don't exhaust products get sucked into the
> cockpit
> through the aileron pushrod and flap pushrod holes? Is it the draftyness
> of
> our cockpits that saves us?
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
Dave, I get a wiff of exhaust when I deploy my flaps. It does appear to
come through the flap actuator holes. My problem is worse than others
because 1) my exhaust is farther forward and displaced to the port side.
And 2) I moved my flap actuator over to the port side of the baggage area
which required a hole in the port flap weldiment inspection cover. (there
are a couple pictures on my website if you want to see)
I fixed most of the problem by sealing up the leaks around that inspection
cover. The CO was never bad enough to change the color of the chemical
sensor, but I'm sure the electronic versions would tell a different story.
In general, there seems to be enough cabin ventilation that the effects are
not significant.
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
My websites at:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
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| Subject: | RE: RV7-List: Flush Latch Source ? |
Dave thanks, do they have a website or phone number. Google just turns up a
bunch of bed and breakfast places ;-) Thanks Bill S
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RV-List: RE: RV7-List: Flush Latch Source ?
Yes, that is what I used. B&B Sales sell them, $5.00 each. They work VERY
well.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Flush Latch Source ?
Does anyone know where to find this latch. It's very simple and clean and I
would like to use it for an oil door latch. Saw it on a Micco a couple of
weeks ago. The link below is to a Fairchild Fasteners catalog but I can't
seem to find a source. Any help appreciated.
<http://www-glast.slac.stanford.edu/MechanicalSystems/Analysis/References/Ve
ndor/Other/camloc_ram-h.pdf>
http://www-glast.slac.stanford.edu/MechanicalSystems/Analysis/References/Ven
dor/Other/camloc_ram-h.pdf
<<...>>
Thanks
Bill S
7a engine
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Well said Randy!
DO NOT ARCHIVE Tom in Ohio (6-A down for annual)
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Lervold
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
Jack,
You should never apologize for bringing what you believe to be a great
aviation product and value to the attention of other builders/pilots...
that's the purpose of these lists -- to share information about what's
good and what's bad. There is a vocal minority out there with the
twisted notion that "if it costs money it's bad". I suspect they don't
work for free and question why they expect others to. Money and/or
profit is not a dirty word, it's all about VALUE, in other words what do
we receive for a given amount of money.
Dan - Thanks for bringing another cost-effective weather option to the
aviation community.
Jack - Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Dan didn't want to for
fear of the same misguided attitude noted above and we need to know
about it.
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: JACK LOCKAMY
To: RV List
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
Bob (and others),
I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com'
as SPAM. It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an
advertisement for the site or Dan Checkoway.
I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities
and thought I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site
to others who may not be aware of it.
In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself
and STAY in the lurker mode....
Cheers,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Jack, it wasn't SPAM. It was a good reminder of a useful tool. It's good
to give an opinion of a tool here so others can come back with their opinion
of other, good tools, and others can go take a test drive and benefit from
the new knowledge. I've benefited from such SPAM discussions in the past,
and hope to in the future. Don't just lurk. Put on the flame suit and keep
posting. If there are folks who disagree with your opinion, fine. Some
might be more "civil" in their retort, but what the hey. It rains here in
Oregon, but what beauty.
John Jessen
#40328
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JACK LOCKAMY
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
Bob (and others),
I apologize if you consider my post regarding 'Weathermeister.com' as SPAM.
It never crossed my mind that it was either SPAM or an advertisement for the
site or Dan Checkoway.
I am extremely impressed with the weather info and it's capabilities and
thought I was doing the RV commmunity a favor by mentioning the site to
others who may not be aware of it.
In the future, I will keep my opinions and recommendations to myself and
STAY in the lurker mode....
Cheers,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
No doubt Dan;s weather page WAS great!!! But it's NOT FREE
anymore???!!! With the 'free' function it will no longer remember your
location or allow you to set a radius . .. it's nearly worthless!
Without the $5.00 per month fee it doesn't even do route weather. I'm
not saying it's not worth it if you fly several trips per month but it's
not much good for the occasional flyer anymore.
Golden Eagle looks like the only choice now if you don't want to pay a
monthly fee!
What am I missing???
Regards
Bob in SE Iowa
========
Yep.
The FREE version WAS great before it got crippled.
Nothing quite like 'truth in advertising' to stir the hornet's nest,
Bob. :o)
Like you... my style of flying does NOT JUSTIFY any fee based product at
this time.
I have Golden Eagle installed, but I am much more familiar using Cirrus.
Either meets my needs and then some. Soooo...
How much money is in my plane or bank account is irrelevant.
Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beerholder [beholder].
Again, CIRRUS 5 and Golden Eagle FlightPrep=AE flight planner are
still.... FREE!
http://www.duats.com/cirrus.shtml
Bob - the beerholder and defender of capitalism
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| Subject: | Re: Filter airbox missing part. |
Hey Tom, The RV10 kit comes with the VA-131D retainers punched from a
piece of aluminum stock....just separate, trim, sand the edges then
paint or powdercoat. Just grab a piece of angle from your scrap bin and
whip out a few retainers....won't take more than 5 minutes :^). If you
want to nail it down look on the plans to see the call out.....maybe
about .063 stock and 3/4 x 3/4 IIRC...then again you could easily get by
with some of that .032 cheap stuff that comes with the kit (I think the
RV10 retainers were .040ish)......I've made 5 or 6 airboxes now and I'm
sure either will work.
Sounds like your getting to put some air under the wings!
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Lutgring
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: Filter airbox missing part.
Hello,
I am looking for some help identifying a part.
In the filter airbox kit there are 5 filter retainer clips part number
VA-131-D. These clips hold the filter to the oval shape inside the
airbox. Looking at the drawing and directions I believe these parts are
fabricated from a piece of supplied angle. My paperwork shows that I
inventoried this part last year, but I cannot locate it now.
Does anyone know what type of angle Vans supplied for this?
Thankyou,
Tom,
RV-9A, getting close. Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
John Jessen wrote:
> It rains here in Oregon, but what beauty.
>
> John Jessen
> #40328
>
> do not archive
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Yes it does rain here. everyday it pours down rain, never a day goes by
that it does not rain, so please do not anyone else move to this state
where it
rains everyday. And John is wrong about the beauty it is dark, gloomy,
damp and miserable here :-) :-) :-)
do not archive
Jerry
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
This conversation reminds me of an incident here on the RV list some years
ago. A guy named Steve had a computerized system for laying out and cutting
instrument panels. I think he still does it, and I have only heard great
things about him and his work, EXCEPT in one case from one "customer".
Steve offered to use his equipment and expertise to create name tags for
anyone on the list so they could make contact with each other at flyins. He
offered to do it for FREE - no cost, not even for materials or postage. But
of course he would do it in his spare time, so it might take awhile.
You guessed it . someone decided he wasn't quick enough and started bitching
and badmouthing the guy right here on the RV list, for a FREE service.
Dan Checkoway has provided more free and helpful services than anyone else I
can think of, (with the possible exceptions of Randy Levold and Sam
Buchanon) on or off the RV list. His website is probably the best reference
anywhere in existence about building an RV; his articles in Kit Planes
magazine are excellent, and now I see he is conducting workshops with
SportAir on building RV's for those who want to get a taste of what is in
store for them. He has provided for free this great site for checking and
decoding weather information. Now he has enhanced and expanded it into a fee
based service, which costs roughly the same as a gallon of avgas a month,
and some of you guys are crying about it?
How embarrassing for the rest of us.
Terry
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob 1
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
No doubt Dan;s weather page WAS great!!! But it's NOT FREE anymore???!!!
With the 'free' function it will no longer remember your location or allow
you to set a radius . .. it's nearly worthless! Without the $5.00 per
month fee it doesn't even do route weather. I'm not saying it's not worth
it if you fly several trips per month but it's not much good for the
occasional flyer anymore.
Golden Eagle looks like the only choice now if you don't want to pay a
monthly fee!
What am I missing???
Regards
Bob in SE Iowa
=================================
Yep.
The FREE version WAS great before it got crippled.
Nothing quite like 'truth in advertising' to stir the hornet's nest, Bob.
:o)
Like you... my style of flying does NOT JUSTIFY any fee based product at
this time.
I have Golden Eagle installed, but I am much more familiar using Cirrus.
Either meets my needs and then some. Soooo...
How much money is in my plane or bank account is irrelevant.
Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beerholder [beholder].
Again, CIRRUS 5 and Golden Eagle FlightPrepR flight planner are still....
FREE!
http://www.duats.com/cirrus.shtml
Bob - the beerholder and defender of capitalism
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Give me a break. One of my seven adult children lives in Oregon and it is
BEAUTIFUL......and I have yet to be rained on in my 10 years of visiting
them. I may even move up that way like all those Calefournea (don't ya just
love Arnold) people you love.....to......xxxxxxxx
Frank @ SGU and SLC
do not archive
>From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:07:17 -0800
>
>
>John Jessen wrote:
>
>> It rains here in Oregon, but what beauty. John Jessen
>> #40328
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>Yes it does rain here. everyday it pours down rain, never a day goes by
>that it does not rain, so please do not anyone else move to this state
>where it
>rains everyday. And John is wrong about the beauty it is dark, gloomy,
>damp and miserable here :-) :-) :-)
>
>do not archive
>
>Jerry
>
>
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The site picture of air pressure around a flying wing at
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5255
is pretty puzzling. I would think a pressure greater than that atop the
wing would have to exist under the wing at positive angles of attack to
produce lift. The Bernoulli principle would explain the negative pressure
atop the wing. But the site picture shows a negative pressure beneath the
wing that appears about equal to that on top. ????
Dave
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Terry
Yes.......Dan has done more for me and my plane than just about anyone on or
off the list. Man if I had to pay for his on list and off list advice to me
I would have to added a bunch more to the cost of the plane. Sam and
Walter's web sites have also added a great deal to my plane.
So with that said .......like noses and other body parts ........everyone
has an opinion. Some I like and others I think stink.
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:53:40 -0800
>
>This conversation reminds me of an incident here on the RV list some years
>ago. A guy named Steve had a computerized system for laying out and cutting
>instrument panels. I think he still does it, and I have only heard great
>things about him and his work, EXCEPT in one case from one "customer".
>
>
>Steve offered to use his equipment and expertise to create name tags for
>anyone on the list so they could make contact with each other at flyins. He
>offered to do it for FREE - no cost, not even for materials or postage. But
>of course he would do it in his spare time, so it might take awhile.
>
>
>You guessed it . someone decided he wasn't quick enough and started
>bitching
>and badmouthing the guy right here on the RV list, for a FREE service.
>
>
>Dan Checkoway has provided more free and helpful services than anyone else
>I
>can think of, (with the possible exceptions of Randy Levold and Sam
>Buchanon) on or off the RV list. His website is probably the best reference
>anywhere in existence about building an RV; his articles in Kit Planes
>magazine are excellent, and now I see he is conducting workshops with
>SportAir on building RV's for those who want to get a taste of what is in
>store for them. He has provided for free this great site for checking and
>decoding weather information. Now he has enhanced and expanded it into a
>fee
>based service, which costs roughly the same as a gallon of avgas a month,
>and some of you guys are crying about it?
>
>
>How embarrassing for the rest of us.
>
>
>Terry
>
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob 1
>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:02 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>
>
>No doubt Dan;s weather page WAS great!!! But it's NOT FREE anymore???!!!
>With the 'free' function it will no longer remember your location or allow
>you to set a radius . .. it's nearly worthless! Without the $5.00 per
>month fee it doesn't even do route weather. I'm not saying it's not worth
>it if you fly several trips per month but it's not much good for the
>occasional flyer anymore.
>
>Golden Eagle looks like the only choice now if you don't want to pay a
>monthly fee!
>
>What am I missing???
>
>
>Regards
>Bob in SE Iowa
>
>=================================
>
>
>Yep.
>
>The FREE version WAS great before it got crippled.
>
>Nothing quite like 'truth in advertising' to stir the hornet's nest, Bob.
>:o)
>
>
>Like you... my style of flying does NOT JUSTIFY any fee based product at
>this time.
>
>I have Golden Eagle installed, but I am much more familiar using Cirrus.
>
>Either meets my needs and then some. Soooo...
>
>How much money is in my plane or bank account is irrelevant.
>
>Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beerholder [beholder].
>
>
>Again, CIRRUS 5 and Golden Eagle FlightPrepR flight planner are still....
>FREE!
>
>
>http://www.duats.com/cirrus.shtml
>
>
>Bob - the beerholder and defender of capitalism
>
>
>Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Frank you are not helping to keep the state I have lived in all of my
life from becoming over populated like the state you want to escape
from. So NO, you don't get a break :-):-) oops to late, it is getting
next to impossible to even drive to Portland from where I live
20 miles the west.
do not archive
Frank Stringham wrote:
>
> Give me a break. One of my seven adult children lives in Oregon and it
> is BEAUTIFUL......and I have yet to be rained on in my 10 years of
> visiting them. I may even move up that way like all those Calefournea
> (don't ya just love Arnold) people you love.....to......xxxxxxxx
>
> Frank @ SGU and SLC
>
> do not archive
>
>
>> From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:07:17 -0800
>>
>>
>> John Jessen wrote:
>>
>>> It rains here in Oregon, but what beauty. John Jessen
>>> #40328
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>> Yes it does rain here. everyday it pours down rain, never a day goes
>> by that it does not rain, so please do not anyone else move to this
>> state where it
>> rains everyday. And John is wrong about the beauty it is dark,
>> gloomy, damp and miserable here :-) :-) :-)
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) |
That is not RAIN. That is LIQUID Sunshine. Wish we got more of that LIQUID
sunshine here is SoCAL but all we get is that DRY sunshine almost every day.
High and Lo temperatures do not vary very much either down here.
Too bad all the Fruits, Flakes, and Nuts here in the Peoples Republic of
California keep heading NORTH of the border. When I lived back east, the
southerner's did not like it that all the Da_ _ Yankee's keep moving south.
All my life, I have lived on the wrong side of some state line.
If we can convince everyone how nice it is here in SoCAL, my real estate
will go up in value. If we can convince people how BAD it is in Oregon,
property value will go down in Oregon. As soon as that happens, I can sell
and move to Oregon.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,965 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
John Jessen wrote:
> It rains here in Oregon, but what beauty. John Jessen
> #40328
> do not archive
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Yes it does rain here. everyday it pours down rain, never a day goes by that
it does not rain, so please do not anyone else move to this state where it
rains everyday. And John is wrong about the beauty it is dark, gloomy, damp
and miserable here :-) :-) :-)
do not archive
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) |
My son & his family moved up to Everett Washington. Great city, everything
is green. During our vacation last year we went up for two weeks, they came
within one day of a new record while we were up there. Some outrageous
number like 38 (or was it 48) days in a row it rained. But everything was
green, the water in the pond, the edges of the blacktop and/or concrete
surfaces, around the base of every building & fence, all covered with moss
or mold or whatever they call that stuff. BUT I didn't to use my humidifier
at all. 8*) KABONG (GBA & GWB) Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM)
> That is not RAIN. That is LIQUID Sunshine. Wish we got more of that
> LIQUID sunshine here is SoCAL but all we get is that DRY sunshine almost
> every day. High and Lo temperatures do not vary very much either down
> here.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oregon Rain was Weathermeister (SPAM) |
I will make an exception for you Gary :-)
do not archive
RV6 Flyer wrote:
>
> That is not RAIN. That is LIQUID Sunshine. Wish we got more of that
> LIQUID sunshine here is SoCAL but all we get is that DRY sunshine almost
> every day. High and Lo temperatures do not vary very much either down
> here.
>
> Too bad all the Fruits, Flakes, and Nuts here in the Peoples Republic of
> California keep heading NORTH of the border. When I lived back east, the
> southerner's did not like it that all the Da_ _ Yankee's keep moving
> south. All my life, I have lived on the wrong side of some state line.
>
> If we can convince everyone how nice it is here in SoCAL, my real estate
> will go up in value. If we can convince people how BAD it is in Oregon,
> property value will go down in Oregon. As soon as that happens, I can
> sell and move to Oregon.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 1,965 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:07:17 -0800
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>
>> It rains here in Oregon, but what beauty. John Jessen
>> #40328
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
> Yes it does rain here. everyday it pours down rain, never a day goes by
> that it does not rain, so please do not anyone else move to this state
> where it
> rains everyday. And John is wrong about the beauty it is dark, gloomy,
> damp and miserable here :-) :-) :-)
>
> do not archive
>
> Jerry
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Removing white plastic covering from aluminum |
Chuck Jensen wrote:
> The mayo is a great idea. Even if its wrong, it's not so bad when you
> have to eat your mistakes.
With that comment, I think we need to learn a little bit more about "The
History of Mayonnaise".
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's Mayonnaise was
manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars
of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was
to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New
York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise
ever delivered to Mexico.
But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship
hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost.
The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were
eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their
anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning,
which they still observe to this day.
The National Day of Mourning is known, of course, as
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Sinko de Mayo.
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Chris W
KE5GIX
"Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM,
learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm"
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I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
traffic displayed for free. At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
optional.
Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so the
receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not to
me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
out.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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